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Nate Solder opts out of 2020 NFL season

Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/29/2020 3:13 pm
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton

Nate Solder has decided to opt out of this season.
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Wow that was a quick  
nygfaninorlando : 7/29/2020 3:14 pm : link
change of plans.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/29/2020 3:14 pm : link
Absolutely right decision for him and his family  
nygiants16 : 7/29/2020 3:14 pm : link
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At least now we know  
Josh in the City : 7/29/2020 3:14 pm : link
that Andrew Thomas will be starting in the position he should be from day 1.
Andrew Thomas time  
nygfaninorlando : 7/29/2020 3:15 pm : link
Looking forward to him manning DJ's blindside for years to come.
Looks like we can’t cut him next year  
Jolly Blue Giant : 7/29/2020 3:16 pm : link
As many projected.
It's  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/29/2020 3:16 pm : link
not Thomas who may benefit from this most, but Cam Fleming.
Cap hit?  
Stan in LA : 7/29/2020 3:17 pm : link
?
Do NYG get salary cap relief this year?  
speedywheels : 7/29/2020 3:18 pm : link
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It's the right move  
Matt in SGS : 7/29/2020 3:18 pm : link
and based on the moves the Giants made in the draft and Cam Flemming, I wonder if Gettleman and the Giants front office was taking this in consideration that they would need a new LT and right tackle. You can't risk Jones out there. Good luck to Solder, I don't blame him one bit.
Smart decision  
Breeze_94 : 7/29/2020 3:18 pm : link
Given his situation.

Curious, how does this effect his contract moving forward? Will Giants still have the same flexibility in terms of dead money next season or does that roll to 2022 now?
Absolutely the right decision  
section125 : 7/29/2020 3:18 pm : link
for Solder to make.
RE: It's  
Stan in LA : 7/29/2020 3:18 pm : link
In comment 14940471 Eric from BBI said:
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not Thomas who may benefit from this most, but Cam Fleming.

Eric, Cam Fleming is NOT starting over the #4 overall pick in the draft if that is what you are implying. Assume you mean Fleming is going to the right side.
Good luck to him and his family  
robbieballs2003 : 7/29/2020 3:19 pm : link
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RE: Do NYG get salary cap relief this year?  
Stan in LA : 7/29/2020 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14940474 speedywheels said:
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Great minds think alike!
Was kind of expecting him to  
AcesUp : 7/29/2020 3:20 pm : link
Given his family situation. I think it’s the right one for him.
Wait, what does he mean his own bout with cancer  
robbieballs2003 : 7/29/2020 3:20 pm : link
?
RE: ...  
Gettledogman : 7/29/2020 3:20 pm : link
In comment 14940464 Eric from BBI said:
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He had to his son fighting cancer is very vulnerable to Corona God forbid
RE: RE: It's  
giants#1 : 7/29/2020 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14940481 Stan in LA said:
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In comment 14940471 Eric from BBI said:


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not Thomas who may benefit from this most, but Cam Fleming.


Eric, Cam Fleming is NOT starting over the #4 overall pick in the draft if that is what you are implying. Assume you mean Fleming is going to the right side.


He means that Thomas was likely starting anyway. The only question was whether it would be at LT or RT.

Solder opting out puts Fleming in the drivers seat for the starting RT position now with a raw 3rd round pick his primary competition.
Was thinking the same thing Robbie  
TommytheElephant : 7/29/2020 3:22 pm : link
I had no idea he had cancer as well

Prayers for his family.
RE: Wait, what does he mean his own bout with cancer  
LBH15 : 7/29/2020 3:23 pm : link
In comment 14940486 robbieballs2003 said:
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testicular cancer in 2015
smart decision and we might have  
larryflower37 : 7/29/2020 3:23 pm : link
2 rookie tackles.
hopefully Peart show enough to beat out Gates and Fleming.
RE: RE: Wait, what does he mean his own bout with cancer  
robbieballs2003 : 7/29/2020 3:23 pm : link
In comment 14940491 LBH15 said:
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In comment 14940486 robbieballs2003 said:


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testicular cancer in 2015


Thanks. I never knew that.
Is Cam  
darktimes : 7/29/2020 3:23 pm : link
next on the depth chart like Eric suggests or is it Gates?
RE: Is Cam  
robbieballs2003 : 7/29/2020 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14940494 darktimes said:
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next on the depth chart like Eric suggests or is it Gates?


I think they want Gates competing at C but now with this move he may be taking on both positions.
Gates and Fleming  
LBH15 : 7/29/2020 3:25 pm : link
just became two critical players on this roster.

And the OL Coach has a lot of work ahead of him.
RE: Wait, what does he mean his own bout with cancer  
BocaGene : 7/29/2020 3:25 pm : link
In comment 14940486 robbieballs2003 said:
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You beat me to it...I never heard anything about "his" cancer before. If it was last year, that would explain his poor season.
Can we roll over the cap savings to 2021?  
Saquads Barkley : 7/29/2020 3:25 pm : link
Since his contract is on pause, he would still have a ton of dead money if we cut him next year. Hopefully we can take the money we save from him opting out for 2020 and have it for 2021. Not sure how this works at all. If we dont get a cap credit, why not sign Clowney or Logan Ryan for a year?
RE: It's  
Ivan15 : 7/29/2020 3:25 pm : link
In comment 14940471 Eric from BBI said:
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not Thomas who may benefit from this most, but Cam Fleming.


One less preseason debate for BBI. Now, Gates or Fleming to RT.

Fleming was adequate at RT for the Patriots, but a bit shaky at LT for the Cowboys.
Well here we go  
OC2.0 : 7/29/2020 3:26 pm : link
Thomas- Hernandez- Gates/ Lemieux- Zeitler- Fleming.
Ur OL for 2020.
I'm guessing that game one will be 90 percent running plays  
Marty in Albany : 7/29/2020 3:30 pm : link
and 10 percent play-action passes with Jones sprinting to his right.

I expect Thomas to be really good, but not on his first day.
Right Call  
Thegratefulhead : 7/29/2020 3:31 pm : link
It is what I would do. He has enough money, could he forgive himself? You have to manage against the worst case scenario here.
Solder is making the right move at the right time for his family and  
Ivan15 : 7/29/2020 3:32 pm : link
For the Giants too.

I hope everything works out well for him and his family.
not unexepected  
bc4life : 7/29/2020 3:33 pm : link
may well have played last snap fpr Giants
Cap  
UGADawgs7 : 7/29/2020 3:33 pm : link
How does this affect salary cap and does Solder contract roll over 1 more year?
Here's hoping Anakim is wrong...  
Milton : 7/29/2020 3:35 pm : link
...about Solder having guaranteed money remaining on his contract.
I thought this would happen  
Biteymax22 : 7/29/2020 3:35 pm : link
Best of luck to him, my gut says that he's played his last NFL snap but he he's set up for life financially and seems like a sharp enough guy to transition to another career.

Real opportunity here for Thomas to show himself as an LT and also for a guy like Murphy to sneak on the roster.
Not surprising  
Dave on the UWS : 7/29/2020 3:36 pm : link
at all. He’s always been a person of integrity and faith. Do we get cap relief is the interesting question.
RE: Cap  
robbieballs2003 : 7/29/2020 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14940508 UGADawgs7 said:
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How does this affect salary cap and does Solder contract roll over 1 more year?


Yes, all contracts of opt outs get pushed back 1 year. Players that are not at high risk get $150,000 that is taken out of their future salary. Players that are at high risk, and I'd assume Solder fits this category, get $350,000 and I believe this does NOT come out of their future salary.
Good for him and his family  
Saquads26 : 7/29/2020 3:38 pm : link
This may be a blessing in disguise as well...
RE: Can we roll over the cap savings to 2021?  
Ivan15 : 7/29/2020 3:38 pm : link
In comment 14940499 Saquads Barkley said:
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Since his contract is on pause, he would still have a ton of dead money if we cut him next year. Hopefully we can take the money we save from him opting out for 2020 and have it for 2021. Not sure how this works at all. If we dont get a cap credit, why not sign Clowney or Logan Ryan for a year?


Opting out should be like a 1-year retirement. Solder’s contract anticipated that when the contract hit the last year or at the end, his value would be reduced. If everything gets pushed forward, the Giants actually are being penalized for a player’s decision.
I think everyone discounts Peart.  
larryflower37 : 7/29/2020 3:38 pm : link
He is a 3rd pick.
I know he is raw but the timing might be right to throw him in the fire and start building this future line
RE: Can we roll over the cap savings to 2021?  
Ivan15 : 7/29/2020 3:38 pm : link
In comment 14940499 Saquads Barkley said:
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Since his contract is on pause, he would still have a ton of dead money if we cut him next year. Hopefully we can take the money we save from him opting out for 2020 and have it for 2021. Not sure how this works at all. If we dont get a cap credit, why not sign Clowney or Logan Ryan for a year?


Opting out should be like a 1-year retirement. Solder’s contract anticipated that when the contract hit the last year or at the end, his value would be reduced. If everything gets pushed forward, the Giants actually are being penalized for a player’s decision.
RE: I think everyone discounts Peart.  
Jay on the Island : 7/29/2020 3:40 pm : link
In comment 14940517 larryflower37 said:
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He is a 3rd pick.
I know he is raw but the timing might be right to throw him in the fire and start building this future line

He is extremely raw and he hasn't had OTA's, minicamp, preseason games, etc. IMO the only way Peart sees the field is is both Fleming and Gates are injured. This benefits Fleming and Gates the most.
RE: I think everyone discounts Peart.  
mfsd : 7/29/2020 3:41 pm : link
In comment 14940517 larryflower37 said:
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He is a 3rd pick.
I know he is raw but the timing might be right to throw him in the fire and start building this future line


I have a feeling we’ll see him on the field earlier than a lot of people think. He’ll certainly get his chances
100% correct decision  
Jints in Carolina : 7/29/2020 3:41 pm : link
I wish his family well.
Had a feeling this would happen  
Metnut : 7/29/2020 3:41 pm : link
when the topic was brought up here a few weeks ago. Makes sense for him given his family situation and the large amount of money (much of it paid by our Giants) that he's already earned. Hopefully his son stays safe during this carnage.

IMO, Gettleman really made a mistake when they didn't cut him this offseason (in addition to signing him to begin with). The good news is that he was so awful last year, his opting out likely won't hurt the on field product at all since he was below replacement level last year and a street FA can likely step in and play at the same level he did last year. It would be really hard for any of these rookies/journeyman to somehow play worse than Solder's awful 2019 season.

Hopefully the cap implications for the Giants are somewhat favorable from this opt-out, but I wouldn't expect that. I think we'll end up stuck with Solder on the same shitty contract next year, except he'll be another year older.
RE: I think everyone discounts Peart.  
Ivan15 : 7/29/2020 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14940517 larryflower37 said:
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He is a 3rd pick.
I know he is raw but the timing might be right to throw him in the fire and start building this future line


If Peart was really in the discussion, he is a better candidate for LT and Thomas for RT (road grader). I doubt the Giants would do that right now, unless Peart just blew away the competition.
It must've been an extremely difficult decision for Solder  
Jay on the Island : 7/29/2020 3:43 pm : link
On the football side this is good for the young OL such as Kyle Murphy who now have a significantly better chance of making the team.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/29/2020 3:45 pm : link
14 practices plus no preseason.

My $$$ is on Fleming starting given he knows the new OL system.
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