With the Solder opt-out, should the Giants consider a 1 year deal for Logan Ryan?
Given the uncertainty with everything going on with DeAndre Baker it could be a savvy move for Dave G. Also, in theory, if not resigned after this year it could lead to another comp pick for us in 2021.
It reminds me of when teams restructure a players contract and everyone gets excited that we have more cap space. But all it did was push the money down the road hurting the cap in future years.
More than any year this year is not the year to mortgage the future on.
However, he is probably the second best player on the market. If he’s willing to make a deal...but I doubt it
With a 1 year deal... wouldn't we be able to accomplish this?
Ryan is a good player though.
Solder played his last game with the Giants
They should still get some cap $ to carry over and it sounds like Solder is likely still going to be cuttable next year?
If he is cut between the 2020 and 2021 seasons, something many Giants beats expect, his dead money will be the same as if he had played this season: the remainder of his prorated signing bonus.
I doubt Solder's opt out supplied them with enough money to spend it all on Logan Ryan.
2020 is about playing the young kids, teaching them, and building up the systems. If they win it's a bonus. They need to stay cap lean until things normalize.
All these 1st round picks that Gettleman has been drafting are all going to want a lot of money soon. And his buddy Leonard Williams is going to want some too.
But it all depends on their evaluations of those players vs. what's anticipated to be available next March. And certainly also factored in against the projected raises/extensions due to players like Barkley and Hernandez.
If a couple of guys like Holmes, Beal and/or Love show they can be reliable contributors then would prefer the money is banked for another day.
If a couple of guys like Holmes, Beal and/or Love show they can be reliable contributors then would prefer the money is banked for another day.
The thing about Ryan is that his versatility, experience in 2 versions of the NE system, and all around good reputation as a leader would virtually guarantee him some value - sort of like Deon Grant.
Everyone wants to peg Holmes as a slot guy and I totally get it because he has that skill set, but the fact remains he has mostly played outside so it's going to be an adjustment. And if Baker is gone it's certainly possible he ends up needing to play outside.
Love could be the starter in the slot. Or deep safety. Or a backup.
Same for McKinney.
Baker who knows.
Ballentine/Beal could push Haley down the depth chart or end up cuts themselves.
But in every outcome short of all those players showing they are capable of starting and staying healthy, there's room for Ryan. And even in the scenario where they all play well, what are the odds any of them can come close to matching the kind of production Ryan put up last year if he's doing it again (8 turnovers + 4.5 sacks on a very good defense)? I know his QB rating against regressed a little bit last year as well and teams threw at him a lot, but his ball production and big play production still seems intact.
Ryan just relegates the younger resources that were invested in to the bench. What’s the value of that for a team not likely a consistent winner yet.
Team still needs a handful of areas to invest but, imv, better to let this coaching staff sort that out in their own way versus continuing to shell out free agent dollars.
Gettleman already borrowed against Solder’s ridiculous contract once. The Giants are getting a reprieve, nothing more on the money. No reason to do something silly.
I'm really not worried about getting young players reps at any position on this defense. If they are anywhere close to to being net positive impact players there will be playing time. Put another way I'm a lot less worried about that scenario than seeing a weak link like Grant Haley stick and get picked on every key 3rd down. That can bring down an entire unit just like DRC's injury vs. GB in the 2017 WC.
Along similar lines a center can either help pull a line together or be the weakest link. Britt would add some veteran stability which is now that much more necessary with Thomas likely at LT and a less talented vet at RT (or another young player).
The secondary and OL have been the weakest units on this team since 2016. There's a lot more young talent in each room now and I'd rather those young guys develop as part of a competent unit than a continued problem area.
Bingo!
I'm also very intrigued with Chris Williamson.
If Baker remains on exempt list we are entering the season with just 3 players who showed they were capable of playing that much last season (Bradberry, Peppers, Love).
There are 2 promising rookies whom we all want to push for starting spots right away (McKinney, Holmes).
Beal, Ballentine, Williamson are all certainly going to compete for depth spots, play a lot on special teams, and possibly fill those remaining slots to play near half the game - but expecting all 3 to be capable of doing so is a lot to ask and even if all 3 did, it's still 1 "safety" short of the deployment Graham used a lot last year which someone like Ryan would have the versatility to fill.
Net all that out and even before any injuries hit the players Ryan would be most likely to keep on the bench would be the Hartage/Haley/Askew's unless they outplay the 3 young draft picks or injuries hit.
Saving the cap room for next year is of course valid as is making a sober assessment of whatever his worth is at age 29. The big play production last year was top flight but that doesn't reveal how he played on 99% of all the other snaps. With at least 4 non-Peppers/Bradberry spots available for our 1st/2nd year players to win substantial playing time I am not worried about him blocking anybody. I'd rather set the bar for the level of play and competition in the group higher - if Ryan is still good enough to do that.
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Giants will probably need Solder's cap "savings" this year to pay for his salary cap hit next year.
With a 1 year deal... wouldn't we be able to accomplish this?