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pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 9:31 pm
day 1 halfway done. Figured I''d start a thread for not just the Rangers games.

Rangers and Canes were rusty on specials (though CAR looked much better), 1 for 14 combined on the PP. Good intensity though, hard hitting game. I thought Hank was great.

I didn't see any of NYI vs FLA, but the score is about what I'd expect from a Trotz team.

PIT came out like a house on fire, Price stood tall and MTL's two youngsters, Kotkaniemi and Suzuki have the Habs with a 2 - 0 lead. momentum is starting to shift to MTL, but PIT can score quickly. MTL defense is a massive Achilles heel.

Crosby  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 9:32 pm : link
just banked one off Price.

Xavier Oulllet (an AHL defenseman) standing next to Crosby.
Pens  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 9:40 pm : link
PP goal erases the lead.

Pens dominating now.
Islanders dont score enough to win it all  
theold5j : 8/1/2020 9:47 pm : link
But they're healthy and fresh and play a style of game that drives teams nuts. They'll be a tough out.
RE: Islanders dont score enough to win it all  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 10:12 pm : link
In comment 14942275 theold5j said:
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But they're healthy and fresh and play a style of game that drives teams nuts. They'll be a tough out.


only need to score more than you allow (captain obvious? lol)
90 seconds  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 10:13 pm : link
of 5 on 3 for the Pens.

this probably won't end well for the habs.
RE: Islanders dont score enough to win it all  
Mike in NY : 8/1/2020 10:14 pm : link
In comment 14942275 theold5j said:
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But they're healthy and fresh and play a style of game that drives teams nuts. They'll be a tough out.


D really took a hit without Pelech during the regular season. That being said, you can’t bank on winning every game 2-1. Would have loved to have landed Panarin last off-season.
Habs  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 10:16 pm : link
kill it off and to a PP of their own
RE: Habs  
Route 9 : 8/1/2020 10:18 pm : link
In comment 14942285 pjcas18 said:
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kill it off and to a PP of their own


Nice triangle 🔺
Penguins back on the PP  
Route 9 : 8/1/2020 10:19 pm : link
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Domi is playing?  
Route 9 : 8/1/2020 10:21 pm : link
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RE: Domi is playing?  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14942291 Route 9 said:
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yeah, re-joined the team last week
Penalty shot  
Route 9 : 8/1/2020 10:41 pm : link
Not even close
......  
Route 9 : 8/1/2020 10:42 pm : link
Holy fuck. All game no one can hit the net.
......  
Route 9 : 8/1/2020 10:46 pm : link
Line changes are so slow. You can see it's been four months. Penguins have been awful in their own zone.
We've got  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 10:46 pm : link
playoff OT hockey.

in August.

Malkin  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 10:48 pm : link
looks like he wants the season to be over.

non-factor the whole game, but OT is his time.

MTL does not have the skill players for OT.
I forgot to mention  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 10:55 pm : link
CHI vs EDM in the OP.

Calder candidate Dominik Kubalik puts up 5 points in his playoff debut, and the b-hawks beat the Oilers 6 - 4.
That is a soft  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 11:10 pm : link
penalty call anytime of the game, but in OT it's very soft.
OT  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 11:13 pm : link
penalty shot
......  
Route 9 : 8/1/2020 11:13 pm : link
Those have to be the two worst penalty shots I have ever seen
I always thought  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 11:13 pm : link
if you got a shot off they didn't give the penalty shot.

Drouin also misses the net (actually lost the puck).
RE: I always thought  
fireitup77 : 8/1/2020 11:19 pm : link
In comment 14942312 pjcas18 said:
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if you got a shot off they didn't give the penalty shot.

Drouin also misses the net (actually lost the puck).


I don't know the rule today. I used to ref 20 years ago. But back then if the ref thought a scoring chance was taken away he had the descretion to call the PS.
Marchand  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 11:21 pm : link
has the worst penalty shot of all time. can't find a GIF of it, but it's awesome.

Wasn't a penalty shot but remember in the shootout  
Route 9 : 8/1/2020 11:25 pm : link
Ilya Kovalchuk's dud about 10 years ago?
Petry  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 11:26 pm : link
for the GW
RE: Wasn't a penalty shot but remember in the shootout  
pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 11:26 pm : link
In comment 14942315 Route 9 said:
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Ilya Kovalchuk's dud about 10 years ago?


yeah, good point, Marchand was actually in a shootout, not a penalty shot.
Good night, Pens.  
Route 9 : 8/1/2020 11:27 pm : link
Good shot through the screen there.
I fucking hate the Penguins  
Anakim : 8/1/2020 11:40 pm : link
But I kind of want them to win this series because I feel like they're destined to win the Lafreniere sweepstakes if they don't. That organization has a horseshoe up its ass.
Anyone catch that fight in the first period of the WPG/CGY  
Route 9 : 8/1/2020 11:47 pm : link
game?
RE: Anyone catch that fight in the first period of the WPG/CGY  
trueblueinpw : 8/1/2020 11:56 pm : link
In comment 14942321 Route 9 said:
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game?


Just tuning in now. Gotta’ say, it’s nice to see the NBA and the NHL.
RE: Anyone catch that fight in the first period of the WPG/CGY  
pjcas18 : 8/2/2020 12:08 am : link
In comment 14942321 Route 9 said:
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game?


only during breaks in play in MTL vs PIT game. Biggest news was scheifele being knocked out with what looked like just an unfortunate awkward knee injury.

headlines/tweets blame Tkachuck, who is a massive agitator, but I don't think he did anything wrong at all, I don't think he even made contact.

Johnny hockey had a nice goal to tie it and then CGY scored again (both CGY goals in the 2nd)
LOL  
pjcas18 : 8/2/2020 12:18 am : link
Keith Tkachuk on son Matthew: "he has a face you just want to punch"

RE: I always thought  
ColHowPepper : 8/2/2020 1:12 pm : link
In comment 14942312 pjcas18 said:
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if you got a shot off they didn't give the penalty shot.
I think the analysis has to be that if the penalty (that triggers the PS call) has a significant enough impact on the quality of the shot that is taken by the player, you call the PS. If the penalty is committed but the player recovers enough (in continuation of play) to get off a legit, unencumbered shot, you don't. imoo
....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/2/2020 1:29 pm : link
I thought the games were pretty high quality. Happy hockey is back.

Maurice said the Tkachuk hit was intentional - I didn't think it was at all.

PIT outplayed MTL by far.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/2/2020 1:31 pm : link
I also think people (elsewhere - HF/reddit/Twitter) are whining too much about the 17-24 teams and how the Cup is cheapened.

1. It's unlikely any of them win the Cup.
2. Going through the four rounds of playoffs is brutal and I think you're a worthy winner if you get through them.

We'll probably see some weird results, but that's how it's always been. I don't think you'll see MTL or CHI win the Cup (sorry pj).
Coyotes goal  
Route 9 : 8/2/2020 2:27 pm : link
Double doink?
Insane  
Anakim : 8/2/2020 9:02 pm : link
Looks like the Avalanche just scored the GWG with .1 left on the board
RE: Insane  
Route 9 : 8/2/2020 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14942694 Anakim said:
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Looks like the Avalanche just scored the GWG with .1 left on the board


Where was the net camera shot? Don't they have one directly above the line?
RE: RE: Insane  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 8:11 am : link
In comment 14942770 Route 9 said:
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In comment 14942694 Anakim said:


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Looks like the Avalanche just scored the GWG with .1 left on the board



Where was the net camera shot? Don't they have one directly above the line?


yeah, it was legit, insane, but legit.

If the Bruins  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 8:15 am : link
lose the #1 seed it could be a disaster for them.

I think last year they were the best team, but they sort of lucked out when TBL and WAS were beaten in the 1st round.

Not that CAR or CBJ weren't formidable, but neither would have pressed the Bruins as much as TBL or WAS potentially could have. CBJ did take the B's to 6, but CAR was swept. and then CAR swept the NYI and I think the NYI were probably the 3rd team who would have given the B's the toughest matchup.

With re-seeding now after each round, there won't be any bracket breaks.

todays games  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 8:25 am : link
NYR vs CAR game 2 at noon on NBCSN (CAR leads 1 - 0)
WPG vs CAL game 2 (great game 1) at 2:30pm on NHLN (CAL leads 1 - 0)
WAS vs TBL (round robin game) at 4pm on NBCSN
DAL vs VEG (round robin game) at 6:30pm on NHLN
MTL vs PIT game 2 at 8pm on NBCSN (MTL leads 1 - 0)
CHI vs EDM game 2 at 10:30 on NHLN (CHI leads 1 - 0)
LGR!  
Dave : 8/3/2020 8:53 am : link
anybody know wtf happened to Igor on Saturday?

I wonder if the late switch left the team flat...
Moneypuck  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:03 am : link
odds updated after game 1 in every series and some round robin games. They really hate the Penguins. If Malkin is as lazy tonight as game 1 and Price plays the same the Habs have a chance. If that changes no idea what they're thinking.

Still LVG and PHI as the favorites.

RE: If the Bruins  
BillKo : 8/3/2020 10:09 am : link
In comment 14942850 pjcas18 said:
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lose the #1 seed it could be a disaster for them.

I think last year they were the best team, but they sort of lucked out when TBL and WAS were beaten in the 1st round.

Not that CAR or CBJ weren't formidable, but neither would have pressed the Bruins as much as TBL or WAS potentially could have. CBJ did take the B's to 6, but CAR was swept. and then CAR swept the NYI and I think the NYI were probably the 3rd team who would have given the B's the toughest matchup.

With re-seeding now after each round, there won't be any bracket breaks.


It's more than obvious the Bruins are behind the curve and not quite there in terms of conditioning and chemistry.....it's going to happen to certain teams.

They are a good team but given how they have returned, they have horrible matchup issues with both WASH and TB. In fact, they have only beaten WASH once in like the last 18 meetings or something ridiculous.

Philly was probably the one team they had good odds to beat.

Their best strategy now - besides of course winning - would be to get the team whipped back into shape during round robin and take it from there....fourth seed probably is a real possibility.

They can beat any of the qualifying teams and their toughest matchups (TB, WASH, PHIL) are all in the next round anyway and games are at neutral sites......besides last change, home ice (fans, travel, etc) is out the window.
Rangers  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 3:09 pm : link
outclassed by Hurricanes, 4 - 1 to take a commanding 2 - 0 lead.

Jets vs Flames are on now.

Jets missing Schiefele and Patrick Laine. Tall order for them overcome.

but they are leading 1 - 0, down in the series 1 - 0.
Calgary ties it up  
JayBinQueens : 8/3/2020 4:08 pm : link
2-2 towards the end of the 2nd
Jets  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 5:08 pm : link
pull it out on a tipped shot, and hold off a late 6 on 4 (6 on 3 for a few second) at the end.

even up the series at 1.
WAS  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 6:20 pm : link
vs TBL entertaining game.

.  
Kyle in NY : 8/3/2020 6:30 pm : link
Really impressed with the quality of the games. I thought there might be a feeling out period, or a lack of intensity. Hasn't been the case at all and the lack of fans hasn't affected the atmosphere much at all outside of the obvious goal with goal celebrations. Feels like playoff hockey.

I think the arenas look great too. Love the video boards and the tarps were a good idea

Full marks to the NHL
RE: .  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 6:32 pm : link
In comment 14943336 Kyle in NY said:
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Really impressed with the quality of the games. I thought there might be a feeling out period, or a lack of intensity. Hasn't been the case at all and the lack of fans hasn't affected the atmosphere much at all outside of the obvious goal with goal celebrations. Feels like playoff hockey.

I think the arenas look great too. Love the video boards and the tarps were a good idea

Full marks to the NHL


yeah, I agree, solid job by the NHL.

OT  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 6:37 pm : link
for WAS vs TBL.

These teams hate each other. I guess any team with Tom Wilson gets hated on by every other team though.

regular season OT for the round robin games, unlike the play-in games (like MTL vs PIT) which have playoff OT.
TBL vs WAS  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 6:46 pm : link
going to a shootout.

Vegas beating DAL 1 - 0 in a West conference round robin game.
TBL  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 6:51 pm : link
with the shootout win
Washington/ Tampa Bay  
Route 9 : 8/3/2020 6:52 pm : link
was a solid game. Majority of these games have been a good watch. Feels like NHL Playoff hockey, except for the Rangers two turd performances. I do not get why anybody would be excited for the future regarding this team. They're pathetic...


Like most New York sports.
Habs  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 8:28 pm : link
D breakdown, Crosby beats Price five hole.

Pens 1 - 0. Habs had been taking the play to the Pens the first part of the period.
Malkin  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 8:35 pm : link
so much more active already 8 min in to game 2 than all of game 1.
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 8:43 pm : link
likely have the worst PP in the league.

Drouin turned it over twice on the PP, both bad, once in his own zone.

their zone entry is a dump in.
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 8:49 pm : link
2nd too many men on the ice penalty this period.
Vegas  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 8:50 pm : link
with two goals in 90 seconds to tie up the Stars at 3 in the 3rd.
Vegas came all the way  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 9:15 pm : link
back. From down 3 - 1 almost halfway through the 3rd, they won 5 - 3.
Carey Price  
Route 9 : 8/3/2020 9:38 pm : link
how in the world did that not go in?
RE: Washington/ Tampa Bay  
MetsAreBack : 8/3/2020 9:43 pm : link
In comment 14943346 Route 9 said:
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was a solid game. Majority of these games have been a good watch. Feels like NHL Playoff hockey, except for the Rangers two turd performances. I do not get why anybody would be excited for the future regarding this team. They're pathetic...


Like most New York sports.


12% shot at #1 pick? Cut them some slack ... Carolina is a good team, the goalie has been ‘unfit to play’ And they’d been playing good hockey up until the shutdown. It’s disappointing but shit happens. Hopefully Carolina loses next round so we get two decent draft picks
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 9:47 pm : link
5th penalty of the game.

5 on 3 now for half a min
Sorry  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 9:48 pm : link
MTL 7th penalty of the game.
Price has been ridiculous  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:02 pm : link
through 5 periods.

MTL has had almost no scoring chances.
15 seconds  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:18 pm : link
into the 3rd MTL best scoring chance, Matt Murray robbed Tatar.
RE: .  
BrettNYG10 : 8/3/2020 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14943336 Kyle in NY said:
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Really impressed with the quality of the games. I thought there might be a feeling out period, or a lack of intensity. Hasn't been the case at all and the lack of fans hasn't affected the atmosphere much at all outside of the obvious goal with goal celebrations. Feels like playoff hockey.

I think the arenas look great too. Love the video boards and the tarps were a good idea

Full marks to the NHL


I'm shocked it looks like they'll pull it off - announced zero positive tests this week. I thought it was unlikely they would pull it off, they deserve a ton of credit.
Nice goal...  
trueblueinpw : 8/3/2020 10:41 pm : link
Habs were buzzing but just could not convert.
awful  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:41 pm : link
pinch by Kulak (who has had a good game) and pens convert the resulting 2 on 1, take a likely insurmountable 2 - 1 lead with 5 min left.
Sorry  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:42 pm : link
2 - 0 lead
Now 2 - 1  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:45 pm : link
Kotkaniemi bangs home a rebound
MTL  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:47 pm : link
takes their TO, net is empty, just over 1 min left.
RE: RE: .  
MetsAreBack : 8/3/2020 10:48 pm : link
In comment 14943481 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 14943336 Kyle in NY said:


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Really impressed with the quality of the games. I thought there might be a feeling out period, or a lack of intensity. Hasn't been the case at all and the lack of fans hasn't affected the atmosphere much at all outside of the obvious goal with goal celebrations. Feels like playoff hockey.

I think the arenas look great too. Love the video boards and the tarps were a good idea

Full marks to the NHL



I'm shocked it looks like they'll pull it off - announced zero positive tests this week. I thought it was unlikely they would pull it off, they deserve a ton of credit.


It’s still early. Cautiously optimistic but this isn’t a bubble right?
It helps 8 teams are leaving this week. But there is still risk if one of these cities starts to see a rise in cases
Pens  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:50 pm : link
ice it with the ENG.

Even the series at 1. game 3 Wednesday night.
Would have been funny if Habs scored on the Letang icing  
trueblueinpw : 8/3/2020 10:51 pm : link
Pens are just too much for this Montreal team.
RE: RE: RE: .  
BrettNYG10 : 8/3/2020 10:55 pm : link
In comment 14943492 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 14943481 BrettNYG10 said:


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In comment 14943336 Kyle in NY said:


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Really impressed with the quality of the games. I thought there might be a feeling out period, or a lack of intensity. Hasn't been the case at all and the lack of fans hasn't affected the atmosphere much at all outside of the obvious goal with goal celebrations. Feels like playoff hockey.

I think the arenas look great too. Love the video boards and the tarps were a good idea

Full marks to the NHL



I'm shocked it looks like they'll pull it off - announced zero positive tests this week. I thought it was unlikely they would pull it off, they deserve a ton of credit.



It’s still early. Cautiously optimistic but this isn’t a bubble right?
It helps 8 teams are leaving this week. But there is still risk if one of these cities starts to see a rise in cases


Yeah, and I get a little worried there might be some complacency and people get lax.

I don't know how the "bubble" apparently works.
MAB, Have you seen the areas around the bubbles?  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:58 pm : link
it's actually a pretty cool set up. I'm not even sure a local flare up would get in, possible I guess - they're all humans, but I think the controls are solid. And being away from your family sucks for the players but Toronto looks cool.



RE: RE: RE: .  
trueblueinpw : 8/3/2020 10:59 pm : link
In comment 14943492 MetsAreBack said:
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It’s still early. Cautiously optimistic but this isn’t a bubble right?
It helps 8 teams are leaving this week. But there is still risk if one of these cities starts to see a rise in cases


There’s two bubbles, Toronto and Edmonton.
I listened to an interview  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 11:00 pm : link
with some Bruins players (Joakim Nordstrom and one other) and he said it's not bad, and actually pretty fun. Said he was walking out to the soccer stadium to kick the ball around with some teammates and then they were going to go out to dinner and play video games.

seems like a long road trip.
RE: I listened to an interview  
trueblueinpw : 8/3/2020 11:21 pm : link
In comment 14943500 pjcas18 said:
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with some Bruins players (Joakim Nordstrom and one other) and he said it's not bad, and actually pretty fun. Said he was walking out to the soccer stadium to kick the ball around with some teammates and then they were going to go out to dinner and play video games.

seems like a long road trip.


My wife just asked if they were lonely or something. I just laughed. I’m sure they miss going out and all that but they’re playing for the Cup. Hockey’s just different from other sports. Always has been, always will be.
RE: MAB, Have you seen the areas around the bubbles?  
MetsAreBack : 8/4/2020 12:05 am : link
In comment 14943498 pjcas18 said:
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it's actually a pretty cool set up. I'm not even sure a local flare up would get in, possible I guess - they're all humans, but I think the controls are solid. And being away from your family sucks for the players but Toronto looks cool.




Thanks - I should read up. Is it like the nba when if they leave the ‘bubble’ for any reason they have to quarantine for days and security inside the bubble is off the charts? It certainly helps toronto and edlmonton at this point don’t have general population virus out there like so many American cities but seems like there’s a little more freedom for players to be well ... 25 year old kids... then what the nba has set up.

I could be wrong, like I said I haven’t researched. They’ve certainly been smarter than mlb which has scheduled road trips with multiple days off on those trips for teams. Cards had two days off in Minneapolis last week
And Florida had a lot of time off during preseason games in Atlanta and people are shocked guys got bored? It’s like no one consulted common sense.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/4/2020 12:08 am : link
I don't see how baseball or football pull it off.

Hockey/basketball, you can have guys buckle down for two months to finish the season.

Side note, Connor McDavid is pretty good. Reminds me of watching myself.
I'm a Ranger fan. Isn't that the thing to do?  
Route 9 : 8/4/2020 12:19 am : link
Cut them some slack, give it two years, they're young, new coach, new system... etc.

Then they always suck ass in the playoffs. Oh, wow. They went on one run and lost to the Kings.

I mean don't ya think they looked lost and slow and didn't look as if they belonged on the same ice as the Hurricanes? It's not as if that was the 2000s Devils defense out there. Skjei never played this hard as a Ranger.

Hey at least the young kids got some "playoff experience".

These other games and teams look fun to watch: Penguins, Blackhawks, Oilers, Golden Knights, Caps, Lighting.

Do the Rangers answer the bell and belong with the above? Nope.
RE: ....  
Route 9 : 8/4/2020 12:19 am : link
In comment 14943512 BrettNYG10 said:
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I don't see how baseball or football pull it off.

Hockey/basketball, you can have guys buckle down for two months to finish the season.

Side note, Connor McDavid is pretty good. Reminds me of watching myself.


Football will be an 8 or 9 game season. Me thinks.
RE: RE: MAB, Have you seen the areas around the bubbles?  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 8:00 am : link
In comment 14943511 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 14943498 pjcas18 said:


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it's actually a pretty cool set up. I'm not even sure a local flare up would get in, possible I guess - they're all humans, but I think the controls are solid. And being away from your family sucks for the players but Toronto looks cool.






Thanks - I should read up. Is it like the nba when if they leave the ‘bubble’ for any reason they have to quarantine for days and security inside the bubble is off the charts? It certainly helps toronto and edlmonton at this point don’t have general population virus out there like so many American cities but seems like there’s a little more freedom for players to be well ... 25 year old kids... then what the nba has set up.

I could be wrong, like I said I haven’t researched. They’ve certainly been smarter than mlb which has scheduled road trips with multiple days off on those trips for teams. Cards had two days off in Minneapolis last week
And Florida had a lot of time off during preseason games in Atlanta and people are shocked guys got bored? It’s like no one consulted common sense.


This link outlines it in a consumable manner.

Similar NBA rules I believe for leaving the bubble:

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Can a player leave the NHL bubble & hub cities?

Yes, but only in a limited number of cases, per NHL.com: medical reasons, extenuating circumstances (such as the birth of a child or an illness or death in the family), or a family event such as a wedding. When a player returns to the secure zone, he will be quarantined in his hotel room and then need to test negative at least four consecutive times over a four-day period.



link - ( New Window )
McDavid  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 8:27 am : link
shines, nets the hat trick, got pissed off there was somehow hats on the ice, and the Oilers evens the series at 1.

Big slate of games today:

FLA vs NYI at noon on NBCSN (NYI lead 1 - 0)
ARI vs NSH at 2:30 PM on NHLN (ARI leads 1 - 0)
CBJ vs TOR at 4:00 PM on NBCSN (CBJ leads 1 - 0)
CAL vs WIN at 6:45 PM on NHLN (series tied 1 - 1)
CAR vs NYR at 8:00 PM on NBCSN (CAR leads 2 - 0)*
MIN vs VAN at 10:45 PM on NHLN (MIN leads 1 - 0)

* Potential elimination game
I always am a little skeptical  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 10:03 am : link
with lists that say Carey Price is still "the best goalie in the NHL" but that's consistently what the players say - or they have him the discussion. Mainly I'm skeptical because statistically he hasn't been among the leaders in a while, but his defense is so bad.

but these past two games have given me some confidence that he *can* be that goalie.

As an Isles fan  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/4/2020 10:09 am : link
It's actually super encouraging to see Varlamov in the middle of that list instead of at the top. He stopped 27 of 28 shots, which one would think would catapult him into at least the top 5, but he's still sitting with a middle-of-the-pack ranking.

To me, that means the defense did a phenomenal job in game one of assuring the shots Florida managed were very low percentage opportunities, and for all their faults, Florida is a team that can score goals.

So that's pretty great to see.
well... the Rangers certainly needed better goaltending than that  
MetsAreBack : 8/4/2020 10:10 am : link
to have a chance.

But that chart also shows Mrazek has been able to take naps back in his own net too so....
RE: As an Isles fan  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 10:19 am : link
In comment 14943621 Mike in Long Beach said:
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It's actually super encouraging to see Varlamov in the middle of that list instead of at the top. He stopped 27 of 28 shots, which one would think would catapult him into at least the top 5, but he's still sitting with a middle-of-the-pack ranking.

To me, that means the defense did a phenomenal job in game one of assuring the shots Florida managed were very low percentage opportunities, and for all their faults, Florida is a team that can score goals.

So that's pretty great to see.


Exactly, a Trotz team hallmark, they don't take a lot of shots, and they try and limit high danger opposition chances (as opposed to shots). It's so smart, a bad shot at the NHL level is almost a turnover or in some cases it is in fact a turnover.

which is why xGa is more meaningful measure than save %.

I'm not a huge analytics guy, but I do strongly believe all shots are not equal and relying on pure shot data isn't very meaningful.



Great game right now  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 2:11 pm : link
in Toronto.

NYI leading FLA 3 - 2 with 17 min left in the third. Good pace, good skill, and mostly good goal tending.

No idea  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 2:25 pm : link
how Barzal is still alive after going head first at full speed into the boards.

Beauvilier scores on the PP to put the NYI up 2 with under 10 left.
Actually looked  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 2:28 pm : link
like it hit Eberle and then went it on the PP goal.
Healthy Isles  
KDubbs : 8/4/2020 2:30 pm : link
With Pageau added is a tough out. This matheson guy on florida is a dirtbag
No idea  
JayBinQueens : 8/4/2020 2:38 pm : link
how Barzal wasn't made to go back into the locker room to be checked out.

Bob has been keeping Fla in the series but they're hanging him out to dry.

Isles taking care of business in a series they should have
RE: Healthy Isles  
JayBinQueens : 8/4/2020 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14943812 KDubbs said:
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With Pageau added is a tough out. This matheson guy on florida is a dirtbag

Check out Matheson's contract LOL
Softy  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 2:59 pm : link
given up by Kuemper, NSH up 2 - 0, halfway through the 1st - - the first goal wasn't that stellar either. ARI leads the series 1 - 0
Matheson is a gift  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/4/2020 3:01 pm : link
When he's not getting beat, he's taking penalties.

Good win. Rebounded from an awful first. They finally adjusted and stopped trying to force the carry in.

Hot streak Eberle would be most welcome on a sniper starved team.

Super fortunate re Barzal. Game over if their one elite player goes down.
First gaem of the day, BUT  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/4/2020 3:03 pm : link
Ice near the boards was abysmal from the start. Absolute ping pong ball near the benches.

This much action daily it must be a moonscape out there.

Something to watch for all the teams. It's a factor
both  
feelflows : 8/4/2020 3:13 pm : link
Beau and Eberle are streaky..

if Beau was consistent in his production he would be an absolute monster. He is so impressive when he's "on".

NSH  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 4:30 pm : link
now up 3 - 0 after two on their way toward evening that one up at 1.

CBJ vs TOR scoreless halfway through the 1st. Korpisalo the story so far. TOR outshooting CBJ 12 - 4 so far.

RE: NSH  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/4/2020 4:59 pm : link
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now up 3 - 0 after two


His defense did him no favors, but Kuemper.... Yikes
Ari  
JayBinQueens : 8/4/2020 5:06 pm : link
scores 2 in the last minute. 35 seconds left down 2 w the goalie out
RE: Ari  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 5:13 pm : link
In comment 14943879 JayBinQueens said:
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scores 2 in the last minute. 35 seconds left down 2 w the goalie out


2 in 9 seconds, love hockey with the extra attacker, made the end interesting at least.
wow  
JayBinQueens : 8/4/2020 5:16 pm : link
So many penalties so far in the first few days.

Toronto looks snake bit not being able to put one in
RE: wow  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 5:21 pm : link
In comment 14943886 JayBinQueens said:
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So many penalties so far in the first few days.

Toronto looks snake bit not being able to put one in


Has Korpisalo allowed a goal yet? A game and a half I thought game 1 was a shutout. Right?
RE: RE: wow  
JayBinQueens : 8/4/2020 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14943889 pjcas18 said:
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So many penalties so far in the first few days.

Toronto looks snake bit not being able to put one in



Has Korpisalo allowed a goal yet? A game and a half I thought game 1 was a shutout. Right?

Correct.

Matt Martin has more goals than the entire Leafs team (at this point)
of course, i jinxed it  
JayBinQueens : 8/4/2020 5:32 pm : link
matthews finally gets one passed the 'tender on a tip in on a Hyman pass.

28-9 toronto outshooting CBJ
Tavares  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 6:10 pm : link
leaves no doubt on the breakaway. Leafs up 2 - 0 under 13 min left in the 3rd.

Leafs looking to tie up the series at 1.

Both goalies in this series have been outstanding so far.
Leafs  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 6:47 pm : link
shutout the BJ's returning the favor from game 1. Series tied at 1.
Muzzin  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 6:55 pm : link
stretchered off near the end of the Leafs game - didn't look serious at the time, but on replay looks like while he was on the ice his head connected with Bjorkstrand's knee.

Hope he's ok.
RE: Muzzin  
BrettNYG10 : 8/4/2020 8:17 pm : link
In comment 14943932 pjcas18 said:
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stretchered off near the end of the Leafs game - didn't look serious at the time, but on replay looks like while he was on the ice his head connected with Bjorkstrand's knee.

Hope he's ok.


I didn't think it looked that bad, either. But he was down for ~15 minutes. Hope he's okay, as well (obviously).
Maybe silly  
KDubbs : 8/4/2020 8:22 pm : link
But are there handshake lines or fist bump lines after series?
RE: Maybe silly  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 8:30 pm : link
In comment 14943963 KDubbs said:
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But are there handshake lines or fist bump lines after series?


not sure what the NHL will do, but youth hockey eliminated the handshakes - we had a youth tournament in new hampshire last weekend and after the game instead of shaking hands the kids lined up on their respective blue lines and just basically tapped their sticks on the ice in a show of respect toward their opponent.

I doubt the NHL keeps the handshakes, but being in the bubble and sharing hotels, restaurants and recreational spaces with their rival players probably would make handshakes harmless.

We may find out tonight if the Canes win the first elimination game.
...  
BrettNYG10 : 8/4/2020 8:33 pm : link
Maple Leafs defenceman Jake Muzzin was transported to hospital following an on-ice collision in the third period tonight. He is alert and able to move all limbs. Further updates will be provided once available.

From Maples Leafs PR Twitter account.
That's just a terrible  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 8:49 pm : link
play in the corner by Smith that almost resulted in a goal and then on the next rush he almost backed off all the way in to Shesterkin.

He is like an anchor out there.
then  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 8:51 pm : link
he catches Svechnikov with his head down and lays a big hit on him.
Flames pulling away from the Jets  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 9:01 pm : link
up 5 - 2 halfway through the 3rd.

They'd take a 2 - 1 lead in the series if they avoid a massive collapse.

the Flames could be a sneaky team if they get some momentum. skill, grit, solid D. no one likes playing a team like that.
Jets  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 9:26 pm : link
don't get reinforcements they're done. They're a loss away from elimination. No Schiefele or Laine and the Jets are pretty average or worse.
Canucks  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 8:10 am : link
even up the series with the Wild. Vancouver maybe has the best collection of young talent in the league - already playing at the NHL level.

Todays games  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 8:13 am : link
NYI vs FLA at noon on NBCSN, NYI up 2 - 0
NSH vs ARI at 2:30 on NHLN, series tied at 1
TBL vs BOS at 4:00 on NBCSN, Bos 0 - 1, TBL 1- 0 in round robin play
COL vs DAL at 6:30 on NHLN, COL 1 - 0, DAL 0 - 1 in round robin play. COL may have something to say about my VAN comment
PIT vs MON at 8:00 on NBCSN, series tied at 1
EDM vs CHI at 10:30 on NBCSN, series tied at 1
Ho-hum 1st period  
JayBinQueens : 8/5/2020 12:59 pm : link
Fla has a stronger forecheck this period but Isles doing a good job keeping them outside and out of the good scoring chances.

0-0 after 1
RE: Ho-hum 1st period  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 1:08 pm : link
In comment 14944332 JayBinQueens said:
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Fla has a stronger forecheck this period but Isles doing a good job keeping them outside and out of the good scoring chances.

0-0 after 1


Bobrovsky forced Pageau into the non-shot on the 2 on 1, he's a good goalie but they drafted Spencer Knight #13 overall so why sign Bob to a 10-year deal?

anyway, I thought 1st period had good pace and NYI did enough to thwart the FLA 1st line skill.

FLA just scored on the PP, 1 - 0
Muzzin  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 1:09 pm : link
sounds ok, but out the rest of the CBJ series (will reassess after that if TOR moves on). Huge blow to a shaky D group.
Great effort, Rangers.  
Route 9 : 8/5/2020 1:21 pm : link
Maybe the power going out last night was a blessing.
Lets Go Panthers  
Route 9 : 8/5/2020 1:23 pm : link
The rally begins NOW.
Pageau  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 1:29 pm : link
ties it up on a nice pass from Beauvilier and a great finish.
Beauv  
KDubbs : 8/5/2020 1:30 pm : link
Been awesome from the exhibition on
RE: Beauv  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 1:34 pm : link
In comment 14944352 KDubbs said:
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Been awesome from the exhibition on


the Islanders just need to stay out of the box. FLA is one line.
zeeker w the hustle on the pk  
JayBinQueens : 8/5/2020 1:34 pm : link
clutter draws the call to make it 4 on 4
Hoffman makes it 2-1  
Route 9 : 8/5/2020 1:59 pm : link
for Florida.
Brian Boyle lol  
Route 9 : 8/5/2020 2:01 pm : link
....
Brock Nelson  
Route 9 : 8/5/2020 2:29 pm : link
3-2, Florida.
Solid effort by Florida tonight  
Route 9 : 8/5/2020 2:54 pm : link
At least they didn't go down easily and showed everyone they have no business in the playoffs, like the Rangers did.
Today  
Route 9 : 8/5/2020 2:54 pm : link
...
Coyotes  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 3:05 pm : link
up mid 1st on NSH 1 - 0. Series tied 1 - 1.

I thought this series would be boring, but it's not.

Phil Kessel still has some silky mitts, and I still can't stand him.

Coyotes being outshot 17 - 3.
RE: Coyotes  
Route 9 : 8/5/2020 3:29 pm : link
In comment 14944432 pjcas18 said:
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up mid 1st on NSH 1 - 0. Series tied 1 - 1.

I thought this series would be boring, but it's not.

Phil Kessel still has some silky mitts, and I still can't stand him.

Coyotes being outshot 17 - 3.


"Lots of chances."
Bullet  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 3:46 pm : link
from Arvidsson catches Kuemper out of position (good shot though), and NSH ties it at 1.

Nice back check set the whole play up.
Lightning  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 4:20 pm : link
break the ice vs Boston, take a 1 - 0 lead of a rebound.

good action so far in this game as you'd expect. a lot of talent on the ice.
Too many men  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 4:29 pm : link
for BOS results in a TBL PP goal, blast from the point off a skate in front.

2 - 0 TBL
Torrey  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 4:43 pm : link
Krug asks Blake Coleman to fight, Coleman says ok and wins the tilt.

as much as I hate Krug, I give him credit for dropping the gloves to try and spark his team.

getting edgy now. good hockey.
Connar Garland  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 4:52 pm : link
scores midway through the 3rd to put ARI up 2 - 1.
Busy night tonight  
Route 9 : 8/5/2020 6:37 pm : link
Those Oilers-Blackhawks games are a great watch...
Lightning  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 6:40 pm : link
take the lead on a Tyler Johnson rebound.

B's were down 2 and tied it, now in danger of going 0 - 2 with a min left.
Lightning  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 6:54 pm : link
close it out, I don't think the Bruins can get the #1 seed any longer.

I'll take it, but it sucks if you're the Bruins.
Shea Weber  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 8:21 pm : link
opens the scoring for MTL, who takes a 1 - 0 lead vs the Pens.

Good start to the game so far.
Pens challenge  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 8:24 pm : link
it for some reason (claiming goalie interference) and it wasn't even close.

MTL good goal and now a PP.
2 quick goals  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 8:40 pm : link
for the Pens, 1 a PP, give the Pens the lead 2 - 1
incredible pace  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 8:44 pm : link
in MTL vs PIT it's like two fast break basketball teams right now.
Avs  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 9:19 pm : link
shutout the Stars 4 - 0 in round robin play.

Avs now 2 - 0, Stars 0 - 2.

Avs will be tough.

Makar with a blast on the PP for the 1st goal.
Mete  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 9:21 pm : link
just flat out gets beat, and then let's the trailer get the rebound. 3 - 1 Pens.

I think Mete's days are numbered. When you're supposedly a puck mover speed guy and you get beat in a foot race, you aren't really a puck mover.
Drouin  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 9:30 pm : link
shows up with a nice tip and cuts the lead to 1.

Pens lead 3 - 2 halfway through the game
Byron  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 9:43 pm : link
with the wrap around (and rebound) ties it up at 3.

4 min left in the 2nd.

Pens D are as bad as the Habs
A lot of players  
JayBinQueens : 8/5/2020 9:45 pm : link
Getting banged up the last 8 mins or so. Good push back by MTL to tie it up
That  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:15 pm : link
looked like it went in
RE: That  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:16 pm : link
In comment 14944780 pjcas18 said:
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looked like it went in

nope, cross bar
RE: RE: That  
BrettNYG10 : 8/5/2020 10:18 pm : link
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looked like it went in


nope, cross bar


I thought it was in real time and was wondering why the ref didn’t blow the whistle lol
You can’t give that up if you’re Murray.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/5/2020 10:19 pm : link
.
Petry  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:19 pm : link
with the bad angle goal, habs up 4 - 3.

like the pace of this game. it's a track meet. no D. lol.
RE: You can’t give that up if you’re Murray.  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:19 pm : link
In comment 14944786 BrettNYG10 said:
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he is so inconsistent, he's Hasek one day then can't stop a beach ball the next.

but he has 2 rings.
RE: RE: You can’t give that up if you’re Murray.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/5/2020 10:21 pm : link
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he is so inconsistent, he's Hasek one day then can't stop a beach ball the next.

but he has 2 rings.


And Lundqvist and Price have zero. We don’t deserve this.
RE: RE: RE: You can’t give that up if you’re Murray.  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:22 pm : link
In comment 14944790 BrettNYG10 said:
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he is so inconsistent, he's Hasek one day then can't stop a beach ball the next.

but he has 2 rings.



And Lundqvist and Price have zero. We don’t deserve this.


Well they didn't play behind Crosby and Malkin either.

but I agree.
RE: RE: RE: RE: You can’t give that up if you’re Murray.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/5/2020 10:25 pm : link
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he is so inconsistent, he's Hasek one day then can't stop a beach ball the next.

but he has 2 rings.



And Lundqvist and Price have zero. We don’t deserve this.



Well they didn't play behind Crosby and Malkin either.

but I agree.


True. This weird draft lottery had me thinking of 05. Rangers had the same number of ping pong balls as the Penguins, IIRC. Sucks.
Pens  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:48 pm : link
net empty, 1 min left. they're still down by 1.
As much as I want Pittsburgh to lose,  
Anakim : 8/5/2020 10:49 pm : link
Doesn't it feel like they'll end up with Lafreniere? That fucking horseshoe organization. It'll be like the Patriots winding up with Trevor Lawrence.
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:50 pm : link
hold on, they're up 2 - 1, Game 4 Friday.
So how does this August 10 lottery work?  
MetsAreBack : 8/5/2020 10:51 pm : link
Everyone has a 12.5% shot at the number 1 pick but are they going on win % or points per game after that? Which starts at 9. It would be absurd if the rangers picked 15th....
9 or 10 overall wouldn’t be shabby in this draft (with Montreal chicago and Arizona potentially not in this lottery)
RE: As much as I want Pittsburgh to lose,  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:51 pm : link
In comment 14944807 Anakim said:
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Doesn't it feel like they'll end up with Lafreniere? That fucking horseshoe organization. It'll be like the Patriots winding up with Trevor Lawrence.


them or the Rangers. The Rangers got pretty fortunate to get Kakko up from 6 (?)
RE: RE: As much as I want Pittsburgh to lose,  
MetsAreBack : 8/5/2020 11:04 pm : link
In comment 14944810 pjcas18 said:
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Doesn't it feel like they'll end up with Lafreniere? That fucking horseshoe organization. It'll be like the Patriots winding up with Trevor Lawrence.



them or the Rangers. The Rangers got pretty fortunate to get Kakko up from 6 (?)


Nice try. Rangers and Kakko haven’t done a thing yet with that. Loads of teams over the years have jumped a few spots up the draft - like Edmonton and NJ, for example.

Those Pittsburgh jumps landed them 3 cups
Crawford  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 11:49 pm : link
is trash too.

He's flopping around like a fish.

And he has 2 rings.

Draisaitl's 2nd of the game ties it at 2.

Blackhawks PP can be dreadful  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 12:14 am : link
...
Knee took a hit there.  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 12:18 am : link
...
....  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 12:23 am : link
Connor McDavid late period Goal. 7.8 seconds left. 3-2, Edmonton.
Wow. Two late Chicago goals.  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 1:15 am : link
Now lead with 12.5 to go.
Today's game schedule 📅 🏒  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 5:52 am : link
Thursday, August 6
MATCHUP
TIME
NAT TV

VAN
WEST QUALIFYING - GAME 3, Series tied 1-1
@

MIN
2:30 PM
NHL

WSH
EAST QUALIFYING ROUND ROBIN
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PHI
4:00 PM
NBCSN

VGS
WEST QUALIFYING ROUND ROBIN
@

STL
6:30 PM
NHL

TOR
EAST QUALIFYING - GAME 3, Series tied 1-1
@

CBJ
8:00 PM
NBCSN

CGY
WEST QUALIFYING - GAME 4, CGY Lead series 2-1
@

WPG
10:30 PM
NBCSN
Toews  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 8:05 am : link
is having a great series. McDavid and Draisaitl too, but CHI on the verge of the biggest upset so far (MTL too).
RE: RE: As much as I want Pittsburgh to lose,  
Anakim : 8/6/2020 8:15 am : link
In comment 14944810 pjcas18 said:
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Doesn't it feel like they'll end up with Lafreniere? That fucking horseshoe organization. It'll be like the Patriots winding up with Trevor Lawrence.



them or the Rangers. The Rangers got pretty fortunate to get Kakko up from 6 (?)


Once. Once! We were only lucky in the Lottery once.
With the Crosby  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 8:33 am : link
lottery, the Penguins were one of 4 favored teams based on the weighting.

I understand Rangers fans bitterness b/c the Pens are a rival and the Rangers were one of the other 3 teams, and Crosby's Penguins have won 3 cups, but they had the same chance at Crosby as three other teams. And the league would have been better off overall if Crosby wound up in NY.

Unless you think it was fixed there wasn't much ping pong ball luck and it doesn't make much sense for the league to fix it for PIT and pin the hopes of Crosby pulling the team out of a financial mess.
I don't think it was fixed.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/6/2020 9:28 am : link
It was just so disappointing to get #16 that year. They actually did well trading up for Staal when you look at the rest of the draft.

And Staal was only one pick behind Kopitar.
That's basically what the Rangers face  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 9:33 am : link
this year. #1 or somewhere between 9 and 15.

And from what I have observed and read not a ton of difference between 9 and 15. Maybe 9 and 13, but most people have players 4 - 15 or so interchangeable.

RE: With the Crosby  
Anakim : 8/6/2020 9:49 am : link
In comment 14944858 pjcas18 said:
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Unless you think it was fixed there wasn't much ping pong ball luck and it doesn't make much sense for the league to fix it for PIT and pin the hopes of Crosby pulling the team out of a financial mess.


I don't think it was fixed. It's pure luck. The Penguins are a lucky fucking organization. From Lemieux and Jagr to Crosby and Malkin.
RE: That's basically what the Rangers face  
MetsAreBack : 8/6/2020 10:17 am : link
In comment 14944887 pjcas18 said:
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this year. #1 or somewhere between 9 and 15.

And from what I have observed and read not a ton of difference between 9 and 15. Maybe 9 and 13, but most people have players 4 - 15 or so interchangeable.


So I looked for this information and couldnt find... the Rangers might pick 15th? Common sense would dictate that the 8 teams would simply draw evenly for that #1 slot and then after that you pick by order of standings, much as they did for the worst 7 teams (e.g., Detroit wasnt at risk to pick 7th)... thats not the case??
RE: RE: That's basically what the Rangers face  
Anakim : 8/6/2020 10:25 am : link
In comment 14944901 MetsAreBack said:
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this year. #1 or somewhere between 9 and 15.

And from what I have observed and read not a ton of difference between 9 and 15. Maybe 9 and 13, but most people have players 4 - 15 or so interchangeable.




So I looked for this information and couldnt find... the Rangers might pick 15th? Common sense would dictate that the 8 teams would simply draw evenly for that #1 slot and then after that you pick by order of standings, much as they did for the worst 7 teams (e.g., Detroit wasnt at risk to pick 7th)... thats not the case??


I believe the Rangers draft pick ranges from 9-14 (assuming they don't win the #1 overall pick). We should be rooting for the Canadiens (over Yinz), Blackhawks (over Oilers), Wild (over Canucks), and Coyotes (over Predators)
RE: RE: RE: That's basically what the Rangers face  
Anakim : 8/6/2020 10:26 am : link
In comment 14944905 Anakim said:
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this year. #1 or somewhere between 9 and 15.

And from what I have observed and read not a ton of difference between 9 and 15. Maybe 9 and 13, but most people have players 4 - 15 or so interchangeable.




So I looked for this information and couldnt find... the Rangers might pick 15th? Common sense would dictate that the 8 teams would simply draw evenly for that #1 slot and then after that you pick by order of standings, much as they did for the worst 7 teams (e.g., Detroit wasnt at risk to pick 7th)... thats not the case??



I believe the Rangers draft pick ranges from 9-14 (assuming they don't win the #1 overall pick). We should be rooting for the Canadiens (over Yinz), Blackhawks (over Oilers), Wild (over Canucks), and Coyotes (over Predators)


This guy has a good chart, MAB
Link - ( New Window )
Thanks  
MetsAreBack : 8/6/2020 10:31 am : link
ok, phew, some common sense has prevailed from the league for once (lately they seem to have vastly improved their analytical decision making by the way... though until the 3 point OT game vs 2 point regulation game is fixed, they're still general morons)

As a Rangers fan, would be great if MTL, ARZ and CHI can close out their series... we'd move up to #11 at worst. As a hockey fan, i think its just plain absurd that MTL and CHI were given a best of 5 chance to amend what had been pretty horrendous 70 game regular seasons for them....
I hope MTL  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 11:18 am : link
wins the cup just to piss off the haters.

the Pens got Guentzel back, that should have been consolation enough for them playing one of the worst teams in the league.

CHI has a better shot to get there though. The West is wide open, some good teams - right now my favorites would be COL and CAL, but CHI has a shot to come out of the west because no one has a complete team IMO.
Islanders  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 11:28 am : link
fans...pretty cool:

RE: I hope MTL  
BrettNYG10 : 8/6/2020 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14944945 pjcas18 said:
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wins the cup just to piss off the haters.

the Pens got Guentzel back, that should have been consolation enough for them playing one of the worst teams in the league.

CHI has a better shot to get there though. The West is wide open, some good teams - right now my favorites would be COL and CAL, but CHI has a shot to come out of the west because no one has a complete team IMO.


The Pens are the better team outside of the goalie, but the Habs have impressed.

Gallagher is much better than I remember.
Gallagher  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 1:57 pm : link
is a hustler. Not a ton of skill, but more heart than 80% of the league.

Other than Price the Canadiens best players have been Suzuki, Kotkaniemi and Weber.

and it's good to see Kotkaniemi have a solid return after a disappointing year.
Penguins  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 2:04 pm : link
D is brutal.

Letang is a shell of his former self, Dumoulin is mediocre as always, Jack Johnson is cooked, Pettersson is bad, Schultz surprises me, he had a couple good years, I'm surprised if he's healthy he's this bad.

Their best D is John Marino.

Interesting proposal I saw on Twitter  
Anakim : 8/6/2020 2:08 pm : link
Tony Deangelo to Vegas for either Cody Glass or Peyton Krebs

Knights need a PP QB and a RHD badly. They have no one on that side. Deangelo is obviously one of the best offensive defensemen in the NHL.


Rangers need a 2C and would get a young prospect in Glass or Krebs. Rangers were really high on Glass in the 2017 Draft. Glass had a banged-up rookie season, though, so I'd prefer Krebs.
YES  
MetsAreBack : 8/6/2020 2:12 pm : link

I will take a "Glass" on this team any way we can get one...
RE: Penguins  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 2:46 pm : link
In comment 14945027 pjcas18 said:
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D is brutal.

Letang is a shell of his former self, Dumoulin is mediocre as always, Jack Johnson is cooked, Pettersson is bad, Schultz surprises me, he had a couple good years, I'm surprised if he's healthy he's this bad.

Their best D is John Marino.


Murray was trash last night, too.
Ha. And who would the Rangers bring in to save us?  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 2:54 pm : link
Shut down Panarin and Zibanejad and you're good to go. Kreider and the rest do a fantastic job of shutting down themsleves.

This is far from a playoff team.
Rumor  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 3:44 pm : link
was when the Canadiens trade Pacioretty to LVG they (the Canadiens) wanted Cody Glass, but LVG said no but did include Nick Suzuki.

None of us knows the truth, but I always thought Suzuki was a better prospect than Glass, so I doubt that's true, but those are the rumors.

Granted, MTL also got a 2nd round pick and Tomas Tatar from LVG, not just Suzuki, but I don't know if TDA gets it done for Glass. I prefer Krebs though even though he's smaller. Such a strong skater.
VAN  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 3:46 pm : link
vs MIN scoreless with 5 min gone in the 2nd.
Minnesota Vancouver  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 3:56 pm : link
Getting scrappy. Tight, 0-0 game.

Some headhunting going on...
Lol  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 3:57 pm : link
"Fuck that guy!"
Vancouver the worst passing in the history of the NHL  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 4:00 pm : link
...
Who  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 4:48 pm : link
hits a goalie like that and doesn't expect to be roughed up after.

They just got done showing Fiala almost die and I felt a little bit bad for him, but what a douche bag.

This game is great, these teams seem to hate each other.
holy shit  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 4:53 pm : link
stalock, incredible save
Boeser  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 5:18 pm : link
with his 2nd of the game (a PP goal) seals it for VAN. They will go up 2 - 1 in the series.

27 seconds left.
Markstrom  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 5:20 pm : link
making the case for the 6' 6" goalie.
Given the shitburger that 2020 has been  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 5:22 pm : link
I would be 0% surprised if the Flyers won the cup
Just switched  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 5:39 pm : link
on Caps Flyers and if NHL.com is right it must be pretty boring.

3 min left in the 2nd and shots are 11 to 10.

I tuned in just in time to see the Sanheim goal - pretty sweet move
Hayes has been phenomenal for those Philthy Phucks  
Anakim : 8/6/2020 5:40 pm : link
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RE: Hayes has been phenomenal for those Philthy Phucks  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14945130 Anakim said:
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No surprise.
RE: RE: Hayes has been phenomenal for those Philthy Phucks  
Anakim : 8/6/2020 6:01 pm : link
In comment 14945139 Route 9 said:
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No surprise.


It is a bit. The biggest knock on him as a Ranger was his inconsistency. Well, he found out this season.
RE: RE: RE: Hayes has been phenomenal for those Philthy Phucks  
Anakim : 8/6/2020 6:01 pm : link
In comment 14945140 Anakim said:
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No surprise.



It is a bit. The biggest knock on him as a Ranger was his inconsistency. Well, he found out this season.


*it
The biggest knock  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 6:25 pm : link
I had for Hayes was lack of physicality.

And this is just me personally, nothing I dislike more than a 6' 5" 220 pound finesse player.

It's like wasting a gift from god.

no idea if that has changed in PHI
Yeah but believe it or not...  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 6:33 pm : link
I saw Brady Skjei lay a hit or two in the series against the Rangers. Stranger things... Who knew?
CBJ showing fight  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 10:19 pm : link
Tied it 3-3.
LOL. Leafs gonna Leaf  
Anakim : 8/6/2020 10:33 pm : link
Go Blue Jackets!
Well at least it wasn’t a choke against Boston  
MetsAreBack : 8/6/2020 11:24 pm : link
This time. So there’s that.
JT  
KDubbs : 8/6/2020 11:46 pm : link
The king of offensive zone turnovers in ot leading to gw goals. At least he didnt snap his stick this time. My fellow isles fans saw that quite a few times
It's official.  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 4:03 am : link
NY Rangers have some companionship in the "loser pile" for the 2020 Covid-19 edition of the playoffs.

It feels as if the Rangers were eliminated from the competition two weeks ago. Calgary shuts out Winnipeg 4-0, win qualifying round series.

Congratulations to former New York Rangers goalie, Cam Talbot.

Yikes. Calgary outscored Winnipeg 16-6 in the series. I'm going to keep my eye on Calgary, going ahead and they seem to be a tough out.

I still have the scumbag Philadelphia Flyers winning this whole thing.
Will Florida RISE on the NY Islanders?  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 4:05 am : link
Or will the 4-wheel team from New York play it safe? and win this whole thing?
RE: It's official.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/7/2020 9:13 am : link
In comment 14945330 Route 9 said:
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NY Rangers have some companionship in the "loser pile" for the 2020 Covid-19 edition of the playoffs.

It feels as if the Rangers were eliminated from the competition two weeks ago. Calgary shuts out Winnipeg 4-0, win qualifying round series.

Congratulations to former New York Rangers goalie, Cam Talbot.

Yikes. Calgary outscored Winnipeg 16-6 in the series. I'm going to keep my eye on Calgary, going ahead and they seem to be a tough out.

I still have the scumbag Philadelphia Flyers winning this whole thing.


We lost first so we deserve the #1 pick.
All potential elimination games today  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 9:21 am : link
NYI can close out FLA at 12:00 PM on NBCSN

ARI can close out NSH at 2:30 on NHLN

MTL can close out PIT at 4:00 on NBCSN

CHI can close out EMD at 6:45 on NBCSN

CBJ can close out TOR at 8:00 on NHLN

VAN can close out MIN at 10:45 on NBCSN
Calgary really impressed me.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/7/2020 9:38 am : link
Excited for today's games.
RE: Calgary really impressed me.  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 9:51 am : link
In comment 14945390 BrettNYG10 said:
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Excited for today's games.


"the Flames could be a sneaky team if they get some momentum. skill, grit, solid D. no one likes playing a team like that."

Flames and Av's my two WC favorites. LVG would be 3rd.
Tito comes to play today  
JayBinQueens : 8/7/2020 12:42 pm : link
Tito - 2
panthers - 0
RE: Tito comes to play today  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14945487 JayBinQueens said:
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Tito - 2
panthers - 0


He's having a great series. If he's as streaky as NYI fans say, hope he's superstitious too and keeps doing what he's doing.
Though  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 1:03 pm : link
he did get some "help" from Bob on one of his goals. holy fuck, that's a deflating goal to give up.
20 mins to go  
KDubbs : 8/7/2020 1:49 pm : link
Barzal finally going also. Now when will Anders Lee wake up?
NYI  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 2:37 pm : link
have punched their ticket to the 2020 NHL playoffs, FLA has entered the Lafreniere sweepstakes.
RE: NYI  
Anakim : 8/7/2020 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14945587 pjcas18 said:
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have punched their ticket to the 2020 NHL playoffs, FLA has entered the Lafreniere sweepstakes.


Because if Ekblad, Huberdeau, and Barkov weren't enough. Hell, they may be giving the Oilers a run for their money.
Close it out, Yotes  
Anakim : 8/7/2020 2:45 pm : link
C'mon
the panthers are so damned useless  
Greg from LI : 8/7/2020 2:46 pm : link
All that talent and they just suck
RE: the panthers are so damned useless  
JayBinQueens : 8/7/2020 2:47 pm : link
In comment 14945593 Greg from LI said:
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All that talent and they just suck

Their D was really bad. The Matheson and Bob contracts are going to be really hard to move to let them try to utilize the cap effectively. I think the 2 of them are taking 15 mil/year for the next 6 years
RE: RE: NYI  
Anakim : 8/7/2020 2:51 pm : link
In comment 14945590 Anakim said:
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In comment 14945587 pjcas18 said:


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have punched their ticket to the 2020 NHL playoffs, FLA has entered the Lafreniere sweepstakes.



Because if Ekblad, Huberdeau, and Barkov weren't enough. Hell, they may be giving the Oilers a run for their money.


*as if
I really hope the Blue Jackets win today  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 2:59 pm : link
because I hate the Leafs only slightly less than the Bruins, but that's a franchise who would win the Lafreniere sweepstakes.

RE: I really hope the Blue Jackets win today  
Anakim : 8/7/2020 3:00 pm : link
In comment 14945599 pjcas18 said:
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because I hate the Leafs only slightly less than the Bruins, but that's a franchise who would win the Lafreniere sweepstakes.


I hope Columbus eliminates Toronto tonight as well
....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/7/2020 3:18 pm : link
I want the Leafs to win. Think they're a really fun team to watch.

The Leafs/Coyotes/Panthers are all great examples of the limitations of elite talent and importance of depth.
Any clue  
KDubbs : 8/7/2020 3:27 pm : link
How the scheduling will be in the next rd? Gotta go back to work next week and hoping no more noon games for isles
RE: ....  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 3:40 pm : link
In comment 14945607 BrettNYG10 said:
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I want the Leafs to win. Think they're a really fun team to watch.

The Leafs/Coyotes/Panthers are all great examples of the limitations of elite talent and importance of depth.


the Leafs more than the others. TOR has $33M tied up in Tavares, Matthews, and Marner.

I don't think anyone in the league is as top heavy as TOR.

FLA basically has that $33M spread out over their top 5 or 6.

Huge difference. Of course TOR top 3 are awesome, but when your bottom 6 is trash and your D is brutal your lack of depth will lose games for you - as you indicated.
Apparently  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 3:43 pm : link
Dale Tallon has been relieved of his duties (Panthers GM).

RE: RE: ....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/7/2020 3:50 pm : link
In comment 14945619 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14945607 BrettNYG10 said:


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I want the Leafs to win. Think they're a really fun team to watch.

The Leafs/Coyotes/Panthers are all great examples of the limitations of elite talent and importance of depth.



the Leafs more than the others. TOR has $33M tied up in Tavares, Matthews, and Marner.

I don't think anyone in the league is as top heavy as TOR.

FLA basically has that $33M spread out over their top 5 or 6.

Huge difference. Of course TOR top 3 are awesome, but when your bottom 6 is trash and your D is brutal your lack of depth will lose games for you - as you indicated.


Good point. I think literally everyone on earth would have signed Tavares, but you can make an argument you needed to spread that out across the roster instead.
Fat Phil  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 4:09 pm : link
shows up with a 5v5 goal, but two NSH goals (1 on the PP) tie it up.

2 - 2 after 2. Good game so far.
Montreal  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 4:39 pm : link
really needs to lobby for a rule to decline a penalty.

the Pens had better chance shorthanded than the habs did on the PP.

Such a momentum shift.
ARI  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 4:48 pm : link
takes the lead, NSH 9 min away from elimination.

Arizona closer to moving forward  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 4:52 pm : link
.....
Wow  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 5:05 pm : link
NSH ties it, Forsberg rocket
Failure to clear  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 5:06 pm : link
the puck out, awful play led to the goal.
Arizona chokes  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 5:07 pm : link
....
OT  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 5:08 pm : link
for NSH vs ARI - and this is playoff OT (so 5v5 and make ice, etc.) not regular season OT (3v3 no ice)
Richardson for Arizona nets the winner  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 5:30 pm : link
Fuck off Nashville. Goodnight.
ARI  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 5:30 pm : link
has punched their ticket to the 2020 stanley cup playoffs.

the Predators are in the Lafreniere sweepstakes.
Like DeAndre Baker's NFL career.  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 5:30 pm : link
Nashville is done.
RE: ARI  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14945676 pjcas18 said:
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has punched their ticket to the 2020 stanley cup playoffs.

the Predators are in the Lafreniere sweepstakes.


So what is everyone expecting with this guy?

Or is he going to be a Alexandre Daigle?
0-0 between Pittsburgh and Montreal. 14 minute mark  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 6:02 pm : link
Watching Sheary skate is always comical. What in the fuck?
Montreal is playing tough  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 6:04 pm : link
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RE: ....  
Anakim : 8/7/2020 6:05 pm : link
In comment 14945607 BrettNYG10 said:
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I want the Leafs to win. Think they're a really fun team to watch.



That's not in the Rangers best interest, Brettski
......  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 6:07 pm : link
Is Schultz high? Pittsburgh's depth sucks.
Letang is having a terrible game  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 6:11 pm : link
...
Montreal better bury one soon  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 6:18 pm : link
....
RE: Montreal better bury one soon  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 6:19 pm : link
In comment 14945700 Route 9 said:
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You are a smart fucking cookie 🍪
Ding Dong  
Anakim : 8/7/2020 6:27 pm : link
Penguins are dead
Honestly, if the Penguins wind up with Lafreniere,  
Anakim : 8/7/2020 6:30 pm : link
I'm done
Fist bumps are idiotic  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 6:30 pm : link
....
RE: Ding Dong  
John In CO : 8/7/2020 6:31 pm : link
In comment 14945705 Anakim said:
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Penguins are dead


Like to think I know a little something about the NHL, but MTL 3 games to 1 over the Pens with both teams healthy.. I DID NOT see this coming. Not that im disappointed, but surprised. Pens just looked lifeless to me.
MTL  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 6:32 pm : link
Has punched a their ticket to the 2020 NHL playoffs. The pens are in the Lafreniere sweepstakes
Carey  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 6:32 pm : link
Price incredible series
If JT loses  
KDubbs : 8/7/2020 6:33 pm : link
A happy hat trick for us isles fans today
RE: RE: Ding Dong  
Anakim : 8/7/2020 6:33 pm : link
In comment 14945708 John In CO said:
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Penguins are dead



Like to think I know a little something about the NHL, but MTL 3 games to 1 over the Pens with both teams healthy.. I DID NOT see this coming. Not that im disappointed, but surprised. Pens just looked lifeless to me.


I don't think anyone saw it coming...but it was the 5 vs. 12 matchup so the upset was meant to be. :D
RE: If JT loses  
Anakim : 8/7/2020 6:34 pm : link
In comment 14945711 KDubbs said:
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A happy hat trick for us isles fans today


And more importantly, the Rangers. We need Blue Jackets to knock off the Maple Leafs; Blackhawks to knock off the Oilers; and Wild to stay alive against the 'Nuckers.


But seriously, congrats. Good luck in the playoffs.
I’m surprised  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 6:35 pm : link
But the oddsmakers were all over this. MTL was favored
RE: I’m surprised  
Anakim : 8/7/2020 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14945715 pjcas18 said:
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But the oddsmakers were all over this. MTL was favored


REALLY? Wow. I wonder what they knew.
RE: RE: I’m surprised  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 6:45 pm : link
In comment 14945716 Anakim said:
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In comment 14945715 pjcas18 said:


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But the oddsmakers were all over this. MTL was favored



REALLY? Wow. I wonder what they knew.


No idea. Maybe that the Pens D was brutal and Carey Price was healthy and rested.
RE: RE: I’m surprised  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 6:52 pm : link
In comment 14945716 Anakim said:
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In comment 14945715 pjcas18 said:


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But the oddsmakers were all over this. MTL was favored



REALLY? Wow. I wonder what they knew.


You don't remember Pittsburgh was going downhill before the "pause"? They lost 6 in a row, won 3 out of 11.

They got no depth and they really looked like shit prior to this series.
RE: RE: RE: I’m surprised  
Anakim : 8/7/2020 7:03 pm : link
In comment 14945725 Route 9 said:
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In comment 14945716 Anakim said:


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In comment 14945715 pjcas18 said:


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But the oddsmakers were all over this. MTL was favored



REALLY? Wow. I wonder what they knew.



You don't remember Pittsburgh was going downhill before the "pause"? They lost 6 in a row, won 3 out of 11.

They got no depth and they really looked like shit prior to this series.


Nope, didn't remember that. I don't think the Canadiens expected to be in the postseason. They seemed to be in a bit of a rebuild when they traded away Ilya Kovachuk, Marco Scandella and Nate Thompson
These Chicago/Edmonton games  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 7:04 pm : link
have been great.

Oilers score. No Tyler Ennis.
Fuck  
Anakim : 8/7/2020 7:04 pm : link
C'mon, Blackhawks. Get your shit together.
RE: RE: RE: I’m surprised  
JayBinQueens : 8/7/2020 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14945725 Route 9 said:
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In comment 14945716 Anakim said:


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In comment 14945715 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


But the oddsmakers were all over this. MTL was favored



REALLY? Wow. I wonder what they knew.



You don't remember Pittsburgh was going downhill before the "pause"? They lost 6 in a row, won 3 out of 11.

They got no depth and they really looked like shit prior to this series.

Islanders were playing their worst hockey of the season before the break. Rangers were going on a nice run before the break. What happened before the break didn't really mean much
......  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 7:10 pm : link
Then what other data would they base it on? As pj said Price was well rested. Penguins defense was laughable in this series.

Come on. You knew the Rangers would be a disappointment for the 79th year in a row.

Actually, Outside of Crosby and Malkin in certain moments, everyone played like shit. That's what's fun about the NHL playoffs. NUKED.
Penguins got NUKED  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 7:10 pm : link
is what I meant
Chicago and Edmonton already tied, 1-1.  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 7:17 pm : link
Nope. 2-1, Chicago.
Damn. 5 minute major.  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 8:06 pm : link
Edmonton on the power play.
RE: RE: ARI  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 9:02 pm : link
In comment 14945681 Route 9 said:
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In comment 14945676 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


has punched their ticket to the 2020 stanley cup playoffs.

the Predators are in the Lafreniere sweepstakes.



So what is everyone expecting with this guy?

Or is he going to be a Alexandre Daigle?


Nothing is guaranteed with the NHL draft, but Lafreniere is probably the best rated #1 overall pick since McDavid.
After being trash  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 9:05 pm : link
last game Crawford is on fire this one.
Eat shit, Maple Leafs  
Anakim : 8/7/2020 9:08 pm : link
.
EDM  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 9:11 pm : link
dominates zone time, shots, physicality, and CHI comes down and scores.

3 - 2 CHI, almost halfway through the 3rd
Ya. I'm aware of how it works.  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 9:16 pm : link
Chicago up. Hope this series goes to 5.
What a stupid  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 9:26 pm : link
penalty, too many men for EDM

Koskinen started to go to the bench and then went back in the net but the extra skater already went on.

Oilers going down.

24th and 23rd teams in the tournament likely to advance.
No McDavid  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 9:30 pm : link
no Draisaitl
no Crosby
no Malkin

I don't think this is what the NHL wanted by expanding the field.

but I'll take it.
Probably the best series so far  
Route 9 : 8/7/2020 9:32 pm : link
The type of hockey action I enjoy.
the Oilers  
RasputinPrime : 8/7/2020 9:37 pm : link
are just all sorts of snakebit. If either they or the Leafs win a cup, everyone better be looking for the other signs of the apocalypse.
NYR  
Carl in CT : 8/7/2020 9:46 pm : link
Pick no later than #11.
a lot of good hockey  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 9:54 pm : link
so far - one overlooked series (by me a little) has been VAN vs MIN so physical, it's like an old school Norris division battle.

and VAN has so much skill.
Epic choke by cbj  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/7/2020 10:31 pm : link
Holy shit
That was ridiculous.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/7/2020 10:43 pm : link
The Blue Jackets got so lazy there.
The last two..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/7/2020 10:45 pm : link
TOR/COL games have been crazy.

This is entertaining shit!
Leafs  
pjcas18 : 8/7/2020 11:13 pm : link
come all the way back, show some heart for a change and force the first game 5 of the qualifying round.

what a disaster for CBJ
Wow. How embarrassing for CBJ.  
Route 9 : 8/8/2020 12:01 am : link
Hahahaha.
Minnesota/Vancouver  
Route 9 : 8/8/2020 12:22 am : link
tied at 3.
Only lasted 11 seconds into OT  
Route 9 : 8/8/2020 1:47 am : link
Canucks advance.
VAN punches their  
pjcas18 : 8/8/2020 8:28 am : link
ticket to the 2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs.

MIN is entered in the Lafreniere sweepstakes
If CBJ  
pjcas18 : 8/8/2020 8:30 am : link
loses Werenski for a significant period of time they could be done (and if they move on it would be short lived).

Seth Jones is probably my favorite non-Habs player, but he needs Werenski to make the best D pair in the league.

Textbook example  
pjcas18 : 8/8/2020 9:15 am : link
of a goalie stealing a series (Crawford too - though in the losses he was brutal):

Quote:
Sean Tierney
@ChartingHockey
Reality vs expectation

MTL has beaten expectation by ~8 goals. They've scored ~1 more goal than expected and Price saved 7 goals that should've been. That's how you pull off an upset.



Actually  
pjcas18 : 8/8/2020 9:16 am : link
CHI was more about EDM goalie being bad than CHI being good, sure EDM underperformed in xG, but CHI overperformed in xG, which means EDM goalie was as bad as Crawford was good (crudely stated)
RE: No McDavid  
Mike in NY : 8/8/2020 9:22 am : link
In comment 14945841 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
no Draisaitl
no Crosby
no Malkin

I don't think this is what the NHL wanted by expanding the field.

but I'll take it.


When Pittsburgh wins the lottery NHL will still be happy.
NHL wants  
pjcas18 : 8/8/2020 9:26 am : link
stars in TOR and NY more than PIT.

No idea why fans think the NHL wants PIT to be good. They don't want any team to be in dire financial straits - it's bad for the league, but at the end of the day they don't give a shit if PIT relocates to the sun belt, they care about the original 6 teams and Canadian teams more.
So just one qualifying ‘game 7’ (ok five)  
MetsAreBack : 8/8/2020 10:54 am : link
That’s disappointing
......  
Route 9 : 8/8/2020 5:32 pm : link
What the fuck? That should be a penalty on Colorado only.
another late  
pjcas18 : 8/8/2020 5:48 pm : link
game tie, Avs tie up LVG with 1 min left.
On to OT  
pjcas18 : 8/8/2020 5:51 pm : link
and since it's a round robin game it's 3v3 OT followed by a shootout if no one scores.

not playoff OT
Vegas  
pjcas18 : 8/8/2020 5:58 pm : link
gets the #1 seed in the West (oddsmakers had Vegas as the WC favorite).

Vegas wins  
Route 9 : 8/8/2020 6:01 pm : link
...
I am terrified of the Flyers winning the cup, you guys.  
Route 9 : 8/8/2020 6:13 pm : link
2020, people.
Fucking Flyers  
Route 9 : 8/8/2020 8:38 pm : link
Way too easy for them. That, or the ice is sloped to the Tampa Bay net.
Flyers, 2-0.  
Route 9 : 8/8/2020 8:44 pm : link
They got some depth!! Meanwhile the Rangers are on rebuild year number 617.
Nak, did more tonight than the Rangers did  
Route 9 : 8/8/2020 8:51 pm : link
the entire series. Ok point proven.
Philly and Vegas #1 seeds  
Route 9 : 8/8/2020 11:36 pm : link
TOMORROW:

Boston/Washington - Round robin

Dallas/St. Louis - Round robin

Columbus/Toronto - Game 5
MTL  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 8:13 am : link
vs PHI. PHI has been ridiculously impressive so far, in all facets.

I am starting to warm on the Philly to the finals opinions some on here had.

And moneypuck also had them as the EC favorite (in fact I believe as cup favorites).

I still think Boston gets their head out of their ass, but they made it harder for themselves.
Caps win, 3 seed  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/9/2020 2:42 pm : link
Isles VS Caps
B's VS Canes

Whoever wins CBJ/Leafs lucks out, they'll play Tampa without Stamkos or Hedman.
Bruins wind  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 2:45 pm : link
up the 4 seed. What a disaster for them.

They play CAR now instead of MTL. Massive difference in quality of team.

If they won today they would have played NYI so I'm not sure this game mattered too much since both CAR and NYI are tough teams except it's not brackets, it's re-seeding so being #4 could hurt down the road too.

We owe the caps  
KDubbs : 8/9/2020 2:51 pm : link
1. We got Pens last yr lets get these bastards this year
Both teams from last years finals wind up  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 6:29 pm : link
0 - 3 in the round robin. I wonder if it's a coincidence or if even with the long layoff, fatigue is catching up.

Blues lose to Stars in a SO.

Both 1st place teams wind up 4th.

Last game of the preliminary round coming up in 90 min and decides who goes home, CBJ or TOR.
Werenski  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 8:24 pm : link
in the lineup and makes his presence known, opens the scoring. 1 - 0 CBJ as the BJ's are all over the Leafs.
Tavares  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 8:42 pm : link
missed an empty net that would have tied it.

I need to see how he missed that.
Leafs  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 9:29 pm : link
have all the momentum right now.

Still down 1 - 0 with 3 and a half left in the 2nd, but the leafs are controlling the play and dominating zone time.
RE: Tavares  
Route 9 : 8/9/2020 9:36 pm : link
In comment 14946845 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
missed an empty net that would have tied it.

I need to see how he missed that.


Was it a Rick Nash 2014 type of miss?
RE: RE: Tavares  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 9:46 pm : link
In comment 14946860 Route 9 said:
Quote:
In comment 14946845 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


missed an empty net that would have tied it.

I need to see how he missed that.



Was it a Rick Nash 2014 type of miss?


Not quite the same. Nash went off a D's stick, Tavares just missed the net cleanly - looked like he hit a post.
Korpisalo has been sharp  
Anakim : 8/9/2020 10:07 pm : link
.
Bad  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 10:11 pm : link
angle goal for Foudy
He's  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 10:12 pm : link
been all over the ice tonight. Rookie making the most of Atkinson issue.

Andersen can't let that in.
YES!  
Anakim : 8/9/2020 10:14 pm : link
PUT IT AWAY, CBJ!
RE: He's  
Anakim : 8/9/2020 10:15 pm : link
In comment 14946872 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
been all over the ice tonight. Rookie making the most of Atkinson issue.

Andersen can't let that in.


I know his brother is a pretty good prospect in the upcoming Draft. Is he speedy like his brother?
RE: YES!  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 10:15 pm : link
In comment 14946873 Anakim said:
Quote:
PUT IT AWAY, CBJ!

you must be new to this series, lol.

nothing is put away. ever.
RE: RE: YES!  
Anakim : 8/9/2020 10:16 pm : link
In comment 14946875 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
In comment 14946873 Anakim said:


Quote:


PUT IT AWAY, CBJ!


you must be new to this series, lol.

nothing is put away. ever.


I'm well aware, especially after last game
RE: RE: He's  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14946874 Anakim said:
Quote:
In comment 14946872 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


been all over the ice tonight. Rookie making the most of Atkinson issue.

Andersen can't let that in.



I know his brother is a pretty good prospect in the upcoming Draft. Is he speedy like his brother?


Jean-Luc. I don't think he's as good a prospect, hard for me to know since for me I mostly see them in the international tournaments and they were mostly canceled.

Except the Hlinka where Jean-Luc was awesome. He is fast, not sure he's as fast as Liam though. That Canada team was stacked. Byfield, Perfetti, Drysdale, Lapierre, etc.
Toronto had home ice tonight  
Route 9 : 8/9/2020 10:24 pm : link
and scored 0 goals lol
Here is the  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 10:26 pm : link
Tavares miss.

Granted the D was preventing it from being a total tap in, but you expect an NHL player to hit this empty net - let alone one as much as star as Tavares.
link - ( New Window )
Now  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 10:27 pm : link
it's over and TBL worst nightmare.

CBJ...again.
Last ticket  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 10:28 pm : link
punched for the Stanley Cup playoffs by CBJ.

The Leafs are in the Lafreniere sweepstakes.
Don't matter. Flyers will win the whole thing.  
Route 9 : 8/9/2020 10:30 pm : link
2020 continues.
RE: Now  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/9/2020 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14946881 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
it's over and TBL worst nightmare.

CBJ...again.


.... With two probable hall of famers out of the lineup
So the Rangers officially have the Hurricanes' first round pick  
Anakim : 8/9/2020 10:36 pm : link
.
Finalization  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 10:38 pm : link
of draft lottery tomorrow at 6pm.

One of:

WIN
FLA
MIN
NYR
PIT
EDM
TOR
NSH

will pick Alexis Lafreniere

The teams who do not win will be slotted from 9 to 15 in reverse order of their winning percentage.
RE: Finalization  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/9/2020 10:41 pm : link
In comment 14946888 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
of draft lottery tomorrow at 6pm.

One of:

WIN
FLA
MIN
NYR
PIT
EDM
TOR
NSH

will pick Alexis Lafreniere

The teams who do not win will be slotted from 9 to 15 in reverse order of their winning percentage.


I will be shocked if it's not Pitt or the rangers
My bold predictions:  
Anakim : 8/9/2020 10:45 pm : link
East:


Bruins over Hurricanes

Capitals over Islanders

Blue Jackets over Lightning (I think not having Hedman and Stamkos will really hurt)

AND the ultimate upset...Canadiens over Flyers in an absolute shocker



West:


Flames over Stars

Huge upset: Blackhawks over Golden Knights

Blues over Canucks

And one more final upset: Coyotes over Avalanche




Yep, I'm going with both 12 seeds upsetting the #1 seeds
RE: Last ticket  
SJGiant : 8/9/2020 10:45 pm : link
In comment 14946882 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
punched for the Stanley Cup playoffs by CBJ.

The Leafs are in the Lafreniere sweepstakes.


Doesn’t Carolina now own this pick?
Rangers?  
Carl in CT : 8/9/2020 10:46 pm : link
When the hell have we ever gotten #1. Pitt and NJ always move to the top
RE: Finalization  
Anakim : 8/9/2020 10:46 pm : link
In comment 14946888 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
of draft lottery tomorrow at 6pm.

One of:

WIN
FLA
MIN
NYR
PIT
EDM
TOR
NSH

will pick Alexis Lafreniere

The teams who do not win will be slotted from 9 to 15 in reverse order of their winning percentage.


Hey, maybe the Senators trade 3 + 5 for the right to pick Lafreniere...:)


Or the Rangers are their usual "smartest people in the room" selves and take Byfield over Laf.
RE: RE: Last ticket  
Anakim : 8/9/2020 10:46 pm : link
In comment 14946895 SJGiant said:
Quote:
In comment 14946882 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


punched for the Stanley Cup playoffs by CBJ.

The Leafs are in the Lafreniere sweepstakes.



Doesn’t Carolina now own this pick?



It's top-10 protected
Calgary looks solid for the West. Or Vegas.  
Route 9 : 8/9/2020 10:48 pm : link
Blues, Meh.
RE: Finalization  
Anakim : 8/9/2020 10:49 pm : link
In comment 14946888 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
of draft lottery tomorrow at 6pm.

One of:

WIN
FLA
MIN
NYR
PIT
EDM
TOR
NSH

will pick Alexis Lafreniere

The teams who do not win will be slotted from 9 to 15 in reverse order of their winning percentage.



If the Rangers don't win the Lottery, at least let the Wild, Predators or Jets win. Florida has picked top-5 numerous times. Oilers have picked top-3 many times. Fuck the Maple Leafs and a huge fuck you to the Penguins.
RE: Rangers?  
Route 9 : 8/9/2020 10:49 pm : link
In comment 14946896 Carl in CT said:
Quote:
When the hell have we ever gotten #1. Pitt and NJ always move to the top


19 - Never
Rangers? It ain't happening lol  
Route 9 : 8/9/2020 10:50 pm : link
This franchise is fucked
I read that if EDM  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 10:51 pm : link
wins there is a good chance they trade it. And OTT was mentioned as a trade partner.

If EDM could get 3 and 5 and have OTT take back James Neal it could be a good trade for both teams (better for EDM IMO).

OTT can stay at 3 and 5 and get Stutzle or Byfield at 3 and Drysdale or Perfetti at 5. Maybe they view that combo as better than Lafreniere - not to mention James Neals cap damage.
At least your not the Leafs  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 10:54 pm : link

Hockey Epic
@Hockey_Epic
·
8m
The #Leafs last 15 years :

Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Lost 1st round
Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Lost 1st round
Lost 1st round
Lost 1st round
Lost Play-In
.  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 10:54 pm : link
*you're*
The Rangers draft order:  
Anakim : 8/9/2020 10:55 pm : link
They'll pick first if they win the Lottery tomorrow

They'll pick 10th if the Jets win the Lottery

They'll pick 11th if neither scenario happens
RE: The Rangers draft order:  
Anakim : 8/9/2020 10:57 pm : link
In comment 14946910 Anakim said:
Quote:
They'll pick first if they win the Lottery tomorrow

They'll pick 10th if the Jets win the Lottery

They'll pick 11th if neither scenario happens


*or Wild. If the Jets or Wild win the Lottery tomorrow, the Rangers pick 10th.
This Torts  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 11:01 pm : link
post-game press conference is typical Torts.

"shit happens" (when asked about the lost 3 goal lead) and Foudy "that kid has balls"

lol.
1st round matchups  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 11:34 pm : link
and 1st game schedule:

Tuesday 8/11
CBJ (E7) vs TBL (E2) 3:00pm
CAL (W6) vs DAL (W3) 5:30pm
CAR (E5) vs BOS (E4) 8:00pm
CHI (W8) vs LVG (W1) 10:30pm

Wednesday 8/12
NYI (E6) vs WAS (E3) 3:00pm
ARI (W7) vs COL (W2) 5:30pm
MTL (E8) vs PHI (E1) 8:00pm
VAN (W5) vs STL (W4) 10:30pm

RE: 1st round matchups  
Route 9 : 8/10/2020 5:25 am : link
In comment 14946919 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
and 1st game schedule:

Tuesday 8/11
CBJ (E7) vs TBL (E2) 3:00pm
CAL (W6) vs DAL (W3) 5:30pm
CAR (E5) vs BOS (E4) 8:00pm
CHI (W8) vs LVG (W1) 10:30pm

Wednesday 8/12
NYI (E6) vs WAS (E3) 3:00pm
ARI (W7) vs COL (W2) 5:30pm
MTL (E8) vs PHI (E1) 8:00pm
VAN (W5) vs STL (W4) 10:30pm


- CBJ is going to give TB fits. CBJ wins in 6.
CBJ vs Tampa Bay enters 4th OT  
Route 9 : 8/11/2020 8:12 pm : link
...
RE: RE: 1st round matchups  
SJGiant : 8/11/2020 8:17 pm : link
In comment 14946944 Route 9 said:
Quote:
In comment 14946919 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


and 1st game schedule:

Tuesday 8/11
CBJ (E7) vs TBL (E2) 3:00pm
CAL (W6) vs DAL (W3) 5:30pm
CAR (E5) vs BOS (E4) 8:00pm
CHI (W8) vs LVG (W1) 10:30pm

Wednesday 8/12
NYI (E6) vs WAS (E3) 3:00pm
ARI (W7) vs COL (W2) 5:30pm
MTL (E8) vs PHI (E1) 8:00pm
VAN (W5) vs STL (W4) 10:30pm




- CBJ is going to give TB fits. CBJ wins in 6.


6th overtime period?
this is nuts  
JayBinQueens : 8/11/2020 8:32 pm : link
both teams are exhausted. Losing goalie will have made at least 54 saves tonight
"These guys are tired. Fans don't understand."  
Route 9 : 8/11/2020 8:32 pm : link
Yeah, we get it.
korpisalo  
KDubbs : 8/11/2020 8:33 pm : link
has been amazing
83 shots on goal  
Route 9 : 8/11/2020 8:38 pm : link
....
Missed this thread  
Anakim : 8/11/2020 8:52 pm : link
Plus I had a brainfart when I made my thread
This 5 OT game is out of control  
dpinzow : 8/11/2020 8:58 pm : link
Could end up being longest game in NHL history if nobody wins it soon. They already had to postpone Boston-Carolina for tomorrow
I was at the Penguins  
pjcas18 : 8/11/2020 9:02 pm : link
Capitals 4 OT playoff game in 1996

I lived in DC at the time and one of my buddies was one of the few die hard Caps fans and wanted to go.

It went on so long I was hung over already by the time it ended because they stopped selling beer like 3 hours before the end

Lemieux ejected out early after beating the snot out of Todd Krygier.

Peter Nedved won it. A lot of talent on that ice that game - mostly on the Pens.

Lemieux, Jagr, Francis, Nedved, Zubov, Bondra, Gonchar, Hunter, Juneau.

this is brutal for the players, but so awesome.

2020 playoffs in 2020 fashion start with an instant classic.
God that game sucked  
Greg from LI : 8/11/2020 9:04 pm : link
I stayed up late to watch it in the hopes of seeing the Penguins go down and not only did they win but Nedved, who I despised, won it.
Hah, surprised they didn't called a phantom penalty there  
Anakim : 8/11/2020 9:19 pm : link
So Atkinson would get a penalty shot
Wow. Epic game. Gotta feel for CBJ  
Anakim : 8/11/2020 9:23 pm : link
But what a snipe by Point
im sad  
KDubbs : 8/11/2020 9:27 pm : link
i wanted to see history. if it was an isles game i would've had a heart attack
Wow. What a game.  
Route 9 : 8/11/2020 9:28 pm : link
If I were Korpisalo I'd murder my whole team.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/11/2020 9:47 pm : link
I don't know if anyone's watching the post-game interviews, but these questions are dog shit.
RE: ....  
Route 9 : 8/11/2020 9:56 pm : link
In comment 14948118 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
I don't know if anyone's watching the post-game interviews, but these questions are dog shit.


The commentary for the 5OT game was dog shit. They were whining about the games being too long, saying there should be shootouts and explaining to us how the players might be tired.

Excellent observations.
did you all see  
KDubbs : 8/11/2020 9:59 pm : link
how close we were to offsides?
Link - ( New Window )
RE: ....  
KDubbs : 8/11/2020 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14948118 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
I don't know if anyone's watching the post-game interviews, but these questions are dog shit.


seth can you tell us what you drink to stay hydrated during a game like that?
2 games so far in the East  
JayBinQueens : 8/12/2020 1:51 pm : link
2 games go to OT

I hope the Isles game isn't pushed back too much
Are Carolina/Boston going to try to one up  
JayBinQueens : 8/12/2020 2:38 pm : link
Tampa Columbus?

Headed to 2nd OT

Bruins start with a little left on the PP
That ice is getting a workout  
Mad Mike : 8/12/2020 2:41 pm : link
*
YES! Bruins win.  
Anakim : 8/12/2020 2:48 pm : link
.
hate the capitals  
KDubbs : 8/12/2020 4:47 pm : link
dirtbags especially 43
Ugly ugly first period  
Metnut : 8/12/2020 4:49 pm : link
happy to still be 0-0
3 unanswered for the good guys.  
BlueHurricane : 8/12/2020 6:11 pm : link
3-2 Isles.
4 unanswered  
BlueHurricane : 8/12/2020 6:19 pm : link
For the good guys.

4-2 isles
woohoo  
KDubbs : 8/12/2020 6:35 pm : link
1 down 3 to go
Big comeback  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/12/2020 8:23 pm : link
Dominated 5v5 but stay out the box.

Caps totally collapsed in 3rd. Swiss cheese in their own end and lazy giveaways. They'll be tighter Friday.
Avs are rolling  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/12/2020 8:26 pm : link
Coyotes didn't belong on the ice with them.
Oh wow. Claude Julien was hospitalized for chest pains.  
Anakim : 8/13/2020 2:44 pm : link
He won't be able to coach Montreal for the remainder of the series.
PJ  
Anakim : 8/13/2020 3:25 pm : link
What's the deal with Max Domi? Why is he playing on their 4th line? The kid is removed from a 70 point year. Is it a similar situation to Galchenyuk?



I wonder if there's a deal to be made with the Rangers. If Montreal is devaluing Domi, Rangers could try to trade for him and use him as their 2C.
Wennberg with a sick goal  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/13/2020 5:50 pm : link
Totally clowned Shattenkirk.
CBJ wins 3-1 to even series.
RE: PJ  
pjcas18 : 8/13/2020 9:17 pm : link
In comment 14949174 Anakim said:
Quote:
What's the deal with Max Domi? Why is he playing on their 4th line? The kid is removed from a 70 point year. Is it a similar situation to Galchenyuk?



I wonder if there's a deal to be made with the Rangers. If Montreal is devaluing Domi, Rangers could try to trade for him and use him as their 2C.


Domi missed all the preparation and practices. He was not going to play due to his health issues (diabetes - like Kakko). He's not a 4th liner. Julien says it's to create balanced lines, but that's lip service. He wants to stay with the lines who practiced together.

Maybe with Julien out Muller will move Domi and Kotkaniemi up in the lineup.
No Pasta  
pjcas18 : 8/13/2020 9:18 pm : link
(unfit to play) no problem so far.

Krejci with a PP goal (on a soft call IMO) has the B's up 1-0
2 quick goals  
pjcas18 : 8/13/2020 9:41 pm : link
from the Canes turns the momentum.
2 - 1 Canes. 3 left in the second.
Krug  
pjcas18 : 8/13/2020 9:46 pm : link
just skated over teurovanian's skates and somehow drew a penalty. Edwards and Brick thought it should be a major because Krug was hurt. WTF LOL.

If Brind'amour thought the NHL was a joke after last game he's got to be going insane right now.
And of course  
pjcas18 : 8/13/2020 9:48 pm : link
the Bruins score on the phantom PP with 3 seconds left in the period.
Canes  
pjcas18 : 8/13/2020 10:13 pm : link
goal waived off for goalie interference (?)
Not one call  
pjcas18 : 8/13/2020 10:14 pm : link
is going the Canes way so far.

What doesn't make sense is if McCauley waives off the goal (and he did so before it went in) it would have to be a penalty, no?

Isn't goalie interference a penalty?
Dougie  
pjcas18 : 8/13/2020 10:25 pm : link
Hamilton with a blast to put CAR up 3 - 2.

Again.

12 min left in the 3rd.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/13/2020 10:29 pm : link
Brutal power play.

What do you think of the Hurricanes goalie strategy? I think it’s a bit weird.
RE: ....  
pjcas18 : 8/13/2020 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14949396 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
Brutal power play.

What do you think of the Hurricanes goalie strategy? I think it’s a bit weird.


CAR looks like they just flat ran into a wall and have zero energy. I don't think much of Mrazek (compared with Reimer), but yeah, no idea what Brind'amour is doing with his goalies.
Great series  
pjcas18 : 8/13/2020 10:47 pm : link
so far as CAR evens it up with BOS.

Actually, most are really good series so far.
Heiskanen  
pjcas18 : 8/13/2020 11:54 pm : link
is so good.

Many future Norris trophies in his future.

with Makar and Hughes, Heiskanen seems to go unnoticed but I think i'd take him over both of them.

two Heiskanen goals has the Stars up 3 - 1 over the Flames almost halfway through the 2nd.
wow I fell asleep  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 9:10 am : link
sounds like a great ending to CAL vs DAL.

CAL comes back with 2 3rd period goals to tie the game at 4, and then DAL scores late to win it.

And Jamie Oleksiak - a most unlikely source for the GW.
Today's games  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 12:53 pm : link
COL vs ARI 2pm on NHLN (COL leads 1 - 0)
MTL vs PHI 3pm on NBCSN (PHI leads 1 - 0)
VAN vs STL 6:30 on NHLN (VAN leads 1 - 0)
NYI vs WAS 8:00 on NBCSN (NYI leads 1 - 0)
DAL vs CAL 10:30 on NBCSN (tied 1 - 1)

PHI and LVG the only teams remaining who haven't lost since the restart (I believe).
Did you see what Rask said?  
BrettNYG10 : 8/14/2020 12:56 pm : link
Said it felt like an exhibition game with no fans.

I like his honesty.
RE: Did you see what Rask said?  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14949605 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
Said it felt like an exhibition game with no fans.

I like his honesty.


Yes, I too like when players speak candidly, but he also said after they went winless in the round robin that it was time for real hockey now that "whatever that was called is over" so seems a little bit of excuse making.

I thought BOS played well, but CAR is a tough team. Solid at the blue line (better than solid actually), skilled up front. I felt like goalie was their Achilles heel, but the D has helped cover up the weakness and have to give Mrazek and Reimer credit so far, nothing going in that shouldn't go in.
Tatar  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 3:12 pm : link
opens the scoring for MTL just over 1 min in
Kotkaniemi  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 3:29 pm : link
bangs home a rebound from the doorstep

Habs up 2 - 0, under 7 left in the 1st.

Shots  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 3:30 pm : link
in the first so far, MTL 11 PHI 0.

Maybe losing Julien breathed some life into the Habs.

Hope they don't hit a wall, this PHI team is very talented and can score quickly.
PHI too many men  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 3:33 pm : link
MTL to the PP.

It's almost like a game in Vegas how unprepared PHI was for this start.
1 down  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 3:45 pm : link
2 - 0 MTL.

Phantom holding call on PHI so MTL on the PP to start the 2nd for 1:53.
COL  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 3:48 pm : link
and ARI tied at 2 after 2.

entertaining game (watched it in between Habs game)
The only  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 3:50 pm : link
habs forwards with more ice time than Domi are Drouin and Suzuki.

Only major change I've seen between Julien and Muller.
Tatar  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 4:04 pm : link
on the PP, MTL up 3 - 0.
MTL fighting themselves  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 4:10 pm : link
two dumb penalties and now it's a 5 on 3 for 1:38
MTL  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 4:16 pm : link
kills it, but momentum has shifted to PHI.

Still 3 - 0, 11:29 left in the second.
Max  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 4:20 pm : link
Domi a major factor in this game.

Julien is going to look really bad if the Habs hold on.

Domi is all over the ice.
Avs  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 4:25 pm : link
go up 3 - 2 with under 3 left in the 3rd. Harmless shot juicy rebound to Burakovsky, he buries it.
Avs  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 4:35 pm : link
hold up, they're up 2 - 0 in the series.

very entertaining game.
Armia  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 4:36 pm : link
throws it to the net and looked like it went off a D skate.

MTL up 4 - 0.

Carter Hart out.
Just as I praised him  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 4:40 pm : link
Domi runs Elliott (who replaced Hart) and a melee ensues.

Domi the only one to the box.

No need for that.
RE: Avs  
John In CO : 8/14/2020 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14949752 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
hold up, they're up 2 - 0 in the series.

very entertaining game.


Really good game, watched it while...working. 75% Game 25% work:). Great pace by both teams all game. I knew AZ would come out guns blazing after dropping game 1 but even with that, they surprised me...not sure whether they can take it to a higher level than they showed today. Guess we will see.
Kotkaniemi  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 5:17 pm : link
with a beauty on the PP, up 5 - 0.
Avs are just too good.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/14/2020 5:22 pm : link
WTF Philly lol
RE: Avs  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/14/2020 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14949752 pjcas18 said:
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hold up, they're up 2 - 0 in the series.

very entertaining game.


Agree. Ludicrous speed in that game. Fun to watch.
Habs  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 5:47 pm : link
closed it out, Price with the shutout.

Nice showing for MTL, even in the loss game 1, they're showing they can play with anyone.

Vigneault calls out Hayes, Giroux, Voracek, etc (not by name), and as I mentioned earlier - this is the Flyers first loss since return to play.
.  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 6:55 pm : link
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Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
· 1h
Alain Vigneault didn't like that Kirk Muller put his No. 1 power play on the ice late in the game: "We had embarassed ourselves enough. I'm not sure we needed to be embarassed more."

Adds that he'll be sure to point that out to his players.


You are reaching for bulletin board material. The habs were one of two teams who did not score a PP goal in the first round and moved on.

VAN  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 7:42 pm : link
up 2 - 0 on the defending champs with 4 min gone in the second (up in the series 1 - 0)

love the Canucks skill. they have a sneaky good team, young core.
Ryan O'Reilly  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 8:32 pm : link
takes a pass from Cyril and cuts the Canucks lead in half.

2 - 1 VAN after 2.

In the other current game, Ovie puts the Caps on the board first. Under 8 left in the first.
Pettersson  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 8:51 pm : link
extends the Canucks lead to 3 - 1 with a PPG, 12 left in the 3rd.
Sammy Blais  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 8:59 pm : link
with the steal off an Edler give away (while Edler took an uncalled stick to the face) and buries it.

Lead down to 1 with 8 and a half left.

This is a physical game.
wow  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 9:15 pm : link
Pietrangelo scores with 6 seconds left to tie it.

Refs looking at itm but I don't think it was a high stick
Not pietrangelo he shot it but  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 9:16 pm : link
it was tipped by perron, but looked good to me.
Good goal  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 9:17 pm : link
tied between VAN and STL with 6 seconds left
Isles come out storming...  
trueblueinpw : 8/14/2020 9:17 pm : link
yay?
Ovie scores...  
trueblueinpw : 8/14/2020 9:19 pm : link
yay?


After two  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 9:20 pm : link
second period goals, NYI missed a gimme (Komarov) and Ovi scores the other way to tie it at 2.
Nelson  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 9:20 pm : link
answers quickly, NYI up 3 - 2
Nelie puts one in...  
trueblueinpw : 8/14/2020 9:22 pm : link
it’s a scorin’ orgy in the 2nd.
This game is wild....  
Metnut : 8/14/2020 9:23 pm : link
Isles don’t look outmatched at all. Gotta keep it up!
I’ve played a lot of hockey...  
trueblueinpw : 8/14/2020 9:33 pm : link
Never played with a guy who could speak 5 languages.
RE: I’ve played a lot of hockey...  
Anakim : 8/14/2020 9:34 pm : link
In comment 14949920 trueblueinpw said:
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Never played with a guy who could speak 5 languages.


Zibanejad may speak 5 languages. I know he's fluent in English, Swedish Finnish and Farsi. There may be another.
amazing  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 9:37 pm : link
save by Markstrom
Hughes  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 9:41 pm : link
to Horvat who snipes the OT GW.

VAN up 2 - 0 in the series.
Cracks me up the Isles play on MSG...  
trueblueinpw : 8/14/2020 9:41 pm : link
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RE: Hughes  
trueblueinpw : 8/14/2020 9:43 pm : link
In comment 14949928 pjcas18 said:
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to Horvat who snipes the OT GW.

VAN up 2 - 0 in the series.


5 hole. I totally forgot to switch back to OT.
RE: RE: Hughes  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 9:45 pm : link
In comment 14949930 trueblueinpw said:
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In comment 14949928 pjcas18 said:


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to Horvat who snipes the OT GW.

VAN up 2 - 0 in the series.



5 hole. I totally forgot to switch back to OT.


what channel are you watching? I'm on NBCSN and they switched it automatically.
RE: RE: RE: Hughes  
trueblueinpw : 8/14/2020 9:49 pm : link
In comment 14949933 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14949930 trueblueinpw said:


Quote:


In comment 14949928 pjcas18 said:


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to Horvat who snipes the OT GW.

VAN up 2 - 0 in the series.



5 hole. I totally forgot to switch back to OT.



what channel are you watching? I'm on NBCSN and they switched it automatically.


MSG, no idea why tbh, I started over NBCSN.
Bowie big time  
trueblueinpw : 8/14/2020 9:59 pm : link
Something about Horvat reminds me of Messier - obviously a long way to go to come anywhere near that career. But there’s something about the way he skates that reminds me of Mess.
Horvat is awesome  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 10:03 pm : link
on a team with so much skill, he definitely stands out as the leader. He can do it all.

25 year old team captain.

I can see the similarities with Messier in style, if not yet substance.
RE: Horvat is awesome  
trueblueinpw : 8/14/2020 10:15 pm : link
In comment 14949955 pjcas18 said:
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on a team with so much skill, he definitely stands out as the leader. He can do it all.

25 year old team captain.

I can see the similarities with Messier in style, if not yet substance.


I‘m sure Canuck fans would curse my name for the mere mention of such a comparison. Forgot about how much they hate Mess out there.
Ovi  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 10:23 pm : link
doesn't miss that often
Those last two minutes by the Isles were tremendous.  
BlueHurricane : 8/14/2020 10:39 pm : link
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Total  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 10:40 pm : link
dominance by the Islanders here on the forecheck.

It's like a clinic.

pays off with a goal pushing the lead to 2.

Best way to keep your opponent from scoring...keep the puck in the offensive zone. Such an impressive cycle/effort. I think the Islanders even changed lines and kept possession.
ENG  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 10:41 pm : link
seals it. Will lead the series 2 - 0
2 down  
KDubbs : 8/14/2020 10:45 pm : link
2 to go. rock the barn on sunday
that was the best full court press i've seen in a long time  
Eric on Li : 8/14/2020 10:46 pm : link
Caps looked visibly frustrated the entire time leading up to the 4th goal. Greene and JGP added so much more depth to this lineup to roll 4 lines/3 pairs and with all guys who fit Trotz' system. Varlamov made some really good saves early and then the forecheck/counter attack just wore the Caps down.

It seems like the more the Caps try to play a chippy game the more it plays into the Islanders type of a game.
Jones is great at the studio role...  
trueblueinpw : 8/14/2020 10:53 pm : link
I don’t watch a lot of studio talk but he’s sharp.
Caps blew their load in the first period  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/14/2020 10:54 pm : link
Wilson/ovi and company tried to run every isle they could into next week. All it got them was penalties.

I think the "best 4th line in hockey" is pretty much washed, but they were great tonight.

Brock has been reborn hard under trotz. Went from being a streaky scorer with a great wrist shot to a really solid 2 way center.

If the Isles had even a middle of the pack PP they'd be a legit contender.
the best 4th line guys know this is their last playoffs together  
Eric on Li : 8/14/2020 11:13 pm : link
and they barely even got through this season in 1 piece. The extended lay off probably helped those 3 guys more than anyone.

just saw the box score, Pageau was 17-6 on FO's. That trade really worked out.
No Tkachuk  
pjcas18 : 8/14/2020 11:15 pm : link
for CAL (injured last night), DAL forwards will skate with more freedom.

I must have missed the memo.  
St. Jimmy : 8/15/2020 12:29 am : link
I missed half the Islander game to
fast forward throw the Blues Canucks game. It was 2-1 before I saw a goal scored.
Rask has opted out of return to play.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/15/2020 10:26 am : link
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RE: Rask has opted out of return to play.  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2020 11:06 am : link
In comment 14950079 BrettNYG10 said:
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Probably the right call, he didn't play badly, and I don't think the loss to CAR Thursday (or the round robin results) are on him, but clearly his head was not in it and he said he wasn't in shape.

Not much drop off to Halak IMO.
Flames  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2020 11:08 am : link
win (I fell asleep, so can't comment on it).

They lead 2-1 over DAL.
Today's games  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2020 11:11 am : link
BOS vs CAR at 12:00 PM on NBC, series tied at 1
COL vs ARI at 3:00 PM on CNBC (?), Avs up 2 - 0
TBL vs CBJ at 7:30 PM on NBCSN, series tied at 1
LVG vs CHI at 8:00 PM on NBC, vegas up 2 - 0
Games in the east will be fun today.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/15/2020 11:13 am : link
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Looked like the Bruins  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2020 1:17 pm : link
caught a break on the goal replay. Brind'amour must be apoplectic, the refs are not doing the canes any favors in this series.

Other than that, just solid goaltending, good period.
RE: Looked like the Bruins  
BrettNYG10 : 8/15/2020 1:32 pm : link
In comment 14950157 pjcas18 said:
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caught a break on the goal replay. Brind'amour must be apoplectic, the refs are not doing the canes any favors in this series.

Other than that, just solid goaltending, good period.


I missed the play you’re talking about, but the Canes have been on the wrong side of every single toss-up call.
hopefully the zebras keep bending the canes over...  
Torrag : 8/15/2020 1:49 pm : link
we want that carolina draft pick as high as possible.

ARI  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2020 6:04 pm : link
cuts the Avs series lead to 2 - 1.

Didn't see any of this game, I don't have that channel and didn't feel like streaming - I had too much work to do.

TBL vs CBJ coming up at 7:30
TBL up 3 - 1  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2020 9:20 pm : link
on CBJ end of 2. and the game isn't as close as the score.


Dimitri Filipovic
@DimFilipovic
· 2m
That 2nd period by the Tampa Bay Lightning was complete and utter domination..

•Shot attempts 37-7
•Shots on goal 16-4
•High danger chances 7-0
CBJ  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2020 9:48 pm : link
showing some fight, cut the lead to 1, now trail 3 - 2 halfway through the 3rd.

LVG up on CHI 2 - 0, can go up 3 - 0
TBL  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2020 10:04 pm : link
holds on, wins 3 - 2 they are up 2 - 1 in the series now.
looked like  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2020 10:16 pm : link
a softie allowed by MAF on the Maatta shot.

CHI cuts the lead to 1. 2 - 1 13 left in the 3rd.
Great day of hockey.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/15/2020 10:54 pm : link
Lightning are going to get worn out by CBJ if they go 7.
Todays games  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 7:41 am : link
NYI vs WAS at 12:00pm on USA, NYI leads 2 - 0
DAL vs CAL at 02:00pm on CNBC, CAL leads 2 - 1
LVG vs CHI at 06:30pm on NBCSN, LVG leads 3 - 0
MTL vs PHI at 08:00pm on NBC, tied 1 - 1
VAN vs STL at 10:30pm on NBCSN, VAN leads 2 - 0

Another grate slate of games. we're all going to be spoiled after this year when they go back to the old way of travel days and milking the playoffs.
Spoiled isn't exactly a word I'd like to use  
Route 9 : 8/16/2020 9:01 am : link
anytime soon. What a disaster this year has been.
RE: Spoiled isn't exactly a word I'd like to use  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 9:08 am : link
In comment 14950424 Route 9 said:
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anytime soon. What a disaster this year has been.


good point.
RE: Todays games  
Route 9 : 8/16/2020 9:13 am : link
In comment 14950403 pjcas18 said:
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NYI vs WAS at 12:00pm on USA, NYI leads 2 - 0
DAL vs CAL at 02:00pm on CNBC, CAL leads 2 - 1
LVG vs CHI at 06:30pm on NBCSN, LVG leads 3 - 0
MTL vs PHI at 08:00pm on NBC, tied 1 - 1
VAN vs STL at 10:30pm on NBCSN, VAN leads 2 - 0


"Moving forward"

NY Islanders win today and series, probably sweep
Colorado wins this series
Vegas wins in 6
Philly wins series in 6 or 7
Vancouver, what the fuck? Up 2-0 on the defending champions? Canucks win in 5.
Classless  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 10:38 am : link
piece of shit homer. As much as I hate the Bruins, I can't stand Jack Edwards even more.

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Jack Edwards
@RealJackEdwards
What NBC hasn’t shown yet, regarding the unfortunate injury to Svechnikov: the Carolina wing playing hobby-horse, riding Chara on the back apron of the goal. You poke the bear, you take your chances. No one wanted to see Svechnikov hurt, but he bit off more than he could chew.
3:01 PM · Aug 15, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
A little bit  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 12:26 pm : link
surprised the Caps didn't switch to Samsonov, and it's not that Holtby has played badly, he just hasn't stolen any games.

Which it seems like the Caps will need the way the NYI are playing.
JGP  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 12:29 pm : link
is money on the face-offs and already drew a penalty.

Nice deadline acquisition.
NYI  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 12:38 pm : link
just outworking Caps, nice shot pass to Lee who redirects it nicely past Holtby.

1 - 0 NYI
RE: A little bit  
Mike in NY : 8/16/2020 12:40 pm : link
In comment 14950478 pjcas18 said:
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surprised the Caps didn't switch to Samsonov, and it's not that Holtby has played badly, he just hasn't stolen any games.

Which it seems like the Caps will need the way the NYI are playing.


I thought Samsonov was hurt
RE: A little bit  
KDubbs : 8/16/2020 12:40 pm : link
In comment 14950478 pjcas18 said:
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surprised the Caps didn't switch to Samsonov, and it's not that Holtby has played badly, he just hasn't stolen any games.

Which it seems like the Caps will need the way the NYI are playing.


samsonov didnt go to bubble cause he got hurt, is he back?
oh  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 12:43 pm : link
you guys are probably right, I didn't realize Samsonov was hurt, he probably would have played over Holtby.
the isles have played their best hockey of Trotz era in the bubble  
Eric on Li : 8/16/2020 1:01 pm : link
they are going to be an annoying match up for anyone. The faceoff thing is really an interesting new factor that helps reduce defensive zone time for their already strong defense.

On the season (and in the playoffs so far):

JGP was 56% (59% playoffs so far)
Czikas was 54% (37% playoffs so far)
Nelson was 52% (52% playoffs so far)
Barzal/Lee were sub 45% (Barzal is 57% in the playoffs so far)

In the regular season Brassard was their 4th C at 55% so the JGP pickup really stacked some depth in the FO circle.
Wilson leaves his feet on every attempted hit  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/16/2020 1:03 pm : link
He's such a scumbag.
RE: Wilson leaves his feet on every attempted hit  
Eric on Li : 8/16/2020 1:07 pm : link
In comment 14950495 Diversify yo bonds said:
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He's such a scumbag.


Staple had an interview with Lubo Visnovsky yesterday and I rewatched the 2015 hit for the first time in a while - anyone on the Caps side calling the Lee hit "predatory" is a hypocrite of the highest order.
Lee's hit was dangerous  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 1:18 pm : link
not sure why you can say our guy is dirty so that means your guys hit wasn't dirty.

Wilson is probably the dirtiest player in the league, but that hit by Lee on Backstrom was suspension worthy IMO.

RE: Lee's hit was dangerous  
Eric on Li : 8/16/2020 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14950499 pjcas18 said:
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not sure why you can say our guy is dirty so that means your guys hit wasn't dirty.

Wilson is probably the dirtiest player in the league, but that hit by Lee on Backstrom was suspension worthy IMO.


I disagree - penalty worthy of course. Textbook interference bc the puck wasn't there. But the hit was not dirty hit and would not have been penalized if the puck had been there. It was not to the head, he didn't leave his feet, and he kept his arms and stick down. The hit itself was a clean hit though the play wasn't (as is the case with any penalty).
and my issue was with anyone on the caps calling it "predatory"  
Eric on Li : 8/16/2020 1:32 pm : link
predatory insinuates the guy was intentionally trying to injure - which is something Lee has no reputation of and if his intent were to injure he could have easily been a lot more reckless by doing any one of the more dangerous things the league has rightfully cracked down on but which were present with Wilson's hit on Lubo (and his many others).

Calling it dangerous is fine, it's playoff hockey. Hard hits are part of the playoffs same as hard fouls are part of the playoffs in basketball and sometimes it's dangerous. There were lots of dangerous hits in SF January 2012. Assigning a motive to injure when you're coaching Tom Wilson is the hypocrisy.
I'm not going to debate it beyond  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 1:40 pm : link
this, I don't expect you to agree, you're a fan of the team of the guy who gave the hit. So even if you say you're trying to be objective you are not. I don't think it's really possible. I have no interest either way, don't care about either team or either player.

Backstrom was defenseless, he was not expecting the hit and Lee had time to pull off and instead lead into him. Half the penalties in hockey wouldn't be penalties if the puck was there, that's a weird way to try and defend the hit.

It's exactly the type of hit they're trying to get out of hockey - at all levels. In my last coaching clinic (last September) the head of USA hockey said hits like that (blind side hits to unexpectant recipients) would be ejections at the lower levels to change behavior and encourage players to only hit to separate someone from the puck.

I don't like to ever try and project intent, so I won't but if that was Wilson who gave the hit with his history, a suspension would have been likely, though with the playoffs you never know, the league is inconsistent and sometimes hesitant to suspend players in the playoffs.

IMO that was a dirty hit, and Lee should have gotten a game.
I think your opinion is fair & we seem to agree on my original post  
Eric on Li : 8/16/2020 1:47 pm : link
where my issue was specifically with the Caps calling the hit predatory (which to me implies an intent to injure).

whether the hit itself deserved a 1 game suspension is a separate and debatable either way and honestly all I'd argue there is it should get whatever punishment other hits like it from players without a track record of discipline issues have received.
Good two periods  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 1:47 pm : link
so far, god chances at both ends.

WAS really playing for their lives in the 3rd, see how they come out. If they come out fast, and NYI weather the storm it could be over.
I hate that call  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 2:16 pm : link
you should be able to slash someone's stick without getting a penalty even if you break it.

I get it's easy to get the hands, but if you don't you don't. Sometimes the effort to prevent injuries changes the game too much IMO.

If you want to discourage behavior, make the slash on the hands a major.
AV  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 2:21 pm : link
pulling out all the stops, bringing Lindblom to the team skate.

I love the story, so I hate to question AV's motives, but he's a wily veteran coach. Publicly calling out Muller for the PP1 unit and now this, he's trying to get the stink and embarrassment of last game off his team and turn it into revenge/inspiration.

Well done AV.
Overtime  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 2:35 pm : link
in NYI vs WAS.

Good period, both goalies solid. Not a ton of room in the middle of the ice.
anyone else think  
ColHowPepper : 8/16/2020 2:42 pm : link
Isles have been way too selective in the offensive end and have foregone getting the puck on net, making Holtby make saves? That said, for most part Caps d-men playing pretty good positional hockey.
RE: anyone else think  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 2:47 pm : link
In comment 14950554 ColHowPepper said:
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Isles have been way too selective in the offensive end and have foregone getting the puck on net, making Holtby make saves? That said, for most part Caps d-men playing pretty good positional hockey.


On that Beauvilier play near the end of the period absolutely, but I think the puck was bouncing.

In typical Trotz team style, there just hasn't been a ton of chances. Not many odd man rushes (either way).

What a save  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 2:55 pm : link
by Varlamov at one end and Barzal ends it at the other.
Barzy  
BlueHurricane : 8/16/2020 2:55 pm : link
3-0!!!
RE: anyone else think  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/16/2020 2:55 pm : link
In comment 14950554 ColHowPepper said:
Quote:
Isles have been way too selective in the offensive end and have foregone getting the puck on net, making Holtby make saves? That said, for most part Caps d-men playing pretty good positional hockey.


The Trotz Isles are very cognizant of quality over quantity. Low danger throw it at the net stuff is often equivalent to a turnover.

It's part of the reason why certain shot based fancy stats don't favor them. They are dominant in high danger chances for. Something like 72% in the series so far.
Pavelski  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 2:57 pm : link
scores 1st for DAL, and they lead CAL 1 - 0.

CAL up 2 - 1 in that series.
Great play by Barzal.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/16/2020 2:59 pm : link
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Barzal  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 3:04 pm : link
"we love it here in the bubble"

I heard the same from Bruins Joakim Nordstrom.

It is kind of cool, for a short period of time. If you don't have a family I guess.
yea definitely a different experience for young guys  
Eric on Li : 8/16/2020 3:08 pm : link
probably feels like traveling youth tournaments. I think Bailey has a newborn so he probably has slightly different thoughts.

Gotta think that's a back breaker for Washington. Not just that they lost but that the Isles again controlled the better of the game.

Natural stat trick had the isles at:
57% corsi (even when they win they usually lose here)
69% high danger chances
70% expected goals for

Pretty dominant effort against what should have been a more desperate team.
we go from 23yrs  
KDubbs : 8/16/2020 3:11 pm : link
without winning a rd, finally breaking it to 7-0 in rd 1 under trotz so far. I like that.
Stars  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 3:22 pm : link
Flames looks like a crazy game, but I don't have it on TV. At least I don't think I do.

Stars took a 1 - 0 lead into the 2nd. Then Flames tied, it, Stars re-took the lead, Flames tied it - all within about 3 min.

tied at 2 with 13 min left in the 2nd.
Actually  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 3:24 pm : link
I do have CNBC. Who knew.

Watching Stars vs Flames now.

Lucic  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 3:35 pm : link
shoots for the rebound and Bennett capitalizes, Flames up 3 - 2.

Stars  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 3:47 pm : link
score on a PP, to even it up (Gurianov), and now the Stars are going back to the PP.

Looked like a soft call.
RE: we go from 23yrs  
tony stg : 8/16/2020 3:48 pm : link
In comment 14950567 KDubbs said:
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without winning a rd, finally breaking it to 7-0 in rd 1 under trotz so far. I like that.

I’m disappointed in the Caps, but I’m not as upset as I’d normally be since it’s Trotz doing it to them. Trotz will always be one of my guys.

Another SH  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 4:12 pm : link
goal for CAL, and they take the lead 4 - 3.

Radulov got lazy (sounds like a movie I've seen before as a Habs fan).
DAL  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 4:21 pm : link
to the PP again, right where CAL wants them.
RE: Great play by Barzal.  
ColHowPepper : 8/16/2020 4:39 pm : link
In comment 14950563 BrettNYG10 said:
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At game speed it looked like he was on top of Holtby and didn't have any space to pull the puck back to his backhand, clear of the GK. On replays, you look at how close he was to GK and think how could Holtby not knock the puck off Barzal's stick with his. I guess that's how fast Barzal is.
Roope  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 4:41 pm : link
Hintz (one of my favorite young players) to the net, Dickinson cleans up the garbage, tie game (pending review)
Overturned  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 4:44 pm : link
due to goalie interference. Maybe the right call.

Empty net now for the Stars down 1. A minute left.
Stars  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 4:47 pm : link
tie it with 11 seconds left, Pavelski with the hat trick.

What a game.
wow, close to offsides  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 4:53 pm : link
after review, goal was confirmed, and we're on to OT (after resurface)
Flames  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 5:17 pm : link
playing tic tac toe in OT, Gaudreau doesn't miss that one often. Great save by Khudobin.
Klinberg  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 5:31 pm : link
wins it in OT. Series tied 2 - 2.

great game.
CHI trying to fight  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 7:09 pm : link
off elimination up 1 - 0 on LVG halfway through the first.

Vegas  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 8:22 pm : link
dominating everywhere but the scoreboard.

outshooting CHI 36 - 15 end of 2, but down 2 - 1.

trying to close out the series.
MTL  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 8:23 pm : link
vs PHI puck drop, expect a pissed of PHI team.
PHI scores  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 8:30 pm : link
first off a strange bounce, 1 - 0 5 min in.
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 8:39 pm : link
banging posts, but haven't scored yet on Hart who they chased last game.

Now PHI to the PP
End of 1 in Toronto  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 9:02 pm : link
PHI still leads 1 - 0. Several power plays for PHI, none for MTL, maybe it will even out later. Only 1 questionable call.

In Edmonton, CHI still clinging to the 1 goal lead and their playoff lives. 5 min left and being outshot 43 to 21, it doesn't always indicate being dominated, but from when I've watched they absolutely are.
Vegas  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 9:09 pm : link
net empty, 1 min left.
Debrincat  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 9:12 pm : link
ices it with the ENG and Pacioretty makes him pay. late. lol.
Not a big Corey Crawford  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 9:16 pm : link
fan, but he stole a game tonight.

too big a hole for CHI to crawl out of down 3 - 1 now, but better than losing.
Not a ton  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 9:49 pm : link
of shots, but Carter Hart has been fantastic so far.

PHI still up, 1 - 0, under 3 left in the second.
Good game so far in TOR  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 9:55 pm : link
PHI up 1 - 0 over MTL after 2.
STL  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 10:11 pm : link
in danger.

Matt Smith
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No Tarasenko, no Steen in warmup for the #stlblues
, Jake Allen starting in goal. #NHLPlayoffs #StanleyCup
90 seconds  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 10:48 pm : link
left in TOR.

MTL still down a goal. Price is out of the net for the extra attacker.
Honestly  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 10:48 pm : link
it's a good game, but a little boring. Not a ton of chances.

let's see if we can get an OT.
PHI holds  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2020 10:53 pm : link
on, wins 1 - 0 to take a 2 - 1 series lead.

People complain about MTL being even included in the restart and maybe they shouldn't have been, but they are showing they can hang with anyone. PHI has their hands full.
Sounds  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 8:43 am : link
like a missed a good one in EDM.

STL cuts the VAN lead in half to 2 - 1 with an OT win.

4 games today  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 8:46 am : link
TBL vs CBJ at 03:00pm on NBCSN, TBL leads series 2 - 1
COL vs ARI at 05:30pm on NBCSN, COL leads series 2 - 1
BOS vs CAR at 08:00pm on NBCSN, BOS leads series 2 - 1 - unfortunately I will get NESN and have to hear Jack Edwards.
STL vs VAN back at it again at 10:30pm on NBCSN, VAN leads series 2 - 1
.  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 2:13 pm : link
Incredible.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/17/2020 2:54 pm : link
I'm still surprised they're pulling it off.
I can't believe Bettman did such a good job  
Eric on Li : 8/17/2020 3:03 pm : link
is he the best commissioner in sports right now? I know most would say Silver, and while I think he's good he hasn't really been tested all that much. The most difficult thing he dealt with was the china fiasco and I think most would say he didn't do well with that (that's probably kind).
RE: PHI holds  
BillKo : 8/17/2020 3:32 pm : link
In comment 14950805 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
on, wins 1 - 0 to take a 2 - 1 series lead.

People complain about MTL being even included in the restart and maybe they shouldn't have been, but they are showing they can hang with anyone. PHI has their hands full.


I watched the entire game, MTL was the better team. Had many more scoring chances, hit the post 4x. Hart might be really good, but he's been very fortunate. And some of the scoring chances were shot right into his gut (yes I know positioning is important).

The Flyers only goal was a fluke type bounce in and they've scored just three goals in three games.
RE: Incredible.  
BillKo : 8/17/2020 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14951222 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
I'm still surprised they're pulling it off.


They're doing a great job, but when you live in a bubble I sorta expect things to go this way........you are severly limiting any mistakes a bonehead could make...........
hope I didnt jinx the isles  
KDubbs : 8/17/2020 3:34 pm : link
bout a projector and 120" screen to have social distancing isles parties for rd 2
After a scoreless  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 4:03 pm : link
1st, TBL scores 16 seconds into the 2nd.

They lead 1 - 0.

CBJ has won every faceoff so far in this game. 12 - 0.
Shattenkirk  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 4:08 pm : link
blast, tipped by Gourde, into the net.

TBL up 2 - 0.

Rare bad play/turnover by Seth Jones.
Werenski  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 4:13 pm : link
to Dubois, and Atkinson cleans up the rebound

CBJ cuts the lead in half, pending review.
RE: Werenski  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 4:14 pm : link
In comment 14951312 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
to Dubois, and Atkinson cleans up the rebound

CBJ cuts the lead in half, pending review.


no challenge by TBL - good goal, 2 - 1.
TBL  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 5:32 pm : link
hangs on, takes a commanding 3 - 1 series lead.
Avs  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 6:19 pm : link
jump out to a 2 - 0 lead with 2 min left in the 1st.

Watching Cale Makar is a lot of fun, so smooth.

With Makar, Hughes, Dahlin, Heiskanen, Fox, so many elite skating young defenseman in the league right now.
3 - 0  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 6:22 pm : link
Kadri the last two.
Holy shit  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 7:39 pm : link
Makar

coast to coast, beats Rantaa who replaced Kuemper, Avs up 5 - 1.
Holy shit  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 7:43 pm : link
MacKinnon.

wheels around the offensive zone, no one can catch him, dishes in front to Calvert who scores on his own rebound.

6 - 1 Avs.

game over, series likely over.
Video  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 7:56 pm : link
of Makar
link - ( New Window )
Old man Williams  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 8:28 pm : link
puts the Canes up 1 - 0,

No Svechnikov, no Pasta.
Looks like  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 9:28 pm : link
Halak lost his net and Martinook makes him pay from a usually safe angle.

CAR up 2 - 0, 7 and a half left in the 2nd.
A lot of goals  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 9:42 pm : link
being left on the ice by goal scorers.

Bergeron and Krejci missed gimmes for Boston and Necas for Carolina.

90 seconds left in the second, still 2 - 0 canes.
No idea  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 10:16 pm : link
what Reimer was thinking there. Comes out to play a puck and debrusk beats him to it and scores to cut the lead to 1. 2 - 1 Canes with 12+ left in the 3rd.
McAvoy  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 10:23 pm : link
hits Staal so hard he just goes right to the locker room. Seemed like just a good hit.

Quinnipiac alum Connor Clifton seizes the momentum and ties it up with a top shelf blast from just outside the face off dot.

tie game, under 10 left.
Here is the McAvoy  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 10:25 pm : link
hit
link - ( New Window )
Stretch  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 10:27 pm : link
pass from Krug to Marchand, he doesn't miss.

Bruins up 3 - 2.

Shut out the lights this is over.

Canes turtled.

Bruins look best they have all playoffs.
4-2.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/17/2020 10:30 pm : link
This third period is just dominance.
4-2  
Mike in NY : 8/17/2020 10:30 pm : link
Louie Jr,
CAR  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 10:31 pm : link
never came out for the 3rd period.

A game they were leading by 2 goals, there is just over 5 min left in the period and they don't have a shot on net.

debrusk scores again, like going through butter.

Bruins up 4 - 2.
15 - 0  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 10:33 pm : link
shots on goal in the 3rd for the Bruins.

3 min left in the period, Canes don't have a shot on net.
Canes  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 10:40 pm : link
make the 1st shot count.

cut the 4 - 2 lead to 1. Down a goal with 40 seconds left, net empty
I totally  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 10:48 pm : link
forgot Reimer was the Leafs goalie in that epic game 7 collapse against the Bruins.

he should just not play 3rd periods against Boston ever again. and he initiated the whole momentum turn with that ridiculous attempt to play the puck.
Outside of the first goal, I don't think any of the others were  
BrettNYG10 : 8/17/2020 10:55 pm : link
His fault.

Brutal loss.
RE: Outside of the first goal, I don't think any of the others were  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 10:59 pm : link
In comment 14951603 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
His fault.

Brutal loss.


they weren't his fault besides that one, but you know how momentum works. The Canes were back on their heels all period, but the Bruins still hadn't scored until that time. That first goal (and the McAvoy hit), definitely put some jump in the Bruins.
Absolutely.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/17/2020 11:09 pm : link
That Staal hit in particular felt like a turning point the second he hobbled off the ice.

I hope he's alright. Looked clean to me, but I didn't watch the replays closely.
Mayhem  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 11:20 pm : link
aka Ryan O'Reilly scores on the PP to put the Blues on the board 1st. 1 - 0 STL, 3 min left in the 1st.

SC hero Binnington, still on the bench in favor of Jake Allen.
JT Miller  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2020 11:55 pm : link
evens it up, but then ROR scores again, to put the Blues back in the lead.
LOL, these rink rats  
ColHowPepper : 8/18/2020 9:01 am : link
love it
Blues  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 10:27 am : link
held on to even the series at 2 (not going to lie, I fell asleep).

Today's game:

PHI vs MTL at 03:00pm on NBCSN, PHI Leads the series 2 - 1
CAL vs DAL at 05:30pm on NBCSN, Series tied 2 - 2
NYI vs WAS at 08:00pm on NBCSN, NYI leads 3 - 0
CHI vs LVG at 10:30pm om NBCSN, LVG leads, 3 - 1




RIP  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 2:35 pm : link
Dale Hawerchuk.

Cancer sucks.
Real goalie battle  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 2:45 pm : link
with MTL vs PHI.

Price has allowed 3 goals in 3 games, and the Habs are down 2 - 1.

MTL  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 4:00 pm : link
now at 4 periods without a goal.

Down 1 - 0 after one, definitely had chances.
Price picked  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 4:29 pm : link
an awful time to lose focus.

paddled into his own net.

2 - 0 PHI, under 3 left in the 2nd.
almost 5 and a half  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 5:08 pm : link
periods for the Canadiens without a goal.
This game  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 5:28 pm : link
is over. PHI to the PP, MTL going to go 6 periods without a goal.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/18/2020 5:30 pm : link
I wouldn't be encouraged by this performance if I was a Flyers fan.
MTL has allowed  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 5:34 pm : link
5 goals in 4 games and they're losing 3 - 1.

I bet that's the first time in history.

Before today they were the first team in history to allow 3 goals in 3 games and be down 2 - 1.

RE: .....  
Kyle in NY : 8/18/2020 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14952239 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
I wouldn't be encouraged by this performance if I was a Flyers fan.


Yeah I'm getting serious PTSD watching an AV team lean on the goalie and shot blocking to close out close playoff games. I don't think they're a serious threat for the cup, they haven't impressed much in this series despite the lead
Oh and not to mention  
Kyle in NY : 8/18/2020 5:46 pm : link
an absolutely awful power play
I didn't watch much of the Flyers  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 5:53 pm : link
this year, but they remind me a little of the mid-90's Devils.

Boring, but effective at clogging the center of the ice, limiting chances, and solid in net and in front of the net - not many 2nd chance opportunities for MTL. Hart will get the credit for back to back shutouts, and should, but MTL had just a handful of high danger chances.

Like game 2 though in this series, if your skill/hustle can beat them it can get ugly and MTL chased Hart in the 2nd period, but otherwise not fun hockey to watch.

MTL in the series has outscored PHI 6 - 5 and are down 3 - 1. LOL.

I do not put the Flyers in the Bruins, Lightning or Islanders class right now (and I thought they would be). The Islanders play similar in some regards, but are MUCH deeper, and their skill players have more speed.

Best thing for MTL is Kotkaniemi has been great all series, Suzuki has flashed, and Weber and Price have been MTL's best players.

Just need a couple more players - a top 6 forward and a top 4 D. Romanov could be the D. Taylor Hall at F?
The Flyers were playing much better hockey in the round robin  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 8/18/2020 6:00 pm : link
I think after having issues with Montreal's speed in the first two games they've kind of moved to a conservative style.
RE: RE: .....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/18/2020 6:05 pm : link
In comment 14952252 Kyle in NY said:
Quote:
In comment 14952239 BrettNYG10 said:


Quote:


I wouldn't be encouraged by this performance if I was a Flyers fan.



Yeah I'm getting serious PTSD watching an AV team lean on the goalie and shot blocking to close out close playoff games. I don't think they're a serious threat for the cup, they haven't impressed much in this series despite the lead


I see that. Both the Flyers and Islanders are teams that seem to punch way above their talent level, but the Flyers seem to be doing it based on goaltending while the Islanders do it on superb defensive structure.

I think the teams out West have looked more impressive than any of the teams in the East to me (in particular Colorado).
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/18/2020 6:11 pm : link
pj, have you seen this article?
The Athletic - ( New Window )
Agree  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 6:14 pm : link
on the teams out West. COL, CAL, VAN/STL, all look more comfortable than most East teams. Islanders have probably been the most impressive East team. But the Bruins 3rd period should put teams on notice - and this was without Pasta (and Rask, - though they won't get Rask back - I think they could get Pasta).

Right now MacKinnon looks every bit as effective as McDavid.

He's the best player every time he steps on the ice.

And Makar is so smooth, needs to be careful of the turnovers. He's been careless in his own end.

not sure COL has the goaltending to win it all, but they may have their best chance since Roy.

I can see a COL/CAL and BOS/NYI conference finals if that's possible.
RE: .....  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14952268 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
pj, have you seen this article? The Athletic - ( New Window )


Yes, good read, but I always felt like that team was fool's gold. They won two rounds so no denying that, and they were on the doorstep, but I never felt confident. the 2013-2014 team (Kreider knocking out Price) had championship potential IMO and I think they would have beat LA if they got past the Rangers.

Penalty  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 7:57 pm : link
shot coming up for DAL
Nope  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 7:57 pm : link
waived off, for a delay of game instead.
DAL  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 8:07 pm : link
hangs on, awesome game.

Puts CAL on the bring, DAL up 3 - 2.
NYI  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 8:13 pm : link
starts with pressure, and less than a min in draw a Caps penalty, heading to the PP in an elimination game.
No Backstrom  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 8:14 pm : link
again, he was allegedly a GTD, but is not playing.
JGP  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 8:17 pm : link
opens the scoring, might be a high stick.
I think it's  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 8:17 pm : link
a good goal.
Leddy sweet sauce  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 8:27 pm : link
to Barzal who finishes.

Caps D is butter.

NYI up 2 - 0, WAS facing elimination calls a TO

No idea  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 8:42 pm : link
how the NYI wind up with a PP here.

Varlamov  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 8:49 pm : link
incredible in a late 1st flurry by WAS>
Great save by Varlamov  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 9:14 pm : link
but now a delay of game (I hate this penalty) give the worst thing the NYI could do - a long 5 on 3 for WAS.
Kuznetzov  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 9:17 pm : link
scores (a SH?) - sneaky move, but passive D - for a 1 on 3 rush
lazy  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 9:18 pm : link
penalty for Oshie ended the Caps PP, and now a lazy penalty by Barzal ends a NYI PP, and it's 4 on 4
Ovi  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 9:21 pm : link
bomb ties it, just one shot after he broke Varlamov's mask (or jarred it off his head).

2 - 2. 14:30 left in the 2nd.
pretty dog shit  
KDubbs : 8/18/2020 9:56 pm : link
effort in that period by the Isles. thankfully tied. just need to win 1 more period and I dont think they could possibly play any worse than that period
Ovi  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 10:11 pm : link
wrist shot top shelf, to give the Caps a 3 - 2 lead.

he has maybe the sickest shot in the league.
NYI net  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 10:35 pm : link
is empty, 1:37 left down a goal (3 - 2). Let's see if we can get an OT.
WAS  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 10:41 pm : link
avoids elimination for another day and avoids being the first team eliminated from the playoffs.

See if CHI can do the same.
great first  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 11:20 pm : link
period in EDM.

Toews and Debrincat score for CHI, Patches for LVG.

Crawford sparkled.

2 - 1 CHI after 1.
Less than a min into the 3rd  
pjcas18 : 8/18/2020 11:40 pm : link
LVG ties it up.
RE: Less than a min into the 3rd  
BrettNYG10 : 8/18/2020 11:44 pm : link
In comment 14952440 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
LVG ties it up.


3rd?
RE: RE: Less than a min into the 3rd  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 8:27 am : link
In comment 14952441 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
In comment 14952440 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


LVG ties it up.



3rd?


2nd? Long day.

LVG closes it out and becomes the first team into the 2nd round and CHI becomes the first team eliminated.
Todays  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 8:30 am : link
games, (4 potential elimination games).

CBJ vs TBL at 12:00pm on NBCSN, TBL up 3 - 1
CAR vs BOS at 04:00pm on NBCSN, BOS up 3 - 1 (Pasta back?)
ARI vs COL at 05:30pm on NBCSN, COL up 3 - 1
MTL vs PHI at 08:00pm on NBCSN, PHI up 3 - 1
VAN vs STL at 10:30pm on NBCSN, Series tied 2 - 2



Isles really got it taken to them  
Metnut : 8/19/2020 9:34 am : link
after they were up 2-0. It's a shame, they had a real good chance to close this out with a two goal lead. Washington isn't going to be an easy out. Isles will need to bring it on Thursday. I think the rest of the East teams close out today, so Isles won't want to be on short rest if the series goes to the weekend.
If the Caps  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 9:37 am : link
get Backstrom back they might be a little dangerous, but NYI dominated something like 10 out of 12 periods so far and only Ovi is a consistent offensive threat.

Tarasenko  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 9:58 am : link
out of the bubble, done for the playoffs. Sounds like his shoulder he had operated on was barking.

Big loss, but he missed most of the season and they were the 1 seed in the West, so nothing they're not used to.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 11:09 am : link
Greg Hill of WEEI (never heard of him) spoke with Rask. His daughter had a medical emergency which is why he left the bubble.

I don't think Rask had to explain himself to anyone, but the critics (of which there were only a few, and none on BBI, fortunately) should feel stupid.
Twitter - ( New Window )
RE: Isles really got it taken to them  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 11:10 am : link
In comment 14952553 Metnut said:
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after they were up 2-0. It's a shame, they had a real good chance to close this out with a two goal lead. Washington isn't going to be an easy out. Isles will need to bring it on Thursday. I think the rest of the East teams close out today, so Isles won't want to be on short rest if the series goes to the weekend.


Islanders are the better team, IMO. This isn't the Caps of old. Plus I think Holtby sucks now and will blow a game.
RE: .....  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 11:42 am : link
In comment 14952637 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
Greg Hill of WEEI (never heard of him) spoke with Rask. His daughter had a medical emergency which is why he left the bubble.

I don't think Rask had to explain himself to anyone, but the critics (of which there were only a few, and none on BBI, fortunately) should feel stupid. Twitter - ( New Window )


I figured it was something like that, but I also agree he owes no one an explanation.
RE: If the Caps  
ColHowPepper : 8/19/2020 11:56 am : link
In comment 14952557 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
get Backstrom back they might be a little dangerous, but NYI dominated something like 10 out of 12 periods so far and only Ovi is a consistent offensive threat.
He kind of took over the game in 2nd and 3rd, starting with the bear hug. I credit him for sending a signal but not doing anything stupid or endangering after the slash on back of his calf. Have to respect him and his game.
RE: RE: If the Caps  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 12:00 pm : link
In comment 14952683 ColHowPepper said:
Quote:
In comment 14952557 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


get Backstrom back they might be a little dangerous, but NYI dominated something like 10 out of 12 periods so far and only Ovi is a consistent offensive threat.

He kind of took over the game in 2nd and 3rd, starting with the bear hug. I credit him for sending a signal but not doing anything stupid or endangering after the slash on back of his calf. Have to respect him and his game.


I feel like I know hockey pretty well, but I just don't get how wide open players like Ovi, Pasta, and others who don't have the speed or elusiveness of someone like McDavid get to uncork insane shots.

If I were playing the Caps, I'd let Vrana, Wilson, Oshie and Kuznetsov, etc. try and beat me. I would make sure Ovi doesn't.

Easier said than done I guess, it's not like he's an up and coming player who surprised everyone yesterday.
I think I underrated  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 1:15 pm : link
Vasilevsky a little.

Maybe because of last year's total team debacle, but he's playing well (maybe I'll jinx him).

CBJ has TBL on their heels, but TBL winning 2 - 1 with 13 left int he 2nd (due to Vasilevsky) and CBJ fighting to stay alive.
RE: RE: RE: If the Caps  
ColHowPepper : 8/19/2020 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14952687 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
I feel like I know hockey pretty well, but I just don't get how wide open players like Ovi, Pasta, and others who don't have the speed or elusiveness of someone like McDavid get to uncork insane shots.

If I were playing the Caps, I'd let Vrana, Wilson, Oshie and Kuznetsov, etc. try and beat me. I would make sure Ovi doesn't.

Easier said than done I guess, it's not like he's an up and coming player who surprised everyone yesterday.
Quite so. I have to say though that his burst down the right side before unleashing that wrist shot for 3rd goal was impressive, seemed he just turbo'd into a higher gear and left whoever was checking him in the dust
CBJ  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 1:22 pm : link
tied it up on the PP.

Stenlund (who?) 2015 2nd round pick., 1st playoff goal for Stenlund.



....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 1:42 pm : link
Ovechkin is the best goal scorer to ever play, fight me.

Tampa looks terrible.
two CBJ  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 1:42 pm : link
goals since I mentioned Vasilevsky.

CBJ now up 3 - 2 as the 2nd period winds down. TBL getting run around their own end. and now they'll start the 3rd short-handed.
RE: ....  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 1:44 pm : link
In comment 14952755 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
Ovechkin is the best goal scorer to ever play, fight me.

Tampa looks terrible.


I'd maybe agree best shot. But Gretzky has to be best goal scorer. the numbers are just staggering even if you try and explain bigger goalie pads, etc.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 1:54 pm : link
I think Ovechkin's a better goal scorer because: (1) Ovechkin currently has a higher Goals per Game and (2) Goaltending was atrocious back then. The save percentage of Vezina winners in the 80's was below the average today. I actually think the increase in save percentage is more attributable to an improvement in technique and defensive structure than pad size, but your opinion is probably better than mine.
RE: ....  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 1:55 pm : link
In comment 14952764 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
I think Ovechkin's a better goal scorer because: (1) Ovechkin currently has a higher Goals per Game and (2) Goaltending was atrocious back then. The save percentage of Vezina winners in the 80's was below the average today. I actually think the increase in save percentage is more attributable to an improvement in technique and defensive structure than pad size, but your opinion is probably better than mine.


lol, my hockey playing is probably better than yours, but my opinion isn't.

they're the two best goal scorers in history, I don't think someone who favors one over the other is right or wrong.
Haha  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 2:14 pm : link
I think that's right, it'll be a fun debate for years. I'm still surprised Ovechkin is playing at such a high level. I thought he'd have a pretty short peak.
That was a close  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 2:21 pm : link
to an overturned goal. Looked like a borderline slew foot of Vasilevsky.

But either way, since I complimented Vasilevsky three goals in under 2 periods.

No love for CBJ, but I hate TBL.
Shattenkirk  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 2:25 pm : link
with a blast, to cut the lead to 4-3.

Under 8 left in the 3rd.
TBL  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 2:44 pm : link
comes all the way back, we have OT.

Normally I'd like that, but I think it could push the other Toronto bubble games back if it escalates too much.

So, I love playoff OT, but I hope it doesn't linger.
Nice view  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 2:53 pm : link
of the CBJ 4th goal.

No slew foot, smart play by Dubois to pick up his leg, looks like Sergachev knocked his own goalie down.
link - ( New Window )
Fuck.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 3:03 pm : link
Nice goal to end it. Looked like Davisian on defense.
bye bye  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 3:03 pm : link
CBJ.

TBL closes it out, sweet pass from Kucherov to Point who was somehow wide open in front of the net. Point dekes korpisalo and goes top shelf (on the backhand I think)
Tampa didn't really deserve to win this game.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 3:06 pm : link
Much closer series than 4-1.

I hate Tampa too, mostly because I'm still hurt over 2015.
CBJ  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 3:10 pm : link
lost this series in game 1, the 5 OT game. Such a heartbreaker

Seth Jones and Zack Werenski IMO might be the best D pair in the league, and not just because they're both young, American, and have offensive game, but because they both play good D.

and you're right it was closer than 4 - 1 would indicate, every game TBL won, was by one goal - including the 5 OT game obviously.



BOS vs CAR  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 3:44 pm : link
pushed back 20 min due to OT.

I wonder if all the games in TOR will be similarly pushed back - probably.
RE: CBJ  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14952806 pjcas18 said:
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lost this series in game 1, the 5 OT game. Such a heartbreaker

Seth Jones and Zack Werenski IMO might be the best D pair in the league, and not just because they're both young, American, and have offensive game, but because they both play good D.

and you're right it was closer than 4 - 1 would indicate, every game TBL won, was by one goal - including the 5 OT game obviously.




I think I agree on Jones/Werenski.

I love Dubois as well - some of the analysts were talking about whether you pick Dubois over Laine. I think that's a bit premature, but he looked great this post-season.
I don't watch enough of Laine  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 4:12 pm : link
to understand the hate.

Especially when compared with someone like Dubois. I like both players, but man Laine has that sick shot that's hard to replace.

In his "down year" Laine still had 30 goals. at 20 years old. lol.

But it's not isolated, there is a lot of people down on Laine.

I love Dubois' style, he's gritty and has skill, but not near the offensive production of Laine.

I'm sure I'm missing something, maybe going forward people feel like this is as good as it will get from Laine (wouldn't be the first time) and Dubois is getting better.
Pasta  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 4:25 pm : link
active
Looked  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 4:32 pm : link
like a good goal for Fleury, see if it went in
That  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 4:33 pm : link
shot was absolutely wired.
Pasta  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 5:17 pm : link
faked himself out of that breakaway
Now Bergeron  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 5:36 pm : link
misses a breakaway. If Mrazek played last game this series would be tied.

Bergeron drew a penalty at least.

Bruins down 1 - 0 with 6 min or so left in the 2nd.
Now I jinxed Mrazek  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 5:39 pm : link
Bruins score on the PP to tie it.

Looked like Krejci.
Another PP  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 5:48 pm : link
goal, holy shit I jinxed Mrazek.

What a bad angle goal.
Bruins  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 5:49 pm : link
up 2 - 1 end of 2.
Kadri  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 6:02 pm : link
remains on fire (not sure if MacKinnon set this up or not) but Kadri scored his 5th of the playoffs, Girard got his 1st on the PP.

Avs up 2 - 0 looking to end ARI season.

7 min left in the first.
Awful  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 6:09 pm : link
holding call on McLovin, just a weak call.

Bruins to the PP early 2nd still up 2 - 1
RE: Awful  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 6:15 pm : link
In comment 14952954 pjcas18 said:
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holding call on McLovin, just a weak call.

Bruins to the PP early 2nd still up 2 - 1


*3rd
Canes missed a few great chances on that PP.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 6:15 pm : link
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RE: RE: Awful  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 6:20 pm : link
In comment 14952956 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 14952954 pjcas18 said:


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holding call on McLovin, just a weak call.

Bruins to the PP early 2nd still up 2 - 1



*3rd


lol, damn multi-tasking
Kadri  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 6:22 pm : link
with another (his 6th) - not watching that game - to put the Av's up 3 - 0 end of 1 (pending Brett fact check).

Coyotes on life support.
In addition to his 6 goals  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 6:34 pm : link
Kadri has 5 assists. I haven't checked a leader board, but I have to imagine he's an early leader for Conn Smythe consideration. very early, obviously, it's round 1, but still.
CAR  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 6:34 pm : link
2 min left in their 2020 playoff lives.
Bruins  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 6:39 pm : link
join Vegas, and tampa and move on.

Canes join, chi and the BJ's and go home.
MacKinnon  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 6:57 pm : link
says don't forget about me and comes through with 2 goals in the 2nd less than a min apart. He's got 4 now.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 6:58 pm : link
Outside of the third period in game 4, I didn't think the Bruins looked all that good.

Canadiens are going to be the last '17-24 seed' team alive in about an hour.
RE: .....  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 7:02 pm : link
In comment 14952980 BrettNYG10 said:
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Outside of the third period in game 4, I didn't think the Bruins looked all that good.

Canadiens are going to be the last '17-24 seed' team alive in about an hour.


I thought Canadiens had the 16 seed wrapped up (unless of course they reach the conference finals)?

was CHI worse?
RE: .....  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14952980 BrettNYG10 said:
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Outside of the third period in game 4, I didn't think the Bruins looked all that good.

Canadiens are going to be the last '17-24 seed' team alive in about an hour.


So if PHI wins because of re-seeding, it would be PHI vs NYI and BOS vs TBL, in the East, right?
RE: RE: .....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 7:09 pm : link
In comment 14952981 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14952980 BrettNYG10 said:


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Outside of the third period in game 4, I didn't think the Bruins looked all that good.

Canadiens are going to be the last '17-24 seed' team alive in about an hour.



I thought Canadiens had the 16 seed wrapped up (unless of course they reach the conference finals)?

was CHI worse?


I was talking about the initial ranking prior to qualifiers (meaning they were outside the normal conference top 8). I've seen a lot of people upset about the prospect of one of those non top 8 teams winning the Cup.
RE: RE: .....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 7:10 pm : link
In comment 14952983 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14952980 BrettNYG10 said:


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Outside of the third period in game 4, I didn't think the Bruins looked all that good.

Canadiens are going to be the last '17-24 seed' team alive in about an hour.



So if PHI wins because of re-seeding, it would be PHI vs NYI and BOS vs TBL, in the East, right?


I think so, but I haven't seen that confirmed anywhere yet.
Kathryn  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 8:04 pm : link
Tappen, Anson Carter, and Patrick Sharp is a much better studio crew than the one with Millbury and Jones.

I mean by a lot, like a mile.

Carter is great, Sharp is great and Tappen knows her shit.
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 8:15 pm : link
end their 2+ game shut out streak with a SH goal by Armia.

they take the lead 1 - 0 a few min in.
RE: Kathryn  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 8:28 pm : link
In comment 14953013 pjcas18 said:
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Tappen, Anson Carter, and Patrick Sharp is a much better studio crew than the one with Millbury and Jones.

I mean by a lot, like a mile.

Carter is great, Sharp is great and Tappen knows her shit.


Agreed.

Habs look good early on.
Yeah  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 8:29 pm : link
clearly there was a message from Muller (and Julien?) to be more physical and get in Carter Hart's face.

I hope the Flyers lose because AV's suit is so ugly.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 8:47 pm : link
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RE: I hope the Flyers lose because AV's suit is so ugly.  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 8:51 pm : link
In comment 14953059 BrettNYG10 said:
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Same.

But not because of AV's suit which I didn't notice but because Boucher is an unrepentant flyer homer. It's like playing the Bruins and having Jack Edwards do the game.

And he's terrible as is Forslund.

I like Doc. he should do every single game.
Ridiculous  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 9:15 pm : link
ejection for Kotkaniemi.
I jumped on the Avs wagon  
Davisian : 8/19/2020 9:16 pm : link
When the Rangers bowed out, because fuck the entire eastern conference and it's quite obvious that MacKinnon is the best hockey player left in the playoffs.
The skater doesn't turn and it's not even a penalty  
schabadoo : 8/19/2020 9:16 pm : link
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RE: The skater doesn't turn and it's not even a penalty  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 9:19 pm : link
In comment 14953084 schabadoo said:
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agree. I support player safety, but that's as much on the skater, you cannot ask a player to go full speed and adjust like that.
that's the kind  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 9:24 pm : link
of bounce the Canadiens need. Not enough skill to win without the bounces and/or the refs.
RE: I jumped on the Avs wagon  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 9:25 pm : link
In comment 14953083 Davisian said:
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When the Rangers bowed out, because fuck the entire eastern conference and it's quite obvious that MacKinnon is the best hockey player left in the playoffs.


every time he got the puck today it was jaw dropping, I don't have an issue if someone says he's the best player in the game right now.

McDavid is faster, etc. but the power game MacKinnon has and his own speed/skill I'm not sure I don't rank MacKinnon first.
Gally  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 9:28 pm : link
finally scores. PP goal (and that is a legit penalty)
Suzuki  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 9:39 pm : link
scores, but drouin (aka nuke laloosh of hockey) somehow goes offsides negating the goal.
Here is the Kotkaniemi  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 9:43 pm : link
hit for those who didn't see it.

Sanheim sees him coming and turns toward the boards.

i think it was late or a charge, a 2min penalty. not a major or game misconduct. that is ridiculous.
link - ( New Window )
What a game so far  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 9:53 pm : link
Habs up 3 - 2 after 2.

would be better if MTL had their best player of the playoffs still on the ice, but I guess not.
RE: Here is the Kotkaniemi  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14953127 pjcas18 said:
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hit for those who didn't see it.

Sanheim sees him coming and turns toward the boards.

i think it was late or a charge, a 2min penalty. not a major or game misconduct. that is ridiculous. link - ( New Window )


I didn't see that at the time, I agree, two minutes.
RE: I jumped on the Avs wagon  
BrettNYG10 : 8/19/2020 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14953083 Davisian said:
Quote:
When the Rangers bowed out, because fuck the entire eastern conference and it's quite obvious that MacKinnon is the best hockey player left in the playoffs.


The Avs are what I dream the Rangers rebuild becoming.
Habs  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 10:31 pm : link
showing some heart.

Give up a PP goal to tie it, then Drouin uses his speed, to hunt down a puck and give Suzuki a no-look pass in front.

Habs back up. 4 - 3 under 9 left.
90 seconds  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 10:43 pm : link
left, habs still up a goal, will we get an OT, (EN)
Danault  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 10:47 pm : link
seals it. MTL lives for another game.

Cheap shot by Couturier after the goal.
What a game  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 10:49 pm : link
if the emotion carries over, game 6 will be great.
VAN  
pjcas18 : 8/19/2020 11:08 pm : link
with a shortie (Motte) after the broken stick on a shot from the point by Pietrangelo, to put the Canucks up 1 - 0.

under 7 left in the 1st.

I'm constantly amazed by the volume of broken sticks in the NHL. These guys probably don't pay a cent for them, but these sticks cost $300 each or more.
Gallagher's  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2020 8:16 am : link
jaw might be broken.

Took a cross check to the face, no call on the play, ref right there, but Kotkaniemi was ejected. Refs haven't been bad IMO all things considered, but this miss was huge.

No hockey until 8? Is that legal?  
BrettNYG10 : 8/20/2020 9:48 am : link
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RE: No hockey until 8? Is that legal?  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2020 9:55 am : link
In comment 14953348 BrettNYG10 said:
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I knew this day would come even though I have been living in denial the past couple weeks.

NYI vs WAS at 08:00pm on NBCSN, NYI up 3 - 1
DAL vs CAL at 10:30pm on NBCSN, DAL up 3 - 2
No shit  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2020 10:58 am : link
now do Niskanen.

Quote:
Eric Engels
@EricEngels
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49m
Hearing there's no further discipline expected for Jesperi Kotkaniemi regarding the hit on Travis Sanheim that saw him assessed a major penalty and ejected from Game 5.
I think Niskanen  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2020 12:41 pm : link
should get a game.

NHL Player Safety
@NHLPlayerSafety
· 39m
Philadelphia’s Matt Niskanen will have a hearing today for Cross-checking Montreal’s Brendan Gallagher.
This sucks  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2020 5:35 pm : link
Renaud Lavoie
@renlavoietva
· 8m
What a lot of people feared is now confirmed. Broken jaw for @CanadiensMTL forward Brendan Gallagher, according to multiple sources.
RE: This sucks  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2020 5:57 pm : link
In comment 14953750 pjcas18 said:
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Renaud Lavoie
@renlavoietva
· 8m
What a lot of people feared is now confirmed. Broken jaw for @CanadiensMTL forward Brendan Gallagher, according to multiple sources.

Out for the series. Pussy, Chara played (although that was in the SCF).
Beauvilier  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2020 8:28 pm : link
scores on the PP (finally? seems like NYI PP has been rough) and the NYI take a 1 - 0 lead halfway through the 1st.
Now  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2020 8:30 pm : link
a too many men call for the Islanders. Looked like 5 to me.

I wonder if you can appeal this, doesn't seem like it.
RE: Beauvilier  
BrettNYG10 : 8/20/2020 8:34 pm : link
In comment 14953814 pjcas18 said:
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scores on the PP (finally? seems like NYI PP has been rough) and the NYI take a 1 - 0 lead halfway through the 1st.


I thought the call leading to the goal was weak but maybe I didn't get a good look at it.

The too many men just seemed wrong.
very borderline  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2020 8:34 pm : link
on Dowd (?) I agree.
RE: Beauvilier  
JayBinQueens : 8/20/2020 8:37 pm : link
In comment 14953814 pjcas18 said:
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scores on the PP (finally? seems like NYI PP has been rough) and the NYI take a 1 - 0 lead halfway through the 1st.

1 for 19 going into that PP... ya, it had been rough
Better than 0  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2020 8:48 pm : link
probably deserved more. I'm surprised he got any suspension.

NHL Player Safety
@NHLPlayerSafety
· 1m
Philadelphia’s Matt Niskanen has been suspended for one playoff game for Cross-checking Montreal’s Brendan Gallagher. http://ow.ly/jZP430r5svh
Good point  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2020 9:04 pm : link
this Niskanen cross check was worse than the Kadri/debrusk incident.

Kristen Shilton
@kristen_shilton
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2m
Interesting how much previous suspension history must play into decisions. Nazem Kadri was suspended for remainder of #Leafs series vs. Boston for cross-checking Jake DeBrusk in the face last season.

Niskanen has no suspension history, and gets one game for a pretty brutal play
Beauvilier  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2020 9:16 pm : link
nice move to add to the lead, and POS Tom Wilson hits him into the post after the goal.

2 - 0 NYI, game half over.
Flyers' HC on the hit on Gallagher:  
BillKo : 8/20/2020 9:19 pm : link
"Let’s see what happens this afternoon. But in my estimation, Gallagher got up and seemed fine, he was talking to the referees. The whole time he was on the bench, he was talking to our players…I don’t think it’s Nisky’s fault that he’s taller than a bunch of guys"

What an asshole.
I read it  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2020 9:26 pm : link
and I agree, only thing I can think is he was lobbying to keep his player in the game. I hope he doesn't believe that.

Twitter (and the broadcast) are all killing Kovalchuk.

I love the Habs traded him for a 3rd round pick after signing him in January for next to nothing.

I do hope Kovalchuk scores before the Caps are eliminated because it would be close to the largest gap between playoff goals in history (I have to imagine) - something like 10 years.
RE: Good point  
Mike in NY : 8/20/2020 9:37 pm : link
In comment 14953855 pjcas18 said:
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this Niskanen cross check was worse than the Kadri/debrusk incident.

Kristen Shilton
@kristen_shilton
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2m
Interesting how much previous suspension history must play into decisions. Nazem Kadri was suspended for remainder of #Leafs series vs. Boston for cross-checking Jake DeBrusk in the face last season.

Niskanen has no suspension history, and gets one game for a pretty brutal play


No it is just the beheaded chicken landed on bailout
NYI  
pjcas18 : 8/20/2020 10:26 pm : link
pretty much ice it with the ENG, now up 3 with just over 2 left.

So, if PHI wins it's NYI vs PHI and BOS vs TBL

good matchups, but man that NYI vs PHI series is either going to be insane or insanely boring.

NHL should hope MTL wins b/c their D is worse, will be more offense.
Calgary is imploding  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/20/2020 11:52 pm : link
Stars have scored 3x in 5 and a half minutes to take a 4-3 lead in second period.

I'd take Heiskanen over all the other young stud dmen.
What an epic joke job by the Flames...  
Anakim : 8/21/2020 12:39 am : link
Wonder what we could get from them for Georgiev...
6 unanswered, 7-3 Dallas over Calgary  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/21/2020 1:11 am : link
Have to think Flames will shuffle the deck
RE: 6 unanswered, 7-3 Dallas over Calgary  
Anakim : 8/21/2020 1:13 am : link
In comment 14953967 Diversify yo bonds said:
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Have to think Flames will shuffle the deck


Big time
I don't think the Flames  
pjcas18 : 8/21/2020 8:26 am : link
will do much.

Maybe try and unload Lucic and get a goalie, but they are a young-ish team, and were missing one of their best players.

Dallas also a good young team and i agree with the Heiskanen comment - he's a player I said I'd consider trading Lafreniere for in the other thread. Playing in Dallas he doesn't get much press. Hughes, Makar, even Fox and McAvoy, but Heiskanen and Dahlin are in that class or better.

Getting down to crunch  
pjcas18 : 8/21/2020 8:33 am : link
time, just two games today (both game 6's so in addition to being a Habs fan, I'm always rooting for game 7's)

MTL vs PHI at 07:00pm on NBCSN, PHI leads 3 - 2
STL vs VAN at 09:45pm on NBCSN, VAN leads 3 - 2

After last game, you would expect a blood bath in Toronto, but it never seems to work out that way, you usually get a peaceful game after a melee.

STL vs VAN too has been a physical series.
Congrats, Isles fans!  
rnargi : 8/21/2020 8:55 am : link
Always nice to see Alex raising the Golf Bag instead of the Stanley Cup!
this is funny  
pjcas18 : 8/21/2020 9:24 am : link
Anders Lee really had a great series.  
Drewcon40 : 8/21/2020 9:31 am : link
Islanders have been impressive since coming back from break. Adam Pelech is a really underrated player.
RE: Anders Lee really had a great series.  
pjcas18 : 8/21/2020 9:35 am : link
In comment 14954030 Drewcon40 said:
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Islanders have been impressive since coming back from break. Adam Pelech is a really underrated player.


Lee looks like a Captain. Maybe hard to describe what I mean by that, but when I see him play that's how it seems.

I was impressed obviously by the D and Varlamov, but the forwards too, JGP, Barzal, Lee, Beauvilier, I thought all looked really good and stood out.

If they maintain the pace, and clog up the middle, they will contend.
I commented to my Islander fans buddies...  
Drewcon40 : 8/21/2020 9:40 am : link
....that the team would fall into place nicely after the Tavares departure. Trotz and Lou have turned things around there. I know they probably don;t want to hear from a Ranger fan (I am still giddy about #1 overall and COVID has softened me) but a sincere congratulations to their fans. pganut and Mike in Long Beach, if you guys are lurking. Cheers gentlemen. I know MetNut and DannyKannel are also big fans. (sorry if I missed anyone).
AV  
pjcas18 : 8/21/2020 12:38 pm : link
doubling down on the stupid.

Quote:
Eric Engels
@EricEngels
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3m
“You don’t like to see any players get injured, there’s no doubt. But at the end of the day I can only state the facts and the fact was Gallagher got up and he didn’t shut up for five minutes...If MTL medical staff thought it was serious, they would’ve taken him out.” Vigneault
AV has to be trolling.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/21/2020 12:58 pm : link
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RE: RE: Anders Lee really had a great series.  
Mike in NY : 8/21/2020 1:04 pm : link
In comment 14954034 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14954030 Drewcon40 said:


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Islanders have been impressive since coming back from break. Adam Pelech is a really underrated player.



Lee looks like a Captain. Maybe hard to describe what I mean by that, but when I see him play that's how it seems.

I was impressed obviously by the D and Varlamov, but the forwards too, JGP, Barzal, Lee, Beauvilier, I thought all looked really good and stood out.

If they maintain the pace, and clog up the middle, they will contend.


I was concerned with what they paid for JGP and Greene at the trade deadline and then the large extension on JGP, but come the playoffs they are the type of players that win hockey games. This team really would have been a lot better had Panarin not settled for less money to play for the Rangers. Him next to Barzal and Eberle would have been great to see. Then you could have Lee with Pageau and either Dal Colle or Brassard until Wahlstrom or Bellows is ready. Komarov and Johnston are depth for the fourth line as none of our 4th line players are going to avoid injury with their style of play.
Just saw this on twitter re Gallagher and AV  
jv : 8/21/2020 1:19 pm : link
Gallagher told reporters he believes Stepan will play Game 4 on Sunday despite the fact he reportedly underwent surgery to stabilize his fractured jaw adding, "I've seen broken jaws before." He continued: "He got up and was yapping and yelling, so I don't think the jaw was hurting too much."

AV have a long memory?
RE: I commented to my Islander fans buddies...  
Metnut : 8/21/2020 1:34 pm : link
In comment 14954041 Drewcon40 said:
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....that the team would fall into place nicely after the Tavares departure. Trotz and Lou have turned things around there. I know they probably don;t want to hear from a Ranger fan (I am still giddy about #1 overall and COVID has softened me) but a sincere congratulations to their fans. pganut and Mike in Long Beach, if you guys are lurking. Cheers gentlemen. I know MetNut and DannyKannel are also big fans. (sorry if I missed anyone).


Appreciate it. Looking forward to seeing NYI vs NYR at a packed Coliseum next year. Nothing like those games when there's a bit of juice behind it.
RE: RE: RE: Anders Lee really had a great series.  
Metnut : 8/21/2020 1:35 pm : link
In comment 14954219 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 14954034 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


In comment 14954030 Drewcon40 said:


Quote:


Islanders have been impressive since coming back from break. Adam Pelech is a really underrated player.



Lee looks like a Captain. Maybe hard to describe what I mean by that, but when I see him play that's how it seems.

I was impressed obviously by the D and Varlamov, but the forwards too, JGP, Barzal, Lee, Beauvilier, I thought all looked really good and stood out.

If they maintain the pace, and clog up the middle, they will contend.



I was concerned with what they paid for JGP and Greene at the trade deadline and then the large extension on JGP, but come the playoffs they are the type of players that win hockey games. This team really would have been a lot better had Panarin not settled for less money to play for the Rangers. Him next to Barzal and Eberle would have been great to see. Then you could have Lee with Pageau and either Dal Colle or Brassard until Wahlstrom or Bellows is ready. Komarov and Johnston are depth for the fourth line as none of our 4th line players are going to avoid injury with their style of play.


The Greene deal annoyed me more. JGP was a steep price, but he's a perfect fit for us (our organization's C depth was really thin and he's right in his prime, so adding him for 5 years is perfect).

I really thought that a Greene rental would've been only worth a 3rd or 4th, and that a 2nd was just too much. So far, he had a really solid series vs WSH and outplayed Boychuk.
Weber needs to tee it up high  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/21/2020 1:36 pm : link
AV is just acting as a lightning rod to take heat off his guys.

Don't fall for it. 107mph at flyer domes. Make it happen.
RE: Just saw this on twitter re Gallagher and AV  
pjcas18 : 8/21/2020 1:36 pm : link
In comment 14954230 jv said:
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Gallagher told reporters he believes Stepan will play Game 4 on Sunday despite the fact he reportedly underwent surgery to stabilize his fractured jaw adding, "I've seen broken jaws before." He continued: "He got up and was yapping and yelling, so I don't think the jaw was hurting too much."

AV have a long memory?


Pretty unprofessional if that's what he's doing. a) Stepan came back in that series. Did he even miss a game? b) that series is the same one Kreider knocked out Price and there was a lot of back and forth.

and lastly Prust got 2 games for a lesser hit than what Niskanen got 1 game for
NHL announces 2nd round  
pjcas18 : 8/21/2020 2:52 pm : link
starting Sat.

COL vs DAL, SAT 8pm.

If the Habs and Blues win, it would force game 7's on Sunday, so I think it's weird that they'll start round 2 before round 1 ends. But maybe that always happens, seems like ages since MTL made the playoffs and this is obviously an unusual year.

I do think MTL loses tonight, not sure about STL.

Need at least one game 7 from this round.
RE: NHL announces 2nd round  
Mike in NY : 8/21/2020 3:02 pm : link
In comment 14954286 pjcas18 said:
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starting Sat.

COL vs DAL, SAT 8pm.

If the Habs and Blues win, it would force game 7's on Sunday, so I think it's weird that they'll start round 2 before round 1 ends. But maybe that always happens, seems like ages since MTL made the playoffs and this is obviously an unusual year.

I do think MTL loses tonight, not sure about STL.

Need at least one game 7 from this round.


I think because of the nature of COVID while everyone is healthy they are trying to get as much in as they can. Since that series does not alter COL/DAL it makes no sense to hold it up.
they havent done it much in the past  
MetsAreBack : 8/21/2020 4:45 pm : link
as teams have had to travel, etc - but its been happening for a decade in basketball and I think it makes a lot of sense. Why give up a Saturday night primetime game opportunity with very little else going on in the sports world?

I think its less about players being "negative" on the test and more about TV ratings.. its not like they can speed up the entire tournament much because of this … you still four teams playing in the first round.

Playoffs have been exciting by the way and the better teams are generally winning so that hopefully sets up for a great quarterfinal bracket... but just one "winner take all game" in 14 series now really sucks. Go Habs and Blues!
Makes  
pjcas18 : 8/21/2020 5:16 pm : link
sense.

and I agree, need some game 7's.

I do like the prospective match-ups for the 2nd round though (if chalk holds)

East
BOS vs TBL
PHI vs NYI

West
COL vs DAL
LVG vs STL (though I'd prefer VAN - they're fun to watch)
As one of the resident Caps fans here, I offer my congrats  
tony stg : 8/21/2020 5:29 pm : link
to the Islanders, their fans, and especially Coach Trotz (who will always be one of my guys). Good luck in the next round.
RE: As one of the resident Caps fans here, I offer my congrats  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/21/2020 6:43 pm : link
In comment 14954389 tony stg said:
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to the Islanders, their fans, and especially Coach Trotz (who will always be one of my guys). Good luck in the next round.


Classy.

What's your thought on the Caps' showing? I think the attrition of roster departures post cup is evident. The bottom of the roster really misses guys like Beagle, Burakovsky, Connolly, etc.

I've always been a Kovy fan, but sad trombone for his performance.
Habs had half dozen golden chances in 2nd  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/21/2020 8:49 pm : link
Flukey goal keeps Flyers ahead 3-2
Good game  
pjcas18 : 8/21/2020 9:41 pm : link
good series.
If this is PHI, they are not as good as people think or MTL was better than their record showed.

MTL outplayed PHI, but not on the scoreboard. Not one of the 3 goals for the Flyers was clean, all three were off Canadiens players, but I don't think puck luck is random, I think you make your own puck luck so I give the Flyers credit. You have to.

If the NYI play like they played so far they should make short work of the Flyers.

....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/21/2020 9:43 pm : link
Sorry, pj.

I was really impressed with Montreal this series. I like Suzuki a lot.
RE: Makes  
MetsAreBack : 8/21/2020 9:53 pm : link
In comment 14954387 pjcas18 said:
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sense.

and I agree, need some game 7's.

I do like the prospective match-ups for the 2nd round though (if chalk holds)

East
BOS vs TBL
PHI vs NYI

West
COL vs DAL
LVG vs STL (though I'd prefer VAN - they're fun to watch)


I think you’ll get VAN. STL is a tough out obviously but they are down 2-3 and have so many key injuries right now.
RE: ....  
pjcas18 : 8/21/2020 9:55 pm : link
In comment 14954469 BrettNYG10 said:
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Sorry, pj.

I was really impressed with Montreal this series. I like Suzuki a lot.


thanks man, I'm over it. lol.

Canadiens have a good future, maybe not quite the stable of prospects/youth the Rangers will have, but Romanov joins the blue line next year - they desperately need him and maybe Caufield in March (depending on NCAA season) and they desperately need him. They don't have a sniper on MTL.

and they're in good cap shape.

Taylor Hall?

Sean Monahan? The Rangers should be in on Monahan too, since I read CAL is likely to be shopping him.

Really good #2C with a fair contract for the next 3 years.





Beagle  
pjcas18 : 8/21/2020 9:57 pm : link
beats Binnington, getting production from the 4th line is huge.

nice shot.
Calling..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/21/2020 10:49 pm : link
Gloria! I think they have your number.

Oops - wrong team....
This is a beatdown  
MetsAreBack : 8/21/2020 11:02 pm : link
Just one sudden death game in 16 series now. Cmon - I want better next round
RE: RE: ....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/21/2020 11:05 pm : link
In comment 14954473 pjcas18 said:
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Sorry, pj.

I was really impressed with Montreal this series. I like Suzuki a lot.



thanks man, I'm over it. lol.

Canadiens have a good future, maybe not quite the stable of prospects/youth the Rangers will have, but Romanov joins the blue line next year - they desperately need him and maybe Caufield in March (depending on NCAA season) and they desperately need him. They don't have a sniper on MTL.

and they're in good cap shape.

Taylor Hall?

Sean Monahan? The Rangers should be in on Monahan too, since I read CAL is likely to be shopping him.

Really good #2C with a fair contract for the next 3 years.






I don't watch much of MTL, but they had a handful of young guys I was really impressed with. I'm not a big believe in season to season momentum, but a lot of players looked to have taken big steps from what I remember during the year. I think Montreal was the better team against PHI.

Vancouver looks to have more designed plays than other teams. Another team I don't watch much of, of course.
No game 7's is such bullshit.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/21/2020 11:08 pm : link
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RE: Calling..  
Davisian : 8/21/2020 11:09 pm : link
In comment 14954486 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Gloria! I think they have your number.

Oops - wrong team....


Toasted Ravioli
Unfortunately  
pjcas18 : 8/21/2020 11:11 pm : link
MTL's window is now, even with missing the playoffs the past two years before this one.

Price and Weber are old and have big contracts.

they can't be patient like the younger teams (though the Canadiens have a lot of youth too).

And I thought Price and Weber were great until this game, Weber was brutal. He has games like this every now and then where his lack of speed is exposed and they still trot him out there on the PP to set up his one-timer, but he's a liability - almost no one has a plodding D even with a cannon shot on their PP anymore.

Swap him out for a Krug-type and with the skill guys they'd do much better.

anyway, MTL is a fun team to watch play. Hopefully they start to be a contender too.
Think a goalie can't win a series for you?  
pjcas18 : 8/21/2020 11:13 pm : link
well hopefully you agree they can. And they can lose one.

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@ehornick
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Jordan Binnington has allowed 13 goals on 65 shots in this series. #stlblues

He allowed 13 goals on 145 shots in games 3 - 7 vs #Bruins last spring. #StanleyCup


Some questionable coaching decisions all playoffs - CAR, STL, even LVG I wasn't sure what they were doing.

Georgiev is going to be highly sought-after  
Anakim : 8/21/2020 11:18 pm : link
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RE: Georgiev is going to be highly sought-after  
pjcas18 : 8/21/2020 11:23 pm : link
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Maybe. A lot of free agent goalies.

Halak, Holtby, Crawford, Lehner, Markstrom, Talbot, Khodobin, Anderson (and more)

none are young potential franchise goalies, but there's a lot of experience (and some rings) there.

Plus the best goalie prospect since Carey Price is in the draft.
'Georgiev is going to be highly sought-after'  
Torrag : 8/22/2020 12:17 am : link
His numbers don't support that theory. They are average across the board. Cam Talbot was the statistically superior player in every significant goal tending category...and he's struggled as a front man.
RE: 'Georgiev is going to be highly sought-after'  
JayBinQueens : 8/22/2020 12:37 am : link
In comment 14954512 Torrag said:
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His numbers don't support that theory. They are average across the board. Cam Talbot was the statistically superior player in every significant goal tending category...and he's struggled as a front man.

Stop looking at this through neutral glasses
RE: 'Georgiev is going to be highly sought-after'  
Anakim : 8/22/2020 1:04 am : link
In comment 14954512 Torrag said:
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His numbers don't support that theory. They are average across the board. Cam Talbot was the statistically superior player in every significant goal tending category...and he's struggled as a front man.


His stats are very impressive for someone his age. Georgiev is younger and better than Talbot. He also has 3 RFA years left. Did you see Talbot in the playoffs? He imploded. Plus, he's an UFA. I highly doubt Calgary brings him back after what they just witnessed in the playoffs.

Teams that could be interested in trading for Georgiev:

Flames, Red Wings, Blues, Maple Leafs (if they sour on Andersson), Coyotes, Senators, Sharks, Oilers, Blackhawks, Sabres, Golden Knights


Georgiev will be highly sought-after. Goalies like Lehner, Freddie Andersen and Martin Jones all netted first round picks. When we traded Cam Talbot, we got a 2nd and a 3rd.
Georgiev will get similar value. My guess is he'll net either a second rounder + another pick or prospect, or used a chip to move up in the Draft. Perhaps something like the Hurricanes pick, Georgiev and another piece to the Sabres for 8th overall.
RE: RE: 'Georgiev is going to be highly sought-after'  
Anakim : 8/22/2020 1:11 am : link
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His numbers don't support that theory. They are average across the board. Cam Talbot was the statistically superior player in every significant goal tending category...and he's struggled as a front man.


Stop looking at this through neutral glasses


Georgiev, 24:

3.04 GAA, SV% .910



Lehner (the season before he was traded for a first round pick), 24:

3.02 .905



Expecting a second round pick+ for Georgiev is entirely reasonable. With so many teams needing young, quality goaltending under team control in a flat-cap era, Georgiev will be sought-after.
Tonight  
pjcas18 : 8/22/2020 8:23 am : link
it's just Stars vs Avs at 08:00pm on NBC.

A lot of star power (no pun intended) in this game and I think the Avs roll, but Dallas has quality at all levels and probably more depth.

Players I like to watch play:

DAL: Heiskanen, Hintz, Seguin, Radulov, Gurianov, Benn, Klingberg, Radulov even Pavelski at this age still has skill.

COL: MacKinnon, Makar, Rantanen, Landeskog.


Kadri is having a good playoffs, but if I said I enjoy watching him play I'd be lying. He's the closest thing to Tom Wilson this series will have or maybe Corey Perry is, both agitators.



I like watching Radulov  
pjcas18 : 8/22/2020 8:24 am : link
so much, I have him twice. He's interesting, definitely past his prime, but he's a wily vet, can score, will hit if forced to, and he's a "love to hate" opponent.
Radulov is like a vampire  
ColHowPepper : 8/22/2020 8:49 am : link
you stick a stake in his heart and he keeps rising come Cup time

First time watching VAN for any length last night, fun team, young, very good skating team and balance along the roster. Beagle was surgical in setting up his screen yet Binnington still got a piece of it, not enough. Stetcher's shot was a beauty. Seemed to me it was the 4th goal that Binnington really needed to save. But I wonder how VAN's play will translate vs LVK (putative successor to the mid last decade Kings?)
Quarterfinals schedule is out  
MetsAreBack : 8/22/2020 9:01 am : link
they do seem to be accelerating the postseason by a few days since there were no game 7s. In the past if you won in less than 7 you always had more than a day off before your next series started, but tonight Dallas and tomorrow Vancouver play with just one day off to prepare for a new opponent.

Probably a combination of not testing fate re: negative tests, and also trying to get these guys home to their families a little sooner, if possible.

All in great job continues to be done by this league this summer... must admit. And of course flawless execution of the draft lottery too.
RE: RE: RE: 'Georgiev is going to be highly sought-after'  
Mike in NY : 8/22/2020 9:37 am : link
In comment 14954519 Anakim said:
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His numbers don't support that theory. They are average across the board. Cam Talbot was the statistically superior player in every significant goal tending category...and he's struggled as a front man.


Stop looking at this through neutral glasses



Georgiev, 24:

3.04 GAA, SV% .910



Lehner (the season before he was traded for a first round pick), 24:

3.02 .905



Expecting a second round pick+ for Georgiev is entirely reasonable. With so many teams needing young, quality goaltending under team control in a flat-cap era, Georgiev will be sought-after.


Lehner was always more highly thought of than Georgiev. Not to mention that teams know that Rangers have to dump a goalie with Henrik and Shesterkin also in the picture. They will be lucky to get even what Cam Talbot returned.
RE: RE: RE: RE: 'Georgiev is going to be highly sought-after'  
Anakim : 8/22/2020 9:39 am : link
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His numbers don't support that theory. They are average across the board. Cam Talbot was the statistically superior player in every significant goal tending category...and he's struggled as a front man.


Stop looking at this through neutral glasses



Georgiev, 24:

3.04 GAA, SV% .910



Lehner (the season before he was traded for a first round pick), 24:

3.02 .905



Expecting a second round pick+ for Georgiev is entirely reasonable. With so many teams needing young, quality goaltending under team control in a flat-cap era, Georgiev will be sought-after.



Lehner was always more highly thought of than Georgiev. Not to mention that teams know that Rangers have to dump a goalie with Henrik and Shesterkin also in the picture. They will be lucky to get even what Cam Talbot returned.


Why was Lehner always more highly thought of?
Montreal is going to be a pain in the ass for a while  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 8/22/2020 9:45 am : link
Good speed and the pressing forecheck will drive teams crazy. Weber was bad this last game.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 'Georgiev is going to be highly sought-after'  
Mike in NY : 8/22/2020 9:49 am : link
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His numbers don't support that theory. They are average across the board. Cam Talbot was the statistically superior player in every significant goal tending category...and he's struggled as a front man.


Stop looking at this through neutral glasses



Georgiev, 24:

3.04 GAA, SV% .910



Lehner (the season before he was traded for a first round pick), 24:

3.02 .905



Expecting a second round pick+ for Georgiev is entirely reasonable. With so many teams needing young, quality goaltending under team control in a flat-cap era, Georgiev will be sought-after.



Lehner was always more highly thought of than Georgiev. Not to mention that teams know that Rangers have to dump a goalie with Henrik and Shesterkin also in the picture. They will be lucky to get even what Cam Talbot returned.



Why was Lehner always more highly thought of?


Top ranked Euro goalie according to Central Scouting his draft year. Calder Cup MVP in 2011. Georgiev was not even drafted. Lehner also posted significantly better AHL numbers than Georgiev and his 2012-2013 was far better than what Georgiev ever has had. There were a lot of people who thought Lehner was rushed in Ottawa and then dangled between AHL and NHL and that with more consistent playing time would do better.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 'Georgiev is going to be highly sought-after'  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/22/2020 9:51 am : link
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Why was Lehner always more highly thought of?


Lehner is 6'4" 240 with the athleticism and quickness of a smaller man. It's like shooting on a grizzly bear. That's why he was always worth the gamble to teams despite his off ice struggles.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 'Georgiev is going to be highly sought-after'  
Anakim : 8/22/2020 10:34 am : link
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His numbers don't support that theory. They are average across the board. Cam Talbot was the statistically superior player in every significant goal tending category...and he's struggled as a front man.


Stop looking at this through neutral glasses



Georgiev, 24:

3.04 GAA, SV% .910



Lehner (the season before he was traded for a first round pick), 24:

3.02 .905



Expecting a second round pick+ for Georgiev is entirely reasonable. With so many teams needing young, quality goaltending under team control in a flat-cap era, Georgiev will be sought-after.



Lehner was always more highly thought of than Georgiev. Not to mention that teams know that Rangers have to dump a goalie with Henrik and Shesterkin also in the picture. They will be lucky to get even what Cam Talbot returned.



Why was Lehner always more highly thought of?



Top ranked Euro goalie according to Central Scouting his draft year. Calder Cup MVP in 2011. Georgiev was not even drafted. Lehner also posted significantly better AHL numbers than Georgiev and his 2012-2013 was far better than what Georgiev ever has had. There were a lot of people who thought Lehner was rushed in Ottawa and then dangled between AHL and NHL and that with more consistent playing time would do better.


So what? They had the similar stats in the NHL. Who cares about their pedigrees? Undrafted players are automatically discarded even if they prove they belong?


"and that with more consistent playing time would do better."

Can't you say the same exact thing about Georgiev?
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Anakim : 8/22/2020 10:36 am : link
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 'Georgiev is going to be highly sought-after'  
JayBinQueens : 8/22/2020 10:44 am : link
In comment 14954576 Anakim said:
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Why was Lehner always more highly thought of?


Lehner has a career 2.72 GAA w a .918 save percentage in over 300 games played, which is better than Gorgiev. To be fair Gorgievs sample size is about 1/4 of that. Lehner was also coming off a monster year with the Isles where he posted a 2.13 GAA with a .930 save %.

I'll also echo what Mike said. Teams know the Rangers need to move someone or br stuck with a crowded goalie room. Is Gorgiev going to be happy in the AHL next year?

The flat cap I think hurts your argument as teams aren't going to want to give up draft assets. I imagine a fair number of the goalies listed earlier will take short deals to be able to test FA again in a year or two hoping the cap increases again
Thomas Greiss  
Metnut : 8/22/2020 10:48 am : link
is going to be a really solid steal for someone this offseason too. With so many goalies in the market, I can’t imagine teams will be lining up to give up assets to acquire one. Huge buyers market for sure.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 'Georgiev is going to be highly sought-after'  
Anakim : 8/22/2020 11:09 am : link
In comment 14954624 JayBinQueens said:
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Why was Lehner always more highly thought of?



Lehner has a career 2.72 GAA w a .918 save percentage in over 300 games played, which is better than Gorgiev. To be fair Gorgievs sample size is about 1/4 of that. Lehner was also coming off a monster year with the Isles where he posted a 2.13 GAA with a .930 save %.

I'll also echo what Mike said. Teams know the Rangers need to move someone or br stuck with a crowded goalie room. Is Gorgiev going to be happy in the AHL next year?

The flat cap I think hurts your argument as teams aren't going to want to give up draft assets. I imagine a fair number of the goalies listed earlier will take short deals to be able to test FA again in a year or two hoping the cap increases again



Jay, we're discussing why Georgiev will net at least a second round pick in a trade. Lehner's career with the Islanders is irrelevant. Lehner was traded for a first round pick in 2015.


"The flat cap I think hurts your argument as teams aren't going to want to give up draft assets."

Except it's highly unlikely that a second rounder would make the team out of camp or even next year, so again, not really relevant. And having a young promising goalie under team control for the next 3 years (at least) will be highly desirable in a flat-cap.
RE: Thomas Greiss  
Anakim : 8/22/2020 11:12 am : link
In comment 14954630 Metnut said:
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is going to be a really solid steal for someone this offseason too. With so many goalies in the market, I can’t imagine teams will be lining up to give up assets to acquire one. Huge buyers market for sure.


Guess we'll see. Meanwhile, this is a playoff thread, not a Rangers/Georgiev thread, so perhaps it's best to move on.
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Diversify yo bonds : 8/22/2020 11:18 am : link
In comment 14954615 Anakim said:
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Lmao
A 14 game sample heavy on lottery teams.
Then wants to change the subject after injecting it at every opportunity.

Don't ever change. Your unintentional entertainment factor. is off the charts. I mean that in a non dickish way
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Anakim : 8/22/2020 11:28 am : link
In comment 14954645 Diversify yo bonds said:
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Lmao
A 14 game sample heavy on lottery teams.
Then wants to change the subject after injecting it at every opportunity.

Don't ever change. Your unintentional entertainment factor. is off the charts. I mean that in a non dickish way


Not surprisingly, you misinterpreted the data. And I'm doing you a favor. This is a Playoff thread and last I checked, your team is in the Playoffs. I don't know why you don't have your own Playoff thread, but here we are. If you'd like to continue talking about the value of Georgiev, I'm more than game.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 'Georgiev is going to be highly sought-after'  
JayBinQueens : 8/22/2020 12:53 pm : link
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Why was Lehner always more highly thought of?



Lehner has a career 2.72 GAA w a .918 save percentage in over 300 games played, which is better than Gorgiev. To be fair Gorgievs sample size is about 1/4 of that. Lehner was also coming off a monster year with the Isles where he posted a 2.13 GAA with a .930 save %.

I'll also echo what Mike said. Teams know the Rangers need to move someone or br stuck with a crowded goalie room. Is Gorgiev going to be happy in the AHL next year?

The flat cap I think hurts your argument as teams aren't going to want to give up draft assets. I imagine a fair number of the goalies listed earlier will take short deals to be able to test FA again in a year or two hoping the cap increases again




Jay, we're discussing why Georgiev will net at least a second round pick in a trade. Lehner's career with the Islanders is irrelevant. Lehner was traded for a first round pick in 2015.


"The flat cap I think hurts your argument as teams aren't going to want to give up draft assets."

Except it's highly unlikely that a second rounder would make the team out of camp or even next year, so again, not really relevant. And having a young promising goalie under team control for the next 3 years (at least) will be highly desirable in a flat-cap.


I misread your original Lehner point, I thought you were talking about what he netted this year at the deadline going from Chicago to Vegas.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree. In a market where there are plenty of goalies available I think you'll be disappointed with the return.
Advanced stats are useful and informative but ...  
Torrag : 8/22/2020 4:52 pm : link
some are less so than others. To me the saves above expected is among the most subjective, least indicative and effective for predicting performance both past and future. I've read several different formulas for determining these values and it's definitely voodoo statistics.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/22/2020 5:11 pm : link
I’d be surprised if Georgiev fetched as much as Talbot did - Talbot was a #1 for a long stretch due to Lundqvist’s injury in 2015. Talbot’s save percentage was also well above what Georgiev’s was. I think Talbot was really good for the Rangers (and was also good for two years in Edmonton) - Georgiev doesn’t have the same track record, and to the point others made, there are a lot of good goalies available this off-season.

I also think teams might feel a bit burnt by trading for Rangers back-ups. Maybe he can fetch a second alone (although I’m doubtful as well) - I think the best trade the Rangers could make is a Georgiev+TDA package or something like that.
...  
BrettNYG10 : 8/22/2020 5:45 pm : link
Picks for the second round, because everyone asked:

Avs, Canucks, Islanders, Lightning

I think I was under 50% in round 1, lol
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/22/2020 5:51 pm : link
MIKE MILBURY: “In light of the attention caused by my recent remark, I have decided to step away from my role at NBC Sports for the remainder of the Stanley Cup Playoffs. I do not want my presence to interfere with the athletes as they try to win the greatest trophy in sports.”
RE: ....  
Anakim : 8/22/2020 5:55 pm : link
In comment 14954772 BrettNYG10 said:
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I’d be surprised if Georgiev fetched as much as Talbot did - Talbot was a #1 for a long stretch due to Lundqvist’s injury in 2015. Talbot’s save percentage was also well above what Georgiev’s was. I think Talbot was really good for the Rangers (and was also good for two years in Edmonton) - Georgiev doesn’t have the same track record, and to the point others made, there are a lot of good goalies available this off-season.

I also think teams might feel a bit burnt by trading for Rangers back-ups. Maybe he can fetch a second alone (although I’m doubtful as well) - I think the best trade the Rangers could make is a Georgiev+TDA package or something like that.


A few things:

Talbot was better than Georgiev, but he also had a better defense in front of him, and had a somewhat shorter sample. He was also older than Georgiev is now and closer to needing a UFA contract. Georgiev's youth and team control make him desirable.


As I said, I'm expecting a second round+ return for Georgiev (ala Talbot) or for him to be packaged with an asset or two to either move up in the Draft or for a promising, young roster player (ala Raanta). Rumors were that the Rangers asked for a young top 6 NHL forward for Georgiev at the Deadline.

And it's a fair point about the goalies on the market, but those guys will command more on the open market than the team-controlled Georgiev. That was my whole point about him being more desirable in a season with a flat cap. And again, look at how many teams need goalies.


All of this could potentially be moot if Henrik decides to retire and the Rangers want to platoon Georgiev and Igor next season.
For you, Torrag. Corsica rating. Georgiev was ranked 15th. - ( New Window )
RE: .....  
Anakim : 8/22/2020 5:56 pm : link
In comment 14954781 BrettNYG10 said:
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MIKE MILBURY: “In light of the attention caused by my recent remark, I have decided to step away from my role at NBC Sports for the remainder of the Stanley Cup Playoffs. I do not want my presence to interfere with the athletes as they try to win the greatest trophy in sports.”


What a douche. Meanwhile, he doesn't offer much to begin with.
RE: .....  
KDubbs : 8/22/2020 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14954781 BrettNYG10 said:
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MIKE MILBURY: “In light of the attention caused by my recent remark, I have decided to step away from my role at NBC Sports for the remainder of the Stanley Cup Playoffs. I do not want my presence to interfere with the athletes as they try to win the greatest trophy in sports.”


thank god. now if we could just get as francesa calls him, pee hair mcguire gone as well the broadcasts would be close to perfection
Jesus Christ. Look at what MAF's agent tweeted.  
Anakim : 8/22/2020 5:58 pm : link
RE: RE: .....  
Anakim : 8/22/2020 5:59 pm : link
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MIKE MILBURY: “In light of the attention caused by my recent remark, I have decided to step away from my role at NBC Sports for the remainder of the Stanley Cup Playoffs. I do not want my presence to interfere with the athletes as they try to win the greatest trophy in sports.”



thank god. now if we could just get as francesa calls him, pee hair mcguire gone as well the broadcasts would be close to perfection


Milbury is a whiz. He turned

Olli Jokinen
Gaborik/Heatley
Scott Hartnell
Jason Spezza
Roberto Luongo
Zdeno Chara

into:

Alexei Yashin
Rick Dipietro
Mark Parrish
Oleg Kvasha
Raffi Torres



I mean even Billy King wasn't that inept
RE: RE: RE: .....  
Davisian : 8/22/2020 6:04 pm : link
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Milbury is a whiz. He turned

Olli Jokinen
Gaborik/Heatley
Scott Hartnell
Jason Spezza
Roberto Luongo
Zdeno Chara

into:

Alexei Yashin
Rick Dipietro
Mark Parrish
Oleg Kvasha
Raffi Torres



I mean even Billy King wasn't that inept



You should probably credit the tweet that just posted that.

RE: RE: RE: RE: .....  
Anakim : 8/22/2020 6:08 pm : link
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Milbury is a whiz. He turned

Olli Jokinen
Gaborik/Heatley
Scott Hartnell
Jason Spezza
Roberto Luongo
Zdeno Chara

into:

Alexei Yashin
Rick Dipietro
Mark Parrish
Oleg Kvasha
Raffi Torres



I mean even Billy King wasn't that inept




You should probably credit the tweet that just posted that.


It's a fact, jack
RE: ....  
MetsAreBack : 8/22/2020 6:11 pm : link
In comment 14954772 BrettNYG10 said:
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I’d be surprised if Georgiev fetched as much as Talbot did - Talbot was a #1 for a long stretch due to Lundqvist’s injury in 2015. Talbot’s save percentage was also well above what Georgiev’s was. I think Talbot was really good for the Rangers (and was also good for two years in Edmonton) - Georgiev doesn’t have the same track record, and to the point others made, there are a lot of good goalies available this off-season.

I also think teams might feel a bit burnt by trading for Rangers back-ups. Maybe he can fetch a second alone (although I’m doubtful as well) - I think the best trade the Rangers could make is a Georgiev+TDA package or something like that.


Probably best to hold onto Georgiev. Can’t imagine a scenario where Lundqvist fits under the cap Or is wanted back and Igor doesn’t strike me as cal Ripken nor is he ready for a full workload regardless
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Davisian : 8/22/2020 6:32 pm : link
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You should probably credit the tweet that just posted that.



It's a fact, jack



Right. You copy and pasted someone else's tweet and didn't credit it.

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: .....  
Anakim : 8/22/2020 6:38 pm : link
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You should probably credit the tweet that just posted that.



It's a fact, jack




Right. You copy and pasted someone else's tweet and didn't credit it.


Milbury getting rid of Jokinen, Hartnell, Spezza, Luongo, and Chara is pretty well-known in the hockey world. But yes, I did see the tweet and I copied the names. No need to credit a list of names.
RE: RE: ....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/22/2020 6:53 pm : link
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I’d be surprised if Georgiev fetched as much as Talbot did - Talbot was a #1 for a long stretch due to Lundqvist’s injury in 2015. Talbot’s save percentage was also well above what Georgiev’s was. I think Talbot was really good for the Rangers (and was also good for two years in Edmonton) - Georgiev doesn’t have the same track record, and to the point others made, there are a lot of good goalies available this off-season.

I also think teams might feel a bit burnt by trading for Rangers back-ups. Maybe he can fetch a second alone (although I’m doubtful as well) - I think the best trade the Rangers could make is a Georgiev+TDA package or something like that.



A few things:

Talbot was better than Georgiev, but he also had a better defense in front of him, and had a somewhat shorter sample. He was also older than Georgiev is now and closer to needing a UFA contract. Georgiev's youth and team control make him desirable.


As I said, I'm expecting a second round+ return for Georgiev (ala Talbot) or for him to be packaged with an asset or two to either move up in the Draft or for a promising, young roster player (ala Raanta). Rumors were that the Rangers asked for a young top 6 NHL forward for Georgiev at the Deadline.

And it's a fair point about the goalies on the market, but those guys will command more on the open market than the team-controlled Georgiev. That was my whole point about him being more desirable in a season with a flat cap. And again, look at how many teams need goalies.


All of this could potentially be moot if Henrik decides to retire and the Rangers want to platoon Georgiev and Igor next season. For you, Torrag. Corsica rating. Georgiev was ranked 15th. - ( New Window )


I was higher on Talbot then than I am on Georgiev now. Talbot flashed top ten skill. I'm really not that impressed with Georgiev and think it would be great if we can turn him into a second.
Beginner at Non-Ranger Game  
Percy : 8/22/2020 8:08 pm : link
Trying the Dallas/Colorado game. First time for me watching non-Rangers hockey. (OK. I'm a whatdya call it fan. Out of it, I guess.) Expect to be wowed, since these guys seem all to be very, very good, but won't know until something happens who to root for.
RE: Beginner at Non-Ranger Game  
Anakim : 8/22/2020 8:51 pm : link
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but won't know until something happens who to root for.


So it depends. We own the Stars third round pick (so we obviously want that to be as high as possible), but the Stars are a lower-ranked team so if they win, the Rangers other first round pick is bumped up a spot.
RE: RE: RE: ....  
Anakim : 8/22/2020 8:52 pm : link
In comment 14954797 BrettNYG10 said:
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I’d be surprised if Georgiev fetched as much as Talbot did - Talbot was a #1 for a long stretch due to Lundqvist’s injury in 2015. Talbot’s save percentage was also well above what Georgiev’s was. I think Talbot was really good for the Rangers (and was also good for two years in Edmonton) - Georgiev doesn’t have the same track record, and to the point others made, there are a lot of good goalies available this off-season.

I also think teams might feel a bit burnt by trading for Rangers back-ups. Maybe he can fetch a second alone (although I’m doubtful as well) - I think the best trade the Rangers could make is a Georgiev+TDA package or something like that.



A few things:

Talbot was better than Georgiev, but he also had a better defense in front of him, and had a somewhat shorter sample. He was also older than Georgiev is now and closer to needing a UFA contract. Georgiev's youth and team control make him desirable.


As I said, I'm expecting a second round+ return for Georgiev (ala Talbot) or for him to be packaged with an asset or two to either move up in the Draft or for a promising, young roster player (ala Raanta). Rumors were that the Rangers asked for a young top 6 NHL forward for Georgiev at the Deadline.

And it's a fair point about the goalies on the market, but those guys will command more on the open market than the team-controlled Georgiev. That was my whole point about him being more desirable in a season with a flat cap. And again, look at how many teams need goalies.


All of this could potentially be moot if Henrik decides to retire and the Rangers want to platoon Georgiev and Igor next season. For you, Torrag. Corsica rating. Georgiev was ranked 15th. - ( New Window )



I was higher on Talbot then than I am on Georgiev now. Talbot flashed top ten skill. I'm really not that impressed with Georgiev and think it would be great if we can turn him into a second.



I don't disagree. As I said, I think Talbot was better when he was a Ranger than Georgiev is now, but he was also older and closer to UFA. All things considered, I feel we could/should see a similar return in a Georgiev trade.
RE: RE: Beginner at Non-Ranger Game  
Percy : 8/22/2020 8:57 pm : link
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but won't know until something happens who to root for.



So it depends. We own the Stars third round pick (so we obviously want that to be as high as possible), but the Stars are a lower-ranked team so if they win, the Rangers other first round pick is bumped up a spot.

Have to say, at least in this first period, Stars look like the better team (aside from the score).
Stars depth  
pjcas18 : 8/22/2020 9:07 pm : link
and blue line are better.

Maybe goalie too.

a lot of talent on the Stars team.

Avs too, but less depth.
grubauer  
pjcas18 : 8/22/2020 9:24 pm : link
hurt. so quiet. It didn't look like a dangerous injury, but a leg. maybe a groin or knee.

RE: grubauer  
Percy : 8/22/2020 9:25 pm : link
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hurt. so quiet. It didn't look like a dangerous injury, but a leg. maybe a groin or knee.
Looked bad. What happened is unclear.
Radulov  
Percy : 8/22/2020 9:38 pm : link
Finds his way to the right spot -- twice.
MacKinnen  
Percy : 8/22/2020 9:57 pm : link
for the Avs looks amazingly tough!
Stars  
Percy : 8/22/2020 10:33 pm : link
Get another in the third. Could be enough!
RE: Stars  
JayBinQueens : 8/22/2020 10:38 pm : link
In comment 14954835 Percy said:
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Get another in the third. Could be enough!


Very entertaining game. I wouldn't be surprised if Colorado gets one in the next few minutes to make it a fun ending
Stars  
Percy : 8/22/2020 10:58 pm : link
Take it, with a 3 minute stand against 6.
RE: RE: Stars  
JayBinQueens : 8/22/2020 10:58 pm : link
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Get another in the third. Could be enough!



Very entertaining game. I wouldn't be surprised if Colorado gets one in the next few minutes to make it a fun ending


Well, I was wrong
Capitals fired HC Todd Reirdan  
Anakim : 8/23/2020 11:20 am : link
.
Hate seeing people let go  
MetsAreBack : 8/23/2020 11:23 am : link
In this environment. It’s tough, teams lost all momentum with the long layoff.

But in Reirdons case - two straight first round exits and more importantly the guy looks more like Kevin Malone from The Office than a nhl coach
RE: Hate seeing people let go  
Anakim : 8/23/2020 11:27 am : link
In comment 14954905 MetsAreBack said:
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In this environment. It’s tough, teams lost all momentum with the long layoff.

But in Reirdons case - two straight first round exits and more importantly the guy looks more like Kevin Malone from The Office than a nhl coach


I wonder if the Rangers will be interested to bring him aboard as an assistant. He helped coach the Capitals defense to a Stanley Cup only a couple of years ago. We happen to need a new "defensive coordinator." Seems like a natural fit.
RE: RE: Hate seeing people let go  
Percy : 8/23/2020 11:34 am : link
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In this environment. It’s tough, teams lost all momentum with the long layoff.

But in Reirdons case - two straight first round exits and more importantly the guy looks more like Kevin Malone from The Office than a nhl coach



I wonder if the Rangers will be interested to bring him aboard as an assistant. He helped coach the Capitals defense to a Stanley Cup only a couple of years ago. We happen to need a new "defensive coordinator." Seems like a natural fit.

Guy has been shown to be a repeat loser. Does not seem to me to be what the Rangers need, now or ever.
RE: RE: RE: Hate seeing people let go  
Anakim : 8/23/2020 11:35 am : link
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In this environment. It’s tough, teams lost all momentum with the long layoff.

But in Reirdons case - two straight first round exits and more importantly the guy looks more like Kevin Malone from The Office than a nhl coach



I wonder if the Rangers will be interested to bring him aboard as an assistant. He helped coach the Capitals defense to a Stanley Cup only a couple of years ago. We happen to need a new "defensive coordinator." Seems like a natural fit.


Guy has been shown to be a repeat loser. Does not seem to me to be what the Rangers need, now or ever.


Reirdan's career as an assistant in Washington:

"2014-15: 2.43 goals against per game, 7th in the NHL
2015-16: 2.33 goals against per game, 2nd in the NHL
2016-17: 2.16 goals against per game, 1st in the NHL
2017-18: 2.90 goals against per game, 16th in the NHL

In those four seasons combined, Washington allowed 2.45 goals per game, lower than every team in the NHL but one. He was also in charge of the team's lethal power play."
'not that impressed with Georgiev great if he brings back a second'  
Torrag : 8/23/2020 1:46 pm : link
/nod I agree. That's his value.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Hate seeing people let go  
JayBinQueens : 8/23/2020 2:54 pm : link
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In this environment. It’s tough, teams lost all momentum with the long layoff.

But in Reirdons case - two straight first round exits and more importantly the guy looks more like Kevin Malone from The Office than a nhl coach



I wonder if the Rangers will be interested to bring him aboard as an assistant. He helped coach the Capitals defense to a Stanley Cup only a couple of years ago. We happen to need a new "defensive coordinator." Seems like a natural fit.


Guy has been shown to be a repeat loser. Does not seem to me to be what the Rangers need, now or ever.



Reirdan's career as an assistant in Washington:

"2014-15: 2.43 goals against per game, 7th in the NHL
2015-16: 2.33 goals against per game, 2nd in the NHL
2016-17: 2.16 goals against per game, 1st in the NHL
2017-18: 2.90 goals against per game, 16th in the NHL

In those four seasons combined, Washington allowed 2.45 goals per game, lower than every team in the NHL but one. He was also in charge of the team's lethal power play."


Does Trotz' success in LI with Korn make you pause for a second regarding Reirdan's defensive ability?
Question do you move him  
Carl in CT : 8/23/2020 3:11 pm : link
Without knowing what Hank is going to do?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Hate seeing people let go  
Anakim : 8/23/2020 5:09 pm : link
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In this environment. It’s tough, teams lost all momentum with the long layoff.

But in Reirdons case - two straight first round exits and more importantly the guy looks more like Kevin Malone from The Office than a nhl coach



I wonder if the Rangers will be interested to bring him aboard as an assistant. He helped coach the Capitals defense to a Stanley Cup only a couple of years ago. We happen to need a new "defensive coordinator." Seems like a natural fit.


Guy has been shown to be a repeat loser. Does not seem to me to be what the Rangers need, now or ever.



Reirdan's career as an assistant in Washington:

"2014-15: 2.43 goals against per game, 7th in the NHL
2015-16: 2.33 goals against per game, 2nd in the NHL
2016-17: 2.16 goals against per game, 1st in the NHL
2017-18: 2.90 goals against per game, 16th in the NHL

In those four seasons combined, Washington allowed 2.45 goals per game, lower than every team in the NHL but one. He was also in charge of the team's lethal power play."



Does Trotz' success in LI with Korn make you pause for a second regarding Reirdan's defensive ability?


It does, yeah. IDK, maybe it's not a slam-dunk after all. The Capitals success could be attributed to Reirden or it could've been all Trotz.
RE: Question do you move him  
Anakim : 8/23/2020 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14954986 Carl in CT said:
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Without knowing what Hank is going to do?


Well no trade is imminent. I would assume we'll know what Henrik is going to do by the time of the Draft.
I have read  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2020 7:27 pm : link
many people predict Hank to retire
Marc Andre Fleurys  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2020 7:44 pm : link
agent tweeted this. WTF?

MAF asked him to delete it so he did, and I guess an agent is supposed to support his client, but this kind of thing creates a distraction and put unnecessary pressure on the player.

Bruins  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2020 8:09 pm : link
Lightning on NBC.

I hate both teams, but hate the Bruins more.

I think the Bruins win, but would rather the Lightning.
My analysis  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2020 8:20 pm : link
Bruins Lightning will be decided by:

Specials: both teams have potentially lethal power plays. Stay out of the box.

Defense: Hedman, McDonagh Sergachev, Shattenkirk, Bogosian, and Cernak vs Chara, McAvoy, Carlo, Krug, Grzelcyk, and Clifton.

Both teams have deep D, but TBL stronger defensively. Krug and Grzelcyk can be pushed around in their D zone. TBL has to take advantage of the smaller Bruins D.

Goalie: Obviously Halak can be a starter, but he hasn't most of his career. He'll need to be on his game.

The forwards are obviously insanely skilled on both teams, so I'll call them a wash at 5v5, but no Stamkos could hurt TBL. He's not the elite player he once was, but still a team leader and solid two-way center.

Maybe he comes back later in the series. Not sure.
That is a WEAK  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2020 8:21 pm : link
call on Chara.

Boston/ILightening  
Percy : 8/23/2020 8:25 pm : link
Penalty for what? How about for jamming the end of the stick in a corner crunch into the spine of the other player?
(Sorry!)  
Percy : 8/23/2020 8:32 pm : link
For insane misspelling after no one would acknowledge what had happened there. Do not like Boston.
RE: Boston/ILightening  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2020 8:32 pm : link
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Penalty for what? How about for jamming the end of the stick in a corner crunch into the spine of the other player?


this is what you described?
Looks like a soccer player - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Boston/ILightening  
Percy : 8/23/2020 8:44 pm : link
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Penalty for what? How about for jamming the end of the stick in a corner crunch into the spine of the other player?



this is what you described? Looks like a soccer player - ( New Window )


It is. Did I exaggerate? Think he flopped?
RE: RE: RE: Boston/ILightening  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2020 8:50 pm : link
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Penalty for what? How about for jamming the end of the stick in a corner crunch into the spine of the other player?



this is what you described? Looks like a soccer player - ( New Window )



It is. Did I exaggerate? Think he flopped?


It sure looked that way to me. Chara barely touched him.

and I hate the Bruins and feel like they regularly get all the breaks.
Nice  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2020 8:57 pm : link
belt high tip by Coyle to go over Vasilevsky's shoulder to open the scoring.

Bruins up 1 - 0 end of 1.
Great In the Air Tip-In Goal For Boston  
Percy : 8/23/2020 8:59 pm : link
Impossible to stop that one. Great play.
Great pass  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2020 9:24 pm : link
by Krejci to Pasta on the PP, Pasta doesn't miss.

2 - 0 Bruins. Needs to stay out of the box against the Bruins.

15 left in the 2nd.
Another for Boston  
Percy : 8/23/2020 9:24 pm : link
Unrelenting pressure. Zone wasn't cleared even once. Lightening have to do better.
Tampa Bay Powerplay  
Percy : 8/23/2020 9:31 pm : link
Look disorganized. Too much meaningless passing, none unsettling the Bruin defenders until the very end and the last shot on goal.
RE: Tampa Bay Powerplay  
Route 9 : 8/23/2020 9:35 pm : link
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Look disorganized. Too much meaningless passing, none unsettling the Bruin defenders until the very end and the last shot on goal.


Same old Tampa Bay in the playoffs.
Halak  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2020 9:40 pm : link
playing on another level.

one of my keys to the game.
Halak  
Percy : 8/23/2020 9:40 pm : link
Pretty effective guy in the net.
Awful  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2020 9:43 pm : link
pinch by Bogosian there, just basically standing in no man's land on the blue line, let's debrusk go right by him for a 2 on 1.
LOL  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2020 9:45 pm : link
no idea how the bruins get the only penalty there.

can't say they're getting any favors from the refs so far (like they usually do).

TBL needs a goal
Getting Chippy!  
Percy : 8/23/2020 9:46 pm : link
Boston foul? Didn't see it.
Now the Lightning  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2020 9:51 pm : link
getting frustrated with Halak shutting the door - take a dumb offensive zone penalty.

A Bruins goal here may end this one (in the second period).
Still 2 - 0  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2020 9:58 pm : link
end of 2. Lightning might even be dominating play at 5v5, but not scoring. They're definitely dominating since the Bruins 2nd goal.
RE: Still 2 - 0  
Percy : 8/23/2020 10:00 pm : link
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end of 2. Lightning might even be dominating play at 5v5, but not scoring. They're definitely dominating since the Bruins 2nd goal.

They are and it's pretty to see, but no scores!
turnover  
pjcas18 : 8/23/2020 10:19 pm : link
by McDonagh results in a goal.

Turn out the lights. it's over.
3-0 Now  
Percy : 8/23/2020 10:20 pm : link
Easy, too.
RE: 3-0 Now  
Route 9 : 8/23/2020 10:33 pm : link
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Easy, too.


3-1. About time, Tampa Bay.
TB Gets Consolation Goal  
Percy : 8/23/2020 10:34 pm : link
3-1. Late, though.
RE: turnover  
Anakim : 8/23/2020 10:47 pm : link
In comment 14955094 pjcas18 said:
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by McDonagh results in a goal.

Turn out the lights. it's over.


Gorton was right in trading McDonagh when he did. He just received basically nothing. But McDonagh was going to sign a long-term, expensive extension in spite of the fact that he had a lot of tread on his tires.
One goal game with 1:14 to go  
Anakim : 8/23/2020 10:52 pm : link
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3-2 and 1-08 To Go!  
Percy : 8/23/2020 10:54 pm : link
No chance really.
Ends  
Percy : 8/23/2020 10:57 pm : link
Bruins played impressively. Tampa Bay? Sometimes, but have to get more shots in the net somehow.
RE: RE: turnover  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 8:36 am : link
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by McDonagh results in a goal.

Turn out the lights. it's over.



Gorton was right in trading McDonagh when he did. He just received basically nothing. But McDonagh was going to sign a long-term, expensive extension in spite of the fact that he had a lot of tread on his tires.


Seeing McDonagh plateau takes a little sting out of one of the worst trades ever.

Still could have used him on the Canadiens, and it doesn't take all the sting out, but watching him as a youngster I thought he'd be in the Norris conversation if his offense developed.

TB just did not look impressive to me  
ColHowPepper : 8/24/2020 8:57 am : link
Rarely applied meaningful pressure, a lot of skating in Boston's end but not a lot of effective shotmaking. Halak was good, but not lights out. Hedman's goal was flukey, a what-the-hell wrister from not that far inside the BL, a deflection or two and red light on. All imo. Bruins were more aggressive and generally quicker to the puck. Marchand is such a little t..t...

Coyle's (a Weymouth kid) deflection was kind of cool because cameras captured it so clearly. Often, it's so fast, so slight, and buried in traffic, harder to see. An art form.
LVG  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 9:57 am : link
rolls.

Who did I predict? BOS vs LVG? Watching game 1's I stand behind that.

Tonight:
NYI vs PHI at 07:00 pm on NBCSN, if NYI play like round 1 and PHI plays like round 1, NYI makes quick work of the Flyers.

DAL vs COL at 09:45pm on NBCSN, DAL leads 1 - 0, fun game 1 and I think this will be a fun series


not viewable channel on my service carried LVK  
ColHowPepper : 8/24/2020 12:02 pm : link
(I did venture that Van would not match up well)
RE: RE: As one of the resident Caps fans here, I offer my congrats  
tony stg : 8/24/2020 12:53 pm : link
In comment 14954427 Diversify yo bonds said:
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to the Islanders, their fans, and especially Coach Trotz (who will always be one of my guys). Good luck in the next round.



Classy.

What's your thought on the Caps' showing? I think the attrition of roster departures post cup is evident. The bottom of the roster really misses guys like Beagle, Burakovsky, Connolly, etc.

I've always been a Kovy fan, but sad trombone for his performance.

Sorry for the delay, Dyb. The Caps performance was lousy no matter how you slice it. The performance of the blue line crew was terrible. Unacceptable level of turn overs, failure to clear the zone, failure to clear the crease, and leaving men unguarded. Game 1 loss was on Holtby with horrible play. There was no Samsonov as a backup because he played the fool with his ATV back home during the pause. Also can’t go 5 games and get goals from only 3 guys.

With all that, the Caps should have won Game 1, could have won Game 3 when Vrana had the breakaway in OT, and did win Game 4. The Caps really could have won the series, or at least made it more competitive. Credit to the Isles for making the most of their chances and clamping down when they needed to. They were the better team.

By now we all know that Rierden is gone. I may have given him one more year since this year has been so abnormal, but if the organization doesn’t think he’s the guy then it’s the right move. If Samsonov can recover from his injuries he should be the guy in goal and Holtby should be allowed to pursue other opportunities. If Samsonov can’t be there at the start of the next season then I’m not sure. I’m OK with most of the 4 lines, but they have lost depth (the guys you mentioned). The defense needs a lot of work.
This kind of shit  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 6:23 pm : link
comes out for every losing team. I'm not doubting it, I'm in awe of it - especially Bennett and Andersson.

NHL News
@puck_report2
· 1h
Calgary #Flames
injury updates, per GM Brad Treliving:
- Matthew Tkachuk was dealing with a concussion
- Rasmus Andersson was playing with a broken foot
- Sam Bennett tore a tricep in the WPG series. Played through it
NYI  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 7:18 pm : link
dominating zone time early and Andy Greene opens the scoring with a blast from the point.
Hayes  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 7:24 pm : link
stopped on the breakaway - I think he missed 3 or 4 in the Canadiens series.
Seems like the period  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 7:31 pm : link
is flying by. Not a lot of whistles, good fundamental hockey. Good forechecks, solid hits, sound D (mostly).
Hart  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 7:38 pm : link
just robbed Nelson, NYI forecheck is relentless.

If they keep it up PHI will have no answer.

When you dominate like this (12 - 3 in shots) you need to score more of your opponent comes back and steals the momentum
Fleers pushing back...  
trueblueinpw : 8/24/2020 8:30 pm : link
Like a swarm of bees. Isles gotta be gassed.
Ice tilted  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 8:31 pm : link
the opposite way, Varlamov holding his ground, and the NYI clogging up the middle so the puck is in the Flyers possession, but not in high danger areas/not too many legit scoring chances.

playing with fire though. Eventually one of those point shots will hit a skate, stick or catch a screen and find the back of the net.

Need to stop chasing in the zone, and limit the zone time.
Catching up on ads now...  
trueblueinpw : 8/24/2020 8:35 pm : link
I think JD is fairly awful. Just not a fan.
Huge goal  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 9:04 pm : link
for NYI, withstanding the storm, they get it out, have a nice forecheck and JGP goes top shelf.

2 - 0 NYI under 17 left in the game
Andy Greene  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 9:13 pm : link
went 10 years in between playoff goals.

I was hoping Kovalchuk scored because I feel like it would have been at least that long too.

but man, Kovy looked cooked and Reirden kept trotting him out on the power play.

And the Caps sent MTL a 3rd for Kovy in Feb. Ouch.
NYI break it open  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 9:15 pm : link
they're looking solid in all facets.

odd man rush, great pass by Barzal to Lee to put the NYI up 3 - 0. 11 min left in the game.
Seemed like AV  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 9:26 pm : link
panicked and pulled Hart with 7+ min left down 3.

NYI (Quinnipiac alum Devon Toews) rims one around for the ENG to put the NYI up 4 - 0.

5 plus left in the game and maybe the first penalty of the game (or if not, there hasn't been many).
RE: Seemed like AV  
Mike in NY : 8/24/2020 9:28 pm : link
In comment 14955635 pjcas18 said:
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panicked and pulled Hart with 7+ min left down 3.

NYI (Quinnipiac alum Devon Toews) rims one around for the ENG to put the NYI up 4 - 0.

5 plus left in the game and maybe the first penalty of the game (or if not, there hasn't been many).


Philly had an interference early, but it really has been clean game
RE: RE: Seemed like AV  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 9:31 pm : link
In comment 14955636 Mike in NY said:
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panicked and pulled Hart with 7+ min left down 3.

NYI (Quinnipiac alum Devon Toews) rims one around for the ENG to put the NYI up 4 - 0.

5 plus left in the game and maybe the first penalty of the game (or if not, there hasn't been many).



Philly had an interference early, but it really has been clean game


And well officiated (for a change), I don't think they missed much.
RE: RE: RE: Seemed like AV  
Mike in NY : 8/24/2020 9:36 pm : link
In comment 14955638 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14955635 pjcas18 said:


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panicked and pulled Hart with 7+ min left down 3.

NYI (Quinnipiac alum Devon Toews) rims one around for the ENG to put the NYI up 4 - 0.

5 plus left in the game and maybe the first penalty of the game (or if not, there hasn't been many).



Philly had an interference early, but it really has been clean game



And well officiated (for a change), I don't think they missed much.


Wes McCauley and Eric Furlatt are the two most experienced referees in Toronto with Kevin Pollock injured.
Total  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 9:36 pm : link
domination, all facets.

NYI win 4 - 0.
beautiful to see  
KDubbs : 8/24/2020 9:37 pm : link
1 down 3 to go. it seemed to me philly didnt want to be hit. thought they were more physical than this
RE: Andy Greene  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 9:41 pm : link
In comment 14955631 pjcas18 said:
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went 10 years in between playoff goals.

I was hoping Kovalchuk scored because I feel like it would have been at least that long too.

but man, Kovy looked cooked and Reirden kept trotting him out on the power play.

And the Caps sent MTL a 3rd for Kovy in Feb. Ouch.


Ironically to my post they just showed a clip of Greene scoring a playoff goal 10 years ago, and I'm pretty sure Kovalchuk was on the ice for the goal.
RE: Seemed like AV  
JayBinQueens : 8/24/2020 9:43 pm : link
In comment 14955635 pjcas18 said:
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panicked and pulled Hart with 7+ min left down 3.


Would have been nice for the broadcast to mention the goalie was pulled. Definitely was a great surprise to see
RE: RE: Seemed like AV  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 9:48 pm : link
In comment 14955645 JayBinQueens said:
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panicked and pulled Hart with 7+ min left down 3.




Would have been nice for the broadcast to mention the goalie was pulled. Definitely was a great surprise to see


Yeah, they didn't say anything, but I noticed the extra attacker and could tell Toews knew what he was doing.

Hockey does need some better announcers though.

Kenny Albert is about the best they have here I think.

I like Doc Emmerich too, but he's losing a little bit from his fastball.
RE: RE: RE: Seemed like AV  
Mike in NY : 8/24/2020 9:50 pm : link
In comment 14955646 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14955635 pjcas18 said:


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panicked and pulled Hart with 7+ min left down 3.




Would have been nice for the broadcast to mention the goalie was pulled. Definitely was a great surprise to see



Yeah, they didn't say anything, but I noticed the extra attacker and could tell Toews knew what he was doing.

Hockey does need some better announcers though.

Kenny Albert is about the best they have here I think.

I like Doc Emmerich too, but he's losing a little bit from his fastball.


Maybe I am biased, but I miss Brendan Burke.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Seemed like AV  
KDubbs : 8/24/2020 9:59 pm : link
In comment 14955649 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 14955645 JayBinQueens said:


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panicked and pulled Hart with 7+ min left down 3.




Would have been nice for the broadcast to mention the goalie was pulled. Definitely was a great surprise to see



Yeah, they didn't say anything, but I noticed the extra attacker and could tell Toews knew what he was doing.

Hockey does need some better announcers though.

Kenny Albert is about the best they have here I think.

I like Doc Emmerich too, but he's losing a little bit from his fastball.



Maybe I am biased, but I miss Brendan Burke.


they would never let him do Isles. i think nbcsn has mostly had him do west coast games. i was so upset when howie left and brendan didnt do it for me at first, prob because of being such a howie fan, but now he is awesome. so mad the nhl does this.
RE: RE: RE: Seemed like AV  
JayBinQueens : 8/24/2020 10:04 pm : link
In comment 14955646 pjcas18 said:
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panicked and pulled Hart with 7+ min left down 3.




Would have been nice for the broadcast to mention the goalie was pulled. Definitely was a great surprise to see



Yeah, they didn't say anything, but I noticed the extra attacker and could tell Toews knew what he was doing.

Hockey does need some better announcers though.



Echoing the others, Brendan is great. Though I think the bigger issue is that they aren't in the arena, but using their own feeds? Unless that was just the regional broadcasts for the 1st round...
MacKinnon is a runaway moose  
Davisian : 8/24/2020 10:10 pm : link
Every damn shift
RE: MacKinnon is a runaway moose  
JayBinQueens : 8/24/2020 10:12 pm : link
In comment 14955654 Davisian said:
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Every damn shift


Maybe recency bias, but I would rather him than McDavid if I was starting a team
Also location bias for me  
Davisian : 8/24/2020 10:18 pm : link
But fuck is he getting after it.
RE: Also location bias for me  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 10:20 pm : link
In comment 14955661 Davisian said:
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But fuck is he getting after it.


we had this discussion a few pages ago, lol.

Agree. MacKinnon goes before McDavid if I'm picking a team.
Lengthy  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 11:08 pm : link
5 on 3 coming up (1:17) for the Stars, down 2 - 0 halfway through the game.
Quick  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 11:08 pm : link
work by the Stars, cut the lead in half and now a lengthy PP still to go.
That Heiskanen  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 11:10 pm : link
zone entry was like butter.

Stars tie it up (pending review)
You go to the box  
trueblueinpw : 8/24/2020 11:10 pm : link
You feel shame.
all 4 goals  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 11:11 pm : link
so far on the PP.

Avs back to the man advantage.

so much skill in this game.
That  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 11:13 pm : link
was a weak call IMO.
over the glass  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 11:15 pm : link
delay of game on the Stars.

5 on 3 now for a min for the Avs
Radulov  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 11:22 pm : link
with the deflection off his body stuns the Avs and puts the Stars up 3 - 2.
Terrible coverage there...  
trueblueinpw : 8/24/2020 11:23 pm : link
One job: show the game.
Dallas  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 11:29 pm : link
rolling, score just after the PK expired.

4 - 2 Stars.

No one in front of the net to move Lindell.
Wow...  
trueblueinpw : 8/24/2020 11:29 pm : link
Good things happen when you shot the puck.
Lindell doesn’t need another look  
trueblueinpw : 8/24/2020 11:32 pm : link
.
NHL bubble  
pjcas18 : 8/24/2020 11:50 pm : link
attendance shrinking, and testing remains strong.

Really solid work by the NHL...  
trueblueinpw : 8/25/2020 12:11 am : link
I’d love to know more about how they got all this together. And how they’re able to keep it together. Regardless, I am grateful there’s Stanley Cup hockey.
Bettman's best move was waiting to last minute for bubble locations  
Eric on Li : 8/25/2020 12:26 am : link
they seemed highly likely to make Vegas 1 of the spots and early on it seemed like Canada would turn them down and they'd have 2 US locations, but in the end they waited and got to a set up in a place where everything is very under control and they seemed to have built a really solid bubble.

The NBA deserves credit too because they made a bubble strong enough to withstand a state that's been rapidly rising. All their technology stuff seemingly worked and even their fan cams in the games are kind of novel.

both leagues did a great job and ran circles around MLB - which is nuts because they are an outdoor, non contact sport who had other baseball leagues to model which should have made it a lot easier.

hopefully all of the leagues will learn enough operationally to help the NFL and CFB get through the fall.
COL  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 8:44 am : link
in a 0 - 2 hole, DAL and NYI looking Lord-Stanley-Ish, but so do BOS and LVG.

Today's games

BOS vs TBL at 07:00pm on NBCSN, BOS leads 1 - 0
VAN vs LVG at 09:45pm on NBCSN, LVG leads 1 - 0
Looks as if my Flyers weren't even close last night  
Route 9 : 8/25/2020 8:47 am : link
Islanders played some good defense, huh?
RE: Looks as if my Flyers weren't even close last night  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 9:08 am : link
In comment 14955739 Route 9 said:
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Islanders played some good defense, huh?


stifling and Varlamov was solid too.

typical Trotz team performance, when PHI had possession it was outside the dots, not many second chances, just a solid overall scheme.
It was closer than the final score  
MetsAreBack : 8/25/2020 9:11 am : link
Philly dominated the 2nd period, just couldn't get it past Varlamov. Once it was 2-0 in the 3rd the game felt over though - Trotz' teams are tough to score against in the postseason (except Carolina last year)
RE: It was closer than the final score  
Route 9 : 8/25/2020 9:40 am : link
In comment 14955762 MetsAreBack said:
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Philly dominated the 2nd period, just couldn't get it past Varlamov. Once it was 2-0 in the 3rd the game felt over though - Trotz' teams are tough to score against in the postseason (except Carolina last year)


4-0 is 4-0.
A hot goalie can carry a pedestrian team to the Cup  
trueblueinpw : 8/25/2020 11:14 am : link
I know the Isles aren’t there yet, and as a Ranger fan I can’t say I’m pulling for them. But they’re making a run with a pretty pedestrian team and a goalie that seems to be hot at just the right time.
I don't think the  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 11:23 am : link
NYI vs PHI game last night was as close as it seemed.

yeah, the 2nd period PHI dominated zone time, but not a lot of quality scoring chances, the Islanders are great about keeping the puck outside the danger areas.

Look at the shot map, they didn't have a ton of high danger chances.

Hard to see here, but just a handful of shot attempts between the dots.

trades can still happen?  
KDubbs : 8/25/2020 11:26 am : link
didnt know this
Link - ( New Window )
RE: trades can still happen?  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 11:46 am : link
In comment 14955842 KDubbs said:
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didnt know this Link - ( New Window )


Is that real? I'm surprised you can trade now too.

I wonder what the return is, Kapanen is fast, but I think has underperformed so far.
RE: RE: trades can still happen?  
Anakim : 8/25/2020 11:52 am : link
In comment 14955853 pjcas18 said:
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didnt know this Link - ( New Window )



Is that real? I'm surprised you can trade now too.

I wonder what the return is, Kapanen is fast, but I think has underperformed so far.


Yes, non-playoff teams can trade. Actually, the Rangers and Islanders' last trade with each other was during the Playoffs. Jyri Niemi.
Kdubbs, pjcas  
Drewcon40 : 8/25/2020 11:53 am : link
To Anakim's point, I also believe Adam Fox was traded to the Rangers from Carolina, while they were still in the playoffs last year?
Big trade  
Anakim : 8/25/2020 12:01 pm : link
.  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 12:03 pm : link
Rob Rossi
@Real_RobRossi
· 5m
Details for Penguins:
RW Kasperi Kapanen
D Jesper Lindgren
LW Pontus Aberg

Maples Leafs getting:
2020 Rd 1 pick (15 overall)
LW Evan Rodrigues
C Filip Hallander
D David Warsofsky

#Pens | @TheAthleticPGH | @TheAthleticNHL

please forgive any type
.  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 12:05 pm : link
Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
·
1m
Instant Analysis: Pittsburgh overpaid. First rounder for a soft third line player.
RE: .  
Anakim : 8/25/2020 12:09 pm : link
In comment 14955869 pjcas18 said:
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Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
·
1m
Instant Analysis: Pittsburgh overpaid. First rounder for a soft third line player.


They also got Hallander back, who was apparently a top-3 prospect in the Penguins farm.


Very odd trade for Pittsburgh, but I'm not complaining. Fuck that team.
RE: .  
Anakim : 8/25/2020 12:12 pm : link
In comment 14955869 pjcas18 said:
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Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
·
1m
Instant Analysis: Pittsburgh overpaid. First rounder for a soft third line player.


Imagine what Strome and Buchnevich could net!
Pens  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 12:16 pm : link
feeling like they need to maximize the team while Crosby, Malkin and Letang are still pre-AARP.

I think it's a mistake, but they don't have much choice.
RE: Pens  
Mike in NY : 8/25/2020 12:33 pm : link
In comment 14955887 pjcas18 said:
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feeling like they need to maximize the team while Crosby, Malkin and Letang are still pre-AARP.

I think it's a mistake, but they don't have much choice.


I get why they are doing it, but it seems like an awfully high price to pay. That being said, they could be looking towards the expansion draft and were getting rid of players they would have to expose anyway or would have to trade other assets to retain.
I'm  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 12:44 pm : link
admittedly bad at predicting trades or trade value but I'd definitely take the Toronto side of this trade.

In this draft, while I don't think it's very deep, the top 15 is like a normal top 10 because from 3 - 15 or so the players are mostly interchangeable.
Rutherford needs to learn a new name  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 1:10 pm : link
lol, fortunately there is another Kapanen in this draft.

SHoKTee
@akaRCN
· 15m
Jim Rutherford has now drafted Sami Kapanen, traded Sami Kapanen, drafted Kasperi Kapanen, traded Kasperi Kapanen, and traded for Kasperi Kapanen.
McDonagh  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 1:14 pm : link
out for game 2.

As well regarded as Hedman is, he is not great defensively and makes some ill-thought out pinches, this will hurt TBL.

BOS should win and move closer to back to back ECF.
Penguins  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 2:15 pm : link
getting absolutely crucified on social media.

It does get me to thinking though, if Kapanen gets a teams top 5 prospect and the #15 pick in the draft, I wonder what Max Domi would get back in a trade.

He's better than Kapanen.

Domi is a UFA and Kapanen has two years, but the gap between them is wide, so maybe Domi gets a top 10 pick.

I think he's gone, and I like him, but he doesn't really fit on MTL. He's redundant.
Penguins  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 2:20 pm : link
also shopping Matt Murray, and think they'll get a huge haul back.

Again, trade value is not my forte, but I don't see it. Other than the two playoff runs (and I realize that may sound Eli Manning-ish), he's been very mediocre (or worse).

Difference with Eli is Murray has rings, but no MVPs, Murray was good, but not why they won.
RE: Seemed like AV  
ColHowPepper : 8/25/2020 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14955646 pjcas18 said:
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Yeah, they didn't say anything, but I noticed the extra attacker and could tell Toews knew what he was doing.
Hockey does need some better announcers though.

Kenny Albert is about the best they have here I think.

I like Doc Emmerich too, but he's losing a little bit from his fastball.
Wow, I think he's the least able of all of them this summer, poor fluidity, lots of pauses because he does not synthesize the action very well and convey a lot with fewer words. Doc may be losing a bit (I agree), but he's still far superior, imv.
Varlamov  
ColHowPepper : 8/25/2020 3:27 pm : link
has been excellent. Greene (I think in one of the intermission interviews) said something I had been thinking all night and vs Caps: "He is seeing the puck well."

Isn't he though! The traffic may be heavy in front, but he seems to have a sixth sense how to position himself (and his glove when need be) where the puck will exit the scrum.

On the other hand: Khudobin, I counted three, maybe five saves when he had no idea where the puck was and it just hits him in the chest protector or his mask, oh, thank you, then drops it and he cradles it then with his glove.

In general, it seems to be, with teams remaining, the keepers and their pads are just so huge (not so much Varlamov) that as long as they can kind of scoot on their knees hall hockey style they have a good chance to stop a shot, open areas of the net are small.

Shestyorkin is a real exception to the trend. And I'm biased: I loved the stand-up style of Vachon, the movement of Plante, even Glen Hall who was down on the ice more than most of his vintage was a small man compared to these behemoths. Another contrast, Giacomin, lithe and quick as his Cat Emile. Dryden was maybe the first who was outsized, and he was just big and tall, not as thick as these guys now. Red Wings' keeper of a decade ago, another example of small format. end of rant
Doc is like 75 years old.  
Route 9 : 8/25/2020 3:36 pm : link
Gonna suck when he's done calling games.
Khudobin and Halak  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 3:46 pm : link
are almost too short to be NHL goalies today. They are both listed at 5' 10" - I think that's generous.

other remaining goalies:

Ben Bishop: 6' 7" (reportedly skating)
Markstrom: 6' 6"
Lehner: 6' 4"/MAF 6' 2"
Hart: 6' 2"
Varlamov: 6' 2"
Vasilevsky: 6' 2"
Grubauer: 6' 1"/Francouz: 6'


And Rask was 6' 3"
Khudobin may be short  
ColHowPepper : 8/25/2020 3:58 pm : link
but he's a wide body. By contrast, among those you list (thanks for the detail), Hart is built like a runway model compared to the rest.
LOL  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 6:51 pm : link
twitter crushing Pierre McGuire:

Pierre McGuire on @JoeandEvan on Alexis Lafreniere:

“Is he a Connor McDavid? No. A Nathan MacKinnon? No. He’s not the kind of player who can take over games as a winger. But he’s a spectacular player and is going to be a huge part of the Rangers moving forward.”
Broken  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 7:18 pm : link
stick by Bogosian, leads to a rush the other way, a puck under Vasilevsky and into the net.

Bruins up 1 - 0 (possible review?)
Lightning  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 7:21 pm : link
show some hears, answer back, with a tipped shot from the point off Halak's shoulder.

1 - 1
RE: Lightning  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 7:22 pm : link
In comment 14956086 pjcas18 said:
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show some hears, answer back, with a tipped shot from the point off Halak's shoulder.

1 - 1


under review, might have been offsides. stupid rule.
Are they piping in crowd noise?  
trueblueinpw : 8/25/2020 7:22 pm : link
I haven’t heard that before.
RE: Are they piping in crowd noise?  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 7:24 pm : link
In comment 14956088 trueblueinpw said:
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I haven’t heard that before.


to the broadcast, not in the rink.
No  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 7:24 pm : link
goal. offsides.
Oooaf...  
trueblueinpw : 8/25/2020 7:24 pm : link
By a foot...
RE: LOL  
BrettNYG10 : 8/25/2020 7:24 pm : link
In comment 14956069 pjcas18 said:
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twitter crushing Pierre McGuire:

Pierre McGuire on @JoeandEvan on Alexis Lafreniere:

“Is he a Connor McDavid? No. A Nathan MacKinnon? No. He’s not the kind of player who can take over games as a winger. But he’s a spectacular player and is going to be a huge part of the Rangers moving forward.”


Damn, I can’t believe he isn’t going to be one of the two best players in the game.
I hate this offsides rule.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/25/2020 7:25 pm : link
.
Love to see the  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 7:39 pm : link
possession metrics for that period. Did the Bruins ever even have the puck other than the goal?

Doesn't matter, they lead 1 - 0
RE: Love to see the  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 7:40 pm : link
In comment 14956109 pjcas18 said:
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possession metrics for that period. Did the Bruins ever even have the puck other than the goal?

Doesn't matter, they lead 1 - 0


*so far* period is obviously not over
This ones  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 7:44 pm : link
not coming back, bogosian splits the D and dishes to Coleman who ties it at 1. 7 left in the first.
Good game in Toronto  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 9:02 pm : link
teams trade goals in the 2nd, and it's tied at 2 after 2.
Halak  
Mike in NY : 8/25/2020 9:31 pm : link
With his trademark softie
RE: Halak  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 9:33 pm : link
In comment 14956149 Mike in NY said:
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With his trademark softie


been waiting for it, so far no Tuukka hasn't hurt enough.
Boston needs Rask  
Route 9 : 8/25/2020 9:34 pm : link
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Marchand  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 9:40 pm : link
is such a douche, but he's a good player. unfortunately.
Overtime  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 9:47 pm : link
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Expired. Expired. Expired.  
Route 9 : 8/25/2020 9:58 pm : link
God damn, that commercial sucks ass. #RealTalk
RE: Expired. Expired. Expired.  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14956157 Route 9 said:
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God damn, that commercial sucks ass. #RealTalk


You have an ant problem. It's better than the rat problem one, but that's a low bar I guess.
I do have an aunt Joan, too.  
Route 9 : 8/25/2020 10:05 pm : link
Annoying as one narcissistic aunt from Bergen County can be.
TBL  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 10:09 pm : link
evens the series.
Haha. Tampa Bay wins.  
Route 9 : 8/25/2020 10:09 pm : link
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Nice forecheck  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 10:09 pm : link
forced the Bruins D into turnovers.
Pettersson  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 11:20 pm : link
is smooth.

Dekes Lehner - puts VAN up 3 - 1 with 1min+ left in the 2nd.
this is the fun  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2020 11:46 pm : link
Canucks team I was hoping for, they keep up this pace they can hang with LVG and neutralize the size disadvantage.
Interesting reversal of fortune in game 2 of Vegas v the Canucks  
Torrag : 8/26/2020 12:57 am : link
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Canucks with a strong game 2  
Route 9 : 8/26/2020 8:11 am : link
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3 games today  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2020 8:28 am : link
NYI vs PHI at 03:00PM on NBCSN, NYI leads series 2 - 0
TBL vs BOS at 08:00PM on NBCSN, series tied at 1
COL vs DAL at 10;30pm on NBCSN, DAL leads series 2 - 0

BOS considering a change in net, Bruins may turn to recently extended Dan Vladar.

Vladar, 23, is a 2015 3rd round draft pick from Czech Republic. I don't think he has any NHL experience, but he was recently extended for 3 years (Halak is a UFA after the season, so Vladar could be the backup in 2021).
RE: RE: Are they piping in crowd noise?  
ColHowPepper : 8/26/2020 8:34 am : link
In comment 14956089 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14956088 trueblueinpw said:
Quote: I haven’t heard that before.

to the broadcast, not in the rink.
I have to say I like it from perspective of the viewer at home. I think radio network for Yankees' games is doing the same.
RE: Marchand  
ColHowPepper : 8/26/2020 8:41 am : link
In comment 14956154 pjcas18 said:
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is such a douche, but he's a good player. unfortunately.
Yup. His effort in particular, and his line's generally, on his two goals was outstanding. He was knocked to ice a couple of times, 'left for dead', came back to burn 'em.

Before that, the camera close-up following the scrum triggered by Marchand's whack at Vasilevskiy where one of TBL d-men had Marchand in a tight headlock and was whispering sweet nothings in Marchand's ear, with him seeming to nod affirmatively in response, was hilarious. He's then shown back on the bench after that shift, helmet-less, looking a tad chastened.

Didn't last long though.
Game was a barn burner.  
ColHowPepper : 8/26/2020 8:46 am : link
The type that I wish had fans in the building to recognize the caliber of the contest, the players' efforts, the outstanding plays.

I think the difference that I saw from Sunday night was Lightning commitment to forecheck and dig, dig, dig along the boards. It mattered.

McGuire, on Joe and Evan someone mentioned above (I listened to just a part before getting to the track): he was waxing ecstatic over the Isles, praising ownership, Lamoriello, Lou's son, and the move to sign Trotz. No question the signings of Greene and Pageaux have been huge. You'd think he was talking about the great Oilers teams or Isles of yore.
Marchessault  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2020 9:07 am : link
getting skewered by Canucks twitter for diving and he's losing his shit, it's hilarious.
Here is a potential  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2020 12:42 pm : link
landing spot for Georgiev IMO.

I think it's about money more than anything, I think TOR would prefer Lehner or Markstrom (or others) - maybe even Holtby, but not sure how the Kapenen trade helps them but generally I don't think they have a ton of cap space.

Quote:
Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
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Frederik Andersen has requested/ prefers to be traded as long as it works out for both sides. #LeafsForever
RE: Here is a potential  
Mike in NY : 8/26/2020 12:51 pm : link
In comment 14956462 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
landing spot for Georgiev IMO.

I think it's about money more than anything, I think TOR would prefer Lehner or Markstrom (or others) - maybe even Holtby, but not sure how the Kapenen trade helps them but generally I don't think they have a ton of cap space.



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Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
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Frederik Andersen has requested/ prefers to be traded as long as it works out for both sides. #LeafsForever




Toronto isn't going to trade for Georgiev if he costs the same or more than what they get for Andersen. Not to mention with Campbell around I think they are looking more for someone like Lehner/Thomas Greiss-type who won't hurt you if they had to play everyday, but are better suited for platoon roles. I could see Carolina having interest in in Andersen at the right price as Reimer/Mrazek could be improved upon if Carolina wants to challenge in the playoffs. Not to mention they would actually play defense in front of him unlike Toronto (although they made progress under Keefe).
Frederick Anderson  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2020 12:59 pm : link
makes $5M per year.

My assumption is that Georgiev will get an RFA deal maybe in the $2 - $3M range, not a $5M per year contract.

RE: Frederick Anderson  
Mike in NY : 8/26/2020 1:01 pm : link
In comment 14956481 pjcas18 said:
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makes $5M per year.

My assumption is that Georgiev will get an RFA deal maybe in the $2 - $3M range, not a $5M per year contract.


I am talking about capital. The Leafs are not going to trade Andersen for a 2nd only to give a 2nd or a 1st for Georgiev with Campbell around and the ability to just sign someone like Lehner or Greiss.
I think it depends  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2020 1:09 pm : link
on $$$ with Toronto.

They already have $72M committed on the 2020-2021 cap with just 16 contracts.

They have almost no wings on their roster after Marner and Jonsson (one LW and one RW) and they're losing a bulk of their D (shitty D, but still) Ceci and Barrie are UFA's, Dermott is an RFA.

The whole reason they may find Georgiev attractive is he'd *only* cost draft picks (or prospects) and would land a reasonable RFA contract.





wow - this is huge  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2020 2:06 pm : link
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For Immediate Release

NEW YORK (August 26, 2020) -- The National Hockey League has sanctioned the Arizona Coyotes for violating the NHL's Combine Testing Policy during the 2019-20 season, directing the forfeiture of the Club’s 2nd-round pick in the 2020 NHL Draft and 1st-round pick in the 2021 NHL Draft.



The sanctions were announced by Commissioner Gary Bettman, who convened a hearing on the matter August 6 that included testimony from representatives of the Coyotes and the NHL. At the outset of the hearing, the Club acknowledged that it had violated the Policy by conducting physical testing on 2020 draft-eligible players prior to the Combine.



In reaching his decision, Commissioner Bettman outlined key reasons for the Policy’s prohibition on physical testing prior to the Combine: to ensure competitive fairness among Clubs with respect to evaluating and drafting prospects and to avoid subjecting prospects to repeated and duplicative testing procedures.



The sanctions were imposed under Article 6.3 of the NHL Constitution, which authorizes the Commissioner to impose discipline "if he determines . . . that any person . . . has either violated the Constitution, the By-Laws, or any other governing rule or regulation of the League, or has been or is guilty of conduct . . . detrimental to the League or the game of hockey."



Further, Article 6.3 empowers the Commissioner to deprive the offending Club of draft choices "if the conduct in question affects the competitive aspects of the game."



"While the Combine Testing Policy Memoranda reference a fine of “no less than $250,000 for each violation” of the Policy, I exercise my discretion to impose the aforementioned discipline—which I consider to be more appropriate given the specific circumstances of this case," said Commissioner Bettman.



"As for the Club personnel who participated in, or may have contributed to, the Club’s violation of the Policy, I have decided that no discipline shall be imposed on these individuals. While I conclude that certain Club personnel acted in a grossly negligent manner at best, which was conceded by the Club, I ultimately conclude that the record does not establish—to a standard with which I am comfortable—that those individuals engaged in intentional wrongdoing, as opposed to grossly negligent behavior."



The NHL will not comment further on this matter.
If I were a team  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2020 2:57 pm : link
like the Rangers, Devils, habs, senators, etc. with many top 3 round drat picks, I'd be on the phone with ARI.

If they re-sign Hall they don't pick before the 4th round for the next two drafts.

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CapFriendly
@CapFriendly
· 35m
As a result of today's sanctions by the league on the Arizona #Coyotes, the club now finds itself without a 1st, 2nd or 3rd RD pick in the 2020 draft

They also do not have a 1st or 3rd in 2021

IF they resign Hall, they will not have a 1st or 2nd in 2021

https://capfriendly.com/teams/coyotes
well  
KDubbs : 8/26/2020 3:49 pm : link
that sucked
RE: well  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2020 4:10 pm : link
In comment 14956619 KDubbs said:
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that sucked


I forgot it even started.

WTF?
RE: If I were a team  
Anakim : 8/26/2020 4:10 pm : link
In comment 14956585 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
like the Rangers, Devils, habs, senators, etc. with many top 3 round drat picks, I'd be on the phone with ARI.

If they re-sign Hall they don't pick before the 4th round for the next two drafts.



Quote:


CapFriendly
@CapFriendly
· 35m
As a result of today's sanctions by the league on the Arizona #Coyotes, the club now finds itself without a 1st, 2nd or 3rd RD pick in the 2020 draft

They also do not have a 1st or 3rd in 2021

IF they resign Hall, they will not have a 1st or 2nd in 2021

https://capfriendly.com/teams/coyotes



I'd try to trade the Carolina pick for Chychrun. I'd also look into getting Dvorak and Schmaltz. Keller would probably cost too much.
Isles pull one back  
Pete in MD : 8/26/2020 4:27 pm : link
on the PP.
Niskanen  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2020 4:33 pm : link
headhunting again, let's hear AV tell us it's because Niskanen is so tall.
link - ( New Window )
Isles pushing here  
Metnut : 8/26/2020 4:34 pm : link
Would be great to get one more before the intermission
that Coyotes story is so bizarre  
Eric on Li : 8/26/2020 5:00 pm : link
that seems like such a stupid rule to break, and such an easy one to get reported by agents.

Varlamov finally had a stinker but at least it was semi-good timing early on in the first half of a back to back.

90 seconds of PP to start the 3rd, NYI have to get some momentum on the forecheck because if they can do that they will put the pressure on the flyers to bunker in and defend the lead which is never easy to do. Can't make it easy on them.
RE: wow - this is huge  
BrettNYG10 : 8/26/2020 5:12 pm : link
In comment 14956540 pjcas18 said:
Quote:


Quote:


For Immediate Release

NEW YORK (August 26, 2020) -- The National Hockey League has sanctioned the Arizona Coyotes for violating the NHL's Combine Testing Policy during the 2019-20 season, directing the forfeiture of the Club’s 2nd-round pick in the 2020 NHL Draft and 1st-round pick in the 2021 NHL Draft.



The sanctions were announced by Commissioner Gary Bettman, who convened a hearing on the matter August 6 that included testimony from representatives of the Coyotes and the NHL. At the outset of the hearing, the Club acknowledged that it had violated the Policy by conducting physical testing on 2020 draft-eligible players prior to the Combine.



In reaching his decision, Commissioner Bettman outlined key reasons for the Policy’s prohibition on physical testing prior to the Combine: to ensure competitive fairness among Clubs with respect to evaluating and drafting prospects and to avoid subjecting prospects to repeated and duplicative testing procedures.



The sanctions were imposed under Article 6.3 of the NHL Constitution, which authorizes the Commissioner to impose discipline "if he determines . . . that any person . . . has either violated the Constitution, the By-Laws, or any other governing rule or regulation of the League, or has been or is guilty of conduct . . . detrimental to the League or the game of hockey."



Further, Article 6.3 empowers the Commissioner to deprive the offending Club of draft choices "if the conduct in question affects the competitive aspects of the game."



"While the Combine Testing Policy Memoranda reference a fine of “no less than $250,000 for each violation” of the Policy, I exercise my discretion to impose the aforementioned discipline—which I consider to be more appropriate given the specific circumstances of this case," said Commissioner Bettman.



"As for the Club personnel who participated in, or may have contributed to, the Club’s violation of the Policy, I have decided that no discipline shall be imposed on these individuals. While I conclude that certain Club personnel acted in a grossly negligent manner at best, which was conceded by the Club, I ultimately conclude that the record does not establish—to a standard with which I am comfortable—that those individuals engaged in intentional wrongdoing, as opposed to grossly negligent behavior."



The NHL will not comment further on this matter.



What the hell did they possibly do?
Beau  
Pete in MD : 8/26/2020 5:18 pm : link
makes it interesting. 3-2
Strong ruling for violating a policy with minimal competitive impact  
Torrag : 8/26/2020 5:20 pm : link
So they privately worked guys out instead of the group Combine setting. Seems like a fairly harsh punishment imo.
Wow  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2020 5:28 pm : link
NYI come all the way back. 2 min left.
Isles get a power play now...  
Metnut : 8/26/2020 5:30 pm : link
step on their throat! LETS GOOOOOOOO
tying goal looked offsides but will take it  
Eric on Li : 8/26/2020 5:45 pm : link
really nice effort to push to this one into OT. Philly actually did a decent job getting their own chances in the 3rd even though the scoring went against them, should be a good OT.
this is gonna be  
KDubbs : 8/26/2020 5:46 pm : link
heartbreaking for the loser.
RE: this is gonna be  
Anakim : 8/26/2020 5:54 pm : link
In comment 14956727 KDubbs said:
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heartbreaking for the loser.


Sorry dude
Tough loss...  
Metnut : 8/26/2020 5:56 pm : link
but I'm not too down. I'm not impressed with what I've seen of Philly. If Isles keep coming at them they'll win this series.

Need Varmalov to be better tomorrow night.
RE: Tough loss...  
Anakim : 8/26/2020 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14956734 Metnut said:
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but I'm not too down. I'm not impressed with what I've seen of Philly. If Isles keep coming at them they'll win this series.

Need Varmalov to be better tomorrow night.


Does Varlamov even get the nod? Greiss played well for you guys. 20 saves in limited action.
RE: RE: Tough loss...  
Metnut : 8/26/2020 6:00 pm : link
In comment 14956735 Anakim said:
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In comment 14956734 Metnut said:


Quote:


but I'm not too down. I'm not impressed with what I've seen of Philly. If Isles keep coming at them they'll win this series.

Need Varmalov to be better tomorrow night.



Does Varlamov even get the nod? Greiss played well for you guys. 20 saves in limited action.


I definitely think so. He only played one period today and has been lights out all playoffs. Greiss didn't exactly face a ton of tough looks.

If he has another awful game tomorrow night, the who knows for Game 4.

Finally seeing some big boy Series' this round  
MetsAreBack : 8/26/2020 6:17 pm : link
many of these look like they'll go the distance. I'd have more faith in Colorado too if Grubauer were healthy and they had some other healthy pieces too... they looked so awesome against Arizona.
The goaltending was always the isles potential Achilles heel...  
Torrag : 8/26/2020 6:33 pm : link
as the competitions ability escalates...

Late! Missed Everything!  
Percy : 8/26/2020 9:32 pm : link
Started on TV, but distant from my computer. TB looks fantastic. Bruins like gorillas. Both have merit, but TB seems very clearly to be the better team tonight.
What A Play!  
Percy : 8/26/2020 9:39 pm : link
Boston cannot skate or pass with TB. TB manged to frustrate a breakaway by Boston earlier, when I tuned in, but Boston no such luck. 5-1 is hard to come back from. Maybe impossible.
Boston needs to regroup  
MetsAreBack : 8/26/2020 9:42 pm : link
after game 1 I thought they were winning the Cup. But now? Losing Rask is starting to take its toll and credit Tampa, they are like this year's UVA a year after a humiliating postseason exit... seem to be gaining confidence.
Ruin for the Bruins  
Percy : 8/26/2020 9:46 pm : link
Watch the VP et all babble at the RNC instead? I don't think so. Yankees at Braves? Could be. This game just has to be so over.
RE: Ruin for the Bruins  
MetsAreBack : 8/26/2020 9:54 pm : link
In comment 14956821 Percy said:
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Watch the VP et all babble at the RNC instead? I don't think so. Yankees at Braves? Could be. This game just has to be so over.


Yanks lost both softball / little league games (6-7 innings) already... no worries they get a lot more of these "DHs" in the weekends and weeks ahead.
RE: RE: Ruin for the Bruins  
Percy : 8/26/2020 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14956827 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 14956821 Percy said:


Quote:


Watch the VP et all babble at the RNC instead? I don't think so. Yankees at Braves? Could be. This game just has to be so over.



Yanks lost both softball / little league games (6-7 innings) already... no worries they get a lot more of these "DHs" in the weekends and weeks ahead.

Thanks. Tragic outcome for what was supposed to be an all-time great team. It isn't.
Colorado needs a win here  
Route 9 : 8/26/2020 10:59 pm : link
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Anytime  
MetsAreBack : 8/26/2020 11:10 pm : link
Glad to help. Just need to make the top 8 - not even a bye for the top team which is pretty incredible. Nothing else really matters - no one cares or remembers a 60 game asterisk regular season. If they even get through it given covid and other issues
I was out  
pjcas18 : 8/27/2020 8:56 am : link
watching the game at a restaurant with outdoor seating. Nice to get out and it was a beautiful night and game (Bruins vs Lightning).

In a sea (or small crowd) of Bruins fans, seeing them look listless and ineffective vs a soft TBL team was awesome.

And The Makar and Mackinnon show in Edmonton was great. I love that series, so much skill and the Stars have grit too.

Two games today  
pjcas18 : 8/27/2020 8:59 am : link
NYI vs PHI at 07:00pm on NBCSN, series tied at 1
VAN vs LVG at 09:45pm on NBCSN, series tied at 1

if they play. I read the NHLPA is pressuring the teams to join other sports and not play. Not sure to what end, but bears watching.
RE: Two games today  
Metnut : 8/27/2020 1:57 pm : link
In comment 14956934 pjcas18 said:
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NYI vs PHI at 07:00pm on NBCSN, series tied at 1
VAN vs LVG at 09:45pm on NBCSN, series tied at 1

if they play. I read the NHLPA is pressuring the teams to join other sports and not play. Not sure to what end, but bears watching.


Sounds like they are leaning toward not playing tonight. Bigger things going on here obviously, but I'd much prefer the Isles play tonight as I had plans tomorrow night.
Sounds like  
pjcas18 : 8/27/2020 2:09 pm : link
Akim Aliyu wants to fold the league completely.

I am not someone who should be the voice on this issue, but why can't they do both? Why can't you shine the light and play hockey? Not sure why it needs to be one or the other.


Akim Aliu
@Dreamer_Aliu78
·
34m
We the @TheOfficialHDA
have formally requested the @NHL
to suspend all playoff games today. We strongly feel this sends a clear message that human rights take priority over sports.


Akim Aliu
@Dreamer_Aliu78
What’s more important, shining a light on social justice, police reform and inequalities of the black and brown community or playing hockey games that generate revenue for a billion dollar industry? This decision should be an easy one....come on now y’all! It’s time to wake up!!!
Sorry  
pjcas18 : 8/27/2020 2:10 pm : link
*Aliu
I read  
pjcas18 : 8/27/2020 2:57 pm : link
the NHL has suspended games for today and tomorrow.
RE: I read  
Metnut : 8/27/2020 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14957184 pjcas18 said:
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the NHL has suspended games for today and tomorrow.


So they’ll probably resume the normal schedule? Isles game 4 just becomes game 3 and they’ll tack on a game 7 (if necessary).
RE: RE: I read  
MetsAreBack : 8/27/2020 5:38 pm : link
In comment 14957197 Metnut said:
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In comment 14957184 pjcas18 said:


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the NHL has suspended games for today and tomorrow.



So they’ll probably resume the normal schedule? Isles game 4 just becomes game 3 and they’ll tack on a game 7 (if necessary).


I imagine all 4 series will go Saturday for a fun quadruple-header, no? After that, who knows. Don't love the back-to-backs in the playoffs but I do think these players want to get back to their families and operating a bubble is very expensive.
Isles/Flyers  
Metnut : 8/28/2020 10:13 am : link
Game 3 Saturday at 7 and Game 4 Sunday at 8. Big weekend coming up.
.  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2020 10:29 am : link
Quote:
𝗝𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗶 𝗣𝗶𝗲𝗿𝗰𝗲
@jessi_pierce
·
24m
The #NHL plans to resume play tomorrow (Saturday) with game times announced as follows:

• Game 4 #Bruins vs #tblightning at 11 a.m. CT
• Game 3 #NYI vs #Flyers at 6 p.m. CT
• Game 3 #Canucks vs #VGK at 8:45 p.m. CT
bizarre rescheduling  
MetsAreBack : 8/28/2020 10:30 am : link
they now don't have the Flyers/Islanders series potentially wrapping up until next Saturday? The Boston/TB series if it goes 7 wraps up on Thursday, so two full days earlier? Also big gap tomorrow between the noon game 4 TB/BOS and your game 3 at 7pm... why they didn't want to put a west game on at 3pm I have no idea, instead they have it starting close to 10pm when everyone in the East is asleep.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/28/2020 10:33 am : link
Why are they scheduling the West games so late on the weekend?
RE: ....  
Route 9 : 8/28/2020 10:52 am : link
In comment 14957577 BrettNYG10 said:
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Why are they scheduling the West games so late on the weekend?


Conspiracy
Why are the times listed as CT?  
ColHowPepper : 8/28/2020 11:44 am : link
I thought MAB had to be reading them incorrectly and looked again.

Toronto is on EDT, so why CT? To split the difference between Toronto and Edmonton?
they didnt put in CT on the NHLs website, they used EDT  
MetsAreBack : 8/28/2020 11:53 am : link
i'm guessing pj's link/reporter whatever is based in a central timezone
RE: Why are the times listed as CT?  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2020 11:59 am : link
In comment 14957631 ColHowPepper said:
Quote:
I thought MAB had to be reading them incorrectly and looked again.

Toronto is on EDT, so why CT? To split the difference between Toronto and Edmonton?


the twitter user who reported it probably lives in the central time zone.
And this is where a cause, profound in ideology  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2020 1:57 pm : link
or not, loses me. I don't care if the cause is important to me or not, once organizations make "demands" I am always on the defensive. It's not even that this list is outrageous, it's the demand. Although the "black line" would take some getting used to if that stuck around for than the temporary demand.

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On top of their formal request for the National Hockey League to suspend all playoff games last night, Rick Westhead, a senior correspondent for TSN, reports the HDA (Hockey Diversity Alliance) has a number of other demands.

Hockey Diversity Alliance, an association made up of seven players whose stated purpose is to eradicate systemic racism and intolerance in hockey, have also revealed these demands:

Team owners offer NHL rinks to be used as polling stations for the upcoming US election

NHL should be fully transparent about “all information related to the policies, targets and commitments” related to the hiring of employees who are visible minorities.

NHL to commit to funding $100 million dollars over 10 years to battle "systemic racism."

NHL make a statement by temporarily changing the blue line to black.

NHL to run PSAs for the HDA during the playoffs this summer.

NHL to have on-ice presence of the HDA logo.

HDA has also proposed “Black out” warm up jerseys to help build awareness of their organization and its agenda. Later to be auctioned off to raise money for their cause.
Not getting into politics  
Metnut : 8/28/2020 3:49 pm : link
so that we don't lose this thread, but I'm willing to say that the blue line should, in fact, remain blue.
RE: Not getting into politics  
BrettNYG10 : 8/28/2020 4:37 pm : link
In comment 14957716 Metnut said:
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so that we don't lose this thread, but I'm willing to say that the blue line should, in fact, remain blue.


Wouldn’t it make offsides harder to call if they turned it black?
Zero problem with any of those  
Davisian : 8/28/2020 4:39 pm : link
And to brettsky's point, it's not like offsides calls aren't already fubar.

I don't have a problem  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2020 4:52 pm : link
with the details, I have a problem with the method.

I find collaboration more likely to yield better results than demands.
I have a problem with the details and method  
Giants in 07 : 8/28/2020 5:05 pm : link
Changing the blue line would affect the game itself.
RE: I have a problem with the details and method  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2020 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14957756 Giants in 07 said:
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Changing the blue line would affect the game itself.


Yeah, the blue line is the only one I have a philosophical issue with it, plus I don't see it having any social justice impact at all (though that's true for me with all of these), changing the blue line to black could endanger players.

the suggestion was temporary, so if it's an exhibition game or something, still a bad idea, but I doubt it harms anything.
but the puck's already black  
Route 9 : 8/28/2020 5:52 pm : link
He's been fighting injustice for years.

In all seriousness, uhh, isn't this going to raise some issue with offsides calls because the line will be the same color as the puck?
No because it's onsides  
Davisian : 8/28/2020 7:51 pm : link
If the puck is blending in.

You'll still be able to see if skates are on sides
to me it's more of a safety  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2020 7:56 pm : link
issue, because players may not be able to tell who has the puck.

black puck, black blue line, unnecessary safety risk.

but whatever, I don't care strongly about it, just don't like being "demanded" to do it.

that's not social justice or influencing change, it's bullying by the diversity council (or whatever they're called) and caving by the league, accomplishing nothing but getting the activists off your back.
The blue/black line thing  
Davisian : 8/28/2020 8:09 pm : link
Is pretty much the only thing that is only symbolic and the rest actually effect change.

We're beyond symbolic gestures

(I guess the symbol on the ice is also symbolic, but nobody looks at logos when watching hockey.)

This is the only  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2020 8:22 pm : link
thing I think will be impactful, and it's questionable how much impact it will have.

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..NHL should be fully transparent about “all information related to the policies, targets and commitments” related to the hiring of employees who are visible minorities.


the rest IMO would be kowtowing to the mob.

And in reality based on everything I've read and experienced, the NHL to fix their own house, they need a grass roots effort, mostly aimed at weeding out the assholes at the lower levels (youth hockey through high school/juniors) that allow racism, bullying, etc to exist and fester, then it will fix things as kids and coaches move through the system.

I've encountered some serious assholes (racists, sexists, homophobes, bullies, etc.) in hockey from coaches to refs to parents to program owners and program officials - including USA hockey (though they are definitely the exception, not the rule, no denying they exist and are allowed to exist).

fix the game first, become a role model sport, IMO don't try to fix society (first) - it's biting off more than they can chew and they have some fixable issues of their own.
We're not far off from agreement  
Davisian : 8/28/2020 8:34 pm : link
But those programs from the youth up get better support when the best of the best are amplifying it.

The NHL does set a tone for how the sport is taught and received.
Insane  
Percy : 8/28/2020 11:53 pm : link
All of this -- especially in NHL hockey. I bow to no man or woman, unless in a foreign culture and not doing it there would be impolite. Nor do I expect any of my fellow Americans to do otherwise. I love hockey and its players. I honor its history and the Cup. It has nothing to do with this street mob junk we've talked ourselves into right now. It's NHL hockey. We should keep it. And pass it on to our children. Let them play and let me watch it. That cannot be too much to ask.
Well, now everything is set right.  
Route 9 : 8/29/2020 6:50 am : link
Tampa Bay vs Boston kicks it off (again) at noon!
RE: Well, now everything is set right.  
Percy : 8/29/2020 9:37 am : link
In comment 14958073 Route 9 said:
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Tampa Bay vs Boston kicks it off (again) at noon!

Ready! Question: is noon (local time) the earliest ever for an NHL game?
RE: RE: Well, now everything is set right.  
JayBinQueens : 8/29/2020 10:14 am : link
In comment 14958109 Percy said:
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In comment 14958073 Route 9 said:


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Tampa Bay vs Boston kicks it off (again) at noon!


Ready! Question: is noon (local time) the earliest ever for an NHL game?


In the last round, Carolina played Boston at 11am. They were supposed to play at 8 the night before but the Columbus Tampa game went 5 OT so they had to be bumped.
RE: RE: RE: Well, now everything is set right.  
Percy : 8/29/2020 11:19 am : link
In comment 14958121 JayBinQueens said:
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Tampa Bay vs Boston kicks it off (again) at noon!


Ready! Question: is noon (local time) the earliest ever for an NHL game?



In the last round, Carolina played Boston at 11am. They were supposed to play at 8 the night before but the Columbus Tampa game went 5 OT so they had to be bumped.

Remarkable. Sort of hockey for brunch. How about for breakfast?
Halak  
Percy : 8/29/2020 12:36 pm : link
Don't know how he kept that one out of the net. Great play. Boston doing well in the TB zone so far.
Palat  
Percy : 8/29/2020 12:40 pm : link
Gets it in. One zip TB.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Well, now everything is set right.  
JayBinQueens : 8/29/2020 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14958158 Percy said:
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In comment 14958109 Percy said:


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Tampa Bay vs Boston kicks it off (again) at noon!


Ready! Question: is noon (local time) the earliest ever for an NHL game?



In the last round, Carolina played Boston at 11am. They were supposed to play at 8 the night before but the Columbus Tampa game went 5 OT so they had to be bumped.


Remarkable. Sort of hockey for brunch. How about for breakfast?

Lol imagine living on the west coast. I'm sure fans in Europe love it
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Well, now everything is set right.  
Percy : 8/29/2020 12:57 pm : link
In comment 14958236 JayBinQueens said:
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Remarkable. Sort of hockey for brunch. How about for breakfast?


Lol imagine living on the west coast. I'm sure fans in Europe love it


Tea,crumpets, and NHL hockey. What could be wrong with that?
Cernak Penalty  
Percy : 8/29/2020 1:03 pm : link
Didn't see what provoked his attack after the horn exactly. Announcers did, but not me. Wha' happen'?
Palat Again!  
Percy : 8/29/2020 1:44 pm : link
Halak beaten.
Tampa Bay up  
Route 9 : 8/29/2020 1:44 pm : link
2-0. What a shit goal to allow.
.......  
BrettNYG10 : 8/29/2020 1:48 pm : link
I hate the Bruins. I hope he’s suspended for that.
Time for Tampa Bay to give them the dagger  
Route 9 : 8/29/2020 1:51 pm : link
....
Late Boarding  
Percy : 8/29/2020 1:51 pm : link
Knocking out Gourde (head bang), missed by refs, but, on obvious review while tending to Gourde, five minute major called. Boston has every reason to feel frustrated in this game and has carried much of the play, but nothing scored. Now ... . Well, they're screwed. Who knows how many will be scored against them during this?
Lol.  
Route 9 : 8/29/2020 1:56 pm : link
What on earth was that?
3-0, Tampa Bay.  
Route 9 : 8/29/2020 1:56 pm : link
...
Hedmon  
Percy : 8/29/2020 1:58 pm : link
Makes it 3-0. Bruins have done well with a lackadaisical TB use of its major penalty time. (Well, one off the iron before the shot that went in at last.) Now a TB penalty.
Vasilevskiy  
Percy : 8/29/2020 2:02 pm : link
Had to do some work in the second to keep the Bruins off the board and did.
Boston's Richie  
Percy : 8/29/2020 2:09 pm : link
Out-of-control character, unnecessarily, dirty and dangerous in his hit on Gourde. Doubt we'll see any more of him today (if at all ever).
RE: Boston's Richie  
Percy : 8/29/2020 2:30 pm : link
In comment 14958288 Percy said:
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Out-of-control character, unnecessarily, dirty and dangerous in his hit on Gourde. Doubt we'll see any more of him today (if at all ever).

I was wrong.
Boston on the board, 3-1.  
Route 9 : 8/29/2020 2:32 pm : link
Jake Debrusk.
RE: Boston on the board, 3-1.  
Percy : 8/29/2020 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14958311 Route 9 said:
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Jake Debrusk.

Finally!
Done  
Percy : 8/29/2020 2:56 pm : link
Boston cooked. Over.
I won't count Boston  
pjcas18 : 8/29/2020 3:02 pm : link
out until they're dead, they're a little like Jason from Friday the 13th, but definitely an uphill climb for them.
RE: I won't count Boston  
Route 9 : 8/29/2020 3:04 pm : link
In comment 14958345 pjcas18 said:
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out until they're dead, they're a little like Jason from Friday the 13th, but definitely an uphill climb for them.


I don't know, Archie. Tampa Bay looks good.

Then they'll get swept in the ECF by the Flyers/Islanders winner.
the Lightnings speed and skill are impressive...  
Torrag : 8/29/2020 3:06 pm : link
so far Boston hasn't been able to consistently get them into a slower grinding game. This may be a case where months off to refresh has made a major impact on a playoff series.
RE: I won't count Boston  
Percy : 8/29/2020 7:36 pm : link
In comment 14958345 pjcas18 said:
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out until they're dead, they're a little like Jason from Friday the 13th, but definitely an uphill climb for them.


Three in a row versus TB? Now? Not going to happen.
Isn't Tampa the team that was a juggernaut last season  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/29/2020 7:52 pm : link
Only to get swept in the first round by, I believe, Columbus? It'd be pretty wild if they somehow won it all this season...very UVA like. Lose as #1 to UMBC, win it all the following year.
Late second period goal by  
Route 9 : 8/29/2020 8:41 pm : link
The Islanders. Leo Komarov.
good bounce back  
KDubbs : 8/29/2020 9:43 pm : link
now lets break the flyers streak of not losing 2 in a row since Jan
Looks as if  
Route 9 : 8/30/2020 8:41 am : link
Let's see if Boston and Philly can get trashed in the same round. This would be marvelous, wouldn't it?
That was supposed to read:  
Route 9 : 8/30/2020 8:47 am : link
Looks as if "my" Flyers are in trouble. So sad.
RE: Looks as if  
Mike in NY : 8/30/2020 8:49 am : link
In comment 14958581 Route 9 said:
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Let's see if Boston and Philly can get trashed in the same round. This would be marvelous, wouldn't it?


If not for goaltending with Rask out, Boston is probably the strongest club in the East so I would love them to lose. They are the only other East time like the Islanders that can roll all 4 lines against you and physically dominate. The difference is, unlike the Islanders, the Bruins have high end scoring so you don’t have to worry that allowing 3 goals is automatic loss as sometimes pucks bounce strangely.
Yeah.  
Route 9 : 8/30/2020 8:55 am : link
Those were some strange goals against Boston last night.
esp the third, it was hard to pick up  
ColHowPepper : 8/30/2020 9:10 am : link
the body deflection, on multiple re-plays.

The penalty on Anders Lee could have been a late turning point, but Isles hung on. Seeing 6 on 4 was kind of wild. Aside from getting pulled game before, I thought Varlamov was consistently shaky in his decisions with the puck when he was behind his own net, tentative and often wrong.

Don't know if anyone else feels this way--and it hasn't shown up that much on the score sheet--but I think Kevin Hayes has been playing really strong two-way hockey, positionally sound and active in playmaking and checking. He stands out to me among the Flyers. But they've clearly lost a lot of their mojo.

TB in a strong position, but I'll believe they're home free vs the Bruins when it happens. They have kept the games somewhat open (don't recall who said it above), I'm still a bit skeptical.
3 games  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 10:07 am : link
today, all prime time, two are back to backs.

COL vs DAL at 06:00pm on NBCSN, DAL leads 2 - 1
PHI vs NYI at 08:00pm on NBC, NYI leads 2 - 1
VAN vs LVG at 10:30pm on NBCSN, LVG leads 2 - 1

the 10:30 games are kicking my ass, it's worse than MNF.

for that reason I hope the finals are in TOR and involve DAL (who I think is the easternmost team left from the west)
RE: 3 games  
JayBinQueens : 8/30/2020 6:07 pm : link
In comment 14958612 pjcas18 said:
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today, all prime time, two are back to backs.

COL vs DAL at 06:00pm on NBCSN, DAL leads 2 - 1
PHI vs NYI at 08:00pm on NBC, NYI leads 2 - 1
VAN vs LVG at 10:30pm on NBCSN, LVG leads 2 - 1

the 10:30 games are kicking my ass, it's worse than MNF.

for that reason I hope the finals are in TOR and involve DAL (who I think is the easternmost team left from the west)

They mentioned last night during the Isles game that after this round, all teams head to Edmonton for the conference finals and stanley cup.

I hope they don't mess the ending up and have all the games at like 9/10pm
Greiss  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 8:22 pm : link
and Elliott in net for NYI and PHI about a min in to the 1st.

DAL and COL in a good game in the 3rd (5 - 3 DAL lead).
Lol. Interesting game between Dallas/Colorado.  
Route 9 : 8/30/2020 8:22 pm : link
....
Dangerous  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 8:35 pm : link
hit by Clutterbuck on Sanheim.

I'm not sad about it, but looked avoidable by Clutterback and kind almost knee on knee where he could have injured himself.
Stars  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 8:43 pm : link
win a wild one, take a commanding lead on COL, 3 - 1.

Losing Grubauer (who isn't great IMO in his own right) hurts more when your backup is Francouz

Highlights the need for a quality backup, it's not like football where your backup QB ideally never plays, backup goalies are critical.
Ouch  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 9:11 pm : link
that giveaway by Makar was ugly - to lead to the Stars 5th goal (I switched to NYI vs PHI) and it hurts more too b/c the Avs cut the lead to 5 - 4 with a couple seconds left.
updated odds from moneypuck  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 9:21 pm : link
Brock Nelson  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 9:28 pm : link
breaks the ice, bad clearing attempt by PHI and Bailey (?) finds Nelson alone deep slot, Nelson beats Elliott (who has been good) top shelf.

nice shot.
RE: Ouch  
Route 9 : 8/30/2020 9:32 pm : link
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that giveaway by Makar was ugly - to lead to the Stars 5th goal (I switched to NYI vs PHI) and it hurts more too b/c the Avs cut the lead to 5 - 4 with a couple seconds left.


I saw that. Was he high?
......  
Route 9 : 8/30/2020 9:37 pm : link
The time for action was a long time ago, Flyers.
RE: RE: Ouch  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 9:40 pm : link
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that giveaway by Makar was ugly - to lead to the Stars 5th goal (I switched to NYI vs PHI) and it hurts more too b/c the Avs cut the lead to 5 - 4 with a couple seconds left.



I saw that. Was he high?


no clue what he ws thinking - almost looked like wanted to pass it to his goalie.
Flyers  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 9:41 pm : link
tied it up with under 5 left in the second, good forcheck, and good coordination by voracek.
Flyers tie  
Route 9 : 8/30/2020 9:42 pm : link
Couturier with the redirect
RE: Flyers tie  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 9:45 pm : link
In comment 14958992 Route 9 said:
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Couturier with the redirect


thank you, thought it was voracek - all those flyers players who look like the mascot blend together for me.
......  
Route 9 : 8/30/2020 9:45 pm : link
Maybe another OT game.
RE: ......  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 9:47 pm : link
In comment 14958996 Route 9 said:
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Maybe another OT game.


hope so, still 2nd period though
isles  
KDubbs : 8/30/2020 9:53 pm : link
look really slow tonight.
DK why they couldn't start the  
JayBinQueens : 8/30/2020 9:54 pm : link
Col Dal game at 3pm, this one at 5pm or 6pm.

So dumb to have all these late games on a Sunday
RE: isles  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 9:54 pm : link
In comment 14958999 KDubbs said:
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look really slow tonight.


uncharacteristic period for them - rarely have I seen them these playoffs get dominated in zone time and chances for long stretches.

Greiss playing well keeps it tied.
JGP  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 10:20 pm : link
speed beats Niskanen and gets a nice stretch pass, beats Elliott 5-hole, NYI up 2 - 1 under 12 left.
RE: RE: isles  
MetsAreBack : 8/30/2020 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14959001 pjcas18 said:
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look really slow tonight.



uncharacteristic period for them - rarely have I seen them these playoffs get dominated in zone time and chances for long stretches.

Greiss playing well keeps it tied.


This series is like my kid playing xbox with the goalie stopping initial shots and then it trickles in. It’s happened 3 times now in two days. Flyers are not in good shape now. - Giroux makes Rick Nash look like Reggie Jackson this time of year. Completely invisible.
And I’m not a flyers fan by any means  
MetsAreBack : 8/30/2020 10:26 pm : link
But it’s starting to look like not a single series this round is going 7 either. 2020 sucks!
What a 2  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 10:31 pm : link
on 1, Nelson again, great feed from Beauvilier on the backhand.
RE: What a 2  
MetsAreBack : 8/30/2020 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14959010 pjcas18 said:
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on 1, Nelson again, great feed from Beauvilier on the backhand.


Greiss made some incredible saves that changed the course of the game too. Capitals have to feel great they let Trotz go in Ovechkins last few years. Smart.
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pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 10:36 pm : link
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on 1, Nelson again, great feed from Beauvilier on the backhand.



Greiss made some incredible saves that changed the course of the game too. Capitals have to feel great they let Trotz go in Ovechkins last few years. Smart.


Yep, funny how it happens like that often. crazy save at one end (Greiss on Koneckny) that would have tied it, but no goal the other way.

game changing play.
RE: What a 2  
JayBinQueens : 8/30/2020 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14959010 pjcas18 said:
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on 1, Nelson again, great feed from Beauvilier on the backhand.


Beau had a nice back kick pass to Nelson on the break. Bailey had the great pass back for the goal
Giroux  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 10:40 pm : link
Konecny, Voracek, couturier, and Hayes have been invisible. relatively,

People talk about how great a series Hayes has had, and people probably know I don't like him, but he's playing his usual game.

solid at times - two way game - missing breakways, empty nets, and over-passing.

Hayes leads the Flyers with 9 points, but for reference - I think that's the lowest leader of any team in the 2nd round. By a lot.
RE: RE: What a 2  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 10:42 pm : link
In comment 14959014 JayBinQueens said:
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on 1, Nelson again, great feed from Beauvilier on the backhand.



Beau had a nice back kick pass to Nelson on the break. Bailey had the great pass back for the goal


thanks, I have the sound muted. That was a great 2 on 1.

Flyers, cut the lead to 1 with just over a min left.
H  
Route 9 : 8/30/2020 10:43 pm : link
Flyers with late goal
Oh so sad  
Route 9 : 8/30/2020 10:46 pm : link
....
NYI  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 10:46 pm : link
hang on, they lead 3 - 1.
Isles baby!  
adamg : 8/30/2020 10:47 pm : link
LFG
.  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 10:52 pm : link
David Amber
@DavidAmber
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The #NYI are now 10-0 in the playoffs when allowing 2 goals against or fewer. They have shut down the Panthers, Capitals and now the Flyers. It's really impressive what they are doing right now
B line  
KDubbs : 8/30/2020 10:53 pm : link
finally gets it going in this series! huge win
RE: Giroux  
MetsAreBack : 8/30/2020 11:00 pm : link
In comment 14959015 pjcas18 said:
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Konecny, Voracek, couturier, and Hayes have been invisible. relatively,

People talk about how great a series Hayes has had, and people probably know I don't like him, but he's playing his usual game.

solid at times - two way game - missing breakways, empty nets, and over-passing.

Hayes leads the Flyers with 9 points, but for reference - I think that's the lowest leader of any team in the 2nd round. By a lot.


All good but Giroux has I think 1 goal in 26 games now. No point in paying that guy 8.25 mil a year. Hayes has at least shown something this year and with the rangers in the past this time of year. I enjoy seeing flyers suffer so all good but Giroux in particular should be playing for his career or at least next paycheck during a pandemic when future contacts are uncertain on tuesday. He’s completely invisible.
The only time I noticed  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 11:11 pm : link
Giroux in the Habs series was on the dots. he was money.

but otherwise agree.

Elias Pettersson is so good, wires one on the PP to tie it off the feed from JT Miller.

1 - 1 LVG and VAN 7 left in the 1st.
LVG  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2020 11:16 pm : link
answers, back in the lead 2 - 1.

As much as I like Quinn Hughes - that play showed the "price" you have to accept if you have a guy like Hughes on your blue line.
Fell asleep  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 8:32 am : link
before LVG vs VAN ended, but LVG takes a commanding lead over VAN 3 - 1.

today's game:
BOS vs TBL at 07:00pm on NBCSN, TBL leads 3 - 1
DAL vs COL at 09:45pm on NBCSN, DAL leads 3 - 1
John Scott  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 10:52 am : link
dropping the hammer on the Bruins and what he says is full of truth - and I think it's true of the Flyers too.

Funny thing is what he describes is how MTL played - just short on talent.
link - ( New Window )
Greiss played one of if not his best game as an Islander yesterday  
Eric on Li : 8/31/2020 11:13 am : link
despite his solid numbers i've never been a big fan because he's usually scrambling all over the place and creating his own problems with poor rebound control, but yesterday he was in great position and made some amazing 2nd saves. I think they almost definitely go back to Varly but he played so well it's at least discussable.

It's honestly the greatest feeling in the world to be a fan of a team with a great coach. I feel like I'm watching a team get the most out of their ability and play to the best of their potential and then after the game yesterday Trotz said it was their worst in the bubble. He is generally far from hyperbolic and typically honest in his assessments of the team so he take him at his word because they did get dominated and bailed out by Greiss a lot of the game, but still impressive discipline to stay grounded like that when the team is 1 win away from their best playoff run in almost 4 decades.
Seems like  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 11:18 am : link
whichever goalie is in net for the NYI plays well.

Greiss was very good, especially in the 2nd (?) period when PHI was controlling the play.

But Varlamov has been good too.

I'd stick with him.

I think the B's will bring their best game tonight...  
BillKo : 8/31/2020 3:53 pm : link
....but not having Rask is a huge disadvantage.

You figure in the 4-3 OT loss and 3-1 loss Saturday, Rask could have been a difference maker.

While Halek has done well some games, he's let in some softies............but being a veteran I think he'll up his game too.

Having said that, I think the layoff has helped the Bolts and they right now are clearly the better team.

Bruins have never come back down in a series 3-1 in their extensive playoff history.
......  
Route 9 : 8/31/2020 4:23 pm : link
I thought that the Flyers were a shoo-in for the Stanley Cup. Nope. Love that they're getting beat up. Way to go Islanders!
Late  
Percy : 8/31/2020 7:29 pm : link
But just caught the Vasilevskiy save on Boston breakaway and announcer said same thing had happened by Harak at the other end. Still 0-0 in first.
Ohhh, shit.  
Route 9 : 8/31/2020 7:32 pm : link
Kucherov wobbly.
Chara looked bothered, too.  
Route 9 : 8/31/2020 7:33 pm : link
....
4 min PP for Tampa Bay  
Route 9 : 8/31/2020 7:35 pm : link
...
Holy shit that hit was brutal by Chara.  
Route 9 : 8/31/2020 7:36 pm : link
Didn't look intentional. Some teeth missing, perhaps?
RE: Holy shit that hit was brutal by Chara.  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 7:43 pm : link
In comment 14959749 Route 9 said:
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Didn't look intentional. Some teeth missing, perhaps?


and then he tried to fake an injury after.
Lol  
Route 9 : 8/31/2020 7:53 pm : link
...
RE: Lol  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 8:08 pm : link
In comment 14959773 Route 9 said:
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and I don't even blame Chara, the high stick was incidental (like most of them), but I've been there. You realize you hurt someone, on an incidental play like that, and you think maybe if I'm hurt too the ref won't call it. It never works and you feel dirty getting up and skating to the box.
......  
Route 9 : 8/31/2020 8:09 pm : link
What positions did you play?
RE: ......  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 8:11 pm : link
In comment 14959789 Route 9 said:
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What positions did you play?


I played forward until junior year in high school then I was moved to D.
Shattenkirk  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 8:14 pm : link
with the shot, looked tipped out deep, Palat or a Bruins leg, couldn't tell.

after tip it goes top shelf. No chance for Halak.

TBL up 1 - 0
Pilot!  
Percy : 8/31/2020 8:15 pm : link
1-0 TB!
(Whoops!)  
Percy : 8/31/2020 8:16 pm : link
Palat
This is game 5  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 8:22 pm : link


David Amber
@DavidAmber
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Where is the Bruins offense? Boston hasn't scored an even strength goal since 3rd period of Game 2.
Pasta  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 8:32 pm : link
on the PP, no idea how Pastrnak gets that open.
Tying Shot  
Percy : 8/31/2020 8:34 pm : link
Even Vasilevsky couldn't get to that one.
3rd  
Percy : 8/31/2020 9:07 pm : link
Ought to be great!
McAvoy  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 9:30 pm : link
still out after rough hit from Paquette.

Hutchinson starting in net for COL, I would have made this switch in game 2 or whenever Grubauer went out.
another  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 9:31 pm : link
waist high tip (this by Cirelli) over Halak's shoulder.

TBL up 2 - 1.
Good Night  
Percy : 8/31/2020 9:32 pm : link
Boston? Could be.
these guys  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 9:32 pm : link
with these tips are incredible - not just this game, but all over hockey.

I don't remember players being this good at tipping pucks until the past couple years.
It Is  
Percy : 8/31/2020 9:38 pm : link
Incredible. Agree. And do not remember so much of it from yesteryear.
Bruins  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 9:41 pm : link
show some heart, get some luck and a bouncing puck lands on Krejci's stick.

tie game 2 min + left in the game.
Wow!  
Percy : 8/31/2020 9:42 pm : link
Creche (sp?|)! Tie with 2 minutes+ to go.
Bruins  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 9:43 pm : link
will have a PP the rest of the way, unless they score first.
Now Boston PP?  
Percy : 8/31/2020 9:43 pm : link
Who wrote this script?
Over  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 9:45 pm : link
time
Bruins  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 10:08 pm : link
have all the momentum in OT so far. No zone time for TBL.
TBL  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 10:16 pm : link
to the PP
Bad Penalty  
Percy : 8/31/2020 10:17 pm : link
To take -- not to call it would have been absurd.
WTF  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 10:18 pm : link
is going on in Edmonton?

COL up 5 - 0 with 5 left in the first.

Double  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 10:32 pm : link
OT with BOS vs TBL
bye bye  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2020 11:08 pm : link
Bruins.
Tremendous Victory for TB!  
Percy : 8/31/2020 11:10 pm : link
Boston certainly came on, but now a rest for them until next season. TB may well go all the way.
Av's  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2020 8:10 am : link
hold on, beat the Stars 6 - 3.

Cut the Stars series lead to 3 - 2.

Two potential close out games tonight:

NYI vs PHI at 07:00pm on NBCSN, NYI up 3 - 1
VAN vs LVG at 09:45pm on NBCSN, LVG up 3 - 1
Questions and comments (went to sleep after the 1st OT)  
ColHowPepper : 9/1/2020 8:12 am : link
Did Kucherov return at all? Any word beyond 'not fit to play'?

The deflections have been amazing: TB getting any piece of the stick on the puck, blade or shaft, and it found its loopy, floppy way over Halak's shoulder.

On the sequences leading to Bruins' tying goal in the 3rd, culminating with Sergechev's abysmal attempt to clear, there were at least two and probably three instances when TB cleared from their own end/own side of center ice and there was a legit foot race between a Bruins' defender and TB forward, at least twice when I saw TB equal or better odds to make first touch.

I get that officials are instructed to call icing proactively to avoid serious injury with end board hits trying to reach the puck first, but to call the icings when they did in a one-goal, elimination game, Period 3--in each case giving the Bruins a face-off in the TB end, I thought officials should have let the foot race go. Anyone else see it that way? No mention from Doc.

McAvoy probably concussed and fought his way back on ice? He was a big factor in 2019 SCP, burst on the scene, 'nother MA boy I think.
they blow  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2020 8:25 am : link
no-touch icing dead at the face off dots, and definitely give "ties" to the defender, but I like it generally.

No Kucherov, and no explanation. Makes TBL win more impressive. No Stamkos, no Kucherov, no problem. only Rask missing for BOS.

I thought McAvoy was probably out getting checked out (if they have concussion spotters in the bubble), and returned. I definitely thought he'd be feeling that for a while.
And McAvoy  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2020 8:29 am : link
is actually a Long Island native (though he attended BU - so maybe that's what you remember) - I thought a Islanders or Rangers fan growing up. I know he's a NY Giants fan.

My daughter is #73 because of McAvoy, we met him (and many other Bruins) at a fundraiser and he commented on my Giants shirt and signed my daughters McAvoy jersey. I told him not to change numbers. lol. Seems like a good guy and a hell of a hockey player.



So, PJ, what you looking to get for Domi  
Davisian : 9/1/2020 12:39 pm : link
Assets to choose from include, but are not limited to; Strome/TDA/Buchnevich/Lias/a first rounder in the early 20's.

RE: So, PJ, what you looking to get for Domi  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2020 12:49 pm : link
In comment 14960138 Davisian said:
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Assets to choose from include, but are not limited to; Strome/TDA/Buchnevich/Lias/a first rounder in the early 20's.



I'm terrible at predicting trades, but Domi would be a great fit in NY. Top 6 F, can play C or W (better at W) and can play all specials units. even with his small size can scrap/play physical. Also sometimes prone to a dumb penalty.

If he gets moved (as speculated) I think blue line help would be the habs goal (TDA maybe - RFA for RFA plus a pick from the Rangers I think). But like I said - not my forte.

I do like Max though, and would like to keep him, but they're talking about Domi or Danault being traded. Danault is an underrated defense-first center.

Since I am a Bruins fan....  
BillKo : 9/1/2020 1:40 pm : link
...who are Top 6 forwards avaiable?

Also, I think Chara and Krug will move on and the B's could probably use another defenseman.......although they do have some guys that could step in.

And then there's the question of Rask and whether 2021 would be his last..............
RE: Since I am a Bruins fan....  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2020 1:53 pm : link
In comment 14960156 BillKo said:
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...who are Top 6 forwards avaiable?

Also, I think Chara and Krug will move on and the B's could probably use another defenseman.......although they do have some guys that could step in.

And then there's the question of Rask and whether 2021 would be his last..............


I've read Rask is a goner. I've read Holtby/Halak as a possible tandem.

Chara is likely done IMO and I agree Krug will get more to go elsewhere, so is likely gone too.

Taylor Hall is available, and he's the top UFA by far.

Other forwards (UFA only): Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Tyler Toffoli, Dadonov, Mike Hoffman, Wayne Simmonds, Alex Galchenyuk, Ryan Callahan, Mikael Granlund, Namestnikov, Sheary, Janmark
RE: And McAvoy  
ColHowPepper : 9/1/2020 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14960009 pjcas18 said:
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My daughter is #73 because of McAvoy, we met him (and many other Bruins) at a fundraiser and he commented on my Giants shirt and signed my daughters McAvoy jersey. I told him not to change numbers. lol. Seems like a good guy and a hell of a hockey player.
Is that your daughter in the foreground of that pic? Neat closeup.

Not so familiar with Domi but McAvoy is exactly the type of player NYR need, glue, can create, and is responsible on d. If Domi is an analogue, I'd be for it.
RE: RE: Since I am a Bruins fan....  
Anakim : 9/1/2020 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14960166 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14960156 BillKo said:


Quote:


...who are Top 6 forwards avaiable?

Also, I think Chara and Krug will move on and the B's could probably use another defenseman.......although they do have some guys that could step in.

And then there's the question of Rask and whether 2021 would be his last..............



I've read Rask is a goner. I've read Holtby/Halak as a possible tandem.

Chara is likely done IMO and I agree Krug will get more to go elsewhere, so is likely gone too.

Taylor Hall is available, and he's the top UFA by far.

Other forwards (UFA only): Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Tyler Toffoli, Dadonov, Mike Hoffman, Wayne Simmonds, Alex Galchenyuk, Ryan Callahan, Mikael Granlund, Namestnikov, Sheary, Janmark


Ryan Callahan?
RE: RE: And McAvoy  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2020 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14960210 ColHowPepper said:
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In comment 14960009 pjcas18 said:


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My daughter is #73 because of McAvoy, we met him (and many other Bruins) at a fundraiser and he commented on my Giants shirt and signed my daughters McAvoy jersey. I told him not to change numbers. lol. Seems like a good guy and a hell of a hockey player.

Is that your daughter in the foreground of that pic? Neat closeup.

Not so familiar with Domi but McAvoy is exactly the type of player NYR need, glue, can create, and is responsible on d. If Domi is an analogue, I'd be for it.


All you can see is my daughter's hair - she is holding the McAvoy jersey.

Yeah, I'd love McAvoy on the Habs too - such a great young player, solid two-way D and I think the Habs may have something close with Romanov.

Here is my daughter with Matt Grzelcyk - he signed a puck in her hand (hard to see). She got to meet Krug, Pastrnak, and more Bruins, plus guys like Gronkowski and Edelman, and a few more Boston sports celebrities. All very accommodating and friendly - to everyone, but I didn't see any adults trying to get autographs - and my daughter had never gotten any autographs before this event (and I'm not an autograph guy). so it was a thrill for her just to meet the players.

RE: RE: RE: Since I am a Bruins fan....  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2020 4:14 pm : link
In comment 14960219 Anakim said:
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In comment 14960166 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


In comment 14960156 BillKo said:


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...who are Top 6 forwards avaiable?

Also, I think Chara and Krug will move on and the B's could probably use another defenseman.......although they do have some guys that could step in.

And then there's the question of Rask and whether 2021 would be his last..............



I've read Rask is a goner. I've read Holtby/Halak as a possible tandem.

Chara is likely done IMO and I agree Krug will get more to go elsewhere, so is likely gone too.

Taylor Hall is available, and he's the top UFA by far.

Other forwards (UFA only): Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Tyler Toffoli, Dadonov, Mike Hoffman, Wayne Simmonds, Alex Galchenyuk, Ryan Callahan, Mikael Granlund, Namestnikov, Sheary, Janmark



Ryan Callahan?


technically a UFA, yes. though I think he'll retire, he had to stay on a roster to get paid.
from what I have been reading on some hockey blogs...  
BillKo : 9/1/2020 4:26 pm : link
...Tampa had better win it this year. They either have massive free agency or issues with the cap. So this has to be the year.


PJ - interesting about Rask. Holtby huh? Well I guess if you can't beat him, join him! Is the Rask rumors about him just ready to retire, or the Bruins upset w/ him. Seem the B's supported him (esp with it being something with is daughter).

Pretty cools pics of your daughter with the players. Charlie Mac is fast becoming my fav player. He got some skills and likes to bang........but I am wondering why many Bruins fans think he can't be the QB on the PP (to replace Krug).

He nearly won the game in the first OT i think with a dazzling move thru the middle with a backhand.....
I don't blame Rask  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2020 4:31 pm : link
for leaving the bubble and I don't think his teammates do either, but man Boston fans are ruthless and their media is too.

I don't know the whole story, but what I've read from beat writers/bloggers is this isn't the first time Tuukka "let the team down" - whatever that even means.

McAvoy can absolutely be a PP QB. But I think Grzelcyk may be better. I would not keep Krug just because of his power play skills. I think you'll probably see McAvoy on the power play next year. With a player like him though, who logs so many minutes my approach would be to find ways to rest him, so keeping him off PP (at least off unit 1) would be my goal. Especially if he's on PK1.
RE: I don't blame Rask  
BillKo : 9/1/2020 4:46 pm : link
In comment 14960231 pjcas18 said:
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for leaving the bubble and I don't think his teammates do either, but man Boston fans are ruthless and their media is too.

I don't know the whole story, but what I've read from beat writers/bloggers is this isn't the first time Tuukka "let the team down" - whatever that even means.

McAvoy can absolutely be a PP QB. But I think Grzelcyk may be better. I would not keep Krug just because of his power play skills. I think you'll probably see McAvoy on the power play next year. With a player like him though, who logs so many minutes my approach would be to find ways to rest him, so keeping him off PP (at least off unit 1) would be my goal. Especially if he's on PK1.


Well Rask has lost two Stanely Cups as a starting goalie. And he was the tender when they blew a 3-0 lead to Philly.

But the one I'll remember is they were playing Ottawa (bad team) last game of season, and needed to win and have the Rangers lose to Detroit (bad team too). Rangers lost, but Bruins lost brutally to Ottawa and Rask didn't play because he was "sick". Missed the playoffs.

Rask carried the team last year, but I felt in Game 7 he didn't stand tall like he had the throughout. Not his fault entirely, but being a goaltender is like being a QB.
That Marchand  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2020 4:54 pm : link
change in game 7 on a 2 on 1 still baffles me.

My Bruins fans friends bring it up all the time, still no clue what he was thinking, game changing play right there. In a game 7.

Hard to blame anyone really, STL played well, but plays like that from Marchand really hurt.
RE: That Marchand  
BillKo : 9/1/2020 5:04 pm : link
In comment 14960238 pjcas18 said:
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change in game 7 on a 2 on 1 still baffles me.

My Bruins fans friends bring it up all the time, still no clue what he was thinking, game changing play right there. In a game 7.

Hard to blame anyone really, STL played well, but plays like that from Marchand really hurt.


STL was obvious a team of destiny with the goaltender and all, and they played well. You don't get there by not playing well.

Rask was having a playoff where the bad change happens...and he still comes up big. But didn't.........

Bruins lost 3 of 4 at home, so really on excuses. And the first game they trailed 2-0 in the second period.
Flyers and Islanders are knotted at 1  
Route 9 : 9/1/2020 8:39 pm : link
....
Saucer pass...  
trueblueinpw : 9/1/2020 8:40 pm : link
Fleers show a little heart. For a change.
Varlomov looks like shit.  
BlueHurricane : 9/1/2020 8:41 pm : link
He better settle down
Come on Islanders, you fucking tools.  
Route 9 : 9/1/2020 8:43 pm : link
....
Well we know  
Route 9 : 9/1/2020 9:21 pm : link
Alain Vigneault likes to get his team going when they're in a 3-1 series shortfall.
Uh oh. Islanders score.  
Route 9 : 9/1/2020 9:32 pm : link
3-2, Flyers.
LETS GOOOOO  
Metnut : 9/1/2020 9:35 pm : link
Back in it!
Oh shit.  
Route 9 : 9/1/2020 9:35 pm : link
....
Fuckin Isles are so gritty  
BlueHurricane : 9/1/2020 9:36 pm : link
.
RE: Fuckin Isles are so gritty  
rnargi : 9/1/2020 9:37 pm : link
In comment 14960354 BlueHurricane said:
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Fun team to watch. Happy for the Isles fans
Priority number one  
Route 9 : 9/1/2020 9:39 pm : link
is always the elimination of a Philly team
RE: Well we know  
Anakim : 9/1/2020 9:41 pm : link
In comment 14960347 Route 9 said:
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Alain Vigneault likes to get his team going when they're in a 3-1 series shortfall.


AV losing a lead late in the game? YOU DON'T SAY
No quit in  
Pete in MD : 9/1/2020 9:45 pm : link
this team. LGFI!
Flyers win. Going to 6.  
Route 9 : 9/1/2020 10:16 pm : link
....
I see some Islanders fans on Twitter are melting down after that  
Anakim : 9/1/2020 10:22 pm : link
'stern' warning to Hart instead of it being a Delay of Game penalty
RE: I see some Islanders fans on Twitter are melting down after that  
Metnut : 9/1/2020 10:43 pm : link
In comment 14960393 Anakim said:
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'stern' warning to Hart instead of it being a Delay of Game penalty


It was right after they called a really light penalty on Martin in OT a few minutes earlier. Either call it by the book for both sides or let them play. Can’t do it one way only.

Isles need to hope Barzal is ok. If he can’t come back, then this is going to be a challenge to close out.
What a big game by the Flyers tonight  
Route 9 : 9/1/2020 10:46 pm : link
I'd be nervous about this series if I were an Islander fan
RE: What a big game by the Flyers tonight  
Mike in NY : 9/1/2020 10:57 pm : link
In comment 14960399 Route 9 said:
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I'd be nervous about this series if I were an Islander fan


They lost Game 2 in similar fashion and proceeded to win Games 3 & 4.
Missed NYI  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2020 11:28 pm : link
vs PHI - first practice of the year for my youngest.

VAN vs LVG tied up at 1. Goals like 20 seconds apart.

Shea Theodore just sick move from the point dekes a couple players then beats Demko top shelf. I'm still unclear why ANA traded him to LVG so they would take Stoner. I forget if Stoner had a bad contract, but at 21 I have to believe Theodore would have been worth more elsewhere.

Brock Boeser answered like 20 seconds later.

Vegas may physically be the biggest NHL team ever.

out of their 4 lines and 6 D and 2 G, there are 2 players under 6 feet. Marchessault and Cousins (and they acquired Cousins from MTL at the deadline). Gives teams fits to play against, it's cool to see a GM have a philosophy, know what he wants, and build a team. I think the expansion draft was more expansion team favorable than the prior ones (Tampa? Ottawa? I forget who was the last ones), but I also thought the Vegas team was going to be horseshit. I felt like they had 4 3rd lines (but solid D and MAF). It worked, I was wrong.

Now the team barely even resembles year 1, with players like Stone, Paccioretty, Stastny, Martinez, Lehner, etc.


RE: What a big game by the Flyers tonight  
KDubbs : 9/1/2020 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14960399 Route 9 said:
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I'd be nervous about this series if I were an Islander fan


oh I am. I have seen an injury to an Isles star in the playoffs during seasons I thought we were good enough to go far(turgeon and peca) i hope this isnt similar with barzal.
Nice knee  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2020 11:46 pm : link
high tip by Pettersson off the Boeser shot to put VAN up 2 - 1.
No handshakes  
pjcas18 : 9/2/2020 12:19 am : link
tonight.

VAN holds off LVG, Demko was great.

3 - 2, LVG lead.
RE: What a big game by the Flyers tonight  
Metnut : 9/2/2020 9:14 am : link
In comment 14960399 Route 9 said:
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I'd be nervous about this series if I were an Islander fan


It’s the NHL playoffs and there’s a game 6 on Thursday night. If your team is still alive and you’re not at least a bit nervous then you don’t have a pulse.
Activity as expected is dwindling as teams go home  
pjcas18 : 9/2/2020 9:19 am : link
today's game

COL vs DAL at 08:00pm on NBCSN, DAL leads 3 - 2.

fun series to watch, so much skill. And DAL adds some grit.
Islanders are the better team.  
BrettNYG10 : 9/2/2020 11:00 am : link
The Flyers haven't impressed me at all this post-season.
RE: Activity as expected is dwindling as teams go home  
BrettNYG10 : 9/2/2020 11:00 am : link
In comment 14960489 pjcas18 said:
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today's game

COL vs DAL at 08:00pm on NBCSN, DAL leads 3 - 2.

fun series to watch, so much skill. And DAL adds some grit.


At least it starts a reasonable time.
RE: RE: Activity as expected is dwindling as teams go home  
pjcas18 : 9/2/2020 11:27 am : link
In comment 14960560 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 14960489 pjcas18 said:


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today's game

COL vs DAL at 08:00pm on NBCSN, DAL leads 3 - 2.

fun series to watch, so much skill. And DAL adds some grit.



At least it starts a reasonable time.


and it figures I'm going to miss it. We have practice again tonight. Another two hours on the ice, 7:40 - 10:10 - with a 30 min break in the middle.
I guess MTL  
pjcas18 : 9/2/2020 12:17 pm : link
has next year's backup.

The Canadiens acquired Jake Allen and a 2022 7th round pick from the Blues in exchange for a 2020 3rd round and 7th round pick.
TDA had some choice words for this approach  
pjcas18 : 9/2/2020 1:32 pm : link
and it's worse in almost every way than what MA is doing (and I think what MA is doing is crazy).

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This is how you trade someone  
pjcas18 : 9/2/2020 2:00 pm : link
let Boston and New York learn a lesson. Mostly Boston, but still sometimes NY.

(or this means the Blues feel they got a really good deal, lol)

this is Blues GM comments on Jake Allen.

Any idea when Isles/Flyers Game 7  
Metnut : 9/2/2020 2:28 pm : link
would be on Saturday if things go badly on Thursday night? Have some potential travel plans on Saturday and trying to set up some contingencies in case I have to watch the game.

Would a 1pm, 3pm or 7-8pm start be most likely on a Saturday?
RE: Any idea when Isles/Flyers Game 7  
pjcas18 : 9/2/2020 2:36 pm : link
In comment 14960697 Metnut said:
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would be on Saturday if things go badly on Thursday night? Have some potential travel plans on Saturday and trying to set up some contingencies in case I have to watch the game.

Would a 1pm, 3pm or 7-8pm start be most likely on a Saturday?


7/8 IMO - only game of the day.
RE: Islanders are the better team.  
Route 9 : 9/2/2020 2:36 pm : link
In comment 14960559 BrettNYG10 said:
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The Flyers haven't impressed me at all this post-season.


I thought this same thing in 2012 with the Devils. I thought no way were the Devils were the better team than the Rangers were and it was in the bag.
RE: RE: What a big game by the Flyers tonight  
Route 9 : 9/2/2020 8:50 pm : link
In comment 14960484 Metnut said:
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In comment 14960399 Route 9 said:


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I'd be nervous about this series if I were an Islander fan



It’s the NHL playoffs and there’s a game 6 on Thursday night. If your team is still alive and you’re not at least a bit nervous then you don’t have a pulse.


Oh with the generic sports fan talk.

There have been plenty of times where a team survived an elimination game and I thought nothing. I'm just rolling with my pick here and decided from what I saw in the last game that the Flyers are not dead in the water.

Hey Claude Giroux finally performed when the rubber met the road and you can quote me for that, Billy Simonson.

Will New York once again choke on the big fat sausage against Philadelphia?
Colorado's up 2-1 over Dallas  
Route 9 : 9/2/2020 9:19 pm : link
...
Missed the game  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 9:42 am : link
last night, sounds like the MacKinnon and Makar show in EDM.

At last we get a game 7.

Tonight - potential handshakes in both games:

PHI vs NYI at 07:00pm on NBCSN, NYI lead 3 - 2, Barzal and Couturier both listed as questionable - both would be big losses.

VAN vs LVG qt 09:45pm on NBCSN, LVG leads 3 - 2

no offense to any fans, nothing personal, but I'm rooting for game 7's.
Seems to be cautious optimism that Barzal  
Metnut : 9/3/2020 9:49 am : link
will play. Less so with Courtier
more on Tampa Bay's cap for next year  
BillKo : 9/3/2020 10:38 am : link
They have about $75M committed next year and still show 10 players on UFA or RFA to sign. Only 3 blue liners signed for 20-21 season.

Flyers missing Couturier will really hurt.......plays both ends of the ice and great faceoff guy.
I think  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 10:47 am : link
in TB only Sergachev and Cirelli are real concerns from an RFA standpoint.

I can see them trading Tyler Johnson (with a pick/prospect) in a cap relief move. Or Palat, Killorn, or Gourde - they're pretty interchangeable IMO.

The bigger issue is what will the cap be - if it goes down, a lot of teams will be f-ed.
Barzal game-time decision  
Metnut : 9/3/2020 11:27 am : link
per Trotz.
Figured as much  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 12:40 pm : link
should get a good deal elsewhere.

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Barzal  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 6:33 pm : link
on the ice for warmups, no couturier
2-0, bitches. Here come my Flyers.  
Route 9 : 9/3/2020 7:33 pm : link
New York teams not putting away Philadelphia teams? Yeah this is new.
NYI  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 7:41 pm : link
cuts the lead in half with PP goal. shot from Toews that Brassard tipped as he got his stick broken.

2 - 1 3 min left in the 1st.
NYI  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 8:07 pm : link
tie it up.

Shot from the point into the pads, 3 on 2 passed to the trailer (Martin) who shoots it off a D into the net.

2 - 2, 18:30 left in the 2nd.
AV challenged  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 8:09 pm : link
goalie interference - terrible challenge.

NYI to the PP
NYI  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 8:12 pm : link
capitalize on the PP Barzal maybe a shot pass on to Lee's stick. Hart had no chance.

3 - 2 NYI
AV is going to cost the Flyers this game.  
BrettNYG10 : 9/3/2020 8:12 pm : link
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RE: AV is going to cost the Flyers this game.  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 8:28 pm : link
In comment 14961648 BrettNYG10 said:
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yeah, no idea why he challenged that and if there is going to be a challenge I don't mind a penalty if you're wrong. Late in games coaches used to use challenges like a time out.
Flyers  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 8:31 pm : link
not rolling over. Good forecheck and offensive zone patience, rebound banged home by Raffel.

3 - 3 6+ left in the second.
Rebound  
trueblueinpw : 9/3/2020 8:31 pm : link
Goal. Tied up.
Awful  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 8:43 pm : link
play by Hart on a behind the net stop - put his D in a bad spot, forces a TO and Barzal goes short side top shelf. 4 - 3 NYI, end of 2.
That was a nice goal...  
trueblueinpw : 9/3/2020 8:43 pm : link
I thought that play was off sides. Guess not.
Sick  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 8:54 pm : link
shot by Barzal
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RE: AV is going to cost the Flyers this game.  
Route 9 : 9/3/2020 9:10 pm : link
In comment 14961648 BrettNYG10 said:
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Doesn't he always shit the bed when it matters most?
......  
Route 9 : 9/3/2020 9:14 pm : link
Hayes with the idiot penalty
Flyers  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 9:16 pm : link
still don't roll over.

Laughton gets behind the D, nice deke, to tie it up.

4 - 4 halfway through the 3rd.

good game.
......  
Route 9 : 9/3/2020 9:17 pm : link
Laughton ties it...
NYI  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 9:29 pm : link
to the PP with under 3 min left in the 3rd.

Could be game.
OT  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 9:33 pm : link
.
Great game.  
Route 9 : 9/3/2020 9:40 pm : link
....
I’m freaking out here...  
Metnut : 9/3/2020 9:46 pm : link
Isles not perfect but playing good enough to win tonight but goal tending really letting us down.

Oh well... we need to finally bury one in OT tonight
I am rooting  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 9:56 pm : link
for game 7's of course, but I really don't care who wins.

That said, it would be cool to see Lindblom score the OT winner.
That is not a penalty  
Mike in NY : 9/3/2020 10:05 pm : link
.
WTF  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 10:05 pm : link
are boucher and jones talking about? slashing the stick is slashing.

unfortunately. I hate it, but they call it all the time every game.
Over the  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 10:19 pm : link
glass delay of game - another penalty I'm not a fan of, PHI to the PP.

they haven't scored a PP goal all series.
Sanheim  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 10:20 pm : link
falls at the blue line and then hooks Cizikas, evening it up at 4.
Double  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 10:24 pm : link
OT, NYI will start on the PP

VAN early lead in EDM over LVG, 1 - 0
That was pretty  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 10:44 pm : link
close - nice job by Varlamov to come out on that shot and stay strong in the scrum.
Hart  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 10:48 pm : link
with another bad transfer to his D.
......  
Route 9 : 9/3/2020 10:52 pm : link
If Flyers win, they definitely need to buy Hart dinner and a few hookers.

"How was your fish?"
......  
Route 9 : 9/3/2020 11:01 pm : link
Who the fuck is the goalie for Vancouver? LOL

Demko??

Flyers win. Game 7. Saturday.
Mayfield  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 11:01 pm : link
breaks his stick (on a pass) and Provorov scores at the othe rend.

We have a game 7.
Tough way to lose  
Anakim : 9/3/2020 11:01 pm : link
Broken stick
RE: ......  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 11:03 pm : link
In comment 14961724 Route 9 said:
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Who the fuck is the goalie for Vancouver? LOL

Demko??

Flyers win. Game 7. Saturday.


From Boston College, American kid (24), once a highly regarded prospect, now getting his chance.
New Yorks expansion of being pathetic  
Route 9 : 9/3/2020 11:03 pm : link
against Philly sports unfortunately... carries on.
All 3 losses this series have been gut punches.  
Metnut : 9/3/2020 11:03 pm : link
Brutal.

Thought the team played a great game tonight. Bad goaltending and a bad break in OT sunk em.
These sticks  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 11:04 pm : link
cost (me) like $250+, i know these guys don't pay probably but I have no idea how they break on a pass.

just a bad stick and puck luck for the Flyers  
spike : 9/3/2020 11:05 pm : link
game 7 it is.
Lady Luck is in the bubble  
trueblueinpw : 9/3/2020 11:06 pm : link
And apparently she was wearing a Broad St sweater. I don’t think I’ve seen a more undeserving win in all my time watching Stanley Cup hockey. Philly looked lazy, tired, undisciplined and almost like they didn’t want to win. I’m happy for a game 7. But, what a shit win.
RE: just a bad stick and puck luck for the Flyers  
Route 9 : 9/3/2020 11:07 pm : link
In comment 14961731 spike said:
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game 7 it is.


Or a higher score. Made up for that miss Hayes had earlier.
Yeah  
pjcas18 : 9/3/2020 11:08 pm : link
the Flyers just don't look like a good team, and they play a boring style and Carter Hart gave up 4 goals in regulation - that's a game you expect a Trotz Islanders team to win.

Hart had 800 shots on him tonight  
Route 9 : 9/3/2020 11:12 pm : link
...
......  
Route 9 : 9/3/2020 11:14 pm : link
Fuckin Demko is good lol that was some crazy scrum over the puck.
Holy shit. What a save by Vegas.  
Route 9 : 9/3/2020 11:16 pm : link
....
PJ  
Anakim : 9/4/2020 12:01 am : link
In hindsight, do you wish the Canadians picked Hughes over Kotkaniemi?
Isles goaltending 5 goals on 31 shots...  
Torrag : 9/4/2020 12:07 am : link
not good enough...

Looks as if we got more game 7s on the way...  
Route 9 : 9/4/2020 12:26 am : link
Nicely done NHL.
The legend  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 9:53 am : link
of Thatcher Demko is born.

48 shot playoff shutout in his first playoffs.

96 shots faced, 95 saves. That .990 save percent and 0.47 GAA might be best of all time for a player with 5 and a 1/2 periods played. And that's the rub, SSS - so hopefully people pump the brakes a little. He's carrying his team though and we as fans get a game 7 because of it.


Today/tonight, there will be handshakes. Twice.

COL vs DAL at 04:00pm on USA
VAN vs LVG at 08:00pm on NBCSN

My prediction is DAL and LVG - it's hard to win 3 in a row, but my hope is for the opposite though watching Heiskanen is fun, watching MacKinnon and Makar is more fun. and in the other game I hate LVG for no good reason.



RE: PJ  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 9:59 am : link
In comment 14961748 Anakim said:
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In hindsight, do you wish the Canadians picked Hughes over Kotkaniemi?


Sure, of course, but that was never the debate. In retrospect, Tkachuk was the right pick. The debate was between Zadina, Tkachuk and Kotkainemi and for now I like the way it happened. Adding in Hughes would be like saying in 2011 instead of Beaulieu at 17 the Canadiens should have taken Kucherov (who didn't go until pick 58.

After Dahlin and Svechnikov most people knew there was no consensus.

And Kotkaniemi didn't have a great sophomore season, he was their 2nd best player in the playoffs (after Suzuki), so I'll take it, but can always second guess drafts.

but to be thorough, this series has highlighted both the insane skill of Quinn Hughes and also the negative aspect of 5' 10" 170 pound defenseman.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 9/4/2020 10:20 am : link
The Flyers and Canucks have been so badly outplayed the past two games IMO. Them forcing game sevens is due to puck luck and goaltending.

I think the NHL should have spread the games sevens out in the west. We are a little ahead of schedule, if I recall, why not give the teams some extra rest?
RE: ....  
BillKo : 9/4/2020 1:05 pm : link
In comment 14961830 BrettNYG10 said:
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The Flyers and Canucks have been so badly outplayed the past two games IMO. Them forcing game sevens is due to puck luck and goaltending.

I think the NHL should have spread the games sevens out in the west. We are a little ahead of schedule, if I recall, why not give the teams some extra rest?


Brett - agreed on the Flyers (haven't watched the other series).

I think it's going to be difficult for Philly to win three in a row if the play continues in the Islanders' direction.

Last night a bad end of PP and broken stick contributed to 2 goals.

Last night the Flyers had 4 goals on less than 18 shots....c'mon, unacceptable.

Do the Islanders consider a goalie change (I am not sure how they use their goalies)...............????
RE: ....  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 1:14 pm : link
In comment 14961830 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
The Flyers and Canucks have been so badly outplayed the past two games IMO. Them forcing game sevens is due to puck luck and goaltending.

I think the NHL should have spread the games sevens out in the west. We are a little ahead of schedule, if I recall, why not give the teams some extra rest?


If I were a fan of either team I'd agree with you - better rested players would mean better hockey, but as a fan in general I don't care if they play every day. lol.

these guys had 4 and a half months to rest.
really hate how much the Isles dominated that game and lost  
Eric on Li : 9/4/2020 1:39 pm : link
Trotz has an interesting decision with Greiss + Varlamov.

Varlamov has been shaky since the shutout streak broke. Greiss was lights out in his 1 start. I have never been a Greiss fan but he was so good in that game I'd have considered riding with him.

It's a game 7 and anything can happen, but if they can come out like they did yesterday you have to like their chances. Hart absolutely stole that one.
Come on, baby.  
Route 9 : 9/4/2020 3:43 pm : link
We'll be able to fly like Flyers don't fear the orange.
Watch out for Colorado if they fight all the way back here...  
Torrag : 9/4/2020 3:54 pm : link
that lineup oozes young talent. If they get the bit between their teeth they could get on a roll here.

1-1 between Dallas/Colorado  
Route 9 : 9/4/2020 4:24 pm : link
....
Bad giveaway  
Route 9 : 9/4/2020 4:28 pm : link
Andre burakovsky scores and makes it 2-1
Avs up 3-2 halfway thru the 3rd...  
Torrag : 9/4/2020 6:14 pm : link
...
Radulov  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 6:24 pm : link
ties is up at 3, under 8 left.

Come on OT.

Nothing better in any sport IMO than game 7 OT in hockey.
WOW. Clutch goal by the Avalanche  
Anakim : 9/4/2020 6:31 pm : link
With 3 minutes to go
Damn  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 6:31 pm : link
Stars not cooperating. Now they need to tie it up.
And the Stars tie it up!  
Anakim : 9/4/2020 6:32 pm : link
.
un  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 6:32 pm : link
believable
And we're headed to OT, though barely after that last scrum.  
Anakim : 9/4/2020 6:38 pm : link
C'mon Stars. Get that GWG
And we have  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 6:38 pm : link
a game 7 OT!!!

What a game! Game 7 OT  
Route 9 : 9/4/2020 6:39 pm : link
Now quit your bitching
Who had  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 7:07 pm : link
Kiviranta with the hat trick and game 7 OT winner?

lol

I don't think either of these two teams have the goaltending to win, but so much talent.
Rooting for Vancouver tonight  
Mike in NY : 9/4/2020 7:13 pm : link
If someone bet that they would have made a mint
Rangers second first round draft pick scenarios:  
Anakim : 9/4/2020 7:17 pm : link
If both VAN/LI win, it's 21

If one of VAN/LI win, it's 22

If neither win, it's 23
I like it when teams who blow a lead late  
Route 9 : 9/4/2020 7:21 pm : link
lose the game.

You go ahead and give it right up 10 seconds later? Good. Choke on that. Dallas wins it. Unreal game.
I like it when teams who blow a lead late  
Route 9 : 9/4/2020 7:22 pm : link
lose the game.

You go ahead and give it right up 10 seconds later? Good. Choke on that. Dallas wins it. Unreal game.
RE: Rangers second first round draft pick scenarios:  
Route 9 : 9/4/2020 7:23 pm : link
In comment 14962113 Anakim said:
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If both VAN/LI win, it's 21

If one of VAN/LI win, it's 22

If neither win, it's 23


And another 23 years without a cup.
Such  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 9:30 pm : link
a stupid penalty by Virtanen.
Avs get the benefit of extended play and a bitter taste in their mouth  
Torrag : 9/4/2020 9:41 pm : link
This group should be a contender for a while. As far as 'not having the goaltending' it depends on the opponent. If they face the Isles for example it's a wash.
IMO Hutchinson  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 9:45 pm : link
<> Varlamov or Greiss. He's a 3rd string goalie for a reason. Even Francouz is not in Varlamov or Greiss' class IMO. If Grubbauer played it would be closer and maybe a wash - I wouldn't argue that one too much, but usually a Trotz system props up a goalie by limiting scoring chances and high danger shots.
It feels like what Thatcher Demko  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 9:50 pm : link
is doing is historic. I hope VAN wins so he can keep it up.

There is no way VAN should still be alive in this series nor should this game be tied.

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Shots on goal: 11-2 VGK
Shot attempts: 27-6 VGK
Scoring chances*: 8-2 VGK
High-danger chances*: 3-1 VGK
Hits: 24-9 VGK

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'Varlamov or Greiss' class'  
Torrag : 9/4/2020 9:55 pm : link
Varlamov or Greiss don't have a 'class'. They are mediocre. It's pointless to attempt to differentiate between different levels of suck. You either suck or you don't. They do.
The goaltending in VAN-VGK game 7  
BH28 : 9/4/2020 10:25 pm : link
Has been incredible so far. Vegas goalie with the save of the game so far
major penalty  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 10:35 pm : link
for Reaves.

under review.
Reaves  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 10:36 pm : link
get the gate for a hit to the head.
Demko..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/4/2020 10:38 pm : link
has been absolutely incredible. This has been fun to watch the past few nights.
He tried to avoid the hit  
MetsAreBack : 9/4/2020 10:38 pm : link
And now skaters bear no responsibility for skating with their heads down?

I think that’s bullshit. I’m sure it’s the rule but that’s terrible
Vancouver..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/4/2020 10:40 pm : link
pissing away the power play so far
Two EXCEPTIONAL game 7s  
Route 9 : 9/4/2020 10:41 pm : link
Today thus far
RE: He tried to avoid the hit  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 10:41 pm : link
In comment 14962311 MetsAreBack said:
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And now skaters bear no responsibility for skating with their heads down?

I think that’s bullshit. I’m sure it’s the rule but that’s terrible


I think if he made that same hit without making contact to the head he avoids a penalty completely.
You can't..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/4/2020 10:41 pm : link
lay a shoulder to the head. It's going to be a penalty every time. Not sure about the ejection, but the hit was definitely a penalty
once  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 10:45 pm : link
they called a major - which comes with an automatic review, b/c he made head contact the ejection is mandatory.
The skater has his head down for seconds and low  
MetsAreBack : 9/4/2020 10:45 pm : link
And Reaves actually turns his whole body around to avoid a much harsher hit and nails him with his back. It’s a minor at worst.

I know some enjoy a goalie performance like this but if Vancouver wins this game imo it basically wraps the East the Cup. Maybe the islanders or flyers. Vegas is so much better outside of goalie. It’s getting annoying.
100% the  
Carl in CT : 9/4/2020 10:56 pm : link
Right call there.
Oh okay  
MetsAreBack : 9/4/2020 10:57 pm : link
Hi Carl
Vegas is a tough matchup  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 11:00 pm : link
for anyone. Size throughout that lineup. and it's not like they have no skill: Stone, Pacioretty, Marchessault, Stastny etc.

I think VAN actually matches up better vs the east teams than they do LVG.

One positive I guess  
MetsAreBack : 9/4/2020 11:02 pm : link
Is if Vancouver pulls the upset the Rangers ‘Carolina pick’ moves up one more slot (currently anywhere from 21 to 23)
holy shit  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 11:02 pm : link
demko.

RE: holy shit  
Mike in NY : 9/4/2020 11:03 pm : link
In comment 14962331 pjcas18 said:
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demko.

Amen
lol  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 11:04 pm : link
Vancouver has 7 shots.

there is 16 minutes left in the game.
This is a great..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/4/2020 11:06 pm : link
example of how going to a game 7 can allow a team with a hot goaltender to stay in the game.

If Vancouver wins, Las Vegas will have to be absolutely sick. Just like the Isles will be.
Demko..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/4/2020 11:07 pm : link
is a wall. Vegas is basically running their offense as if they are on a power play
RE: This is a great..  
MetsAreBack : 9/4/2020 11:13 pm : link
In comment 14962336 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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example of how going to a game 7 can allow a team with a hot goaltender to stay in the game.

If Vancouver wins, Las Vegas will have to be absolutely sick. Just like the Isles will be.


Demko has been unbeatable for 3 games now. Stopped I think 109 of 110
Shots or something. It’s not a game 7 issue. He’d have stolen the series like Halak did.

But I don’t think vegas has been dirty enough in front of the net - they get cute at times. They need like a Simmonds in his prime
Canucks have only 12 shots on goal  
Anakim : 9/4/2020 11:14 pm : link
If they win this, they need to buy Demko a steak dinner every day for a year.
Jesus Demko is putting on a show...  
Torrag : 9/4/2020 11:16 pm : link
reminiscent of when Beezer dragged an ordinary Panthers club to the Finals.
Agree MAB  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 11:17 pm : link
not enough traffic in front of the net. No screens, tips, redirections, etc.

I'm a little surprised no one on Vegas has gone hard to the net on the rush.

VAN to the PP.
Jeez..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/4/2020 11:18 pm : link
VAN is so damn tentative
I hate  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 11:19 pm : link
the drop back on the power play rush.

Every team does it and it leave 4 players riding the blue line.
And there it is  
Anakim : 9/4/2020 11:25 pm : link
Goal on the PP for the Knights
LVG  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 11:25 pm : link
break through on the PP, at this rate it should be enough.
RE: LVG  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/4/2020 11:26 pm : link
In comment 14962358 pjcas18 said:
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break through on the PP, at this rate it should be enough.


Thinking the same thing
Demko  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 11:34 pm : link
out
ENG  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 11:35 pm : link
should seal it.
ENG. 2-0  
Anakim : 9/4/2020 11:35 pm : link
.
Cue the Vancouver riots  
Anakim : 9/4/2020 11:36 pm : link
.
Vegas deserved that game.  
BrettNYG10 : 9/4/2020 11:36 pm : link
.
Lehnar with the save of the game.  
BH28 : 9/4/2020 11:40 pm : link
The way Demko was stopping everything, if Vancouver scored on that goal it would have been extremely deflating for Vegas.
Three locked in  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2020 11:42 pm : link
DAL vs LVG - this series is going to be awesome. DAL matches up better against LVG than VAN did IMO - skater for skater. Their weakness is in net though, so it will be interesting. DAL has much better size and grit than VAN and won't get pushed around IMO like VAN did.

TBL vs the winner of NYI vs PHI tomorrow at 7:30
RE: Three locked in  
Anakim : 9/4/2020 11:57 pm : link
In comment 14962369 pjcas18 said:
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DAL vs LVG - this series is going to be awesome. DAL matches up better against LVG than VAN did IMO - skater for skater. Their weakness is in net though, so it will be interesting. DAL has much better size and grit than VAN and won't get pushed around IMO like VAN did.

TBL vs the winner of NYI vs PHI tomorrow at 7:30


Gotta think the Knights have the edge in that series
slight edge to Vegas in WCF series...  
Torrag : 9/5/2020 12:00 am : link
based more on goaltending than anything.
RE: RE: Three locked in  
pjcas18 : 9/5/2020 12:12 am : link
In comment 14962374 Anakim said:
Quote:
In comment 14962369 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


DAL vs LVG - this series is going to be awesome. DAL matches up better against LVG than VAN did IMO - skater for skater. Their weakness is in net though, so it will be interesting. DAL has much better size and grit than VAN and won't get pushed around IMO like VAN did.

TBL vs the winner of NYI vs PHI tomorrow at 7:30



Gotta think the Knights have the edge in that series


Vegas will be favored and they have the better goalie by far.

But I'm picking the Stars.

My picks were BOS vs LVG (I think) in the beginning, so I'm going against my early prediction.

RE: Vegas deserved that game.  
ColHowPepper : 9/5/2020 10:07 am : link
In comment 14962367 BrettNYG10 said

No question. Wasn't only so much that Vegas was smothering VAN attempts at mounting an attack (anemic PP only punctuated that), it stood out to me at least that VAN skaters exuded 'we're beaten' and their only hope was Demko. VAN skaters has zero confidence in their own end and in the LVK end, no conviction. They were letting fly with clears in their own end and with passes attempting to mount rushes that smacked of desperation 2nd and esp. 3rd period.

Only exception was that two-on-one on which Lehner made that remarkable save mirroring several that Demko made.

Knights remind me of Kings mid-last decade: they play very heavy but much better skating team as a whole. McPhee has done an absolutely phenomenal job.

(Parenthetically: As much talent as NYR appear to be assembling, JD has to be watching these SCP (with CAR fresh in mind) and wondering if a predominantly skill/skating formula can be successful against Western Conf winners, incl. St.L last year)
Reaves gets a game  
pjcas18 : 9/5/2020 7:42 pm : link
suspension. So, after the dust settles, snd the league with review determined the hit was that egregious it deserved a game on top of the ejection.
Isles come out flying up 2-0 in the 1st and on a PP  
Torrag : 9/5/2020 8:09 pm : link
If they're goaltending holds up they should advance...Greiss in net which I think was the right call by Trotz.
AV'd to the extreme  
Anakim : 9/5/2020 9:15 pm : link
Atrocious effort by the Flyers
'AV'd to the extreme'  
Torrag : 9/5/2020 9:47 pm : link
I'm no AV apologist but Trotz has the better roster. Hart was really his only chance in this series and Greiss has been good enough tonight to counter him.
27 long f'ing years  
KDubbs : 9/5/2020 10:05 pm : link
so happy to see the ECF again. No Patrick Roy waiting this time. wooo
RE: 'AV'd to the extreme'  
JayBinQueens : 9/5/2020 10:13 pm : link
In comment 14963052 Torrag said:
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I'm no AV apologist but Trotz has the better roster. Hart was really his only chance in this series and Greiss has been good enough tonight to counter him.

Hart did what he could. Forced 7 games. Wouldn't put this on him at all (not saying you are, just in general)
Opinions on Flyers' roster might differ  
ColHowPepper : 9/6/2020 8:53 am : link
Were they the No. 1 seed by accident or voter suppression? The return of Peloch was huge, Greene and JP canny acquisitions, gelled at the right time.

Have to hand it to NHL planners for another reason: Had the EC Finals stayed in Toronto, the Western Conf winner would have had 'home ice advantage' because of familiarity from their extended stay at Rogers Place. They still might. At least TBL or NYI get a series to get acclimated a bit.
And then there were four  
pjcas18 : 9/6/2020 9:39 am : link
WCF starts tonight.

DAL vs LVG at 08:00pm on NBC.

Everyone has LVG favored, and I love their blue line and size, but DAL has far more skill and grit too (and size of their own). I think this comes down to who stays out of the box. I will go against the grain and against my early pick and call for the upset. DAL wins in 7.

Vegas the favorite (on money puck), Dallas the lowest probability. (66/34)

NYI vs TBL almost a pick 'em, TBL favored 51/49

i'm surprised the NYI aren't more of an underdog  
Eric on Li : 9/6/2020 10:01 am : link
will be a really interesting series since it's a clash of styles. Although TB just got warmed up for that by dismantling the Bruins who play a different style but have a lot of the same elements.

I can't imagine this series is anything like the PHI series though for the Isles, they aren't going to out shoot and possess TB, so it will likely have to be more of a counter attack series where the main objective will be keeping TB to the perimeter in the offensive zone. And ST will be a bigger swing factor even if the refs hopefully continue swallowing their whistles. Can't give TB powerplays and need to convert on the chances they get. As dominant as the win was yesterday they blew a few PP chances.

Varly vs. Greiss will be an interesting call. I think I'd go back to Varly now as opposed to making him dwell on the bench. we know Greiss can handle that emotionally and still come in and play well. Give Varly game 1, gives Greiss a little extra rest since there was only 1 day off, and then go from there.
Congrats to Islanders and their fans  
Rick in Dallas : 9/6/2020 10:27 am : link
well done beating the hated Flyers
Coach of Year: Trotz?  
ColHowPepper : 9/6/2020 10:32 am : link
.
RE: Coach of Year: Trotz?  
pjcas18 : 9/6/2020 10:33 am : link
In comment 14963209 ColHowPepper said:
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Not even a finalist - they vote before the playoffs start.

Cassidy, Torts, and AV.

Trotz won last year and this year's team was pacing similarly  
Eric on Li : 9/6/2020 11:31 am : link
so it's perfectly valid that he wouldn't win it again. Last year they exceeded expectations dramatically, this year they were projected to be in the WC race and that's where they were (and pre shutdown they were on a bad losing streak, and pretty lackluster few months after the early season winning streak).

If there's an award for best coaching performance in the Toronto bubble he'd prob win that.
MAF  
pjcas18 : 9/6/2020 6:50 pm : link
gets the start tonight for LVG.

I'm a little surprised because Lehner has played so well, but MAF has better numbers vs the Stars (though that seems kind of random to me).
very surprising unless Lehner is just tired?  
Eric on Li : 9/6/2020 6:53 pm : link
switching off 3 shutouts in the last series would otherwise be a very curious decision.
RE: very surprising unless Lehner is just tired?  
pjcas18 : 9/6/2020 6:56 pm : link
In comment 14963816 Eric on Li said:
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switching off 3 shutouts in the last series would otherwise be a very curious decision.


Surprising to me too. And you know hockey coaches - they're all Belichickian - in fact I wouldn't be shocked if Belichick developed his media persona from watching hockey coaches. I doubt they'd ever tell the real reason - injury, fatigue, hunch, etc.
this is a guess but I would guess he just thinks it's the best chance  
Eric on Li : 9/6/2020 7:27 pm : link
he'll get to give him a little rest before the end of the season if they advance. If they get into a long series here and Lehner is playing well every game further gets harder to make a move. And certainly in the SC all bets are off. With the tight turnaround from game 7 my guess is he wanted to get him a little rest and this was the best chance to not get stuck having to make the switch at a less convenient time in the future.
DAL  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 9:00 am : link
pitches a shut out, the loss had zero to do with MAF, more to do wit Khudobin. I don't think Lehner would have made a difference.

Stars were money on the dots. Such an underrated area of hockey, sometimes after a goal, a failed power play, a backbreaking penalty - it can all be traced to a face off win/loss.

Good game.

Today:
NYI vs TBL at 08:00pm on NBCSN, this is the first game in the series - moneypuck has TBL as a slight favorite and in this series I am going with TBL. I think it will be close - a lot of one goal or OT (hopefully) games.



LVK looked like completely different team  
ColHowPepper : 9/7/2020 12:13 pm : link
against DAL compared to VAN, almost LVK:VAN :: DAL:LVK last night at least, in terms of control of play.

Lehner, in the handshake line, looked exhausted, so rest/fatigue might be real. Do I have it right that there were questions in LVK opting for Lehner (from Sabres?) because he had off-ice issues, emotional issues? I don't mean to suggest he is experiencing stability issues now, but they have a way of surfacing during periods of high stress.

But maybe I have that as wrong as I had Trots (thank you pj and Eric for obligatory correction, I'll have to accept COY in Toronto Bubble land)

As a lifelong NYR fan (season tix for several of GAG line years and truant from college heading down to Sunday nights at the old (the only true) MSG to sit in the rafters and bang that tin roof to a farethewell), I need help in sorting out my feelings for NYI: do I root for them hard as Metro brethren or root against them?
VAN  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 12:23 pm : link
is a finesse team for the most part IMO.

LVG is not. They use their size to their advantage and basically seemed to dominate possession and dominated in the corners vs VAN.

They cannot do that against Dallas who has bigger, physical D and bigger, physical, forwards.

I barely even noticed Elias Pettersson the last couple games vs LVG.
Not so sure I'd call the B's defense "brutal".....  
BillKo : 9/7/2020 4:10 pm : link
...they gave up 7 in one game to Tampa, but beyond that playing with their backup exclusively and certainly did well enough (including some flukey type goals)

Their main issue was scoring at equal strength.
Let's go Islanders. My new team.  
Route 9 : 9/7/2020 4:25 pm : link
...
RE: Not so sure I'd call the B's defense  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 4:31 pm : link
In comment 14964231 BillKo said:
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...they gave up 7 in one game to Tampa, but beyond that playing with their backup exclusively and certainly did well enough (including some flukey type goals)

Their main issue was scoring at equal strength.


McAvoy and Carlo are the only D I'd want on my team and Carlo would be a bottom pair - so much potential, so little growth.

McAvoy should be a Norris contender, but Chara, Krug, Grzelcyk, Clifton, Moore, Miller don't make my team unless it's Krug as a PP specialist or Clifton as depth.

interesting  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 5:02 pm : link
Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
·
25m
#oilers close to acquiring Matt Murray
Rooting for Dallas and Isles this Round  
Torrag : 9/7/2020 5:41 pm : link
Don't want an expansion team to win so soon and I can't stand Tampa Bay. Despite the rangers/isles history the team from long island has been so inconsequential for so long I can't manufacture any animus toward them. I expect as the rangers talent develops and the teams once again compete for something significant in the near future the old bile will resurface. For now just beat Tampa.
jesus  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 8:12 pm : link
brayden point turned on the jets.

TBL up 1 - 0
Chris  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 8:16 pm : link
Rooney not afraid to use his whistle.

weak call on the face off interference.

NYI to the PP.
NYI  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 8:18 pm : link
come right back on the PP.

Love the puck movement.
Eberle was due  
Eric on Li : 9/7/2020 8:21 pm : link
that goal by Point was sick. Haven't seen a player juke Pulock like that in a long time.
Hedman  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 8:26 pm : link
with a bomb on the PP to put TBL up 2 - 1.

great pace so far.
Tampa looks like they are aggressively jumping the NYI outlet spots  
Eric on Li : 9/7/2020 8:30 pm : link
in the offensive zone. Isles may need to get aggressive with some long passes to get them playing honest again.

Tampa has created more turnovers on zone exit attempts in this period than the rest of the bubble games combined vs NYI.
Now McDonagh  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 8:31 pm : link
I wonder if Trotz makes a goalie change - though none of the three really on the goalie

3 - 1 TBL
Here  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 8:32 pm : link
comes Varlamov
swear to gosh I've heard McDonough's name  
ColHowPepper : 9/7/2020 8:34 pm : link
more in a half period of this series than all Series vs Boston

Islanders going to have to adjust to not playing the Flyers

This broadcast crew is two heads and shoulders above Kenny Albert, et al.
Kucherov on fire  
ColHowPepper : 9/7/2020 8:35 pm : link
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glad to see the isles pushing back a little  
Eric on Li : 9/7/2020 8:40 pm : link
big PP here to get to a 1 goal game at intermission.

gotta be honest this first period has been like whiplash from a NYI perspective compared to the flyers series where there were only like 1 or 2 powerplays per game.
Sloppy  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 8:45 pm : link
play by TBL, no idea what sergachev was thinking there and there was a turnover right before that by Point.

NYI to their 3rd PP of the period.
TBL still up 3 - 1  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 8:48 pm : link
after 1.

13 seconds left on the PP.

NYI really good puck movement on the PP, and TBL PKers way too aggressive for the NYI skill. I think if they're a little more patient they'll get some even better chances on the PP.

Nelson should have buried 1 of his chances  
Eric on Li : 9/7/2020 8:56 pm : link
all of them were right in his wheelhouse. Next goal is a big one but this game flow 100% favors TB so perhaps more important than the final score is the islanders finding a way to adjust so they can play their game. They might have enough skill to play with Tampa for a period or if they are lucky a full game but not over multiple games.
RE: Nelson should have buried 1 of his chances  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 9:02 pm : link
In comment 14964529 Eric on Li said:
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all of them were right in his wheelhouse. Next goal is a big one but this game flow 100% favors TB so perhaps more important than the final score is the islanders finding a way to adjust so they can play their game. They might have enough skill to play with Tampa for a period or if they are lucky a full game but not over multiple games.


I think the puck was moving on the breakaway. I thought he would bury that one.
I have never  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 9:10 pm : link
seen this before.

I thought it maybe went it, but I thought they had to wait for a stoppage in play
4 - 1  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 9:11 pm : link
TBL
Snore  
Route 9 : 9/7/2020 9:14 pm : link
Islanders down by 3
No idea  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 9:24 pm : link
how that stayed out.

If TBL keeps going to the box they will let NYI back into the game. The NYI PP has just one goal out of 4 (?) PP's but they're all over it.
Isles are still in this game...  
trueblueinpw : 9/7/2020 9:25 pm : link
Would have been nice to convert on the PP but there’s still time to get back in this game. Need a goal before intermission.
RE: Isles are still in this game...  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 9:26 pm : link
In comment 14964558 trueblueinpw said:
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Would have been nice to convert on the PP but there’s still time to get back in this game. Need a goal before intermission.


agree. It's not over. and the NYI PP is buzzing. Barzal had a great chance plus the shot that hit the crossbar and post.
another weak  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 9:27 pm : link
call. Sure, by letter of the law it's a penalty, but that doesn't have to be called.

TBL to the PP.
That  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 9:30 pm : link
is just a dumb penalty by Greene.
Point  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 9:31 pm : link
tips in the Hedman shot, now 5 - 1 TBL
I'm shocked by this  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 9:32 pm : link
not unhappy, just shocked (if it's true)

Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
·
4m
#gohabsgo
Plan to offer Max Domi a contract extension of 6 years @ 6.25 million per year.
Welp...  
trueblueinpw : 9/7/2020 9:32 pm : link
There’s always game two for the angry fishermen.
this has the makings  
KDubbs : 9/7/2020 9:34 pm : link
of a sweep unfortunately. if their stars are just going to be able to get to the front without paying a price, this will get uglier
Not surprised at this even a little  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 9:39 pm : link
ARI is a disaster.

Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
·
55s
Also from a source: “100% no chance Taylor Hall re-signs with Arizona” #nhl
NYI  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 9:41 pm : link
just need to not panic and I know with Trotz they won't.

Use the last 2 min of the second and the 3rd period to push back a little, and if they can't get all the way back in this one, they know what they're dealing with for game 2.
Beauvilier  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 9:43 pm : link
has to shoot that.
This is also  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 9:52 pm : link
"good" for the Islanders. No f-ing way TBL manages this again.

Quote:
Evolving-Hockey
@EvolvingHockey
Apparently the Lightning haven't missed the net yet and have been incredibly efficient

LOL  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 9:53 pm : link
seeing Nelson's missed shot from the doorstep in a graph is kind of funny (no offense).
RE: I'm shocked by this  
BrettNYG10 : 9/7/2020 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14964571 pjcas18 said:
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not unhappy, just shocked (if it's true)

Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
·
4m
#gohabsgo
Plan to offer Max Domi a contract extension of 6 years @ 6.25 million per year.


I kind of think this is a good deal if he signs it.
weird game - the exact opposite pace than what the NYI need  
Eric on Li : 9/7/2020 10:04 pm : link
but they actually held their own in terms of chances. The difference has been Point/Hedman insane skill levels to finish the chances they got and goaltending.

I'm actually as weirdly optimistic on a 5-1 drubbing as one could probably feel. Though the nyi need to find a sustainable pace they can play at.
RE: RE: I'm shocked by this  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14964599 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 14964571 pjcas18 said:


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not unhappy, just shocked (if it's true)

Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
·
4m
#gohabsgo
Plan to offer Max Domi a contract extension of 6 years @ 6.25 million per year.



I kind of think this is a good deal if he signs it.


It's great for him, decent for the Canadiens, he's a top 6 forward.

but it means Tatar is being traded or Danault is being traded (I think). Hopefully Tatar.

sauce  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 10:15 pm : link
from Shattenkirk to Kucherov redirects to Point who sends it back to Kucherov who goes 5 hole on Varlamov.

6 - 1 TBL.
Leddy  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 10:18 pm : link
gets one back with a laser from the slot.

6 - 2 TBL
TBL answer  
pjcas18 : 9/7/2020 10:20 pm : link
Palat with the deke after passes from Kucherov and Point - after the Toews turnover.

7 - 2 TBL
I feel like this is pretty amazing  
pjcas18 : 9/8/2020 8:40 am : link
and I posted a graph of it above (though I think that was before the 3rd period).

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
· 9h
TB went 58:53 without missing the net. First (and only) miss with 67 seconds to go (Paquette).
DAL  
pjcas18 : 9/8/2020 10:10 am : link
vs LVG at 08:00pm on NBCSN, DAL leads 1 - 0. We will see if LVG responds, I think they will, I expect a close series, these teams match up well IMO.
.  
pjcas18 : 9/8/2020 1:23 pm : link

New Jersey Devils
@NJDevils
· 20m
#NEWS: The New Jersey Devils have hired new assistant coach, Mark Recchi.

Welcome to JERZ, Mark!

#WeAreOne | #NJDevils
Show this thread
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pjcas18 : 9/8/2020 1:46 pm : link
Holy shit. 8-2?  
Route 9 : 9/8/2020 2:36 pm : link
What happened to that formidable Islander defense that we always hear about?
RE: Holy shit. 8-2?  
pjcas18 : 9/8/2020 3:08 pm : link
In comment 14965112 Route 9 said:
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What happened to that formidable Islander defense that we always hear about?


they got steamrolled. 40 years ago in the SCF the Islanders lost game 2 to the Flyers 8 - 3 and won the series.

I wouldn't worry about it. yet.

.  
pjcas18 : 9/8/2020 4:35 pm : link
Forever Blueshirts
@4EverBlueshirts
·
2m
I have no definitive info on this, but my educated guess tells me the #NYR
are very likely to move the 22nd pick of the draft. I'm 80% certain.
RE: .  
Anakim : 9/8/2020 4:56 pm : link
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Forever Blueshirts
@4EverBlueshirts
·
2m
I have no definitive info on this, but my educated guess tells me the #NYR
are very likely to move the 22nd pick of the draft. I'm 80% certain.


Yeah, it's a possibility they make another trade like they did last year with Trouba. They need a #1 LD and a 2C.
Vegas  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 9:55 am : link
evens up the series.

Lehner replaces MAF and throws the shutout.

I didn't see it, had practice for my daughter and then my own game (1st game since early March - there isn't enough advil on the planet to help me recover from that), so can't offer anything other than the box score.

tonight:
NYI look to rebound from game 1 at 08:00pm vs TBL on NBCSN

I actually think the NYI win tonight  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 11:10 am : link
but this is funny:

Quote:
The Morning Skate
@Morning_Skate
·
14m
Lets check in on how Islanders fans are doing today

Much better than  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 3:11 pm : link
Rooney IMO.

Scouting The Refs
@ScoutingTheRefs
·
3m
Refs Steve Kozari and Kelly Sutherland work #Isles
#GoBolts
with Scott Cherrey and Kiel Murchison
https://scoutingtherefs.com/2020/09/29793/todays-nhl-stanley-cup-playoff-referees-and-linesmen-9-9-20/

#NYI #TBL #NYIvsTBL #Islanders #Lightning #NHL
.  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 7:55 pm : link
Adam Gretz
@AGretz
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29s
Bruins coach Bruce Cassidy wins Jack Adams Award. https://bit.ly/33djWGr | @NHLonNBCSports
.  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 7:56 pm : link
Renaud Lavoie
@renlavoietva
·
22m
Derick Brassard OUT vs @TBLightning
@NYIslanders
@TVASports
NYI  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 8:13 pm : link
look to erase game 1 from their memory, start out fast.

nice forecheck creates a chance and Martin beats Vasilevsky.

1 - 0 NYI
Can this game 2 be called pivotal?  
ColHowPepper : 9/9/2020 8:16 pm : link
.
No  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 8:19 pm : link
I don't think so, but no one wants to be down 2 - 0.

NYI dominating zone time, have the TBL hemmed in the zone.
NYI  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 8:21 pm : link
going to the PP with a 5 min major on Killorn.

being reviewed now.
Killorn  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 8:22 pm : link
ejected for boarding, in addition to the 5.

Now TBL  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 8:22 pm : link
can't roll 4 lines, they only dress 11 forwards. Down to 10 now.
warrants suspension beyond the Game  
ColHowPepper : 9/9/2020 8:24 pm : link
Misconduct, imo
RE: warrants suspension beyond the Game  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 8:25 pm : link
In comment 14966290 ColHowPepper said:
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Misconduct, imo

Possible, I think he could get a game.
7 min left  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 8:31 pm : link
in the 1st, shots are 11 - 3 for NYI.

the 5 min major helped, but NYI dominating.

losing Killorn is huge.
TBL  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 8:34 pm : link
to the PP
Off the bad  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 8:40 pm : link
icing, TBL wins the draw and a Hedman bomb (tipped?) ties it up
shattenkirk  
KDubbs : 9/9/2020 8:55 pm : link
touched that f'ing puck
LOL  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 8:56 pm : link
Hedman when asked about how they'll handle 10 forwards:

"means more ice time"

a minute  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 9:06 pm : link
in to the second, Kucherov dive leads to a TBL PP.
Point to the dressing room  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 9:26 pm : link
TBL in trouble, but at least it evens the lines out.

NYI need to capitalize.
Goodrow  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 9:27 pm : link
gets away with a cross check on Nelson and if there are concussion spotters they might want to have a talk with Nelson.
What a save by Varlamov  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 9:32 pm : link
on Maroon.
Nelson cross checks Maroon after - no call.

Much different game than with Rooney at ref.
Great period  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 9:49 pm : link
no goals, but some chances and solid hitting
Barzal  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 9:53 pm : link
didn't even seem out of breath in that between period interview.

Usually the players are gasping.

If I'm the NYI I hit everything that moved in the 3rd.

9 forwards will take it's toll before the game is over.
the targeting of Nelson's head after  
ColHowPepper : 9/9/2020 10:13 pm : link
Killorn's hit has to be reviewed post game; it's clearly intent to (further) injure, craven.

Isles just can't capitalize with the man advantage
RE: the targeting of Nelson's head after  
JayBinQueens : 9/9/2020 10:14 pm : link
In comment 14966364 ColHowPepper said:
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Killorn's hit has to be reviewed post game; it's clearly intent to (further) injure, craven.

Isles just can't capitalize with the man advantage


After Kilorn's hit meaning when Gooddrow cross checked his neck into the boards?
Man  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 10:16 pm : link
I can't stand Cooper. just seems like a dick.
Soft  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 10:18 pm : link
call on McDonagh, NYI to the PP.
38  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 10:22 pm : link
Seconds of 5 on 3, timeout call (TBL?)

face off is huge here.
back to 5 on 4  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 10:25 pm : link
McDonagh turns it over, but Vasilevsky with a huge save.

then Bouvilier takes a bad angle shot that misses
shoot  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 10:37 pm : link
the puck
holy  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 10:38 pm : link
shit, TBL takes the lead 2 - 1 with 7 seconds left
cant score  
KDubbs : 9/9/2020 10:39 pm : link
if you never fucking shoot. thanks isles
What the hell were the Islanders doing?  
Anakim : 9/9/2020 10:39 pm : link
A partial breakaway, Palat open in front of the net and then the goal.


Atrocious play by the Islanders
Nikita  
Carl in CT : 9/9/2020 10:40 pm : link
Nice!!!!!
And good night  
Route 9 : 9/9/2020 10:40 pm : link
Tampa Bay up 2 games to 0. What a choke job by the Islanders.
defensive  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 10:41 pm : link
zone breakdown at the end of a good game, and TBL capitalize.

They didn't want OT obviously with a short bench.

But no Killorn and no Point, and the NYI have to be beside themselves for losing this one.

Nice quick shot  
Route 9 : 9/9/2020 10:43 pm : link
....
Well that sucked.  
Pete in MD : 9/9/2020 10:48 pm : link
Isles looked like the better team and still lost.
What  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 10:48 pm : link
a dick
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RE: What  
Anakim : 9/9/2020 10:49 pm : link
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I'd be pumped too. Don't blame him for letting emotions get the best of him.
RE: RE: What  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2020 10:52 pm : link
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I'd be pumped too. Don't blame him for letting emotions get the best of him.


He's a coach, he's supposed to keep it in and be stoic.

Heartbreaker... almost as brutal as game 6  
Metnut : 9/9/2020 11:06 pm : link
vs Philly but it’ll be harder to come back from this being down in the series vs a much better team.

Still, hope isn’t lost yet. Isles looked the better team for stretches, even when Point was in. Just need to find a way to win on Friday night and we’ll see where things go from there.
terrible loss all around  
Eric on Li : 9/9/2020 11:09 pm : link
most concerning thing was that they isles looked like the more tired team after the first despite tb being down 3 F's.

NYI felt like a big underdog entering the series so that remains so, just wish TB wasn't playing the cheap shot game. Really hope the NYI can win game 3 and at least make it a series.
toews  
KDubbs : 9/9/2020 11:09 pm : link
should sit. all playoffs his icings have hurt and that pass at the end when he had an open shot is just irritating. the entire god damn team refuses to shoot. 5 on 3 for 38 secs and not 1 attempted shot. obviously i love the coach but this quality over quantity shooting is stupid
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Anakim : 9/9/2020 11:11 pm : link
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I'd be pumped too. Don't blame him for letting emotions get the best of him.



He's a coach, he's supposed to keep it in and be stoic.


Typically, yes. But I think you can let that one side.
RE: RE: RE: What  
Anakim : 9/9/2020 11:12 pm : link
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I'd be pumped too. Don't blame him for letting emotions get the best of him.



He's a