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NFT: Anyone have a child(s) who were tested for Covid?

nyjuggernaut2 : 8/1/2020 7:21 pm
My 10 year old son woke up with a sore throat and low grade fever today (100.2). Immediately my wife freaked and called his doctor. She got an appointment for early afternoon but when they went the doc said they aren’t testing kids for Covid unless they display “extreme” symptoms. Instead they did a strep test that came back negative. Doc also said my son should quarantine for the next week. Luckily about an hour ago his fever broke and he seems to be on the mends.

I found it odd however that they wouldn’t test for Covid considering we are still in the midst of the pandemic. Has anyone had a sick child that was tested? Or did your doctor say the same as my son’s?
Where do you live?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/1/2020 7:26 pm : link
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That seems absolutely moronic. Why not test while the symptoms  
PhiPsi125 : 8/1/2020 7:32 pm : link
are easier to treat? Glad to hear your kid is getting better but stories like this are exactly what’s wrong. Pisses me off. This whole pandemic has been handled horribly...unsurprisingly.
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I am Ninja : 8/1/2020 7:33 pm : link
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RE: Where do you live?  
nyjuggernaut2 : 8/1/2020 8:00 pm : link
In comment 14942211 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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I live in northern jersey. Half hour ride to the city.
My son is 12 and we all got tested  
Stu11 : 8/1/2020 8:04 pm : link
Dr's offices often are not testing unless you have severe symptoms. We went to a City MD urgent care place and they tested no problem on the spot. Problem is it took 11 days to get results. In the interim we went to a state run site, didn't have to get out of the car and got results in 3 days.
No.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/1/2020 8:06 pm : link
And the problem is the delay between getting tested & finding out your results. My friend got tested-came back negative-but he waited 9 days for his results.
My two oldest children need to be tested  
fivehead : 8/1/2020 8:10 pm : link
before they can go back to college.

I woke up in the middle of the night a couple of weeks ago with a flaming hot fever, and was dizzy and nauseous. I also started having diarrhea, which lasted about 6 days. I almost missed work that first day, but I popped some ibuprofen and soldiered through. I wonder if that was the China Flu, or just a bad Burger King Whopper?
RE: RE: Where do you live?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/1/2020 8:13 pm : link
In comment 14942236 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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I live in northern jersey. Half hour ride to the city.


I live in southern Westchester. I barely had any symptoms, but wanted the test because I see my mother often and she's 70 years-old. I filled out the form on the Westchester Board of Health website (Thursday), got a call AND the test appointment the next day (on a Friday) at a drive-thru site, and got the results on Monday. I can't complain at all about the process.

Sorry you have to wait for something worse to happen to your kid. It's ridiculous. Did you try your local health department as opposed to your doctor?
You would think  
section125 : 8/1/2020 8:16 pm : link
that they would want to protect you the parents. Kids do well with it, although there are a few exceptions.

Glad he is feeling better.
Find a new dr ASAP  
NJBlueTuna : 8/1/2020 8:25 pm : link
Kids are often asymptomatic so to be expressing covid symptoms warrants a test esp from perspective of not infecting others. Ruling out other issues like strep just delays potential disease spread. Tests are readily available. Don’t understand why your doctor took this route and I’m sorry to tell you I would be concerned about it. My kids both got tested immediately for far less symptoms. I am also in NJ.

I am glad your kid is feeling better

Btw the protocol is to quarantine for 2 weeks. Find a new dr
Also.....  
NJBlueTuna : 8/1/2020 8:26 pm : link
To test for strep makes no sense as strep in kids always results in high fever.
Back in March before lockdowns  
nygiants16 : 8/1/2020 8:30 pm : link
both my kids 2 and 5 had 104 fevers, they did a normal viral panel and flu test all negative, doctor said they wouldnt test them for covid because they werent high risk..

This was back when testing was hard to come by, now i see signs every where for free testing just walk in at all the urgent cares..
i am also in north jersey  
nygiants16 : 8/1/2020 8:31 pm : link
in morris county..

Fever lasted 4 or 5 days
There are shortages of test materials  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/1/2020 8:48 pm : link
And backlogs in processing test kits. So they are triaging who gets tested.
Not sure about Jersey  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 9:13 pm : link
but tonsillitis is running rampant in my town in MA among the kids.

my 17-year old daughter had it and they finally had to give her a steroid to decrease the inflammation.

along with a very strong antibiotic.

No clue if it's COVID related or not they did not test her for COVID. Strep and mono multiple times, but not COVID.

My heart broke for her and I felt powerless, she was in such pain, and your throat gets inflamed and it sounds ridiculously painful to swallow food, drink, and even saliva. She is very skinny to begin with but lost like 12 pounds in just a few days. Finally we broke down and brought her to the ER and they put her on an IV - and that's when they finally gave her the steroid. Two visits to urgent care and they never even suggested it - almost instant relief.

hopefully your son is getting better, the only silver lining about not testing him for COVID is I heard only the nasal (?) test is approved for kids (not sure if that's still true) and what would you do differently? quarantine? they say to quarantine based on symptoms anyway. I would want to know probably like you do, but just act like he has it and you will be erring on the side of caution.
Is that the way it is in NY ?  
Ron from Ninerland : 8/1/2020 9:48 pm : link
About two weeks ago I woke up with a runny nose and a sore throat. Ordinarily would have written it off to summer allergies but given the situation I spoke to my Doctor and she authorized a test. I even told her that I didn't have a fever, but she said fever isn't always a symptom. I only had to wait 20 minutes for the test and 72 hours to get the result ( negative ). I could have gotten tested by the county unconditionally but it would have been a long wait for results. I'm shocked that the OP is getting a runaround like he described.
Covid does not affect kids very much  
Vanzetti : 8/1/2020 10:32 pm : link
That’s why they don’t test them unless symptoms are extreme.

You have to test higher risk people first

Plus there is no treatment. So you should just assume your son has it and quarantine him for a week
Go to an urgent care  
kennyd : 8/1/2020 10:41 pm : link
My daughter got tested thurday. Results (negative thankfully) were given to us before we left. Took 15 minutes to get them. The said if she tested positively they would have us quarantine and confirm the results in 48 hours. Apparently there are more false positive results so the need to confirm them but negative results are very accurate
There is NO scarcity of rationing of tests  
NJBlueTuna : 8/1/2020 10:54 pm : link
If you have symptoms or have potentially been exposed to someone who has COVID you get a test in NJ. 100% sure of that. Both my kids were just tested.

Find a new dr
I know of 4 kids in our youth wrestling community who tested positive  
BlueHurricane : 8/1/2020 11:00 pm : link
After having mild symptoms. They were fine in less than 24 hours and transmitted the virus to none of their adult family members.
RE: I know of 4 kids in our youth wrestling community who tested positive  
joeinpa : 8/2/2020 9:40 am : link
In comment 14942307 BlueHurricane said:
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After having mild symptoms. They were fine in less than 24 hours and transmitted the virus to none of their adult family members.


The evidence on how easily children transmit the virus is scarce. But some studies have indicated adults spread the virus to children much more than the other way around
RE: Also.....  
jhibb : 8/3/2020 10:23 am : link
In comment 14942249 NJBlueTuna said:
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To test for strep makes no sense as strep in kids always results in high fever.


I know this was just an aside anyway, but I don't think it's true. It certainly wasn't for my two kids when they were younger. I even remember a couple of times when my daughter had it with other symptoms but without the sore throat.
I wouldn't go back to that doctor  
UConn4523 : 8/3/2020 10:38 am : link
pretty shitty of them to turn down the test. If anything the tests should be encouraged to get data in your area. They should have tested you along with your child, IMO.
RE: RE: I know of 4 kids in our youth wrestling community who tested positive  
Bill L : 8/3/2020 11:09 am : link
In comment 14942351 joeinpa said:
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After having mild symptoms. They were fine in less than 24 hours and transmitted the virus to none of their adult family members.



The evidence on how easily children transmit the virus is scarce. But some studies have indicated adults spread the virus to children much more than the other way around


The one peer-reviewed study I saw that looked at index cases within households concluded that children 10 and under transmitted less (but were capable of transmitting) than adults but that from age 11 upwards, the transmission ability was the same as adults.
Bill  
kicker : 8/3/2020 11:22 am : link
New from JAMA Open.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952
When my son was on his college campus  
cjac : 8/3/2020 11:52 am : link
back in March he had symptoms (but no fever) and they didnt test him.

That was in the very beginning though and tests weren't readily available.

NOW, anyone should be able to get a test if they have symptoms. Dont they want the data?
RE: Bill  
Eric on Li : 8/3/2020 12:02 pm : link
In comment 14942970 kicker said:
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New from JAMA Open.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952


Am I reading right that cuts against the conventional wisdom Bill mentioned?
RE: RE: Bill  
kicker : 8/3/2020 1:05 pm : link
In comment 14943004 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 14942970 kicker said:


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New from JAMA Open.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952



Am I reading right that cuts against the conventional wisdom Bill mentioned?


From what I glean, they have a higher RNA load (doesn’t mean infectious), but there is a correlation between that and infect ability.

So maybe?
RE: RE: RE: Bill  
Eric on Li : 8/3/2020 2:51 pm : link
In comment 14943062 kicker said:
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In comment 14943004 Eric on Li said:


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In comment 14942970 kicker said:


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New from JAMA Open.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952



Am I reading right that cuts against the conventional wisdom Bill mentioned?



From what I glean, they have a higher RNA load (doesn’t mean infectious), but there is a correlation between that and infect ability.

So maybe?


Crazy how much is still murky but I guess also not so crazy either. How's everything going in your part of CA? Not much is different here despite the rising numbers but I suppose that's a very anecdotal and localized observation.
Yeah. This virus throws curveballs, and now the curve  
kicker : 8/3/2020 3:04 pm : link
that there are T cell reactions in some non-infected (which could be bad or good).

Things are getting pretty bad right now. Daily infection rates of about 0.1 to 0.2 percent of the population, with erratic mask wearing. Couple of high risk businesses openly flaunting not following Newsome’s orders, which is greatttt.

IIRC, you had a preschool age kid (like me). How are they coping?
Just dropping in for a PSA  
Tim in Capital City : 8/3/2020 3:42 pm : link
PM Pediatrics (a chain of urgent care pediatrics clinics) will test anyone without a referral...or at least the Maryland locations. They’ve tested me once and my kids twice. They have locations up and down the east coast including in New Jersey and New York.

As an aside, my wife is a pediatrician, and speaks very highly of the doctors that work at PM, and sends many patients there instead of hospitals for procedures such as a kid needing stitches.

I’m dropping the PM Pediatrics url below...Stay safe everyone.
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RE: Bill  
Bill L : 8/3/2020 4:19 pm : link
In comment 14942970 kicker said:
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New from JAMA Open.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952


Thanks! That's pretty weird. The paper I was thinking of did infection tracking; I wonder if there are sampling differences (meaning where they swabbed/collected respiratory samples, not population sampling)? Maybe there's more upper in one group and lower in another? Otherwise, I'm not sure how this fits with the idea of younger kids not being as able to transmit.
RE: Yeah. This virus throws curveballs, and now the curve  
Eric on Li : 8/3/2020 5:16 pm : link
In comment 14943189 kicker said:
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that there are T cell reactions in some non-infected (which could be bad or good).

Things are getting pretty bad right now. Daily infection rates of about 0.1 to 0.2 percent of the population, with erratic mask wearing. Couple of high risk businesses openly flaunting not following Newsome’s orders, which is greatttt.

IIRC, you had a preschool age kid (like me). How are they coping?


Honestly as good as could be expected. Her preschool did a modified camp and that was great. It ended a couple weeks ago so it looks like they got through it without any known cases too. We learned the hard lessons March-June and have tried to stack her day with as many activities as possible since. Her dance class did a daily zoom class for a few hours in the AM. A lot of swimming. But definitely still get some moody days too.

We did a socially distant outdoor playdate a few days ago and we try to do 1 a week as something she can look forward to and the parents were telling us that in Venice people are acting like there's no pandemic going on. So I suspect there are pockets that are going (or are already) where it's flying around but in our direct area it seems to not be the case as much even though we are pretty much in the middle of the city. We live near cedars so a lot of our neighborhood is people who work there so there's a lot of mask wearing.
RE: RE: Bill  
Eric on Li : 8/3/2020 5:18 pm : link
In comment 14943235 Bill L said:
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New from JAMA Open.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952



Thanks! That's pretty weird. The paper I was thinking of did infection tracking; I wonder if there are sampling differences (meaning where they swabbed/collected respiratory samples, not population sampling)? Maybe there's more upper in one group and lower in another? Otherwise, I'm not sure how this fits with the idea of younger kids not being as able to transmit.


I thought the conventional wisdom at this point was along the lines of your original post - that kids under 10 can transmit but are less likely to do so and kids over 10 are essentially the same likelihood as adults.
My son (19) and his girlfriend both got tested...  
x meadowlander : 8/4/2020 11:13 am : link
...prior to spending 2 weeks together last month. They had it done at a local drive thru (Binghamton University), took 2 days to get the results. He works at a hospital, so we wanted to make sure he wasn't bringing any surprises with him.

Living in a lightly populated upstate region has never been more beneficial.
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