being looked at for the remainder of the season. Apparently MLBPA is polling players on the possibility of one nine inning game followed by a seven inning game or possibly just two seven inning games.
Reason is to reduce player and staff time together.
IMHO - if you don't transmit COVID in the first 3 hours of the first game, what are the chances of getting COVID in the next three hours and from whom? Players are sitting on the team bus for at least 30 minutes together - tighter than in the dugout or clubhouse.
I also understand that players are not using the showers in the clubhouses - but changing in their hotels. Not being able to shower between games would absolutely suck. But again, seems specious that they can't/aren't using the showers at the stadium. The players certainly are not social distancing in the dugouts nor are the vast majority wearing masks.
What thinkest thou?
If anything, require masks in dugout and unused players out of the dugout(seats behind the dugout in case needed?)
I cant speak for all schools but it sounds like a lot of schools are doing a combination of in class learning and remote learning. If teachers are constantly covering classes then when are they doing remote learning? They aren't. You have to have time for that built into the schedule. Plus, schools where I am will have temp checks before entering. That will take a long time to get everyone checked so you have to reduce the time inside in classes as well otherwise a good chunk would always miss first period. They also want staggered times for leaving so it won't be a normal get up an go when the bell rings. I am assuming classes are getting dismissed one at a time.
How about a 10-run mercy rule?
And let's restrict games to a three hour limit so everyone can make it home on time.............
Robbie that is why they have extra players - to give more rest to players.
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they are talking about a 5 hour school day instead of the normal 7-8 which doesn’t make sense to me. If you took all the precautions to make it happen and aren’t allowing new people to enter schools or classrooms throughout the day, why is going to turn into a morning program?
I cant speak for all schools but it sounds like a lot of schools are doing a combination of in class learning and remote learning. If teachers are constantly covering classes then when are they doing remote learning? They aren't. You have to have time for that built into the schedule. Plus, schools where I am will have temp checks before entering. That will take a long time to get everyone checked so you have to reduce the time inside in classes as well otherwise a good chunk would always miss first period. They also want staggered times for leaving so it won't be a normal get up an go when the bell rings. I am assuming classes are getting dismissed one at a time.
Apparently we are finding out next week. The original proposal was simply school closes at 12/1230pm and that's it, nothing at home after that just a pat on the ass and a good luck to the students and teachers. But I agree if its in tandem with an at-home program then they will need to account for that with needing time to do so.
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they are talking about a 5 hour school day instead of the normal 7-8 which doesn’t make sense to me. If you took all the precautions to make it happen and aren’t allowing new people to enter schools or classrooms throughout the day, why is going to turn into a morning program?
I cant speak for all schools but it sounds like a lot of schools are doing a combination of in class learning and remote learning. If teachers are constantly covering classes then when are they doing remote learning? They aren't. You have to have time for that built into the schedule. Plus, schools where I am will have temp checks before entering. That will take a long time to get everyone checked so you have to reduce the time inside in classes as well otherwise a good chunk would always miss first period. They also want staggered times for leaving so it won't be a normal get up an go when the bell rings. I am assuming classes are getting dismissed one at a time.
Apparently we are finding out next week. The original proposal was simply school closes at 12/1230pm and that's it, nothing at home after that just a pat on the ass and a good luck to the students and teachers. But I agree if its in tandem with an at-home program then they will need to account for that with needing time to do so.
I hate to be a dick, but can we kindly keep it to baseball.
I see nothing wrong with that. No fans. Saves arms.
7 inning doubleheaders limits that issue. Not sure how I feel about it, but whatever it takes to finish the season I'm for.
Regular season is 162 games in 183/185 days(not including 30 games in 6 weeks of ST) - not that far different except in 66 days you do not have the total wear down of players that comes with 6 months of tedium and physicality of 162 games.
Yes not every team has the Yankees bullpen, but they do not have it in a regular season either.
And they don't have a lot of double headers in the regular season either.
I'm not really a fan of changing the rules of the actual game to accommodate a very short, tight schedule. But I think it's pretty clear that adding a bunch of doubleheaders exacerbates certain competitive gaps between teams that simply expanding rosters can't compensate for, and considering some rules changes to try and help rebalance things makes at least some sense.
Regular season is 162 games in 183/185 days(not including 30 games in 6 weeks of ST) - not that far different except in 66 days you do not have the total wear down of players that comes with 6 months of tedium and physicality of 162 games.
Yes not every team has the Yankees bullpen, but they do not have it in a regular season either.
There were 1180 Saves in the 2019 season. 343 of those Saves were made with 0 days rest. That's 29% of all Saves.
With the daily doubleheaders concept you're severely limiting the opportunity for closers to be in back-to-back save situations. If a closer is in during Game 1 of that day, he won't be in Game 2.
The advantage of having a quality bullpen with multiple late-inning options will be even greater than usual.
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Yes not every team has the Yankees bullpen, but they do not have it in a regular season either.
And they don't have a lot of double headers in the regular season either.
I'm not really a fan of changing the rules of the actual game to accommodate a very short, tight schedule. But I think it's pretty clear that adding a bunch of doubleheaders exacerbates certain competitive gaps between teams that simply expanding rosters can't compensate for, and considering some rules changes to try and help rebalance things makes at least some sense.
There are enough in a regular season because of makeups or days filled in that should have been days off. There aren't likely to be dblhdrs each week for each team. There may be a few. And competitive balance is still and always tilted toward the Yanks, Dodgers, Red Sox etc - teams with more money. So I do not think that should be a true limitation on scheduling. Unless a hard CAP is installed, there will always be an imbalance on the rosters.
It's not really a big deal IMO. This season is going to continue to be weird.
Incidentally--do any of you know what the official scoring is for putting a runner on second base in extra innings? I haven't yet seen a game that went into extra innings. It can't be something stupid like a 2 base intentional walk, can it? Is the runner's on base percentage affected by starting off on second base?
Incidentally--do any of you know what the official scoring is for putting a runner on second base in extra innings? I haven't yet seen a game that went into extra innings. It can't be something stupid like a 2 base intentional walk, can it? Is the runner's on base percentage affected by starting off on second base?
Scored as an error - with no assigned to any player is what I heard explained over the weekend.
Incidentally--do any of you know what the official scoring is for putting a runner on second base in extra innings? I haven't yet seen a game that went into extra innings. It can't be something stupid like a 2 base intentional walk, can it? Is the runner's on base percentage affected by starting off on second base?
Runner at second goes as unearned run if he scores......
Regular season is 162 games in 183/185 days(not including 30 games in 6 weeks of ST) - not that far different except in 66 days you do not have the total wear down of players that comes with 6 months of tedium and physicality of 162 games.
Yes not every team has the Yankees bullpen, but they do not have it in a regular season either.
Agreed...someone posted the schedule for the Yanks above and the days off doesn't look much different than a regular schedule extrapolated.
Bigger rosters....not sure why the change to 7 innings is really required - other than arms not being in 100% shape. But again, you have the larger rosters avail.
Where did you see this? I have seen nothing positive. All I heard or read was players(especially pitchers) do not like it. I believe they had one in the Dodgers game that still went 13 or 14 innings last night.
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re: man on 2nd base in extras, but this rule is apparently really well received and I'm expecting it to be brought back full-time in 2022 once the new CBA is ratified.
Where did you see this? I have seen nothing positive. All I heard or read was players(especially pitchers) do not like it. I believe they had one in the Dodgers game that still went 13 or 14 innings last night.
I don't either (like it, that is). Kills off a key shot at a doable double play, something some pitchers were good at producing and all surely tried to produce. It just dilutes, or can dilute, the quality all tied games and likely stresses pitchers more when that's absolutely not needed.
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runner at second base and now 7 inning games for doubleheaders, MLB is starting to resemble a backyard whiffle ball game where the kids make up the rules as they go. Just si I'm clear on this-- if I pitch all 7 innings in one game of a double header and shut out or no-hit the opposition or pitch a perfect game, it counts the same as doing it in 9 innings?
Incidentally--do any of you know what the official scoring is for putting a runner on second base in extra innings? I haven't yet seen a game that went into extra innings. It can't be something stupid like a 2 base intentional walk, can it? Is the runner's on base percentage affected by starting off on second base?
Runner at second goes as unearned run if he scores......
Thanks Bill. At least that makes sense.
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runner at second base and now 7 inning games for doubleheaders, MLB is starting to resemble a backyard whiffle ball game where the kids make up the rules as they go. Just si I'm clear on this-- if I pitch all 7 innings in one game of a double header and shut out or no-hit the opposition or pitch a perfect game, it counts the same as doing it in 9 innings?
Incidentally--do any of you know what the official scoring is for putting a runner on second base in extra innings? I haven't yet seen a game that went into extra innings. It can't be something stupid like a 2 base intentional walk, can it? Is the runner's on base percentage affected by starting off on second base?
Scored as an error - with no assigned to any player is what I heard explained over the weekend.
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Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association have agreed to stage seven-inning doubleheaders starting Aug. 1, sources familiar with the situation tell ESPN.