Investigators have Instagram messages and video evidence of a payoff cover-up in the Baker and Dunbar case.
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If this is true, he's not only an ex-Giant soon enough, but prison bound.
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-deandre-baker-quinton-dunbar-icloud-warrant-coverup-20200710-luc6jyesjjes5e3l56g4bpbnqm-story.html - (
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I really hope the rubber meets the road soon. Outside of Barkley's first year, all we have seen from Dave Gettleman's draft picks is potential. The drafting needs to start resulting in wins soon. Unfortunately, there are circumstances beyond normal football this year.
I really hope the rubber meets the road soon. Outside of Barkley's first year, all we have seen from Dave Gettleman's draft picks is potential. The drafting needs to start resulting in wins soon. Unfortunately, there are circumstances beyond normal football this year.
You are being ingenious. Outside of Barkley? DJ looked great for a rookie QB. Lawrence was awesome as a rookie. Darius Slayton proved he has a bright future. Connelly was a beast when healthy. Hernandez had a solid rookie year but took a step back as a sophomore. There has been a hell of a lot more tham potential.
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“Let’s wait for the facts” crowd dare to utter a negative word about Baker now ?
This phenomenon is so odd. I’ve got no problem getting rid of him if all this is true. But the victory lap says a lot more about you guys than it does about me. If he did it he’s a piece of shit, what more would you like?
So, congrats that Baker robbing someone happened?
I’m a Georgia fan and I was excited that they drafted him. But if this was a cowboys/eagles/skins player the lynch mob would have been out in full force the second the news of the robbery broke. But there is a contingent of people on this site (for the record I don’t lump you in said contingent) that always want to give Mara/the Giants/Giants players the benefit of the doubt.
Let’s just see how it plays out. IF this is legit then yes he’s probably “done” but again, let’s see.
Something tells me you saw Pat Leonard and didn't read the article.
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Bradford Cohen
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This is utterly false and defamatory to Andre Baker. We do not have any affidavits from the alleged victims of this offense, nor did these "victims" change the story as to dre baker. We accused the "victims" of extortion and reported to authorities from day 1.
I am so F'ing confused.
SFG so now you are “confused?” I thought Baker was done and “good riddance” - that’s what you said earlier in the thread.
This is why people just need to relax and let this play out. Again call me crazy but I wouldn’t put my opinion of Baker on the line based on a horribly written and click bait article written by Pat Leonard - who is literally the equivalent of a tabloid writer.
Now, Baker could be really, really, really, really stupid. But if he’s only just a little stupid, he probably doesn’t send a DM to someone saying hey man where can I get you this shitload of cash I’m about to pay you off for, when you’ve been charged with a felony. Again....could be true. But we have a right to just wait until this comes to a conclusion. Yes - we are going to wait for the “facts” to come out which is literally what you’re supposed to do regarding “investigations” and “the law.” Jesus Christ it shouldn’t be this hard.
The article is based on a WARRANT from the police department. He's not getting this from sources, he directly obtained the search warrant.
The DM's are from Johnson, not Baker.
And yes, Pat Leonard is an absolute hack. He couldn’t care less about the facts of the case, his job is to get clicks.
And yes, Pat Leonard is an absolute hack. He couldn’t care less about the facts of the case, his job is to get clicks.
The article is based on a fucking search warrant. Not loosely based claims from sources.
If you read the entire article you would know this. Just admit you read Pat Leonard and stopped there. The Daily News is awful, but they legally obtained the search warrant. Not even Leonard is dumb enough to make up things in an article based on a search warrant
Ok. How is what the search warrant actually says (written by the cop) a "claim". Is the cop going to put that in the warrant without having the proof?
Calling this a tabloid piece is asinine. It may be all over the place, but it's entirely based on the search warrant that was legally obtained. So now apparently police search warrants are tabloid pieces according to you.
Leonard didn't have "sources" here. He had the fucking search warrant from the police and the entire article is baed on that, nothing else.
It appears they want further access to data in the accused icloud storage and perhaps other sources to strengthen their case.
If the author of the article was changed to adam schefter and the exact same article was written you wouldn't say something so dumb.
This is not an opinion article. It's entirely based on a search warrant that the daily news obtained.
So basically you believe that police department is nothing but a tabloid machine in their search warrants.
Agreed. I am an attorney. I do not now nor have I ever practiced criminal law, but that is my interpretation.
The whole “wait for the facts” segment always seemed to be ignoring the facts from the start.
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“Let’s wait for the facts” crowd dare to utter a negative word about Baker now ?
This phenomenon is so odd. I’ve got no problem getting rid of him if all this is true. But the victory lap says a lot more about you guys than it does about me. If he did it he’s a piece of shit, what more would you like?
So, congrats that Baker robbing someone happened?
I’m a Georgia fan and I was excited that they drafted him. But if this was a cowboys/eagles/skins player the lynch mob would have been out in full force the second the news of the robbery broke. But there is a contingent of people on this site (for the record I don’t lump you in said contingent) that always want to give Mara/the Giants/Giants players the benefit of the doubt.
So what, that’s what fans do. But the result would be the same - if the player was innocent than no harm no foul in calling him a POS, if he’s guilty then we can all rejoice and laugh at them.
Some people really want Baker to be guilty to justify their outrageous behavior when it was initially reported. That’s far worse than giving the organization the benefit of the doubt (usually my stance). This isn’t court but isn’t it reasonable to want to know what happened before making final judgements on the whole ordeal?
Now to the football side of this Next Man Up Mr. Baker appears to headed to the big house with a number on his back. What are the cap impact when he given his walking papers how much will the Giants still contractually be responsible for.
Sorry but you have shit for brains and know nothing and are certainly not a criminal defense attorney.
"Warrants" can be and are (sometimes at least) written by DA's or ADAs and can be full of shit all in an of themselves, based on half truths or partial truths or misleading pieced together facts that are damn close to outright lies.
Warrants serve several possible functions: among those is the acquisition of evidence and/or the arrest of alleged criminal parties - but for sure a "Warrant" is NOT PROOF OF ANYTHING.
Does it look very bad for Baker? Sure. But if you think "Warrants" issued by ANYONE in the Law Enforcement or Criminal Justice System are bound to be akin to Biblical Truths....
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
This shit I know for fucking sure, from experience.
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“Let’s wait for the facts” crowd dare to utter a negative word about Baker now ?
Are you that fucking dense??
Are you really saying people shouldn't wait for facts? No wonder there is such a shitstorm going on with social media - takes like this.
JFC!
😂😂
Really?
Haha, was thinking the same thing.
It’s the MO of some of the regulars that only show up on threads like this, they hate certain picks so when something bad happens to said player, or it doesn’t work out for X reason, we get these lovely posts that defy logic and reason.
Maybe Baker did it, and if so I hope he’s found guilty of it and we cut him. But until then I’m going to not smash my desk demanding justice, screaming at posters on the internet for not hating Baker along side of me.
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but this was a good job by him obtaining this.
Really?
Yeah. Everybody can jump to conclusions, myself included, on what it actually means and what transpired but it was a good job obtaining it even if the article wasn't written well. Is this not news? Is this not a story?
Bradford Cohen's statement says nothing about a "smoke out" or "set up". Cohen is very careful with his words and this is his case, not Patrick Patel's.
Advising a client to engage in facially criminal conduct without the unambiguous participation of law enforcement in the "sting" would be a reckless act; no chance Cohen would do that.
Also, if things went down the way Patel claims and the case went to trial, who would have to get on the witness stand and testify to the "smoke out"? The attorneys, themselves?
Testifying means being under oath, under penalty of perjury. As HomerJ45 points out in other thread, attorneys don't put themselves in that position, certainly not an attorney as sensible as Cohen.
Cohen says he reported extortion against Baker and that I believe. But the question is: when, exactly, did Cohen find out that Baker had been approached, and what did Baker say/message/do before Cohen could get control of the situation?
Anakin is a trusted and reliable poster. You shouldn't out him like that.
Lol, j/k
People who did not condemn Baker when this was first reported are ruining BBI, the internet and the Giants.
Warrants are filled with the lies of police and prosecutors and people who don’t know this are to be cursed!
Apparently there aren’t enough questions about the discovery of Instagram or SMS on the Florida bar exam.
Dumb people are attracted to each other.
Madden ruins lives.
Baker finna leave yooooooo
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but this scary for the organization. We have heard nothing but culture and drafting football players. This guy was the exact opposite of that. All indications were, he could care less about bettering himself as a football player and now this. This guy has made Eli Apple look like a homerun. At least Apple contributed in his first year. The only thing good you could say for this guy is Sam Beal was healthy enough to get on the field and give teams a better target to go after.
I really hope the rubber meets the road soon. Outside of Barkley's first year, all we have seen from Dave Gettleman's draft picks is potential. The drafting needs to start resulting in wins soon. Unfortunately, there are circumstances beyond normal football this year.
You are being ingenious. Outside of Barkley? DJ looked great for a rookie QB. Lawrence was awesome as a rookie. Darius Slayton proved he has a bright future. Connelly was a beast when healthy. Hernandez had a solid rookie year but took a step back as a sophomore. There has been a hell of a lot more tham potential.
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but this was a good job by him obtaining this.
Really?
Yeah. Everybody can jump to conclusions, myself included, on what it actually means and what transpired but it was a good job obtaining it even if the article wasn't written well. Is this not news? Is this not a story?
A good reporter tells the whole story and does not put out a half story to be the first to get it out. I will wait for all the facts to come out, rather than jump to conclusions, before I congratulate Pat Leonard on doing a "good job".
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In comment 14931648 robbieballs2003 said:
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but this was a good job by him obtaining this.
Really?
Yeah. Everybody can jump to conclusions, myself included, on what it actually means and what transpired but it was a good job obtaining it even if the article wasn't written well. Is this not news? Is this not a story?
A good reporter tells the whole story and does not put out a half story to be the first to get it out. I will wait for all the facts to come out, rather than jump to conclusions, before I congratulate Pat Leonard on doing a "good job".
Come on. The whole story? This is an ongoing investigation. Stop.
-Elvis Patterson
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That article is such an indecipherable mishmash i'm adopting a wait and see attitude.
I said weeks ago to get Saul on the case!
Mike would’ve handled it MUCH better .
Even if found not guilty, this just doesn't have good optics for Baker. Regardless of innocence or guilt, or levels of each, I think it is becoming more obvious that he put himself poor situations with high probability of negative outcomes, to say the least.
Even if found not guilty, this just doesn't have good optics for Baker. Regardless of innocence or guilt, or levels of each, I think it is becoming more obvious that he put himself poor situations with high probability of negative outcomes, to say the least.
But this whole thing is just, well, CRAZY!