but those will be high picks in the first round, and the Jets just lost their best player by miles. They'll be rebuilding for awhile at this point. Seattle is gonna be really good for awhile.
Beyond that, Jamal Adams wants a new contract and that’s going to eat into Seattle’s cap space. This is reminiscent of the “all-in” moves the Rams made, except now the salary-cap isn’t expected to skyrocket.
IMO, the Seahawks must win immediately for this to pay off
This looks like a huge haul for the Jets and a stupid move for Seattle. They traded away a package one would expect for a franchise quarterback. All for a guy thats signed for a season that may not occur, on a team he really didn't want to go to and who can walk in no later than '22.
This looks like a huge haul for the Jets and a stupid move for Seattle. They traded away a package one would expect for a franchise quarterback. All for a guy thats signed for a season that may not occur, on a team he really didn't want to go to and who can walk in no later than '22.
Brian Costello
@BrianCoz
The trade: Jets send Jamal Adams and 2022 4th round pick to Seattle.
Jets get 2021 1st round pick, 2022 1st round pick, 2021 3rd round pick, safety Bradley McDougald. #nyj
I’m glad they got a good haul for him. I didn’t want to see them get screwed over because they were forced to get rid of a great talent that became a problem. And he didn’t go to Dallas!
Can't believe we got two firsts out of it. I was hoping for it but two first for a safety didn't seem very realistic. But Douglas pulled it off, along with a serviceable player (McDougald) and a 3rd for a 4th exchange. JD is showing himself to be quite the shrewd GM
I didn't think they would get close to that kind of compensation for Adams.
Next year's draft is going to be unusual at best. This college season is going to be unchartered territory. Shorter season - for 1. For Juniors with little game tape they may wait to Sr year leaving less of a pool with players to really impact NFL rosters.
I think Seattle is smart for going to get a proven player amidst all that uncertainty.
There is a reason he was on the block for so long.
In the flip side this is beyond stupid to me from Seattle's perspective. They aren't a safety away from being a true contender to me. That OL is still very poor. Their drafts have been pretty fuckin bad lately. This is just another big splash move by Carroll like getting Jimmy Graham or Clowney. Where did those moves get them? That team has slowly deteriorated and Carroll thinks one big move is going to breathe life back into that team. As long as Wilson is there they have a chance but they need way more than him. Now, maybe Seattle is better off with Adams than fucking up their picks but if they don't win it this year then they have limited resources now to continually improve their team. This is really a now or never type of move and when do those moves really pay off?
I didn't think they would get close to that kind of compensation for Adams.
Next year's draft is going to be unusual at best. This college season is going to be unchartered territory. Shorter season - for 1. For Juniors with little game tape they may wait to Sr year leaving less of a pool with players to really impact NFL rosters.
I think Seattle is smart for going to get a proven player amidst all that uncertainty.
Agree 100%. With everything going on, the next draft (maybe 2) will be even bigger crap shoots than usual. 2 first rond picks is a nice haul, but so is having one of the best defensive players in the league.
There is a reason he was on the block for so long.
In the flip side this is beyond stupid to me from Seattle's perspective. They aren't a safety away from being a true contender to me. That OL is still very poor. Their drafts have been pretty fuckin bad lately. This is just another big splash move by Carroll like getting Jimmy Graham or Clowney. Where did those moves get them? That team has slowly deteriorated and Carroll thinks one big move is going to breathe life back into that team. As long as Wilson is there they have a chance but they need way more than him. Now, maybe Seattle is better off with Adams than fucking up their picks but if they don't win it this year then they have limited resources now to continually improve their team. This is really a now or never type of move and when do those moves really pay off?
Gotta disagree with you there. They were in the divisional round of the playoffs and lost by less than a score, that means they’re already a contender.
You say their drafts have been pretty bad but then berate them for trading away picks.
Yes, it is a win now move for them, why would they be anything other than a win now team with a 30 yr old Russel Wilson and a 30 yr old Bobby Wagner. Just think about the star power a team needs if they hope to contend with the Chiefs right now, barring injuries across the board, they will be dominant for the next 10 years.
Needless to say, I like the move for Seattle. I just looked at the Jets depth chart and if there is one team that looks worse than we do, it is them. They have a lot of work to do and draft picks don’t guarantee anything, for example, the Cleveland Browns.
I’m struggling to see how this trade helps the Jets in their current situation. They only have a projected 18 mil going into 2021 free agency. They have no corners, no pass rush, 1 slot receiver and a terrible O Line.
They also have a qb on a rookie contract, which to some, would be an indication to win now.
So essentially the GM is saying that their window to win is 3-5 years from now, even with the patriots dynasty looking for a reboot. If I was a Jets fan I would be livid, however, Jamal Adams did force their hand so it wasn’t much they could do.
Leave it to the Jets to make sure the Patriots still find their way to the playoffs.
There is a reason he was on the block for so long.
In the flip side this is beyond stupid to me from Seattle's perspective. They aren't a safety away from being a true contender to me. That OL is still very poor. Their drafts have been pretty fuckin bad lately. This is just another big splash move by Carroll like getting Jimmy Graham or Clowney. Where did those moves get them? That team has slowly deteriorated and Carroll thinks one big move is going to breathe life back into that team. As long as Wilson is there they have a chance but they need way more than him. Now, maybe Seattle is better off with Adams than fucking up their picks but if they don't win it this year then they have limited resources now to continually improve their team. This is really a now or never type of move and when do those moves really pay off?
Gotta disagree with you there. They were in the divisional round of the playoffs and lost by less than a score, that means they’re already a contender.
You say their drafts have been pretty bad but then berate them for trading away picks.
Yes, it is a win now move for them, why would they be anything other than a win now team with a 30 yr old Russel Wilson and a 30 yr old Bobby Wagner. Just think about the star power a team needs if they hope to contend with the Chiefs right now, barring injuries across the board, they will be dominant for the next 10 years.
Needless to say, I like the move for Seattle. I just looked at the Jets depth chart and if there is one team that looks worse than we do, it is them. They have a lot of work to do and draft picks don’t guarantee anything, for example, the Cleveland Browns.
My point is this is as god as they are going to be fir the foreseeable future. They will have to give Adams a huge contract soon enough. They are down on premium picks. Yes, they have sucked with their picks and I made the comment in my previous post that made this works out better than using the picks. Still, just because getting Adams may be better than the picks doesn't make it the right move imo. It can be a lose lose situation. Imo, they should be doing what they can to protect Wilson and fix that OL. Wilson is so amazing. I make comments all the time how these mobile QBs aren't good investments to me. They all get hurt. (Don't take this the wrong way. These players have success. But guys like Watson, Wentz, Tannehill, Darnold, Rodgers, etc. have a missed time. Saying not a good investment isn't the right phrase. It's just that it is hard to count on these guys to win a championship) The only exception has been Wilson.
That OL should have been built up and instead of doing that they got run blockers to help out their run game. It has helped but it isn't enough.
If a team were to take a chance the I get why Seattle did. Still, I don't think it is wise. In the NFL when you basically put all your eggs into one basket it never works out. That's what I see here.
I’m struggling to see how this trade helps the Jets in their current situation. They only have a projected 18 mil going into 2021 free agency. They have no corners, no pass rush, 1 slot receiver and a terrible O Line.
They also have a qb on a rookie contract, which to some, would be an indication to win now.
So essentially the GM is saying that their window to win is 3-5 years from now, even with the patriots dynasty looking for a reboot. If I was a Jets fan I would be livid, however, Jamal Adams did force their hand so it wasn’t much they could do.
Leave it to the Jets to make sure the Patriots still find their way to the playoffs.
What was the alternative? Keep him after he shit all over his HC? That sets a great tone for the team.
They just lost their best player on the team by miles. They don't have a great defense anymore. They're banking everything on Sam Darnold. No real offensive line or weapons to speak of. They got the two 1st round picks, BUT unfortunately for the Jets, Seattle is already and will be a very good team for the next two years, so those two 1st round picks will be near the end of the 1st round, not at the top. Don't get me wrong. Those two picks are valuable, but it's not like they're going to have two top 10 picks or even two picks in the top half of the first round for that matter. And now the Jets need basically every position under the sun...again.
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
The #Jets have traded Jamal Adams to the #Seahawks, source confirms
@BrianCoz
The trade: Jets send Jamal Adams and 2022 4th round pick to Seattle.
Jets get 2021 1st round pick, 2022 1st round pick, 2021 3rd round pick, safety Bradley McDougald. #nyj
Jets deal Jamal Adams and 4th-round pick in 2022
To
Seattle, in exchange for Bradley McDougald (safety), 1st-round pick in 2021, 3rd-round pick in 2021, and 1st-round pick in 2022, source tells ESPN.
Deal is pending physicals.
Michael Gehlken
@GehlkenNFL
Cowboys thought the world of S Jamal Adams, but they weren’t comfortable giving up the farm for him. The Seahawks were.
Michael Gehlken
@GehlkenNFL
Cowboys thought the world of S Jamal Adams, but they weren’t comfortable giving up the farm for him. The Seahawks were.
Dallas knowing they'll need to draft a QB with one of those picks???
I don’t think so, they won the Super Bowl with a lights out secondary and dominant run game. The gamble is the player not the position.
David Lombardi
@LombardiHimself
Beyond that, Jamal Adams wants a new contract and that’s going to eat into Seattle’s cap space. This is reminiscent of the “all-in” moves the Rams made, except now the salary-cap isn’t expected to skyrocket.
IMO, the Seahawks must win immediately for this to pay off
Yeah well,we'll see,the Jet's have to turn those picks into something.But right now,I like their end of the deal.
Seahawks have a history of making these types of moves,dating back to Jimmy Graham.
He is under contract for this season and next.
2 1st's(Peppers was a 1st the year before) and a 3d.
So there.
An everyday offensive lineman, a defensive tackle and a meh safety who cannot tackle?
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What did we get for OBJ?
2 1st's(Peppers was a 1st the year before) and a 3d.
So there.
So one 1st, one 3rd and Peppers. Is that right mr. so there?
@BrianCoz
The trade: Jets send Jamal Adams and 2022 4th round pick to Seattle.
Jets get 2021 1st round pick, 2022 1st round pick, 2021 3rd round pick, safety Bradley McDougald. #nyj
I’m glad they got a good haul for him. I didn’t want to see them get screwed over because they were forced to get rid of a great talent that became a problem. And he didn’t go to Dallas!
I think the Jets finally got a solid GM; the coach is a little bit of a wacko but the GM is pretty sharp.
I think Seattle is smart for going to get a proven player amidst all that uncertainty.
In the flip side this is beyond stupid to me from Seattle's perspective. They aren't a safety away from being a true contender to me. That OL is still very poor. Their drafts have been pretty fuckin bad lately. This is just another big splash move by Carroll like getting Jimmy Graham or Clowney. Where did those moves get them? That team has slowly deteriorated and Carroll thinks one big move is going to breathe life back into that team. As long as Wilson is there they have a chance but they need way more than him. Now, maybe Seattle is better off with Adams than fucking up their picks but if they don't win it this year then they have limited resources now to continually improve their team. This is really a now or never type of move and when do those moves really pay off?
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I didn't think they would get close to that kind of compensation for Adams.
Next year's draft is going to be unusual at best. This college season is going to be unchartered territory. Shorter season - for 1. For Juniors with little game tape they may wait to Sr year leaving less of a pool with players to really impact NFL rosters.
I think Seattle is smart for going to get a proven player amidst all that uncertainty.
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What did we get for OBJ?
2 1st's(Peppers was a 1st the year before) and a 3d.
So there.
Again with the "two 1st rounders" nonsense just because Peppers was a first round pick in 2017.
In the flip side this is beyond stupid to me from Seattle's perspective. They aren't a safety away from being a true contender to me. That OL is still very poor. Their drafts have been pretty fuckin bad lately. This is just another big splash move by Carroll like getting Jimmy Graham or Clowney. Where did those moves get them? That team has slowly deteriorated and Carroll thinks one big move is going to breathe life back into that team. As long as Wilson is there they have a chance but they need way more than him. Now, maybe Seattle is better off with Adams than fucking up their picks but if they don't win it this year then they have limited resources now to continually improve their team. This is really a now or never type of move and when do those moves really pay off?
Gotta disagree with you there. They were in the divisional round of the playoffs and lost by less than a score, that means they’re already a contender.
You say their drafts have been pretty bad but then berate them for trading away picks.
Yes, it is a win now move for them, why would they be anything other than a win now team with a 30 yr old Russel Wilson and a 30 yr old Bobby Wagner. Just think about the star power a team needs if they hope to contend with the Chiefs right now, barring injuries across the board, they will be dominant for the next 10 years.
Needless to say, I like the move for Seattle. I just looked at the Jets depth chart and if there is one team that looks worse than we do, it is them. They have a lot of work to do and draft picks don’t guarantee anything, for example, the Cleveland Browns.
They also have a qb on a rookie contract, which to some, would be an indication to win now.
So essentially the GM is saying that their window to win is 3-5 years from now, even with the patriots dynasty looking for a reboot. If I was a Jets fan I would be livid, however, Jamal Adams did force their hand so it wasn’t much they could do.
Leave it to the Jets to make sure the Patriots still find their way to the playoffs.
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There is a reason he was on the block for so long.
In the flip side this is beyond stupid to me from Seattle's perspective. They aren't a safety away from being a true contender to me. That OL is still very poor. Their drafts have been pretty fuckin bad lately. This is just another big splash move by Carroll like getting Jimmy Graham or Clowney. Where did those moves get them? That team has slowly deteriorated and Carroll thinks one big move is going to breathe life back into that team. As long as Wilson is there they have a chance but they need way more than him. Now, maybe Seattle is better off with Adams than fucking up their picks but if they don't win it this year then they have limited resources now to continually improve their team. This is really a now or never type of move and when do those moves really pay off?
Gotta disagree with you there. They were in the divisional round of the playoffs and lost by less than a score, that means they’re already a contender.
You say their drafts have been pretty bad but then berate them for trading away picks.
Yes, it is a win now move for them, why would they be anything other than a win now team with a 30 yr old Russel Wilson and a 30 yr old Bobby Wagner. Just think about the star power a team needs if they hope to contend with the Chiefs right now, barring injuries across the board, they will be dominant for the next 10 years.
Needless to say, I like the move for Seattle. I just looked at the Jets depth chart and if there is one team that looks worse than we do, it is them. They have a lot of work to do and draft picks don’t guarantee anything, for example, the Cleveland Browns.
My point is this is as god as they are going to be fir the foreseeable future. They will have to give Adams a huge contract soon enough. They are down on premium picks. Yes, they have sucked with their picks and I made the comment in my previous post that made this works out better than using the picks. Still, just because getting Adams may be better than the picks doesn't make it the right move imo. It can be a lose lose situation. Imo, they should be doing what they can to protect Wilson and fix that OL. Wilson is so amazing. I make comments all the time how these mobile QBs aren't good investments to me. They all get hurt. (Don't take this the wrong way. These players have success. But guys like Watson, Wentz, Tannehill, Darnold, Rodgers, etc. have a missed time. Saying not a good investment isn't the right phrase. It's just that it is hard to count on these guys to win a championship) The only exception has been Wilson.
That OL should have been built up and instead of doing that they got run blockers to help out their run game. It has helped but it isn't enough.
If a team were to take a chance the I get why Seattle did. Still, I don't think it is wise. In the NFL when you basically put all your eggs into one basket it never works out. That's what I see here.
2 1st's(Peppers was a 1st the year before)
Peppers had been in the league two years at the time of the trade.
If CLE tried to trade him straight up in the pre-2019 offseason for a pick, they might have gotten a fourth.
They also have a qb on a rookie contract, which to some, would be an indication to win now.
So essentially the GM is saying that their window to win is 3-5 years from now, even with the patriots dynasty looking for a reboot. If I was a Jets fan I would be livid, however, Jamal Adams did force their hand so it wasn’t much they could do.
Leave it to the Jets to make sure the Patriots still find their way to the playoffs.
What was the alternative? Keep him after he shit all over his HC? That sets a great tone for the team.