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NFT: Mets bids in - Cohen, Arod and Blitzer among them

pjcas18 : 7/9/2020 9:54 pm
Steve Cohen, billionaire hedge fund manager and minority owner of the Mets, is among a group of at least five bids to purchase the Mets, according to a new report.

Per Scott Soshnick of Sportico, Cohen, Devils and 76ers owner Josh Harris (along with business partner David Blitzer), and former big-leaguer Alex Rodriguez all submitted "first-round bids" to purchase the team, meeting the reported deadline of July 9 set by Allen & Company, the investment bank overseeing the sale.
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There is bad blood between Wilpon and Cohen  
NewBlue : 7/9/2020 10:01 pm : link
But at the end of the day money plays
related note  
NewBlue : 7/9/2020 10:02 pm : link
Do they intend to sell a limited number of seats to games thus far?
From my understanding  
ripdumaine : 7/9/2020 10:28 pm : link
Cohen and the Wilpons squashed their "beef". I'm hoping he wins
a wall street reporter from the post says arod group bid 1.7b for 80%  
Eric on Li : 7/9/2020 10:30 pm : link
which would be a $2.125b valuation. It's also been "confirmed" Cohen put in a bid. That's a stronger than expected offer from A-Rod.
and now this from the guy who seems to have made this his beat  
Eric on Li : 7/9/2020 10:34 pm : link
Charles Gasparino
@CGasparino
BREAKING: After weeks of negotiations, hedge fund billionaire Steve Cohen has told Wilpons he would pay $2 billion for @Mets & would pay $2 billion for @SNYtv. Other bids for the team so far are lower meaning he is (as reported by @FoxBusiness) the lead bid. Timing unclear
Don’t celebrate quite yet  
Shecky : 7/10/2020 12:03 am : link
There’s a ‘detail’ the Wilpons won’t like and they can VERY easily fuck it up, like only a Wilpon could...
Shecky any insight on detail?  
bhill410 : 7/10/2020 3:33 am : link
There is only so many times I can refresh this Laura Goldman’s page before I lose my mind.
Yeah Shecky  
pjcas18 : 7/10/2020 8:03 am : link
what is the detail? any hint?

Charles Gasparino
@CGasparino
· 9h
BREAKING: After weeks of negotiations, hedge fund billionaire Steve Cohen has told Wilpons he would pay $2 billion for @Mets & would pay $2 billion for @SNYtv. Other bids for the team so far are lower meaning he is (as reported by @FoxBusiness) the lead bid. Timing unclear
I think he's just  
JB_in_DC : 7/10/2020 8:07 am : link
meaning a hypothetical murphy's law detail.
My guess is its  
pjcas18 : 7/10/2020 8:12 am : link
something like Brooklyn Cyclones being included (if they already weren't being included)


Or development rights in the Willet's point area being included.

Sounds like he doesn't want to give up  
pjcas18 : 7/10/2020 8:26 am : link
control and maybe with Arod he won't have to. Apples to apples who knows maybe it's close.

Michael Mayer
@mikemayerMMO
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2m
From the New York Post, "Mets COO Jeff Wilpon would prefer to sell the team to J-Rod if their offer is close to the best bid at the end of the auction, several sources said."

I thought the control thing was a done deal...  
Italianju : 7/10/2020 8:29 am : link
nobody is paying all that money to let these idiots continue to run the team.

Now that said i could see Arod being more willing to keep the wilpons around in some regard. Where as i think Cohen would show them the door as fast as humanly possible.

Just sell both the team and SNY to Cohen. Take your 4 Billion dollars and just leave mets fans alone. Go be rich and invest in other shit.
Regardless of control...  
moze1021 : 7/10/2020 8:58 am : link
The nightmare situation for the Wilpons IS the dream scenario for Mets fans..

Picture the scenario:

Cohen buys Mets, Mets fans rejoice at finally having an owner with deep pockets, not like with the Wilpons.
Cohen starts spending, Mets fans rejoice and articles are written saying Mets finally spending like big market team they are, not like with the Wilpons.
Mets win a World Series. Cohen is immortalized as savior of Mets, saving them from the Wilpons.

That is a nightmare for them at every step of the road.

No doubt, they would prefer to sell to someone who would be as cash strapped as them.

If nothing other than out of sheer pettiness.
It would likely have to be very very close  
bhill410 : 7/10/2020 9:13 am : link
since the Katz's likely just want as much money as possible from the closing.
.  
pjcas18 : 7/10/2020 9:39 am : link
a miracle Met weighs in....(from metsmerized)

Art Shamsky
@ArtShamsky
· 4m
Steve Cohen is just what the #Mets need — a huge fan of the team to begin with and has the funds to put a winning team together. A perfect combo #LGM
The A rod group  
Shecky : 7/10/2020 9:57 am : link
Told you weeks ago he found Fred’s hit button, and that was selling the stars the WP project. That’s always been a Fred’s championship trophy
Shecky  
Drewcon40 : 7/10/2020 10:04 am : link
Please forgive my ignorance - what is the WP project? Willets Point?
A few things that are out there and some reading between lines  
Eric on Li : 7/10/2020 10:08 am : link
one of the reports on twitter is that Cohen's offers aren't $2bn, they 80% of that at an enterprise value of $2bn. This doesn't make sense because that would make the A-Rod group's offer on the Mets higher, so I just find that hard to believe (more on why below).

there's another report out there that the MLB owners won't approve any sale that values the Mets below $2bn. This seems highly believable and obvious to me and if I were an MLB owner I'd probably do the same. And again, supposedly the A-Rod group offer values them at $2.125bn.

Now for the reading between the lines - the comment that Jeff would prefer to sell to A-Rod. Let's parse that a little bit. No matter how much they've reacquainted themselves there is no way Cohen is getting the team unless he is top bid. Full stop. That much is obvious. The Wilpons would prefer to sell to someone else. So this leak that Jeff would prefer to sell to A-Rod is both fitting with their MO for flashy news that wins the backpages and the likely reality that there's a better relationship there than with Cohen. And it serves to make sure Cohen knows he's only winning this battle one way - $$$$ (which I'm sure he's fully aware of in the first place).

All of which again calls into question the logic/accuracy of the report of Cohen potentially offering a lower valuation of the team, unless the offer on SNY is the piece that's too attractive to pass up. Either way at this point I think all signs still point to Cohen being the mostly likely buyer because he's interested and has the most money. I'm surprised he put in any formal round 1 bid and that would signal to me that he wants to get something done and is not looking to play games.
Shecky  
Drewcon40 : 7/10/2020 10:09 am : link
I did a quick Google search and I believe that is what you were referring to.

Rodriguez and Lopez envision their ownership of the team as re-imagining the Mets brand and Citi Field as an entertainment venue. Sources now say that the pair has been researching how to redevelop the ballpark and the area around it to make Willets Point a place where families could spend a day before, during and after a ballgame.

In terms of Citi Field itself, the early plans include adding some seats closer to the field. J-Rod would reportedly also want to create a field-level box area for celebrity Mets fans like Jerry Seinfeld, Chris Rock and Matthew Broderick in the mold of the Knicks’ “Celebrity Row.”

“With their connections, Willets could become a Wrigleyville in Queens,” one person with knowledge of J-Rod’s thinking said.

Ballpark Digest - ( New Window )
RE: The A rod group  
Eric on Li : 7/10/2020 10:09 am : link
In comment 14931164 Shecky said:
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Told you weeks ago he found Fred’s hit button, and that was selling the stars the WP project. That’s always been a Fred’s championship trophy


A-Rod is literally the perfect type of personality to sell Fred/Jeff. He is the BVW of potential buyers.
Jeff  
DanMetroMan : 7/10/2020 10:16 am : link
reportedly favors not selling to Cohen.
It would be so Wilpon like  
figgy2989 : 7/10/2020 10:22 am : link
to go with a lower bid just because they want little Jeff to stay on with the team in some capacity.




Where is Saul Katz in all this?  
figgy2989 : 7/10/2020 10:23 am : link
Everyone knows he wants to cash out at the highest possible amount.
.  
DanMetroMan : 7/10/2020 10:45 am : link
“Wow! Is that Kevin James? Glenn Close enjoying some Pat LeFrieda delicacies” -Gary
Lots of BS Here  
Samiam : 7/10/2020 10:53 am : link
If anybody thinks the Wilpons will not sell to the highest bidder, they have another think coming. With the Wilpons, it has always been about the money, nothing else matters. And, as mentioned above, Saul Katz has a say in this and he is also looking to maximize the sale price. Like Eric said above, if I’m reading him right, if Cohen comes through with the highest bid, and I expect he will, he’ll get the team. And, it’s probably a lot easier for someone like Cohen to raise his bid than it is for the A-Rod group which has many moving parts. I’m wondering if Wilpon, who knows the original $2.6 billion Cohen offer was screwed up somehow by his greed, is trying to push Cohen into raising the current bid by talking up the A-Rod group. But, if Cohen is anything like the Billions guy, he’s way smarter than the Wilpons and needs the transaction less than the Wilpons. Again, the Wilpons will not sell for less than top dollar because of some BS.
You know they won't  
pjcas18 : 7/10/2020 10:54 am : link
but MLB should step in and force the sale to Cohen if the alternative is to keep the Wilpons involved.

I think there is a precedent for MLB getting involved.
RE: Lots of BS Here  
DanMetroMan : 7/10/2020 11:02 am : link
In comment 14931207 Samiam said:
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If anybody thinks the Wilpons will not sell to the highest bidder, they have another think coming. With the Wilpons, it has always been about the money, nothing else matters. And, as mentioned above, Saul Katz has a say in this and he is also looking to maximize the sale price. Like Eric said above, if I’m reading him right, if Cohen comes through with the highest bid, and I expect he will, he’ll get the team. And, it’s probably a lot easier for someone like Cohen to raise his bid than it is for the A-Rod group which has many moving parts. I’m wondering if Wilpon, who knows the original $2.6 billion Cohen offer was screwed up somehow by his greed, is trying to push Cohen into raising the current bid by talking up the A-Rod group. But, if Cohen is anything like the Billions guy, he’s way smarter than the Wilpons and needs the transaction less than the Wilpons. Again, the Wilpons will not sell for less than top dollar because of some BS.



Michael Mayer
@mikemayerMMO
·
2h
From the New York Post, "Mets COO Jeff Wilpon would prefer to sell the team to J-Rod if their offer is close to the best bid at the end of the auction, several sources said."
RE: Jeff  
TyreeHelmet : 7/10/2020 11:06 am : link
In comment 14931177 DanMetroMan said:
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reportedly favors not selling to Cohen.


Just when I couldn’t dislike this guy any more. Just please sell to Cohen and go away.
Samiam  
Shecky : 7/10/2020 11:07 am : link
You are 100% right, yet not looking at it the right way lol
So the Gasparino tweet from the other day was all smoke?  
figgy2989 : 7/10/2020 11:12 am : link
Didn't he say the Wilpons and Cohen are now buddy/buddy?

RE: So the Gasparino tweet from the other day was all smoke?  
DanMetroMan : 7/10/2020 11:14 am : link
In comment 14931225 figgy2989 said:
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Didn't he say the Wilpons and Cohen are now buddy/buddy?


He later walked that back saying he'd walk away from talks if he didn't like what the Wilpons were saying.
RE: Samiam  
Eric on Li : 7/10/2020 11:18 am : link
In comment 14931218 Shecky said:
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You are 100% right, yet not looking at it the right way lol


Are you saying that Fred sees financial RE upside beyond this transaction, which could tempt him into taking a lesser $ offer today but on the belief there would be a bigger gain in the future? Buying that monorail is very on brand for the Wilpons actually - they are always smarter than doing the obvious.

Also 1 point of clarification (not for you just in general) but the $2.6b number people throw out was the valuation in the original deal Cohen offered, not the amount he was offering which was 80% of that. So his previous agreement was reported to be just under 2.1bn. That's why it would seem to make more sense now that his current offer of 2bn is down from that but not dramatically so. If his current offer is $500m lower overall and $100m lower than the A-Rod group he isn't getting the team.
Brach  
DanMetroMan : 7/10/2020 11:19 am : link
isn't in camp.... gotta believe COVID or opting out at this point right?
Cano  
DanMetroMan : 7/10/2020 11:20 am : link
absent from camp, Brodie won't touch on why
RE: Don’t celebrate quite yet  
sb from NYT Forum : 7/10/2020 11:28 am : link
In comment 14931068 Shecky said:
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There’s a ‘detail’ the Wilpons won’t like and they can VERY easily fuck it up, like only a Wilpon could...


Nice that it got "leaked" (I wonder from who...) so that Fred Wilpon's other kids not named Jeff, and Saul Katz's family will be drooling. Massive pressure on Fred not to fuck this up.
RE: Brach  
Shecky : 7/10/2020 11:30 am : link
In comment 14931230 DanMetroMan said:
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isn't in camp.... gotta believe COVID or opting out at this point right?

He’s a family guy
Cano out sounds  
pjcas18 : 7/10/2020 11:35 am : link
ominous:

Quote:
Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
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3m
Robinson Canó was not at Citi Field the past two days, Brodie Van Wagenen confirmed, but he won't comment further on why.

"There's a variety of reasons why players are here or not here on a given day, and we're going to protect those players' rights," Van Wagenen said.
I  
DanMetroMan : 7/10/2020 11:41 am : link
liked Brach as sleeper to have a solid season so that's quietly a loss if he's not playing.
I liked Brach too - not as worried about no Cano, though he may have  
Eric on Li : 7/10/2020 11:48 am : link
been a good DH. But truthfully the success of this franchise right now is McNeil/Alonso/Conforto hitting 2-3-4. And perhaps Nimmo/Rosario/JDD work themselves into that conversation. Maybe even Dom Smith.

I'd love to see Gimenez win the 2B job, or even just get his feet wet splitting time with Lowrie and his bionic leg.

Cano and/or Cespedes were wild cards who could have had a big impact in a shortened season, but their contributions to MLB are mostly in the past not the future, and possibly not even present.
if youve run an organization...  
Italianju : 7/10/2020 11:49 am : link
into the ground to the point where you have to sell it then you shouldnt get to hang around or have any involvement in said organization. Just go the fuck away. Part of me feels like the Wilpons will just not sell to Cohen to jab the fans on their way out for being treated so harshly (boo freaking hoo)
.  
DanMetroMan : 7/10/2020 11:53 am : link
Charles Gasparino
@CGasparino
·
2h
Some additional info on
@Mets
bidding derby (thread) 1-Steve Cohen's interest in the team is well defined, but there is no auction just yet on
@SNYtv
. When there is, his eyeball $2 billion valuation should drop dramatically. Network makes money, but has tons of debt, which will
Charles Gasparino
@CGasparino
·
2h
cut its price significantly. 2-Lots of reporting about 7 bidders, but no one can figure out who they are outside of Cohen/
@AROD
-
@JLo
-Viola-Repoli/Harris Blitzer Sports. 3-Interesting trash talking in the bidding group w people repping Steve Cohen telling other bidders how much
Charles Gasparino
@CGasparino
·
2h
money the Mets are losing, in an effort, to push down competing bids, I am told. Leaks from Mets side that Jeff Wilpon prefers to sell to
@AROD
to push bids higher. More as I get it.
unrelated  
pjcas18 : 7/10/2020 11:56 am : link
but relevant.

I'm not expert but this seems good.

Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
·
3m
MLB updated numbers: 83 positive tests out of 11K tests done (71 players, 12 staff). 0.7 percent positive.
.  
DanMetroMan : 7/10/2020 11:59 am : link
Sticking with my gut, Cohen will not own the Mets. Will it be J-Rod? Who knows? But not Cohen (100% not claiming inside info)
Hmmmm  
Shecky : 7/10/2020 12:00 pm : link
Jeffy butthurt from round one with Cohen and thinks he can take on a heavy weight? Lol, this should be entertaining.
Jeff Wilpon  
figgy2989 : 7/10/2020 12:04 pm : link
The gifts that keeps on giving.
I think the positive tests for MLB..  
Italianju : 7/10/2020 12:06 pm : link
is good, but since they arent going to put in a bubble there is really no saying how the numbers go from here. In theory it could get worse as teams are together, start to travel, etc... Its not like the bubble sports where in theory the number at the beginning is the worst it will get.
Posey  
DanMetroMan : 7/10/2020 12:07 pm : link
won't play in 2020
RE: Posey  
figgy2989 : 7/10/2020 12:09 pm : link
In comment 14931279 DanMetroMan said:
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won't play in 2020


Makes sense. I believe he and his wife are adopting a baby.
The testing isn't disastrous but its behind leagues in other countries  
Eric on Li : 7/10/2020 12:25 pm : link
Since May just 19 in UK Premier League positive and last week 1,973 tests, 0 positive.

Important to keep in mind as we all collectively say "other countries are playing we should too", the answer is we can so long as our protocols work as well as their's do.
Statement on results of COVID-19 tests 6 Jul 2020 - ( New Window )
correct me if im wrong..  
Italianju : 7/10/2020 12:26 pm : link
but isnt the premier league in a bubble?
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