Toronto has been banished from their true homes. I suspect they are living in hotels whether they are playing "home" games in Pittsburgh or if they're playing elsewhere. The entire NBA is playing on the road. They seem to be dealing with it.
I'm not sure what your point it. Neither I, nor anyone else in this thread, said the burden of traveling to play a road game is something teams can't deal with or aren't accustomed to doing. But if you don't think it's a benefit for a team to get to play a road game at home instead of traveling to it, even in an empty house, I think you're being pretty silly.
I never said it was a benefit. I'm saying that the penalty for playing a "home" game on the road is minimal compared to ordinary times. The burden that is placed on these players is trying to stay healthy, live in relative isolation and follow these difficult protocols. Compared to that I would think that which hotel they're living in and which empty park they're playing is pretty inconsequential. This is especially true for the Toronto Blue Jays, who at the last minute were kicked out of their own country.
RE: RE: I think that you should treat Miami (probably Tampa, Houston, Phoenix.
as if they were Katrina cities. Yuu wouldn't force the players to go nor would you have the home teams forfeit.
Why not LA and all of California? What data and science are you using in that approach?
Add them too. Play everything in NY. I don't think they should have started in the first place but even if they did, I can't see punishing a team for not wanting to play in a biohazard zone.
Well why the hell would they have to get wet? You dont find Atlanta at fault here? Odd take.
No I don't. Atlanta may be guilty of a minor logistical error but that does not excuse gross violations of COVID protocols by Miami. As a fan thats been caught in the rain in Yankee Stadium, I and thousands of other fans were able to scurry to some place where it was dry. A few dozen players couldn't do the same ? Did Mattingly even complain to Atlanta that there facilities were not in place ? Or did he just say "Fuck it"? It looks like the later. As of yesterday the positive percentage for the Miami Marlins was something like 33%. Its probably higher now. Thats higher than a meatpacking plant. I suspect that there was a lot of other carelessness and violations that have not been made public that occured prior to the trips to Atlanta or Philly.
Andy Slater
@AndySlater
JUST IN: Miami-Dade @MayorGimenez
says the Marlins should follow the 14-day quarantine protocol when returning to South Florida after they were knowingly exposed to COVID-19.
They should forfeit these games. They clearly violated protocol and have been doing so for some time. I don't blame the Nationals one bit for not wanting to go there. They're being asked to go into a hotspot to play a team that is not taking this seriously.
You're making a lot of accusations and assumptions in this post. I'm not sure what is real and what is exaggerated re: what Marlins have been doing relative to other teams. They likely picked this up in Atlanta last week by the way, and one of the Nats players Soto got this too... lets not make Miami out to be villains. That's not reasonable.
Martinez should stay home if he's "12" on a scale of 10 concerned. They can play without him, the league should move on without him. Take the year off if its that much of a personal concern.
My view is if they refuse to travel/play - you either shut the entire league down or you forfeit their weekend games. Think the latter is the better approach but i could see both responses.
I don't think it's fair to make Miami out to be the villains either. I'd rather just make the entire state of Florida out to be the villain, save for the few normal people down there that don't insist on pissing into the wind at every turn.
All of these states had months of horror stories from NYC to go on. And what did they do along with some leaders? They pissed right in everyone's face and laughed about it. It's all about the money? Yea, Fuck them.
I have a bridge to sell you if you honestly believe the florida culture didn't play a huge part in this.
Well why the hell would they have to get wet? You dont find Atlanta at fault here? Odd take.
No I don't. Atlanta may be guilty of a minor logistical error but that does not excuse gross violations of COVID protocols by Miami. As a fan thats been caught in the rain in Yankee Stadium, I and thousands of other fans were able to scurry to some place where it was dry. A few dozen players couldn't do the same ? Did Mattingly even complain to Atlanta that there facilities were not in place ? Or did he just say "Fuck it"? It looks like the later. As of yesterday the positive percentage for the Miami Marlins was something like 33%. Its probably higher now. Thats higher than a meatpacking plant. I suspect that there was a lot of other carelessness and violations that have not been made public that occured prior to the trips to Atlanta or Philly.
The more games teams miss the more difficult it becomes to makes the games up. They have not built in many off days to do this. And even with doubleheaders it's difficult. I cannot imagine they'd be okay with a scenario where some teams play 60, some play 55, some play 50, etc.
So I don't see how MLB can deal with this if they truly are committed to not canceling the season.
with Miami's mayor saying all Marlins players need to quarantine for 14 days. Why they decided to play in everyones home parks with 30 different sets of local rules, regs, mayors... when there are no fans... good call!
I'd like to see the season play out, especially since the Yankees
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Toronto has been banished from their true homes. I suspect they are living in hotels whether they are playing "home" games in Pittsburgh or if they're playing elsewhere. The entire NBA is playing on the road. They seem to be dealing with it.
I'm not sure what your point it. Neither I, nor anyone else in this thread, said the burden of traveling to play a road game is something teams can't deal with or aren't accustomed to doing. But if you don't think it's a benefit for a team to get to play a road game at home instead of traveling to it, even in an empty house, I think you're being pretty silly.
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as if they were Katrina cities. Yuu wouldn't force the players to go nor would you have the home teams forfeit.
Why not LA and all of California? What data and science are you using in that approach?
Add them too. Play everything in NY. I don't think they should have started in the first place but even if they did, I can't see punishing a team for not wanting to play in a biohazard zone.
Well why the hell would they have to get wet? You dont find Atlanta at fault here? Odd take.
@AndySlater
JUST IN: Miami-Dade @MayorGimenez
says the Marlins should follow the 14-day quarantine protocol when returning to South Florida after they were knowingly exposed to COVID-19.
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They should forfeit these games. They clearly violated protocol and have been doing so for some time. I don't blame the Nationals one bit for not wanting to go there. They're being asked to go into a hotspot to play a team that is not taking this seriously.
You're making a lot of accusations and assumptions in this post. I'm not sure what is real and what is exaggerated re: what Marlins have been doing relative to other teams. They likely picked this up in Atlanta last week by the way, and one of the Nats players Soto got this too... lets not make Miami out to be villains. That's not reasonable.
Martinez should stay home if he's "12" on a scale of 10 concerned. They can play without him, the league should move on without him. Take the year off if its that much of a personal concern.
My view is if they refuse to travel/play - you either shut the entire league down or you forfeit their weekend games. Think the latter is the better approach but i could see both responses.
I don't think it's fair to make Miami out to be the villains either. I'd rather just make the entire state of Florida out to be the villain, save for the few normal people down there that don't insist on pissing into the wind at every turn.
All of these states had months of horror stories from NYC to go on. And what did they do along with some leaders? They pissed right in everyone's face and laughed about it. It's all about the money? Yea, Fuck them.
I have a bridge to sell you if you honestly believe the florida culture didn't play a huge part in this.
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Well why the hell would they have to get wet? You dont find Atlanta at fault here? Odd take.
No I don't. Atlanta may be guilty of a minor logistical error but that does not excuse gross violations of COVID protocols by Miami. As a fan thats been caught in the rain in Yankee Stadium, I and thousands of other fans were able to scurry to some place where it was dry. A few dozen players couldn't do the same ? Did Mattingly even complain to Atlanta that there facilities were not in place ? Or did he just say "Fuck it"? It looks like the later. As of yesterday the positive percentage for the Miami Marlins was something like 33%. Its probably higher now. Thats higher than a meatpacking plant. I suspect that there was a lot of other carelessness and violations that have not been made public that occured prior to the trips to Atlanta or Philly.
Gee you think?
Of course this is the case.
So I don't see how MLB can deal with this if they truly are committed to not canceling the season.