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NFT: NYT - off world ufo technology confirmed and... no one cares

mattlawson : 7/27/2020 3:34 pm
This report has been rumored to be in the works for a while, I expect more of these to drop as the sources become comfortable with going public, but I wonder if normal people who do not follow this topic closely are seeing more and more newsworthy information presented these days.

TBH - I'm wondering why this isn't a bigger story - this should be everywhere. What do you all think? Disinformation? Nothing to see here? Seems like kind of a big deal to say conclusively in the NY Times and have it verified that "we can't make" these things, they are from "off-world" and "not made on this earth."

I mean this isn't the National Enquirer gang...

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Eric W. Davis, an astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and then a consultant for the Pentagon U.F.O. program since 2007, said that, in some cases, examination of the materials had so far failed to determine their source and led him to conclude, “We couldn’t make it ourselves.”

The constraints on discussing classified programs — and the ambiguity of information cited in unclassified slides from the briefings — have put officials who have studied U.F.O.s in the position of stating their views without presenting any hard evidence.

Mr. Davis, who now works for Aerospace Corporation, a defense contractor, said he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department agency as recently as March about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth.”

Mr. Davis said he also gave classified briefings on retrievals of unexplained objects to staff members of the Senate Armed Services Committee on Oct. 21, 2019, and to staff members of the Senate Intelligence Committee two days later.

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RE: I’m open to other explanations. Given the news maybe y’all should too  
jtfuoco : 7/29/2020 5:56 pm : link
In comment 14940641 mattlawson said:
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Here is a primer on how from TTSA to new patents to The NY Times and implications for the world religions where we are today given these recent revelations Link - ( New Window )


I too question why is this all coming out now? I recall on some show a few years back that somebody said that the a flaw flag event would occur in the near future using an alien threat to secure massive amounts of funding and sevure power for some elites in Governent and the public sector mainly tech companies. I don't believe it but it has always stuck in my head as a good idea if you could pull it off.
False Flag event? You'd never be able to sell it. If it was an attem  
Zeke's Alibi : 7/29/2020 6:02 pm : link
to grab power and money using aliens as the justification, people aren't that stupid. We could put all the resources of the world into a singular focus and we'd still get buttfucked by aliens if they had the ability to come here from some far-away time or place.
Bob Lazar  
jtfuoco : 7/29/2020 6:27 pm : link
I go back and forth on the guy. However, his case is not clear cut for a few reasons. First if he is just a random guy who made this all up why has his house been raided twice by the FBI with the most recent one just a few years ago. Second, why did the Los Alamos labs say he never worked there when his name is in the phone book and he is in the local paper listed as a scientist there. Finally, his social security number is gone and well as other key personal documents for somebody that made up a bunch of crap somebody went through a lot of work to erase and discredit him. Not to mention he never wrote a book or charged money speaking at UFO convention circuits the guy has not made one dime off his story. With that all said his story has a ton of holes and not a single person after all these years will verify the guy was ever at S4 or knew who he was. So that is why I am mixed on the topic
More will come out about him - I think there’s a lot to it.  
mattlawson : 7/29/2020 6:32 pm : link
Back to the OP - from the follow up the next day just so that all is not pinned on Eric Davis despite his credibility:

"Numerous associates of the Pentagon program, with high security clearances and decades of involvement with official U.F.O. investigations, told us they were convinced such crashes have occurred, based on their access to classified information."
That explains  
XBRONX : 7/29/2020 6:55 pm : link
how the lizard people got here.
RE: More will come out about him - I think there’s a lot to it.  
jtfuoco : 7/29/2020 7:05 pm : link
In comment 14940693 mattlawson said:
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Back to the OP - from the follow up the next day just so that all is not pinned on Eric Davis despite his credibility:

"Numerous associates of the Pentagon program, with high security clearances and decades of involvement with official U.F.O. investigations, told us they were convinced such crashes have occurred, based on their access to classified information."


However, the biggest problem with that quote is the word "convinced" so they not seen any craft or crashed parts if they exist where are they at and who is managing research on them. That info I bet will never see the light of day.
Special access programs  
mattlawson : 7/29/2020 8:46 pm : link
Classified top secret. There has been a coverup. It’s all being confirmed right now, if you told me 20 years ago this was going to happen I’d have said you’re crazy. To the point I’m wondering what’s the trick being pulled... why right now
I don't think anything really hinges on Lazar  
widmerseyebrow : 7/30/2020 1:59 am : link
There's nothing original or credible about his story. I think anyone could fabricate a similar story on top of some small bits of truth.

That said I do think something is up here. What logical reason would our government need to publicly announce they are studying these things? For Davis to state "off world vehicles?"
RE: Special access programs  
eli4life : 7/30/2020 2:33 am : link
In comment 14940788 mattlawson said:
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Classified top secret. There has been a coverup. It’s all being confirmed right now, if you told me 20 years ago this was going to happen I’d have said you’re crazy. To the point I’m wondering what’s the trick being pulled... why right now


Just spitballing but maybe we are about to have a major jump in technology that couldn’t be explained otherwise

Or for those conspiracy lovers we have been in contact with them and have to start to catch the public up before having “first contact “
Could be  
mattlawson : 7/30/2020 8:40 am : link
Those patents filed through the navy are pretty darn interesting. Maybe we’ve had a reverse engineering breakthrough after all
CNN bump  
mattlawson : 7/30/2020 8:30 pm : link
Pentagon task force to release UFO encounter reports
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The distance between earth and the closest inhabitable planet  
GeofromNJ : 8/1/2020 10:13 am : link
is so vast that it's vain to think any civilization could ever traverse it. The nearest star to earth (other than the sun) is Alpha Centauri which is 4.4 light-years away. One light year is 6 trillion miles (9 trillion km).
Either they are  
XBRONX : 8/1/2020 10:17 am : link
time travelers or come from a parallel universe. LOL
They have mastered the technology to travel through wormholes  
Big Al : 8/1/2020 11:12 am : link
A wormhole is a speculative structure linking disparate points in spacetime, and is based on a special solution of the Einstein field equations. Theoretical models of wormholes postulate it is an adelic homogeneous subset whose imaginary field is an ideal in a Z-graded ring.
Could be  
mattlawson : 8/1/2020 11:37 am : link
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