My 10 year old son woke up with a sore throat and low grade fever today (100.2). Immediately my wife freaked and called his doctor. She got an appointment for early afternoon but when they went the doc said they aren’t testing kids for Covid unless they display “extreme” symptoms. Instead they did a strep test that came back negative. Doc also said my son should quarantine for the next week. Luckily about an hour ago his fever broke and he seems to be on the mends.
I found it odd however that they wouldn’t test for Covid considering we are still in the midst of the pandemic. Has anyone had a sick child that was tested? Or did your doctor say the same as my son’s?
I live in northern jersey. Half hour ride to the city.
I woke up in the middle of the night a couple of weeks ago with a flaming hot fever, and was dizzy and nauseous. I also started having diarrhea, which lasted about 6 days. I almost missed work that first day, but I popped some ibuprofen and soldiered through. I wonder if that was the China Flu, or just a bad Burger King Whopper?
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I live in northern jersey. Half hour ride to the city.
I live in southern Westchester. I barely had any symptoms, but wanted the test because I see my mother often and she's 70 years-old. I filled out the form on the Westchester Board of Health website (Thursday), got a call AND the test appointment the next day (on a Friday) at a drive-thru site, and got the results on Monday. I can't complain at all about the process.
Sorry you have to wait for something worse to happen to your kid. It's ridiculous. Did you try your local health department as opposed to your doctor?
Glad he is feeling better.
I am glad your kid is feeling better
Btw the protocol is to quarantine for 2 weeks. Find a new dr
This was back when testing was hard to come by, now i see signs every where for free testing just walk in at all the urgent cares..
Fever lasted 4 or 5 days
my 17-year old daughter had it and they finally had to give her a steroid to decrease the inflammation.
along with a very strong antibiotic.
No clue if it's COVID related or not they did not test her for COVID. Strep and mono multiple times, but not COVID.
My heart broke for her and I felt powerless, she was in such pain, and your throat gets inflamed and it sounds ridiculously painful to swallow food, drink, and even saliva. She is very skinny to begin with but lost like 12 pounds in just a few days. Finally we broke down and brought her to the ER and they put her on an IV - and that's when they finally gave her the steroid. Two visits to urgent care and they never even suggested it - almost instant relief.
hopefully your son is getting better, the only silver lining about not testing him for COVID is I heard only the nasal (?) test is approved for kids (not sure if that's still true) and what would you do differently? quarantine? they say to quarantine based on symptoms anyway. I would want to know probably like you do, but just act like he has it and you will be erring on the side of caution.
You have to test higher risk people first
Plus there is no treatment. So you should just assume your son has it and quarantine him for a week
Find a new dr
The evidence on how easily children transmit the virus is scarce. But some studies have indicated adults spread the virus to children much more than the other way around
I know this was just an aside anyway, but I don't think it's true. It certainly wasn't for my two kids when they were younger. I even remember a couple of times when my daughter had it with other symptoms but without the sore throat.
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After having mild symptoms. They were fine in less than 24 hours and transmitted the virus to none of their adult family members.
The evidence on how easily children transmit the virus is scarce. But some studies have indicated adults spread the virus to children much more than the other way around
The one peer-reviewed study I saw that looked at index cases within households concluded that children 10 and under transmitted less (but were capable of transmitting) than adults but that from age 11 upwards, the transmission ability was the same as adults.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952
That was in the very beginning though and tests weren't readily available.
NOW, anyone should be able to get a test if they have symptoms. Dont they want the data?
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952
Am I reading right that cuts against the conventional wisdom Bill mentioned?
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New from JAMA Open.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952
Am I reading right that cuts against the conventional wisdom Bill mentioned?
From what I glean, they have a higher RNA load (doesn’t mean infectious), but there is a correlation between that and infect ability.
So maybe?
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New from JAMA Open.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952
Am I reading right that cuts against the conventional wisdom Bill mentioned?
From what I glean, they have a higher RNA load (doesn’t mean infectious), but there is a correlation between that and infect ability.
So maybe?
Crazy how much is still murky but I guess also not so crazy either. How's everything going in your part of CA? Not much is different here despite the rising numbers but I suppose that's a very anecdotal and localized observation.
Things are getting pretty bad right now. Daily infection rates of about 0.1 to 0.2 percent of the population, with erratic mask wearing. Couple of high risk businesses openly flaunting not following Newsome’s orders, which is greatttt.
IIRC, you had a preschool age kid (like me). How are they coping?
As an aside, my wife is a pediatrician, and speaks very highly of the doctors that work at PM, and sends many patients there instead of hospitals for procedures such as a kid needing stitches.
I’m dropping the PM Pediatrics url below...Stay safe everyone.
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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952
Thanks! That's pretty weird. The paper I was thinking of did infection tracking; I wonder if there are sampling differences (meaning where they swabbed/collected respiratory samples, not population sampling)? Maybe there's more upper in one group and lower in another? Otherwise, I'm not sure how this fits with the idea of younger kids not being as able to transmit.
Things are getting pretty bad right now. Daily infection rates of about 0.1 to 0.2 percent of the population, with erratic mask wearing. Couple of high risk businesses openly flaunting not following Newsome’s orders, which is greatttt.
IIRC, you had a preschool age kid (like me). How are they coping?
Honestly as good as could be expected. Her preschool did a modified camp and that was great. It ended a couple weeks ago so it looks like they got through it without any known cases too. We learned the hard lessons March-June and have tried to stack her day with as many activities as possible since. Her dance class did a daily zoom class for a few hours in the AM. A lot of swimming. But definitely still get some moody days too.
We did a socially distant outdoor playdate a few days ago and we try to do 1 a week as something she can look forward to and the parents were telling us that in Venice people are acting like there's no pandemic going on. So I suspect there are pockets that are going (or are already) where it's flying around but in our direct area it seems to not be the case as much even though we are pretty much in the middle of the city. We live near cedars so a lot of our neighborhood is people who work there so there's a lot of mask wearing.
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New from JAMA Open.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952
Thanks! That's pretty weird. The paper I was thinking of did infection tracking; I wonder if there are sampling differences (meaning where they swabbed/collected respiratory samples, not population sampling)? Maybe there's more upper in one group and lower in another? Otherwise, I'm not sure how this fits with the idea of younger kids not being as able to transmit.
I thought the conventional wisdom at this point was along the lines of your original post - that kids under 10 can transmit but are less likely to do so and kids over 10 are essentially the same likelihood as adults.
Living in a lightly populated upstate region has never been more beneficial.