NFT: Mets vs Red Sox: Peterson debut

Giving Rosario plenty of time at Leadoff.

Is this the exact same lienup as last night ?? Except no Dom ??

like that.

In comment 14940071 Eric on Li said:

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like that.

I’d like it more if cano wasn’t in lineup

I like seeing a couple 94 mph sinkers!

In comment 14940079 Earl the goat said:

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In comment 14940071 Eric on Li said: Quote: like that. I’d like it more if cano wasn’t in lineup

No argument there.

Peterson looking solid early. Velocity 93/94, mixing pitches nicely. His delivery reminds me of Buehrle and I think that was one of his comps going back to the draft. Obviously gave up a rope off the wall but probably just wanted to give JDFD a chance to show off the gun. So far so good.

fast gun or legit velo increase?

94 for a lefty is mlb passable IMO, see if he keeps it up

In comment 14940117 pjcas18 said:

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fast gun or legit velo increase? 94 for a lefty is mlb passable IMO, see if he keeps it up

probably a little bit of all 3. He's a big guy and the scouting report was always low 90's, so he's only a little bit ahead of that right now.

he was aggressive that whole at bat. Swung at all 4 pitches he saw and got the ball in play.

There's been reports about Peterson from side sessions, etc that his fastball has been up around 94.

Doubt the gun is fast.

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Two plays missed by inches. Peterson in real trouble here.

Ill take it.

pitching

peterson has looked good allowing relatively weak contact. Pitchers who can keep the ball in the ballpark can keep you in games and sometimes that's all you need.

Obviously would be better if we were a better defensive team but they are on their way. Sub Gimenez for Cano and there aren't any big negatives left. Which is a nice step forward from the last...decade.

In comment 14940137 pjcas18 said:

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pitching

Yeah you can see why Peterson's scouting reports played up that he was a grinder. He works both sides of the plate and seems to hang in there and go after hitters. For a guy who never pitched above AA he looks polished, which probably makes some sense given his age and pedigree.

Awful job by Rojas not challenging that. Ugh.

His ball moves alot. So far so good. Hope I didnt jinx it

JD!!

Peterson and he just seems completely unfazed. Awesome job.

doesn't seem to waste a lot of pitches - maybe because he doesn't have swing and miss stuff, but if he can keep the ball in the park and defense doesn't fail him he can be a good innings eater. Not a lot of hard hit balls.

Jarrett Seidler
@jaseidler
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I think David Peterson is a 55 which makes me the high guy on him at BP at least I think, but you can see the outlines of a third starter here: heavy fastball, plus slider, useful enough curve and change, hits his targets

Tails like Johan's, at least in this outing

WTF. Love ya kid but you swing at everything. NIMMOBP needs to be setting the table!!

for Peterson, leaves with a runner on 2B (Pillar) still his responsibility.

Nicole Menner
@NicoleMenner
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A strong MLB debut for David Peterson.

5.2 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 BB, 3 K

His night comes to an end in the sixth after 78 pitches, and leaves with a runner on second.

In comment 14940170 pjcas18 said:

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for Peterson, leaves with a runner on 2B (Pillar) still his responsibility. Nicole Menner @NicoleMenner · 1m A strong MLB debut for David Peterson. 5.2 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 BB, 3 K His night comes to an end in the sixth after 78 pitches, and leaves with a runner on second.

And the first run doesnt score if A.) ump makes the right call B.) Rosario throws the ball to first C.) Rojas challenges the call.

good. Please re-sign this man.

Sit down!!

If I have to guess, Rojas is going to go Betances-Diaz to end unless we put up a bunch of runs.

strickland time...maybe not.

Bettances

In comment 14940182 pjcas18 said:

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Bettances

he was likely already warmed up since Alonso was down to 1 strike. Guessing this will shelve Diaz in the 9th though.

In comment 14940182 pjcas18 said:

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Bettances

*Betances

had velocity issues, what is his velocity normally. I think he was topping out at 95 or so with his FB.

Is that less than normal for him?

low year was 96.6 ('14) and high year was 98.5 ('17). The others were in the 97's.

Last year he was 94.4 in his 1 inning pitched which is where he is so far to start this year as well.

shouldn't see any meaningful appearances.

In comment 14940191 pjcas18 said:

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shouldn't see any meaningful appearances.

Very likely wont when Brach, Hughes, and Gsellman return.

In comment 14940193 ZGiants98 said:

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In comment 14940191 pjcas18 said: Quote: shouldn't see any meaningful appearances. Very likely wont when Brach, Hughes, and Gsellman return.

Yep, he (along with Bashlor and Sewald) are placeholders.

In comment 14940194 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 14940193 ZGiants98 said: Quote: In comment 14940191 pjcas18 said: Quote: shouldn't see any meaningful appearances. Very likely wont when Brach, Hughes, and Gsellman return. Yep, he (along with Bashlor and Sewald) are placeholders.

Yup and Bashlor was DFA today! Already gonzo! :)

Diaz
Lugo
Wilson
Betances
Familia
Brach
Smith
Hughes
Gsellman

Thats 9 relievers. Thats insanely deep.

Smith wRC+ 174
Nimmo wRC+ 145
Davis wRC+ 127
Conforto wRC+ 111
Ramos wRC+ 91
Rosario wRC+ 90
Cespedes wRC+ 79
McNeil wRC+77
Cano wRC+ 71
Alonso wRC+ 27

the last remaining Sandy Alderson relief pitching acquisition in that cluster of bullpen arms he traded for few years back?

Conforto wRC+ 221
Smith wRC+ 174
Nimmo wRC+ 145
Davis wRC+ 127
Ramos wRC+ 91
Rosario wRC+ 90
Cespedes wRC+ 79
McNeil wRC+77
Cano wRC+ 71
Alonso wRC+ 27

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the last remaining Sandy Alderson relief pitching acquisition in that cluster of bullpen arms he traded for few years back?

Nope there's a few left. Hanhold... Ryan...

They arent on the taxi squad though.

ryan I think might still be in the organization

I wish we had Syndergaard this year, I think we would have a legit shot at the WS with him. I think we'll be a playoff team but not a title contender.

In comment 14940212 ZGiants98 said:

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In comment 14940208 Rory said: Quote: the last remaining Sandy Alderson relief pitching acquisition in that cluster of bullpen arms he traded for few years back? Nope there's a few left. Hanhold... Ryan... They arent on the taxi squad though.

Zamora, too, right? And is Nogosek still around? Guy pitched great at AAA

In comment 14940215 CMicks3110 said:

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I wish we had Syndergaard this year, I think we would have a legit shot at the WS with him. I think we'll be a playoff team but not a title contender.

Degrom is the best pitcher in baseball. That always gives you a chance in the postseason. To me, the key is getting Stroman back. Jake, Stro, Matz—that’s good enough if the bullpen and lineup live up to expectations.

off to a rough start.

right in Boston.

I thought the stuff from Peterson was pretty solid. His velocity was there, his ball moved, and he threw a lot of pitches. Him turning into a reliable above average 4th/5th starter type would be really sweet for us in 2020 and going into next year too. There's a real difference between Matz type production and Lockett/Oswalt type production.

All that said, he was hit around a bit, 9 baserunners (7h and 2bb) in less than 6 innings is a WHIP over 1.5, and he didn't get a bunch of strikeouts either. D did him in a little bit, but that's the risk you take when you can't generate Ks. He's certainly earned a few more starts until Stroman is ready and earned a chance to compete with Wacha and Porcello for a rotation spot this year.

especially with a mediocre defense allowing a few soft hits per game. If that's his typical start in terms of the way he throws the ball and the contact he allows (actual results against being variable) we will take it. If we want to play worst case with that performance the first batter of the game almost took him deep and when the bases were loaded he got out of the jam instead of giving up a big hit. But change 1 or 2 pitch outcomes and he easily could have given up 3-4 runs over those 5+ innings, which would have still been a decent outing. If he can throw that well and give them another 5+ decent outings this year it will be huge. More than that would be gravy.