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NFT: Mets add Dozier (in lineup), Zamora for tonight

Defenderdawg : 7/30/2020 3:52 pm
Dozier in lineup tonight 5-14; 2 HRS vs Perez

Nunez to DL
Strickland DFA
Lowrie suffering from PCL laxity ???

Brodie - Lagares needs AB's
Brodie - Stroman to face batters Friday in practice; no date yet for return
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Lineup  
Defenderdawg : 7/30/2020 3:54 pm : link
Mets Game 7 of 60, vs. BOS
Thursday, July 30, 7:07 p.m.
LHP Martín Pérez (0-1, 7.20)

Rosario SS
Alonso 1B
McNeil 3B
J.D. Davis LF
Conforto RF
Céspedes DH
Dozier 2B
Ramos C
Nimmo CF

Matz LHP (0-0, 1.50)
I would have played  
pjcas18 : 7/30/2020 3:57 pm : link
Gimenez at 2B, in fact I'd make him a permanent lineup addition.

2B has to be the position of least need in the entire organization.
I’d rather have Dozier on the team  
ZGiants98 : 7/30/2020 3:59 pm : link
Than Nunez so I’ll consider that an upgrade. Strickland can kick rocks too although I would have rather it had been for Brach, Hughes, or Gsellman.

Please God never start Rene Rivera again. He makes Nido look like Johnny Bench.
This is like the 5th lefty starter  
ZGiants98 : 7/30/2020 4:01 pm : link
We are facing in 6 days right? Fuckin nuts!
Last nights game is still pissing me off  
ZGiants98 : 7/30/2020 4:03 pm : link
We should have won that. Awful umpiring, awful luck, awful situational hitting, and awful defense all combined to rip that one away from us.

I hope the team comes out fired up tonight. Win the series and I’m more than good.
..  
Named Later : 7/30/2020 4:31 pm : link
Honestly, I wish they'd get their lineup vs Lefty pitching sorted out.

Z....didn't they score a bunch of runs against a lefty last week ?? Which game was it ??
RE: ..  
ZGiants98 : 7/30/2020 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14941213 Named Later said:
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Honestly, I wish they'd get their lineup vs Lefty pitching sorted out.

Z....didn't they score a bunch of runs against a lefty last week ?? Which game was it ??


Yes, actually both of the first two games of this series.
seems odd to not start Gimenez  
Eric on Li : 7/30/2020 4:36 pm : link
hope that doesn't become a theme if he keeps hitting.
PCL laxity? and this is coming out now about Lowrie?  
Torrag : 7/30/2020 5:08 pm : link
Mets medical as usual is a joke. I had my ACL fixed a few years back after I tore it playing tennis. Waited a few days for the swelling to go down. They took the MRI of the knee. Doc sits me down, shows me the pics. Torn ACL, lax PCL, a few little spurs and some cartilage fringe. NO worries, he says when I go in to fix the ACL I'll clean up all the rest too. Rehab should be typical 6 weeks and go easy on it until you gain your confidence back, listen to your body....

12 weeks later I was back to full speed although going easy on the knee for say another month and I haven't thought about it since. WTF is going on with this guy, or the doctors? This should have been fixed and done.
RE: seems odd to not start Gimenez  
Metnut : 7/30/2020 5:15 pm : link
In comment 14941217 Eric on Li said:
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hope that doesn't become a theme if he keeps hitting.


I'm worried that if he starts games and keeps hitting then Brodie will trade him for a rental starter in 2-3 weeks. We might be better off with him getting only part-time duty this year.
You will find what you seek..  
Johnny5 : 7/30/2020 5:58 pm : link
… in Zamoraaaa!!!

- Witch from Conan
Looks like the high strike call is in fashion tonight.  
PhiPsi125 : 7/30/2020 7:27 pm : link
HP ump is crazy.
Love that FOX brought back the MLB theme  
Sean : 7/30/2020 7:53 pm : link
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Bases loaded  
Defenderdawg : 7/30/2020 8:15 pm : link
McNeil knows what to do with it

2-1




McNeil is such a professional hitter  
PhiPsi125 : 7/30/2020 8:17 pm : link
Wish more players would emulate his hitting style.
This is Matz in a nutshell  
PhiPsi125 : 7/30/2020 8:28 pm : link
Whenever you see the slightest bit of frustration, he falls apart. Too bad because he’s a nice pitcher. Just can’t handle adversity.
I can't watch this Fox feed..  
moze1021 : 7/30/2020 8:30 pm : link
The fake fans and crowd noise is driving me insane.


Also so ridiculous about Lowrie...chump for not just being upfront about it. No respect for the dude.
Apropos of the BP trades convo Drew Smith looks pretty damn good  
Eric on Li : 7/30/2020 9:05 pm : link
mid-90s with good movement and a really good looking changeup. Wonder if they give him a second inning.
The Mets may have something in Drew Smith  
Defenderdawg : 7/30/2020 9:05 pm : link
Really like his approach
Great work by Smith  
Defenderdawg : 7/30/2020 9:33 pm : link
Hopefully the Mets have some solid AB’s in them

That’s one
RE: The Mets may have something in Drew Smith  
Eric on Li : 7/30/2020 9:33 pm : link
In comment 14941325 Defenderdawg said:
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Really like his approach


he's got some movement on the ball and a few different pitches in his arsenal. Most of the other young guys the last several years have just thrown hard. The cutter, the change up, the slider all looked like usable pitches with the 95mph fb mixed in.
Familia looked real good there  
Eric on Li : 7/30/2020 9:55 pm : link
splitting this series would be just as much of a waste as the atlanta series (mostly on poor situational hitting).
Can someone explain to me  
speedywheels : 7/30/2020 10:07 pm : link
Why Rojas lets Matz throw 104 pitches, but deGrom only 88? If he lets deGrom pitch the 7th last night, maybe they win.

Meanwhile, only three freakin' hits tonight....

Grrr....
Do the Mets  
pjcas18 : 7/30/2020 10:16 pm : link
have anyone who can get a big hit?

lead off runners stranded, men on 3rd with less than 2 outs stranded.

pitching doesn't matter if you can't score.
Conforto  
Ron Johnson : 7/30/2020 10:17 pm : link
Just isn’t a good player
Just excruciating  
Stufftherun : 7/30/2020 10:23 pm : link
to watch this team come up small one AB after another.
RE: Conforto  
speedywheels : 7/30/2020 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14941345 Ron Johnson said:
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Just isn’t a good player


Well, that's a dumb statement. He's a fine player. Shitty AB there, but he's a good player
Hmm....  
moespree : 7/30/2020 10:24 pm : link
Early on but not seeing any reason to think they've improved all that much since last season. At best they seem to be about the same. At best.
RE: Do the Mets  
speedywheels : 7/30/2020 10:25 pm : link
In comment 14941344 pjcas18 said:
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have anyone who can get a big hit?

lead off runners stranded, men on 3rd with less than 2 outs stranded.

pitching doesn't matter if you can't score.


This team strikes out waaaaaaaaaaay to much. It would be OK if they hit as many HR as the Yankees do. But they don't, so it's not.
RE: Conforto  
moze1021 : 7/30/2020 10:32 pm : link
In comment 14941345 Ron Johnson said:
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Just isn’t a good player


Lol..what?

So predictable!  
Stufftherun : 7/30/2020 10:33 pm : link
He just can’t put anyone away and he’s wild!
This team  
pjcas18 : 7/30/2020 10:35 pm : link
sucks.

I hope they cancel the season once the Mets get into last place in the league.

they need to hit rock bottom before they can get better.

#1 pick, new ownership group, Syndergaard back.

reset the whole thing.
Diaz is a thrower not a pitcher  
Vanzetti : 7/30/2020 10:36 pm : link
Second coming of Ollie Perez, who also had one great year

Sticking with this guy cost the Mets last year and will again

So...60 game season, every game matters more  
moze1021 : 7/30/2020 10:37 pm : link
And the thing that sucks is basically every Mets offensive player has underperformed for the first 12% of the season..

They aren't bad..they have just played poorly outside of 2 games in Fenway.
In a normal year, no reason to panic. But this year?? Need a couple guys to get hot and get this offense going...

The talk about a very good player not being a good player, or them not being improved as a team... Those are silly statements at this point in time.
RE: Diaz is a thrower not a pitcher  
moze1021 : 7/30/2020 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14941353 Vanzetti said:
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Second coming of Ollie Perez, who also had one great year

Sticking with this guy cost the Mets last year and will again


Difference was Ollie went from throwing 99 to 92..and then still found a way to salvage a career and perform... Diaz is all still there physically, it really doesn't make sense
Objectively  
pjcas18 : 7/30/2020 10:41 pm : link
the Mets have NOT improved from last year and it's not close.

You replaced Syndergaard and Wheeler with Porcello and Wacha.

It's not silly to feel they are worse.

They can't afford to lose deGrom starts like yesterday.



RE: Diaz is a thrower not a pitcher  
Eric on Li : 7/30/2020 10:42 pm : link
In comment 14941353 Vanzetti said:
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Second coming of Ollie Perez, who also had one great year

Sticking with this guy cost the Mets last year and will again


They clearly need to re-evaluate his status. He's got a big arm but they propped him up off an outlier season. He reminds me a lot of Hansel Robles, though certainly more talented. He doesn't have enough of a repertoire or know how to pitch enough to dominate when he's off.

I know I'm a broken record but give Familia the next closing opp and take it from there. If they don't start doing better with their situational hitting against mediocre relievers who are throwing 30+ pitches per inning and on the ropes, it won't matter much though.
Diaz  
pjcas18 : 7/30/2020 10:42 pm : link
has insane stuff, he needs coaching or a veteran catcher or a sports psychologist or something.

He doesn't trust his stuff.

99 mph fastball backed up by an 89 mph slider. He should get better results.
RE: Objectively  
moze1021 : 7/30/2020 10:44 pm : link
In comment 14941356 pjcas18 said:
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the Mets have NOT improved from last year and it's not close.

You replaced Syndergaard and Wheeler with Porcello and Wacha.

It's not silly to feel they are worse.

They can't afford to lose deGrom starts like yesterday.




Fair..but this stretch has been on the offense.....and Diaz.

Believe me...I despise our GM.. but this team could easily be 5-1 going into this game
Diaz  
KDubbs : 7/30/2020 10:44 pm : link
Is a fucking headcase. Worst god damn trade ever. Watch him go to a small market team and be good again.
RE: RE: Diaz is a thrower not a pitcher  
moze1021 : 7/30/2020 10:45 pm : link
In comment 14941357 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 14941353 Vanzetti said:


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Second coming of Ollie Perez, who also had one great year

Sticking with this guy cost the Mets last year and will again




They clearly need to re-evaluate his status. He's got a big arm but they propped him up off an outlier season. He reminds me a lot of Hansel Robles, though certainly more talented. He doesn't have enough of a repertoire or know how to pitch enough to dominate when he's off.

I know I'm a broken record but give Familia the next closing opp and take it from there. If they don't start doing better with their situational hitting against mediocre relievers who are throwing 30+ pitches per inning and on the ropes, it won't matter much though.


I was about to post that Robles was a better comp for baffling that a guy with great stuff could drop off without loss of physical ability..good call.
RE: Objectively  
moespree : 7/30/2020 10:46 pm : link
In comment 14941356 pjcas18 said:
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the Mets have NOT improved from last year and it's not close.

You replaced Syndergaard and Wheeler with Porcello and Wacha.

It's not silly to feel they are worse.

They can't afford to lose deGrom starts like yesterday.




I think I agree. I said earlier at best they were the same and I think that's probably true. At their best they'll be about the same as last year. But that's at their best.
RE: RE: Objectively  
pjcas18 : 7/30/2020 10:46 pm : link
In comment 14941359 moze1021 said:
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In comment 14941356 pjcas18 said:


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the Mets have NOT improved from last year and it's not close.

You replaced Syndergaard and Wheeler with Porcello and Wacha.

It's not silly to feel they are worse.

They can't afford to lose deGrom starts like yesterday.






Fair..but this stretch has been on the offense.....and Diaz.

Believe me...I despise our GM.. but this team could easily be 5-1 going into this game


Lugo blew it yesterday.

Diaz didn't even pitch.
RE: Diaz  
Eric on Li : 7/30/2020 10:47 pm : link
In comment 14941358 pjcas18 said:
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has insane stuff, he needs coaching or a veteran catcher or a sports psychologist or something.

He doesn't trust his stuff.

99 mph fastball backed up by an 89 mph slider. He should get better results.


There is a long list of guys who have had great stuff but couldn't hack it as closers in this (or other comparable) market. They bought their own hype off 1 great season that didn't matter all that much because his team wasn't even really in playoff contention.
Betances,  
ZGiants98 : 7/30/2020 10:48 pm : link
Familia, or Lugo needs to be the closer going forward. If Diaz doesnt have a second pitch, thats it. Work on it in garbage innings.
Vanzetti’s right ...  
Stufftherun : 7/30/2020 10:49 pm : link
Diaz is a simple minded thrower and has no plan other than slinging the ball and hoping it finds the plate. He couldn’t hit his spot or any other if his life depended on it.

Thin SP and a closer that had to be better for them to succeed. By all appearances he’s still a lost soul that doesn’t belong on the mound in a big spot.
RE: RE: RE: Objectively  
moze1021 : 7/30/2020 10:49 pm : link
In comment 14941363 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14941359 moze1021 said:


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In comment 14941356 pjcas18 said:


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the Mets have NOT improved from last year and it's not close.

You replaced Syndergaard and Wheeler with Porcello and Wacha.

It's not silly to feel they are worse.

They can't afford to lose deGrom starts like yesterday.






Fair..but this stretch has been on the offense.....and Diaz.

Believe me...I despise our GM.. but this team could easily be 5-1 going into this game



Lugo blew it yesterday.

Diaz didn't even pitch.


We should have won the game AFTER Lugo blew it...

Diaz blew game 2 of the season, that's the one I was referring to
RE: Diaz  
Vanzetti : 7/30/2020 10:50 pm : link
In comment 14941358 pjcas18 said:
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has insane stuff, he needs coaching or a veteran catcher or a sports psychologist or something.

He doesn't trust his stuff.

99 mph fastball backed up by an 89 mph slider. He should get better results.


Pitching is about locating. Diaz has zero ability to locate. Against Ozuna if he throws that pitch an inch higher it’s a harmless fly all. But Diaz has no ability to spot the ball like that. He just throws it up there and counts on his movement to make guys miss. Sometimes it does but too often he just loses the plate. He just hit a guy twice with the bases loaded.
RE: RE: Diaz  
pjcas18 : 7/30/2020 10:51 pm : link
In comment 14941364 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 14941358 pjcas18 said:


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has insane stuff, he needs coaching or a veteran catcher or a sports psychologist or something.

He doesn't trust his stuff.

99 mph fastball backed up by an 89 mph slider. He should get better results.



There is a long list of guys who have had great stuff but couldn't hack it as closers in this (or other comparable) market. They bought their own hype off 1 great season that didn't matter all that much because his team wasn't even really in playoff contention.


Sure, and I'm no more an expert than anyone else, but I see Diaz pitch and I feel his results should be better.

I don't know how to fix him, but I know the Mets need him.

I never watched Hansel Robles pitch and felt like his results should have been better. I felt like he was pretty mediocre with good velocity.
the biggest reasons they are struggling are the BP and defense  
Eric on Li : 7/30/2020 10:52 pm : link
Wilson, Diaz, and Lugo have all blown games now. But if the BP gets on track they will be better than last year.

Eventually the bats will get hot.

The defense has had issues and I guess you have to hope McNeil is just shaking off rust at a new position because usually he's been one of their better defenders wherever he plays.
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