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RicFlair : 7/27/2020 9:12 am
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This is quickly turning into a disaster  
DaddyM89 : 7/27/2020 9:18 am : link
Also, yankees play at philly tonight which is same clubhouse marlins were in past 3 days.
Hey  
Harvest Blend : 7/27/2020 9:19 am : link
all they need is 9 guys. :)
RE: This is quickly turning into a disaster  
LTIsTheGreatest : 7/27/2020 9:22 am : link
In comment 14938941 DaddyM89 said:
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Also, yankees play at philly tonight which is same clubhouse marlins were in past 3 days.


Im sure its been cleaned and disinfected from top to bottom. Plus, they will thoroughly do it again before Yanks get there
Mattingly had made some weird comment last week  
MetsAreBack : 7/27/2020 9:22 am : link
that they werent social distancing during their 'summer' training because their stadium wasnt set up for it... which i found out considering Miami has a retractable roof dome.
well it was fun while it lasted  
Jints in Carolina : 7/27/2020 9:22 am : link
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Can you imagine what football is going to be like when they start up  
Rick in Dallas : 7/27/2020 9:35 am : link
no way you can social distance properly in football IMHO.
yep  
giantfan2000 : 7/27/2020 9:42 am : link
this is why NFL is doomed as well
RE: RE: This is quickly turning into a disaster  
Carson53 : 7/27/2020 9:45 am : link
In comment 14938943 LTIsTheGreatest said:
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In comment 14938941 DaddyM89 said:


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Also, yankees play at philly tonight which is same clubhouse marlins were in past 3 days.



Im sure its been cleaned and disinfected from top to bottom. Plus, they will thoroughly do it again before Yanks get there
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That is a concern with this damn virus, it's so contagious. We'll find out how this plays out,
moving forward overall.
Florida, of course  
bigbluehoya : 7/27/2020 9:46 am : link
on brand.
The Marlins  
Carson53 : 7/27/2020 9:49 am : link
were still in Philly being tested, not in Miami.

how hard is it  
nygiants16 : 7/27/2020 9:54 am : link
when you are home jist stay home? When you go to the grocery store wear a mask, do not talk to anyone get in and go home?

What is the need to go strip clubs and parties?
Aside from cleaning the clubhouse,  
Mad Mike : 7/27/2020 9:56 am : link
apparently the Phils have quarantined the staff for the visiting clubhouse, and the Yankees brought their own clubhouse staff to Philly.
RE: how hard is it  
UConn4523 : 7/27/2020 9:58 am : link
In comment 14938959 nygiants16 said:
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when you are home jist stay home? When you go to the grocery store wear a mask, do not talk to anyone get in and go home?

What is the need to go strip clubs and parties?


This was always the worry. The real answer to this question gets way off topic but for young rich players the rules were never going to be followed. Even worse for the NFL when these guys spend all their time and energy risking their well being to play, only to tell them they can't go unwind the way they want.
RE: how hard is it  
RicFlair : 7/27/2020 9:58 am : link
In comment 14938959 nygiants16 said:
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when you are home jist stay home? When you go to the grocery store wear a mask, do not talk to anyone get in and go home?

What is the need to go strip clubs and parties?


Is there reports of marlins players hitting the strip clubs?
what a mess...  
Italianju : 7/27/2020 9:59 am : link
Premier league got through like half a season with travel and barely a case. MLB cant get through a week without having to cancel a game.

Like an idiot i thought everyone involved would take this so seriously that once we got the ball rolling sports would be fine. The leagues would pump tons of money into keeping the players safe. But you can do all that, setup a bubble with all the tech that the NBA used and still end up screwed when an idiot decides to go to a strip club (for wings, its his favorite wing place, i believe him).

Sports like MLB and NFL where the players will go home to their families who are doing god knows what are in trouble.
RE: RE: how hard is it  
nygiants16 : 7/27/2020 10:00 am : link
In comment 14938964 RicFlair said:
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In comment 14938959 nygiants16 said:


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when you are home jist stay home? When you go to the grocery store wear a mask, do not talk to anyone get in and go home?

What is the need to go strip clubs and parties?



Is there reports of marlins players hitting the strip clubs?


i was speaking in general, Lou Williams had an excuse to leave and then decided to go get food at a strip club
RE: what a mess...  
nygiants16 : 7/27/2020 10:01 am : link
In comment 14938966 Italianju said:
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Premier league got through like half a season with travel and barely a case. MLB cant get through a week without having to cancel a game.

Like an idiot i thought everyone involved would take this so seriously that once we got the ball rolling sports would be fine. The leagues would pump tons of money into keeping the players safe. But you can do all that, setup a bubble with all the tech that the NBA used and still end up screwed when an idiot decides to go to a strip club (for wings, its his favorite wing place, i believe him).

Sports like MLB and NFL where the players will go home to their families who are doing god knows what are in trouble.


this really isnt that hard..i have worked every day, never stopped, i did the grocery shopping for 2 households..wear a mask, wash your hands and keep your distance...

We shouldnt be in this same situaion 5 months later..
oh im with you ny16...  
Italianju : 7/27/2020 10:04 am : link
it shouldnt be that hard. The difficulty of it doesnt seem to be the issue, its everyone involved (including these guys family/friends) doing the right things.
to many jerk offs in this world  
nygiants16 : 7/27/2020 10:04 am : link
who think they know better who ruins it for everyone..
what does a NBA player  
MetsAreBack : 7/27/2020 10:05 am : link
have to do with this Marlins outbreak? I dont understand.

I do recall reading last week that the Marlins for some reason no one has explained, while they were training, weren't following social distancing guidelines/rules that MLB had provided. Something about the stadium not being set up for it ... but they play in a retractable roof dome.
Again...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/27/2020 10:08 am : link
Asking these men to act like monks was & remains laughable. It's not going to happen. And all you need is for one idiot & it spreads like wildfire.
RE: what does a NBA player  
UConn4523 : 7/27/2020 10:11 am : link
In comment 14938976 MetsAreBack said:
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have to do with this Marlins outbreak? I dont understand.

I do recall reading last week that the Marlins for some reason no one has explained, while they were training, weren't following social distancing guidelines/rules that MLB had provided. Something about the stadium not being set up for it ... but they play in a retractable roof dome.


It was an example. If there NBA players doing dumb shit and breaking the rules (in the bubble I might add) it wouldn't be a stretch to assume players in other sports will be following suit, especially when they aren't confined to a designated area for the season.
RE: what does a NBA player  
nygiants16 : 7/27/2020 10:11 am : link
In comment 14938976 MetsAreBack said:
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have to do with this Marlins outbreak? I dont understand.

I do recall reading last week that the Marlins for some reason no one has explained, while they were training, weren't following social distancing guidelines/rules that MLB had provided. Something about the stadium not being set up for it ... but they play in a retractable roof dome.


jist soeaking to the general selfishness of athletes
RE: Again...  
Bill L : 7/27/2020 10:12 am : link
In comment 14938981 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Asking these men to act like monks was & remains laughable. It's not going to happen. And all you need is for one idiot & it spreads like wildfire.
Not going to a strip club is acting like a monk? That's a very un-fine line there.
Lou Williams went to a strip club.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/27/2020 10:13 am : link
A lot of these athletes, like a lot of people, are selfish idiots. Plain & simple.
RE: Mattingly had made some weird comment last week  
Matt M. : 7/27/2020 10:13 am : link
In comment 14938944 MetsAreBack said:
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that they werent social distancing during their 'summer' training because their stadium wasnt set up for it... which i found out considering Miami has a retractable roof dome.
What does this even mean? You have to take measures to make the stadium work. Every other team in the league was able to social distance in their ballpark to train except the Marlins? That's on the front office and manager.
RE: RE: Again...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/27/2020 10:15 am : link
In comment 14938985 Bill L said:
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In comment 14938981 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Asking these men to act like monks was & remains laughable. It's not going to happen. And all you need is for one idiot & it spreads like wildfire.

Not going to a strip club is acting like a monk? That's a very un-fine line there.


Bill L, I wasn't necessarily referring to a strip club, but more the idea that these guys-rich, young, & probably feel invincible-are not going to lock themselves in their house/hotel rooms after getting back from the ballpark.
nobody said act like monks....  
Italianju : 7/27/2020 10:16 am : link
there is an in between here.
If the season isn't canceled now  
US1 Giants : 7/27/2020 10:17 am : link
I think players rethink their decision to play and opt out of the reason of the season.

Don't see how football is going to play this season without an outbreak either.
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GiantEgo : 7/27/2020 10:17 am : link
Florida really knows how to do that pandemic thing.
RE: RE: RE: Again...  
nygiants16 : 7/27/2020 10:19 am : link
In comment 14938988 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 14938985 Bill L said:


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In comment 14938981 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Asking these men to act like monks was & remains laughable. It's not going to happen. And all you need is for one idiot & it spreads like wildfire.

Not going to a strip club is acting like a monk? That's a very un-fine line there.



Bill L, I wasn't necessarily referring to a strip club, but more the idea that these guys-rich, young, & probably feel invincible-are not going to lock themselves in their house/hotel rooms after getting back from the ballpark.


you dont have to lock yourself in your room...

But you cant stop partying for a few months? you cant cook at home for a few months? maybe its becaise i have kids and i am passed the need to go out party phase of my life but i dont understand this constant need to do go out and do stuff that puts you in harms way...

the whole thing just pisses me off
I guess it was an exhibition game AT Atlanta  
MetsAreBack : 7/27/2020 10:19 am : link
this is an excerpt from an article last week..

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Miami Marlins manager Don Mattingly says adjustments to MLB pandemic protocols are a work in progress, as Tuesday’s exhibition game at Atlanta showed.

“Our dugout was a mess,” Mattingly said Wednesday. “They weren’t set up to have guys in the stands. It was raining. There were no tents. So we had all these guys, and nowhere to go. Then we have a zillion guys in the dugout, so there’s no way we were social distancing. Those are the things we’ve got to work through.”

Another problem Mattingly said he needs to solve: When he wears a mask, his glasses keep fogging.
...  
christian : 7/27/2020 10:20 am : link
This has always been the real threat — how to keep an outbreak from hitting a team.

The counter argument that these guys essentially won’t die, so what’s the problem has always been silly. A team can’t operate if 9 guys are sidelined.

Now imagine this playing out in football — an actual dangerous game. Imagine 3 lineman out for a game — do you really want Jones trotting out there?
My 2 girls are 2 and 5  
nygiants16 : 7/27/2020 10:21 am : link
and even they know how to social distance and when to put a mask on..

They had a dance recital friday and saturday night outside, every kid social distanced, washed their hands after each dance..

Each family was seperate from each other, wore masks if they were going near anyone or inside..

My 2 year old asks me every time i come home from can i touch you? they know, so how is it a grown adult cant follow yhose rules?
they can operate  
MetsAreBack : 7/27/2020 10:22 am : link
they've got reserves practicing in Jupiter I read earlier. I would assume the sports leagues have planned for these contingencies... though you bring up a good point about your QB being exposed if he's playing behind a makeshift OL.
nygiants16  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/27/2020 10:24 am : link
Because you're thinking reasonably & responsibly. Not everyone thinks like that. I hate the say 'it is what it is', but it applies here. Some people are going to do what they want, regardless of how it might impact others. I know that's not breaking news...
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GiantEgo : 7/27/2020 10:24 am : link
This can be contained. We can see clearly what works and what doesn't. It's not guesswork, it's not hard.
RE: ...  
Bill L : 7/27/2020 10:25 am : link
In comment 14938995 christian said:
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This has always been the real threat — how to keep an outbreak from hitting a team.

The counter argument that these guys essentially won’t die, so what’s the problem has always been silly. A team can’t operate if 9 guys are sidelined.

Now imagine this playing out in football — an actual dangerous game. Imagine 3 lineman out for a game — do you really want Jones trotting out there?
They essentially won't die, but...
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nygiants16 : 7/27/2020 10:26 am : link
In comment 14939000 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Because you're thinking reasonably & responsibly. Not everyone thinks like that. I hate the say 'it is what it is', but it applies here. Some people are going to do what they want, regardless of how it might impact others. I know that's not breaking news...


there are other factors but i wont get into that
yeah they likely won't die  
UConn4523 : 7/27/2020 10:30 am : link
but they are also supposed to perform tasks that everyday people can't and they need to be physically fit in order to do so.

The more this goes on the more we are learning about potential long term effects - most of which aren't similar to the flu.
Imagine going to a strip club during a pandemic.  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/27/2020 10:33 am : link
Like, it's no surprise that most athletes aren't very bright, but this might take the cake. It's actually scary how stupid one would have to be to go to a strip club during this pandemic.
RE: what a mess...  
Dinger : 7/27/2020 10:34 am : link
In comment 14938966 Italianju said:
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Premier league got through like half a season with travel and barely a case. MLB cant get through a week without having to cancel a game.

Like an idiot i thought everyone involved would take this so seriously that once we got the ball rolling sports would be fine. The leagues would pump tons of money into keeping the players safe. But you can do all that, setup a bubble with all the tech that the NBA used and still end up screwed when an idiot decides to go to a strip club (for wings, its his favorite wing place, i believe him).

Sports like MLB and NFL where the players will go home to their families who are doing god knows what are in trouble.


I guess Premier League should be advising the WHO cause their the only ones without issues.
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Actually a lot of leagues are...  
Italianju : 7/27/2020 10:38 am : link
doing ok. KBO, Bundesliga, Italian soccer league (im blanking on the name), le liga. I believe basketball has been playing in some countries. Premier league was just my main example cause it was the one i was following the most.
Blame  
DanMetroMan : 7/27/2020 10:40 am : link
MLB. Using a bubble was the only way this was ever going to work. EPL succesfully pulled off an entire season. NBA so far so good.
I guess Lou Williams  
GManinDC : 7/27/2020 10:40 am : link
was the only guy in the strip club??

I know people want to see sports, but lets not go singling out athletes like they are suppose to be above everyone else. Lots of people are not doing what they are supposed to do..
The EPL is interesting  
UConn4523 : 7/27/2020 10:41 am : link
but I also think its pretty hard to replicate. First, big cultural difference between Europe (England) and the US which is probably the biggest factor. Its also the sole major sport so policies aren't being influenced by other leagues. The teams are small and the field is big. Teams don't really need to travel far and stay in hotels for the most part either.

Its just a different animal, IMO.
But my guess is the other people at the strip club...  
Italianju : 7/27/2020 10:42 am : link
werent supposed to be working in a bubble with the rest of the company and some of the people in their companies families. And could risk that company losing like a billion dollars if it spread and they had to cancel the big company roll out.
RE: I guess Lou Williams  
Bill L : 7/27/2020 10:44 am : link
In comment 14939022 GManinDC said:
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was the only guy in the strip club??

I know people want to see sports, but lets not go singling out athletes like they are suppose to be above everyone else. Lots of people are not doing what they are supposed to do..


So, I guess Lou Williams would jump off a bridge (as my mam used to say...)?
RE: Actually a lot of leagues are...  
DanMetroMan : 7/27/2020 10:44 am : link
In comment 14939020 Italianju said:
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doing ok. KBO, Bundesliga, Italian soccer league (im blanking on the name), le liga. I believe basketball has been playing in some countries. Premier league was just my main example cause it was the one i was following the most.


KBO has a lot going for it.

Korea had only 299 total deaths and something like 15,000 total cases. They also have rules in place such as... ENTIRE stadiums being quarantined if a single player tests positve, a schedule which allows for them to shut down the league entirely for 3 weeks at a time with an outbreak (see the Marlins), proper contact tracing, far less travel. Also timeline wise they as a country are viewed as 4-6 months ahead of us. This season may have looked different 6 months into the future.
its def not apples to apples...  
Italianju : 7/27/2020 10:44 am : link
but they arent completely different either. Again they went through like half a season with barely an issue. So even when we factor that stuff in you would have hoped MLB was doing better.
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