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NGT: Quirky, esoteric and unique historical oddity.

truebluelarry : 7/10/2020 4:46 pm
(This might actually be a semi-Giants thread, since they appear as a supporting character).

Many fans may not be aware this, or possibly know about it but have never seen an actual photo, but during the 1929 season the Orange Athletic Club (sometimes known as the Tornadoes) eschewed the traditional numbering system on their jerseys and instead assigned each player a letter of the alphabet .

I've been able to gather up a few photos from newspapers over the years but not until recently have I seen their lineup presented in a program (displayed courtesy of my friend and fellow history enthusast Mike Moran).

This practice only lasted one season. In 1930 the Orange football team moved to Newark, officially named themselves the Tornadoes and conformed to the conventional method of using numbers on their players jerseys.




Lineups from the Giants-Orange program 11/10/19


Orange at the Giants 11/10/29
That's not the #0 on the Orange player's jersey, it's the letter "O"


Orange at the Boston Bulldogs 10/20/29
The player in the top photo on the far right has the letter "X" on his jersey


Orange vs Chicago Cardinals 12/8/29
The player in the top photo on the far left has the letter "Z" on his jersey (I wish I had a higher resolution of this photo).


Orange at Frankford Yellow Jackets 12/14/29
In the top photo the third player from the right (partially obscured) has the letter "R" on his jersey; in the bottom photo the Orange player shows off his letter "H"

Seems so weird.  
81_Great_Dane : 7/10/2020 5:58 pm : link
And then you remember that somehow, the NFL fell into using Roman numerals for its championship game...
Amazing  
Des51 : 7/10/2020 6:57 pm : link
That the oline players were weighing 100 lbs less than today's players. Imagine a center at 190 lbs in today's game.
RE: Amazing  
truebluelarry : 7/10/2020 7:05 pm : link
In comment 14931502 Des51 said:
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That the oline players were weighing 100 lbs less than today's players. Imagine a center at 190 lbs in today's game.


The single-platoon era players were a completely different breed. They were conditioned for endurance and the skillset requirements demanded versatility.
Imagine today's 300 lb lineman trying to go for 60 minutes or a QB being told he has to play defense.
It would never happen but a couple of preseason games with 2-way  
Ivan15 : 7/10/2020 8:59 pm : link
Players would be real interesting. Think about what other position some of the star Giant players would have played.

Manning, LB? LT at Tight end? Harry Carson at OG.
Most of the receivers and RBs would probably be D-backs and Tight ends would go to LB.
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/11/2020 7:57 am : link
Steve Owen gained 5 pounds from the top of the program to the bottom!
Player X sounds cool  
Sneakers O'toole : 7/11/2020 6:00 pm : link
Like a 90s rapper.
Jim Thorpe  
Spike13 : 7/11/2020 9:43 pm : link
Lettered.
1:08 in - ( New Window )
He’s letter F  
Pete in MD : 7/11/2020 9:47 pm : link
in your program but #1 in your hearts.
Georgetown was a powerhouse program!  
Rico : 7/11/2020 10:24 pm : link
Produced 5 of the players!
x!  
x meadowlander : 7/13/2020 11:13 am : link
Funny to see the weights of the players.  
Beezer : 7/13/2020 11:18 am : link
Any decent high school team today is bigger, overall.
RE: It would never happen but a couple of preseason games with 2-way  
TheMick7 : 7/14/2020 9:49 am : link
In comment 14931584 Ivan15 said:
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Players would be real interesting. Think about what other position some of the star Giant players would have played.

Manning, LB? LT at Tight end? Harry Carson at OG.
Most of the receivers and RBs would probably be D-backs and Tight ends would go to LB.


Didn't LT play some Offense when he crossed the picket line & came back to play?
RE: It would never happen but a couple of preseason games with 2-way  
TheMick7 : 7/14/2020 9:50 am : link
In comment 14931584 Ivan15 said:
Quote:
Players would be real interesting. Think about what other position some of the star Giant players would have played.

Manning, LB? LT at Tight end? Harry Carson at OG.
Most of the receivers and RBs would probably be D-backs and Tight ends would go to LB.


Didn't LT play some Offense when he crossed the picket line & came back to play?
He probably would have been an All Pro TE  
Sneakers O'toole : 7/14/2020 9:54 am : link
If he played it full time!
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