day 1 halfway done. Figured I''d start a thread for not just the Rangers games.
Rangers and Canes were rusty on specials (though CAR looked much better), 1 for 14 combined on the PP. Good intensity though, hard hitting game. I thought Hank was great.
I didn't see any of NYI vs FLA, but the score is about what I'd expect from a Trotz team.
PIT came out like a house on fire, Price stood tall and MTL's two youngsters, Kotkaniemi and Suzuki have the Habs with a 2 - 0 lead. momentum is starting to shift to MTL, but PIT can score quickly. MTL defense is a massive Achilles heel.
Xavier Oulllet (an AHL defenseman) standing next to Crosby.
Pens dominating now.
only need to score more than you allow (captain obvious? lol)
this probably won't end well for the habs.
D really took a hit without Pelech during the regular season. That being said, you can’t bank on winning every game 2-1. Would have loved to have landed Panarin last off-season.
Nice triangle 🔺
yeah, re-joined the team last week
in August.
non-factor the whole game, but OT is his time.
MTL does not have the skill players for OT.
Calder candidate Dominik Kubalik puts up 5 points in his playoff debut, and the b-hawks beat the Oilers 6 - 4.
Drouin also misses the net (actually lost the puck).
Drouin also misses the net (actually lost the puck).
I don't know the rule today. I used to ref 20 years ago. But back then if the ref thought a scoring chance was taken away he had the descretion to call the PS.
yeah, good point, Marchand was actually in a shootout, not a penalty shot.
Just tuning in now. Gotta’ say, it’s nice to see the NBA and the NHL.
only during breaks in play in MTL vs PIT game. Biggest news was scheifele being knocked out with what looked like just an unfortunate awkward knee injury.
headlines/tweets blame Tkachuck, who is a massive agitator, but I don't think he did anything wrong at all, I don't think he even made contact.
Johnny hockey had a nice goal to tie it and then CGY scored again (both CGY goals in the 2nd)
Maurice said the Tkachuk hit was intentional - I didn't think it was at all.
PIT outplayed MTL by far.
1. It's unlikely any of them win the Cup.
2. Going through the four rounds of playoffs is brutal and I think you're a worthy winner if you get through them.
We'll probably see some weird results, but that's how it's always been. I don't think you'll see MTL or CHI win the Cup (sorry pj).
Where was the net camera shot? Don't they have one directly above the line?
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Where was the net camera shot? Don't they have one directly above the line?
yeah, it was legit, insane, but legit.
I think last year they were the best team, but they sort of lucked out when TBL and WAS were beaten in the 1st round.
Not that CAR or CBJ weren't formidable, but neither would have pressed the Bruins as much as TBL or WAS potentially could have. CBJ did take the B's to 6, but CAR was swept. and then CAR swept the NYI and I think the NYI were probably the 3rd team who would have given the B's the toughest matchup.
With re-seeding now after each round, there won't be any bracket breaks.
WPG vs CAL game 2 (great game 1) at 2:30pm on NHLN (CAL leads 1 - 0)
WAS vs TBL (round robin game) at 4pm on NBCSN
DAL vs VEG (round robin game) at 6:30pm on NHLN
MTL vs PIT game 2 at 8pm on NBCSN (MTL leads 1 - 0)
CHI vs EDM game 2 at 10:30 on NHLN (CHI leads 1 - 0)
I wonder if the late switch left the team flat...
Still LVG and PHI as the favorites.
I think last year they were the best team, but they sort of lucked out when TBL and WAS were beaten in the 1st round.
Not that CAR or CBJ weren't formidable, but neither would have pressed the Bruins as much as TBL or WAS potentially could have. CBJ did take the B's to 6, but CAR was swept. and then CAR swept the NYI and I think the NYI were probably the 3rd team who would have given the B's the toughest matchup.
With re-seeding now after each round, there won't be any bracket breaks.
It's more than obvious the Bruins are behind the curve and not quite there in terms of conditioning and chemistry.....it's going to happen to certain teams.
They are a good team but given how they have returned, they have horrible matchup issues with both WASH and TB. In fact, they have only beaten WASH once in like the last 18 meetings or something ridiculous.
Philly was probably the one team they had good odds to beat.
Their best strategy now - besides of course winning - would be to get the team whipped back into shape during round robin and take it from there....fourth seed probably is a real possibility.
They can beat any of the qualifying teams and their toughest matchups (TB, WASH, PHIL) are all in the next round anyway and games are at neutral sites......besides last change, home ice (fans, travel, etc) is out the window.
Jets vs Flames are on now.
Jets missing Schiefele and Patrick Laine. Tall order for them overcome.
but they are leading 1 - 0, down in the series 1 - 0.
even up the series at 1.
I think the arenas look great too. Love the video boards and the tarps were a good idea
Full marks to the NHL
I think the arenas look great too. Love the video boards and the tarps were a good idea
Full marks to the NHL
yeah, I agree, solid job by the NHL.
These teams hate each other. I guess any team with Tom Wilson gets hated on by every other team though.
regular season OT for the round robin games, unlike the play-in games (like MTL vs PIT) which have playoff OT.
Vegas beating DAL 1 - 0 in a West conference round robin game.
Like most New York sports.
Pens 1 - 0. Habs had been taking the play to the Pens the first part of the period.
Drouin turned it over twice on the PP, both bad, once in his own zone.
their zone entry is a dump in.
Like most New York sports.
12% shot at #1 pick? Cut them some slack ... Carolina is a good team, the goalie has been ‘unfit to play’ And they’d been playing good hockey up until the shutdown. It’s disappointing but shit happens. Hopefully Carolina loses next round so we get two decent draft picks
5 on 3 now for half a min
MTL has had almost no scoring chances.
I think the arenas look great too. Love the video boards and the tarps were a good idea
Full marks to the NHL
I'm shocked it looks like they'll pull it off - announced zero positive tests this week. I thought it was unlikely they would pull it off, they deserve a ton of credit.
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Really impressed with the quality of the games. I thought there might be a feeling out period, or a lack of intensity. Hasn't been the case at all and the lack of fans hasn't affected the atmosphere much at all outside of the obvious goal with goal celebrations. Feels like playoff hockey.
I think the arenas look great too. Love the video boards and the tarps were a good idea
Full marks to the NHL
I'm shocked it looks like they'll pull it off - announced zero positive tests this week. I thought it was unlikely they would pull it off, they deserve a ton of credit.
It’s still early. Cautiously optimistic but this isn’t a bubble right?
It helps 8 teams are leaving this week. But there is still risk if one of these cities starts to see a rise in cases
Even the series at 1. game 3 Wednesday night.
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Really impressed with the quality of the games. I thought there might be a feeling out period, or a lack of intensity. Hasn't been the case at all and the lack of fans hasn't affected the atmosphere much at all outside of the obvious goal with goal celebrations. Feels like playoff hockey.
I think the arenas look great too. Love the video boards and the tarps were a good idea
Full marks to the NHL
I'm shocked it looks like they'll pull it off - announced zero positive tests this week. I thought it was unlikely they would pull it off, they deserve a ton of credit.
It’s still early. Cautiously optimistic but this isn’t a bubble right?
It helps 8 teams are leaving this week. But there is still risk if one of these cities starts to see a rise in cases
Yeah, and I get a little worried there might be some complacency and people get lax.
I don't know how the "bubble" apparently works.
It helps 8 teams are leaving this week. But there is still risk if one of these cities starts to see a rise in cases
There’s two bubbles, Toronto and Edmonton.
seems like a long road trip.
seems like a long road trip.
My wife just asked if they were lonely or something. I just laughed. I’m sure they miss going out and all that but they’re playing for the Cup. Hockey’s just different from other sports. Always has been, always will be.
Thanks - I should read up. Is it like the nba when if they leave the ‘bubble’ for any reason they have to quarantine for days and security inside the bubble is off the charts? It certainly helps toronto and edlmonton at this point don’t have general population virus out there like so many American cities but seems like there’s a little more freedom for players to be well ... 25 year old kids... then what the nba has set up.
I could be wrong, like I said I haven’t researched. They’ve certainly been smarter than mlb which has scheduled road trips with multiple days off on those trips for teams. Cards had two days off in Minneapolis last week
And Florida had a lot of time off during preseason games in Atlanta and people are shocked guys got bored? It’s like no one consulted common sense.
Hockey/basketball, you can have guys buckle down for two months to finish the season.
Side note, Connor McDavid is pretty good. Reminds me of watching myself.
Then they always suck ass in the playoffs. Oh, wow. They went on one run and lost to the Kings.
I mean don't ya think they looked lost and slow and didn't look as if they belonged on the same ice as the Hurricanes? It's not as if that was the 2000s Devils defense out there. Skjei never played this hard as a Ranger.
Hey at least the young kids got some "playoff experience".
These other games and teams look fun to watch: Penguins, Blackhawks, Oilers, Golden Knights, Caps, Lighting.
Do the Rangers answer the bell and belong with the above? Nope.
Hockey/basketball, you can have guys buckle down for two months to finish the season.
Side note, Connor McDavid is pretty good. Reminds me of watching myself.
Football will be an 8 or 9 game season. Me thinks.
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it's actually a pretty cool set up. I'm not even sure a local flare up would get in, possible I guess - they're all humans, but I think the controls are solid. And being away from your family sucks for the players but Toronto looks cool.
Thanks - I should read up. Is it like the nba when if they leave the ‘bubble’ for any reason they have to quarantine for days and security inside the bubble is off the charts? It certainly helps toronto and edlmonton at this point don’t have general population virus out there like so many American cities but seems like there’s a little more freedom for players to be well ... 25 year old kids... then what the nba has set up.
I could be wrong, like I said I haven’t researched. They’ve certainly been smarter than mlb which has scheduled road trips with multiple days off on those trips for teams. Cards had two days off in Minneapolis last week
And Florida had a lot of time off during preseason games in Atlanta and people are shocked guys got bored? It’s like no one consulted common sense.
This link outlines it in a consumable manner.
Similar NBA rules I believe for leaving the bubble:
Yes, but only in a limited number of cases, per NHL.com: medical reasons, extenuating circumstances (such as the birth of a child or an illness or death in the family), or a family event such as a wedding. When a player returns to the secure zone, he will be quarantined in his hotel room and then need to test negative at least four consecutive times over a four-day period.
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Big slate of games today:
FLA vs NYI at noon on NBCSN (NYI lead 1 - 0)
ARI vs NSH at 2:30 PM on NHLN (ARI leads 1 - 0)
CBJ vs TOR at 4:00 PM on NBCSN (CBJ leads 1 - 0)
CAL vs WIN at 6:45 PM on NHLN (series tied 1 - 1)
CAR vs NYR at 8:00 PM on NBCSN (CAR leads 2 - 0)*
MIN vs VAN at 10:45 PM on NHLN (MIN leads 1 - 0)
* Potential elimination game
but these past two games have given me some confidence that he *can* be that goalie.
To me, that means the defense did a phenomenal job in game one of assuring the shots Florida managed were very low percentage opportunities, and for all their faults, Florida is a team that can score goals.
So that's pretty great to see.
But that chart also shows Mrazek has been able to take naps back in his own net too so....
To me, that means the defense did a phenomenal job in game one of assuring the shots Florida managed were very low percentage opportunities, and for all their faults, Florida is a team that can score goals.
So that's pretty great to see.
Exactly, a Trotz team hallmark, they don't take a lot of shots, and they try and limit high danger opposition chances (as opposed to shots). It's so smart, a bad shot at the NHL level is almost a turnover or in some cases it is in fact a turnover.
which is why xGa is more meaningful measure than save %.
I'm not a huge analytics guy, but I do strongly believe all shots are not equal and relying on pure shot data isn't very meaningful.
NYI leading FLA 3 - 2 with 17 min left in the third. Good pace, good skill, and mostly good goal tending.
Beauvilier scores on the PP to put the NYI up 2 with under 10 left.
Bob has been keeping Fla in the series but they're hanging him out to dry.
Isles taking care of business in a series they should have
Check out Matheson's contract LOL
Good win. Rebounded from an awful first. They finally adjusted and stopped trying to force the carry in.
Hot streak Eberle would be most welcome on a sniper starved team.
Super fortunate re Barzal. Game over if their one elite player goes down.
This much action daily it must be a moonscape out there.
Something to watch for all the teams. It's a factor
if Beau was consistent in his production he would be an absolute monster. He is so impressive when he's "on".
CBJ vs TOR scoreless halfway through the 1st. Korpisalo the story so far. TOR outshooting CBJ 12 - 4 so far.
His defense did him no favors, but Kuemper.... Yikes
2 in 9 seconds, love hockey with the extra attacker, made the end interesting at least.
Toronto looks snake bit not being able to put one in
Toronto looks snake bit not being able to put one in
Has Korpisalo allowed a goal yet? A game and a half I thought game 1 was a shutout. Right?
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Toronto looks snake bit not being able to put one in
Has Korpisalo allowed a goal yet? A game and a half I thought game 1 was a shutout. Right?
Correct.
Matt Martin has more goals than the entire Leafs team (at this point)
28-9 toronto outshooting CBJ
Leafs looking to tie up the series at 1.
Both goalies in this series have been outstanding so far.
Hope he's ok.
Hope he's ok.
I didn't think it looked that bad, either. But he was down for ~15 minutes. Hope he's okay, as well (obviously).
not sure what the NHL will do, but youth hockey eliminated the handshakes - we had a youth tournament in new hampshire last weekend and after the game instead of shaking hands the kids lined up on their respective blue lines and just basically tapped their sticks on the ice in a show of respect toward their opponent.
I doubt the NHL keeps the handshakes, but being in the bubble and sharing hotels, restaurants and recreational spaces with their rival players probably would make handshakes harmless.
We may find out tonight if the Canes win the first elimination game.
From Maples Leafs PR Twitter account.
He is like an anchor out there.
They'd take a 2 - 1 lead in the series if they avoid a massive collapse.
the Flames could be a sneaky team if they get some momentum. skill, grit, solid D. no one likes playing a team like that.
NSH vs ARI at 2:30 on NHLN, series tied at 1
TBL vs BOS at 4:00 on NBCSN, Bos 0 - 1, TBL 1- 0 in round robin play
COL vs DAL at 6:30 on NHLN, COL 1 - 0, DAL 0 - 1 in round robin play. COL may have something to say about my VAN comment
PIT vs MON at 8:00 on NBCSN, series tied at 1
EDM vs CHI at 10:30 on NBCSN, series tied at 1
0-0 after 1
0-0 after 1
Bobrovsky forced Pageau into the non-shot on the 2 on 1, he's a good goalie but they drafted Spencer Knight #13 overall so why sign Bob to a 10-year deal?
anyway, I thought 1st period had good pace and NYI did enough to thwart the FLA 1st line skill.
FLA just scored on the PP, 1 - 0
the Islanders just need to stay out of the box. FLA is one line.
I thought this series would be boring, but it's not.
Phil Kessel still has some silky mitts, and I still can't stand him.
Coyotes being outshot 17 - 3.
I thought this series would be boring, but it's not.
Phil Kessel still has some silky mitts, and I still can't stand him.
Coyotes being outshot 17 - 3.
"Lots of chances."
Nice back check set the whole play up.
good action so far in this game as you'd expect. a lot of talent on the ice.
2 - 0 TBL
as much as I hate Krug, I give him credit for dropping the gloves to try and spark his team.
getting edgy now. good hockey.
B's were down 2 and tied it, now in danger of going 0 - 2 with a min left.
I'll take it, but it sucks if you're the Bruins.
Good start to the game so far.
MTL good goal and now a PP.
Avs now 2 - 0, Stars 0 - 2.
Avs will be tough.
Makar with a blast on the PP for the 1st goal.
I think Mete's days are numbered. When you're supposedly a puck mover speed guy and you get beat in a foot race, you aren't really a puck mover.
Pens lead 3 - 2 halfway through the game
4 min left in the 2nd.
Pens D are as bad as the Habs
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nope, cross bar
I thought it was in real time and was wondering why the ref didn’t blow the whistle lol
like the pace of this game. it's a track meet. no D. lol.
he is so inconsistent, he's Hasek one day then can't stop a beach ball the next.
but he has 2 rings.
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he is so inconsistent, he's Hasek one day then can't stop a beach ball the next.
but he has 2 rings.
And Lundqvist and Price have zero. We don’t deserve this.
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he is so inconsistent, he's Hasek one day then can't stop a beach ball the next.
but he has 2 rings.
And Lundqvist and Price have zero. We don’t deserve this.
Well they didn't play behind Crosby and Malkin either.
but I agree.
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he is so inconsistent, he's Hasek one day then can't stop a beach ball the next.
but he has 2 rings.
And Lundqvist and Price have zero. We don’t deserve this.
Well they didn't play behind Crosby and Malkin either.
but I agree.
True. This weird draft lottery had me thinking of 05. Rangers had the same number of ping pong balls as the Penguins, IIRC. Sucks.
9 or 10 overall wouldn’t be shabby in this draft (with Montreal chicago and Arizona potentially not in this lottery)
them or the Rangers. The Rangers got pretty fortunate to get Kakko up from 6 (?)
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Doesn't it feel like they'll end up with Lafreniere? That fucking horseshoe organization. It'll be like the Patriots winding up with Trevor Lawrence.
them or the Rangers. The Rangers got pretty fortunate to get Kakko up from 6 (?)
Nice try. Rangers and Kakko haven’t done a thing yet with that. Loads of teams over the years have jumped a few spots up the draft - like Edmonton and NJ, for example.
Those Pittsburgh jumps landed them 3 cups
He's flopping around like a fish.
And he has 2 rings.
Draisaitl's 2nd of the game ties it at 2.
MATCHUP
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VAN
WEST QUALIFYING - GAME 3, Series tied 1-1
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MIN
2:30 PM
NHL
WSH
EAST QUALIFYING ROUND ROBIN
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PHI
4:00 PM
NBCSN
VGS
WEST QUALIFYING ROUND ROBIN
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STL
6:30 PM
NHL
TOR
EAST QUALIFYING - GAME 3, Series tied 1-1
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CBJ
8:00 PM
NBCSN
CGY
WEST QUALIFYING - GAME 4, CGY Lead series 2-1
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WPG
10:30 PM
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Doesn't it feel like they'll end up with Lafreniere? That fucking horseshoe organization. It'll be like the Patriots winding up with Trevor Lawrence.
them or the Rangers. The Rangers got pretty fortunate to get Kakko up from 6 (?)
Once. Once! We were only lucky in the Lottery once.
I understand Rangers fans bitterness b/c the Pens are a rival and the Rangers were one of the other 3 teams, and Crosby's Penguins have won 3 cups, but they had the same chance at Crosby as three other teams. And the league would have been better off overall if Crosby wound up in NY.
Unless you think it was fixed there wasn't much ping pong ball luck and it doesn't make much sense for the league to fix it for PIT and pin the hopes of Crosby pulling the team out of a financial mess.
And Staal was only one pick behind Kopitar.
And from what I have observed and read not a ton of difference between 9 and 15. Maybe 9 and 13, but most people have players 4 - 15 or so interchangeable.
I don't think it was fixed. It's pure luck. The Penguins are a lucky fucking organization. From Lemieux and Jagr to Crosby and Malkin.
And from what I have observed and read not a ton of difference between 9 and 15. Maybe 9 and 13, but most people have players 4 - 15 or so interchangeable.
So I looked for this information and couldnt find... the Rangers might pick 15th? Common sense would dictate that the 8 teams would simply draw evenly for that #1 slot and then after that you pick by order of standings, much as they did for the worst 7 teams (e.g., Detroit wasnt at risk to pick 7th)... thats not the case??
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this year. #1 or somewhere between 9 and 15.
And from what I have observed and read not a ton of difference between 9 and 15. Maybe 9 and 13, but most people have players 4 - 15 or so interchangeable.
So I looked for this information and couldnt find... the Rangers might pick 15th? Common sense would dictate that the 8 teams would simply draw evenly for that #1 slot and then after that you pick by order of standings, much as they did for the worst 7 teams (e.g., Detroit wasnt at risk to pick 7th)... thats not the case??
I believe the Rangers draft pick ranges from 9-14 (assuming they don't win the #1 overall pick). We should be rooting for the Canadiens (over Yinz), Blackhawks (over Oilers), Wild (over Canucks), and Coyotes (over Predators)
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this year. #1 or somewhere between 9 and 15.
And from what I have observed and read not a ton of difference between 9 and 15. Maybe 9 and 13, but most people have players 4 - 15 or so interchangeable.
So I looked for this information and couldnt find... the Rangers might pick 15th? Common sense would dictate that the 8 teams would simply draw evenly for that #1 slot and then after that you pick by order of standings, much as they did for the worst 7 teams (e.g., Detroit wasnt at risk to pick 7th)... thats not the case??
I believe the Rangers draft pick ranges from 9-14 (assuming they don't win the #1 overall pick). We should be rooting for the Canadiens (over Yinz), Blackhawks (over Oilers), Wild (over Canucks), and Coyotes (over Predators)
This guy has a good chart, MAB
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As a Rangers fan, would be great if MTL, ARZ and CHI can close out their series... we'd move up to #11 at worst. As a hockey fan, i think its just plain absurd that MTL and CHI were given a best of 5 chance to amend what had been pretty horrendous 70 game regular seasons for them....
the Pens got Guentzel back, that should have been consolation enough for them playing one of the worst teams in the league.
CHI has a better shot to get there though. The West is wide open, some good teams - right now my favorites would be COL and CAL, but CHI has a shot to come out of the west because no one has a complete team IMO.
the Pens got Guentzel back, that should have been consolation enough for them playing one of the worst teams in the league.
CHI has a better shot to get there though. The West is wide open, some good teams - right now my favorites would be COL and CAL, but CHI has a shot to come out of the west because no one has a complete team IMO.
The Pens are the better team outside of the goalie, but the Habs have impressed.
Gallagher is much better than I remember.
Other than Price the Canadiens best players have been Suzuki, Kotkaniemi and Weber.
and it's good to see Kotkaniemi have a solid return after a disappointing year.
Letang is a shell of his former self, Dumoulin is mediocre as always, Jack Johnson is cooked, Pettersson is bad, Schultz surprises me, he had a couple good years, I'm surprised if he's healthy he's this bad.
Their best D is John Marino.
Knights need a PP QB and a RHD badly. They have no one on that side. Deangelo is obviously one of the best offensive defensemen in the NHL.
Rangers need a 2C and would get a young prospect in Glass or Krebs. Rangers were really high on Glass in the 2017 Draft. Glass had a banged-up rookie season, though, so I'd prefer Krebs.
I will take a "Glass" on this team any way we can get one...
Letang is a shell of his former self, Dumoulin is mediocre as always, Jack Johnson is cooked, Pettersson is bad, Schultz surprises me, he had a couple good years, I'm surprised if he's healthy he's this bad.
Their best D is John Marino.
Murray was trash last night, too.
This is far from a playoff team.
None of us knows the truth, but I always thought Suzuki was a better prospect than Glass, so I doubt that's true, but those are the rumors.
Granted, MTL also got a 2nd round pick and Tomas Tatar from LVG, not just Suzuki, but I don't know if TDA gets it done for Glass. I prefer Krebs though even though he's smaller. Such a strong skater.
Some headhunting going on...
They just got done showing Fiala almost die and I felt a little bit bad for him, but what a douche bag.
This game is great, these teams seem to hate each other.
27 seconds left.
3 min left in the 2nd and shots are 11 to 10.
I tuned in just in time to see the Sanheim goal - pretty sweet move
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It is a bit. The biggest knock on him as a Ranger was his inconsistency. Well, he found out this season.
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No surprise.
It is a bit. The biggest knock on him as a Ranger was his inconsistency. Well, he found out this season.
*it
And this is just me personally, nothing I dislike more than a 6' 5" 220 pound finesse player.
It's like wasting a gift from god.
no idea if that has changed in PHI
It feels as if the Rangers were eliminated from the competition two weeks ago. Calgary shuts out Winnipeg 4-0, win qualifying round series.
Congratulations to former New York Rangers goalie, Cam Talbot.
Yikes. Calgary outscored Winnipeg 16-6 in the series. I'm going to keep my eye on Calgary, going ahead and they seem to be a tough out.
I still have the scumbag Philadelphia Flyers winning this whole thing.
It feels as if the Rangers were eliminated from the competition two weeks ago. Calgary shuts out Winnipeg 4-0, win qualifying round series.
Congratulations to former New York Rangers goalie, Cam Talbot.
Yikes. Calgary outscored Winnipeg 16-6 in the series. I'm going to keep my eye on Calgary, going ahead and they seem to be a tough out.
I still have the scumbag Philadelphia Flyers winning this whole thing.
We lost first so we deserve the #1 pick.
ARI can close out NSH at 2:30 on NHLN
MTL can close out PIT at 4:00 on NBCSN
CHI can close out EMD at 6:45 on NBCSN
CBJ can close out TOR at 8:00 on NHLN
VAN can close out MIN at 10:45 on NBCSN
"the Flames could be a sneaky team if they get some momentum. skill, grit, solid D. no one likes playing a team like that."
Flames and Av's my two WC favorites. LVG would be 3rd.
panthers - 0
panthers - 0
He's having a great series. If he's as streaky as NYI fans say, hope he's superstitious too and keeps doing what he's doing.
Because if Ekblad, Huberdeau, and Barkov weren't enough. Hell, they may be giving the Oilers a run for their money.
Their D was really bad. The Matheson and Bob contracts are going to be really hard to move to let them try to utilize the cap effectively. I think the 2 of them are taking 15 mil/year for the next 6 years
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Because if Ekblad, Huberdeau, and Barkov weren't enough. Hell, they may be giving the Oilers a run for their money.
*as if
I hope Columbus eliminates Toronto tonight as well
The Leafs/Coyotes/Panthers are all great examples of the limitations of elite talent and importance of depth.
The Leafs/Coyotes/Panthers are all great examples of the limitations of elite talent and importance of depth.
the Leafs more than the others. TOR has $33M tied up in Tavares, Matthews, and Marner.
I don't think anyone in the league is as top heavy as TOR.
FLA basically has that $33M spread out over their top 5 or 6.
Huge difference. Of course TOR top 3 are awesome, but when your bottom 6 is trash and your D is brutal your lack of depth will lose games for you - as you indicated.
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The Leafs/Coyotes/Panthers are all great examples of the limitations of elite talent and importance of depth.
the Leafs more than the others. TOR has $33M tied up in Tavares, Matthews, and Marner.
I don't think anyone in the league is as top heavy as TOR.
FLA basically has that $33M spread out over their top 5 or 6.
Huge difference. Of course TOR top 3 are awesome, but when your bottom 6 is trash and your D is brutal your lack of depth will lose games for you - as you indicated.
Good point. I think literally everyone on earth would have signed Tavares, but you can make an argument you needed to spread that out across the roster instead.
2 - 2 after 2. Good game so far.
the Pens had better chance shorthanded than the habs did on the PP.
Such a momentum shift.
the Predators are in the Lafreniere sweepstakes.
the Predators are in the Lafreniere sweepstakes.
So what is everyone expecting with this guy?
Or is he going to be a Alexandre Daigle?
That's not in the Rangers best interest, Brettski
You are a smart fucking cookie 🍪
Like to think I know a little something about the NHL, but MTL 3 games to 1 over the Pens with both teams healthy.. I DID NOT see this coming. Not that im disappointed, but surprised. Pens just looked lifeless to me.
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Like to think I know a little something about the NHL, but MTL 3 games to 1 over the Pens with both teams healthy.. I DID NOT see this coming. Not that im disappointed, but surprised. Pens just looked lifeless to me.
I don't think anyone saw it coming...but it was the 5 vs. 12 matchup so the upset was meant to be. :D
And more importantly, the Rangers. We need Blue Jackets to knock off the Maple Leafs; Blackhawks to knock off the Oilers; and Wild to stay alive against the 'Nuckers.
But seriously, congrats. Good luck in the playoffs.
REALLY? Wow. I wonder what they knew.
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But the oddsmakers were all over this. MTL was favored
REALLY? Wow. I wonder what they knew.
No idea. Maybe that the Pens D was brutal and Carey Price was healthy and rested.
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But the oddsmakers were all over this. MTL was favored
REALLY? Wow. I wonder what they knew.
You don't remember Pittsburgh was going downhill before the "pause"? They lost 6 in a row, won 3 out of 11.
They got no depth and they really looked like shit prior to this series.
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But the oddsmakers were all over this. MTL was favored
REALLY? Wow. I wonder what they knew.
You don't remember Pittsburgh was going downhill before the "pause"? They lost 6 in a row, won 3 out of 11.
They got no depth and they really looked like shit prior to this series.
Nope, didn't remember that. I don't think the Canadiens expected to be in the postseason. They seemed to be in a bit of a rebuild when they traded away Ilya Kovachuk, Marco Scandella and Nate Thompson
Oilers score. No Tyler Ennis.
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REALLY? Wow. I wonder what they knew.
You don't remember Pittsburgh was going downhill before the "pause"? They lost 6 in a row, won 3 out of 11.
They got no depth and they really looked like shit prior to this series.
Islanders were playing their worst hockey of the season before the break. Rangers were going on a nice run before the break. What happened before the break didn't really mean much
Come on. You knew the Rangers would be a disappointment for the 79th year in a row.
Actually, Outside of Crosby and Malkin in certain moments, everyone played like shit. That's what's fun about the NHL playoffs. NUKED.
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the Predators are in the Lafreniere sweepstakes.
So what is everyone expecting with this guy?
Or is he going to be a Alexandre Daigle?
Nothing is guaranteed with the NHL draft, but Lafreniere is probably the best rated #1 overall pick since McDavid.
3 - 2 CHI, almost halfway through the 3rd
Koskinen started to go to the bench and then went back in the net but the extra skater already went on.
Oilers going down.
24th and 23rd teams in the tournament likely to advance.
no Crosby
no Malkin
I don't think this is what the NHL wanted by expanding the field.
but I'll take it.
and VAN has so much skill.
This is entertaining shit!
what a disaster for CBJ
MIN is entered in the Lafreniere sweepstakes
Seth Jones is probably my favorite non-Habs player, but he needs Werenski to make the best D pair in the league.
@ChartingHockey
Reality vs expectation
MTL has beaten expectation by ~8 goals. They've scored ~1 more goal than expected and Price saved 7 goals that should've been. That's how you pull off an upset.
no Crosby
no Malkin
I don't think this is what the NHL wanted by expanding the field.
but I'll take it.
When Pittsburgh wins the lottery NHL will still be happy.
No idea why fans think the NHL wants PIT to be good. They don't want any team to be in dire financial straits - it's bad for the league, but at the end of the day they don't give a shit if PIT relocates to the sun belt, they care about the original 6 teams and Canadian teams more.
not playoff OT
Boston/Washington - Round robin
Dallas/St. Louis - Round robin
Columbus/Toronto - Game 5
I am starting to warm on the Philly to the finals opinions some on here had.
And moneypuck also had them as the EC favorite (in fact I believe as cup favorites).
I still think Boston gets their head out of their ass, but they made it harder for themselves.
B's VS Canes
Whoever wins CBJ/Leafs lucks out, they'll play Tampa without Stamkos or Hedman.
They play CAR now instead of MTL. Massive difference in quality of team.
If they won today they would have played NYI so I'm not sure this game mattered too much since both CAR and NYI are tough teams except it's not brackets, it's re-seeding so being #4 could hurt down the road too.
Blues lose to Stars in a SO.
Both 1st place teams wind up 4th.
Last game of the preliminary round coming up in 90 min and decides who goes home, CBJ or TOR.
I need to see how he missed that.
Still down 1 - 0 with 3 and a half left in the 2nd, but the leafs are controlling the play and dominating zone time.
I need to see how he missed that.
Was it a Rick Nash 2014 type of miss?
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missed an empty net that would have tied it.
I need to see how he missed that.
Was it a Rick Nash 2014 type of miss?
Not quite the same. Nash went off a D's stick, Tavares just missed the net cleanly - looked like he hit a post.
Andersen can't let that in.
Andersen can't let that in.
I know his brother is a pretty good prospect in the upcoming Draft. Is he speedy like his brother?
you must be new to this series, lol.
nothing is put away. ever.
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you must be new to this series, lol.
nothing is put away. ever.
I'm well aware, especially after last game
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been all over the ice tonight. Rookie making the most of Atkinson issue.
Andersen can't let that in.
I know his brother is a pretty good prospect in the upcoming Draft. Is he speedy like his brother?
Jean-Luc. I don't think he's as good a prospect, hard for me to know since for me I mostly see them in the international tournaments and they were mostly canceled.
Except the Hlinka where Jean-Luc was awesome. He is fast, not sure he's as fast as Liam though. That Canada team was stacked. Byfield, Perfetti, Drysdale, Lapierre, etc.
Granted the D was preventing it from being a total tap in, but you expect an NHL player to hit this empty net - let alone one as much as star as Tavares.
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CBJ...again.
The Leafs are in the Lafreniere sweepstakes.
CBJ...again.
.... With two probable hall of famers out of the lineup
One of:
WIN
FLA
MIN
NYR
PIT
EDM
TOR
NSH
will pick Alexis Lafreniere
The teams who do not win will be slotted from 9 to 15 in reverse order of their winning percentage.
One of:
WIN
FLA
MIN
NYR
PIT
EDM
TOR
NSH
will pick Alexis Lafreniere
The teams who do not win will be slotted from 9 to 15 in reverse order of their winning percentage.
I will be shocked if it's not Pitt or the rangers
Bruins over Hurricanes
Capitals over Islanders
Blue Jackets over Lightning (I think not having Hedman and Stamkos will really hurt)
AND the ultimate upset...Canadiens over Flyers in an absolute shocker
West:
Flames over Stars
Huge upset: Blackhawks over Golden Knights
Blues over Canucks
And one more final upset: Coyotes over Avalanche
Yep, I'm going with both 12 seeds upsetting the #1 seeds
The Leafs are in the Lafreniere sweepstakes.
Doesn’t Carolina now own this pick?
One of:
WIN
FLA
MIN
NYR
PIT
EDM
TOR
NSH
will pick Alexis Lafreniere
The teams who do not win will be slotted from 9 to 15 in reverse order of their winning percentage.
Hey, maybe the Senators trade 3 + 5 for the right to pick Lafreniere...:)
Or the Rangers are their usual "smartest people in the room" selves and take Byfield over Laf.
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The Leafs are in the Lafreniere sweepstakes.
Doesn’t Carolina now own this pick?
It's top-10 protected
One of:
WIN
FLA
MIN
NYR
PIT
EDM
TOR
NSH
will pick Alexis Lafreniere
The teams who do not win will be slotted from 9 to 15 in reverse order of their winning percentage.
If the Rangers don't win the Lottery, at least let the Wild, Predators or Jets win. Florida has picked top-5 numerous times. Oilers have picked top-3 many times. Fuck the Maple Leafs and a huge fuck you to the Penguins.
19 - Never
If EDM could get 3 and 5 and have OTT take back James Neal it could be a good trade for both teams (better for EDM IMO).
OTT can stay at 3 and 5 and get Stutzle or Byfield at 3 and Drysdale or Perfetti at 5. Maybe they view that combo as better than Lafreniere - not to mention James Neals cap damage.
Hockey Epic
@Hockey_Epic
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The #Leafs last 15 years :
Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Lost 1st round
Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Missed playoffs
Lost 1st round
Lost 1st round
Lost 1st round
Lost Play-In
They'll pick 10th if the Jets win the Lottery
They'll pick 11th if neither scenario happens
They'll pick 10th if the Jets win the Lottery
They'll pick 11th if neither scenario happens
*or Wild. If the Jets or Wild win the Lottery tomorrow, the Rangers pick 10th.
"shit happens" (when asked about the lost 3 goal lead) and Foudy "that kid has balls"
lol.
Tuesday 8/11
CBJ (E7) vs TBL (E2) 3:00pm
CAL (W6) vs DAL (W3) 5:30pm
CAR (E5) vs BOS (E4) 8:00pm
CHI (W8) vs LVG (W1) 10:30pm
Wednesday 8/12
NYI (E6) vs WAS (E3) 3:00pm
ARI (W7) vs COL (W2) 5:30pm
MTL (E8) vs PHI (E1) 8:00pm
VAN (W5) vs STL (W4) 10:30pm
Tuesday 8/11
CBJ (E7) vs TBL (E2) 3:00pm
CAL (W6) vs DAL (W3) 5:30pm
CAR (E5) vs BOS (E4) 8:00pm
CHI (W8) vs LVG (W1) 10:30pm
Wednesday 8/12
NYI (E6) vs WAS (E3) 3:00pm
ARI (W7) vs COL (W2) 5:30pm
MTL (E8) vs PHI (E1) 8:00pm
VAN (W5) vs STL (W4) 10:30pm
- CBJ is going to give TB fits. CBJ wins in 6.
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Tuesday 8/11
CBJ (E7) vs TBL (E2) 3:00pm
CAL (W6) vs DAL (W3) 5:30pm
CAR (E5) vs BOS (E4) 8:00pm
CHI (W8) vs LVG (W1) 10:30pm
Wednesday 8/12
NYI (E6) vs WAS (E3) 3:00pm
ARI (W7) vs COL (W2) 5:30pm
MTL (E8) vs PHI (E1) 8:00pm
VAN (W5) vs STL (W4) 10:30pm
- CBJ is going to give TB fits. CBJ wins in 6.
6th overtime period?
I lived in DC at the time and one of my buddies was one of the few die hard Caps fans and wanted to go.
It went on so long I was hung over already by the time it ended because they stopped selling beer like 3 hours before the end
Lemieux ejected out early after beating the snot out of Todd Krygier.
Peter Nedved won it. A lot of talent on that ice that game - mostly on the Pens.
Lemieux, Jagr, Francis, Nedved, Zubov, Bondra, Gonchar, Hunter, Juneau.
this is brutal for the players, but so awesome.
2020 playoffs in 2020 fashion start with an instant classic.
The commentary for the 5OT game was dog shit. They were whining about the games being too long, saying there should be shootouts and explaining to us how the players might be tired.
Excellent observations.
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seth can you tell us what you drink to stay hydrated during a game like that?
I hope the Isles game isn't pushed back too much
Headed to 2nd OT
Bruins start with a little left on the PP
4-2 isles
Caps totally collapsed in 3rd. Swiss cheese in their own end and lazy giveaways. They'll be tighter Friday.
I wonder if there's a deal to be made with the Rangers. If Montreal is devaluing Domi, Rangers could try to trade for him and use him as their 2C.
CBJ wins 3-1 to even series.
I wonder if there's a deal to be made with the Rangers. If Montreal is devaluing Domi, Rangers could try to trade for him and use him as their 2C.
Domi missed all the preparation and practices. He was not going to play due to his health issues (diabetes - like Kakko). He's not a 4th liner. Julien says it's to create balanced lines, but that's lip service. He wants to stay with the lines who practiced together.
Maybe with Julien out Muller will move Domi and Kotkaniemi up in the lineup.
Krejci with a PP goal (on a soft call IMO) has the B's up 1-0
2 - 1 Canes. 3 left in the second.
If Brind'amour thought the NHL was a joke after last game he's got to be going insane right now.
What doesn't make sense is if McCauley waives off the goal (and he did so before it went in) it would have to be a penalty, no?
Isn't goalie interference a penalty?
Again.
12 min left in the 3rd.
What do you think of the Hurricanes goalie strategy? I think it’s a bit weird.
What do you think of the Hurricanes goalie strategy? I think it’s a bit weird.
CAR looks like they just flat ran into a wall and have zero energy. I don't think much of Mrazek (compared with Reimer), but yeah, no idea what Brind'amour is doing with his goalies.
Actually, most are really good series so far.
Many future Norris trophies in his future.
with Makar and Hughes, Heiskanen seems to go unnoticed but I think i'd take him over both of them.
two Heiskanen goals has the Stars up 3 - 1 over the Flames almost halfway through the 2nd.
CAL comes back with 2 3rd period goals to tie the game at 4, and then DAL scores late to win it.
And Jamie Oleksiak - a most unlikely source for the GW.
MTL vs PHI 3pm on NBCSN (PHI leads 1 - 0)
VAN vs STL 6:30 on NHLN (VAN leads 1 - 0)
NYI vs WAS 8:00 on NBCSN (NYI leads 1 - 0)
DAL vs CAL 10:30 on NBCSN (tied 1 - 1)
PHI and LVG the only teams remaining who haven't lost since the restart (I believe).
I like his honesty.
I like his honesty.
Yes, I too like when players speak candidly, but he also said after they went winless in the round robin that it was time for real hockey now that "whatever that was called is over" so seems a little bit of excuse making.
I thought BOS played well, but CAR is a tough team. Solid at the blue line (better than solid actually), skilled up front. I felt like goalie was their Achilles heel, but the D has helped cover up the weakness and have to give Mrazek and Reimer credit so far, nothing going in that shouldn't go in.
Habs up 2 - 0, under 7 left in the 1st.
Maybe losing Julien breathed some life into the Habs.
Hope they don't hit a wall, this PHI team is very talented and can score quickly.
It's almost like a game in Vegas how unprepared PHI was for this start.
Phantom holding call on PHI so MTL on the PP to start the 2nd for 1:53.
entertaining game (watched it in between Habs game)
Only major change I've seen between Julien and Muller.
Still 3 - 0, 11:29 left in the second.
Julien is going to look really bad if the Habs hold on.
Domi is all over the ice.
very entertaining game.
MTL up 4 - 0.
Carter Hart out.
Domi the only one to the box.
No need for that.
very entertaining game.
Really good game, watched it while...working. 75% Game 25% work:). Great pace by both teams all game. I knew AZ would come out guns blazing after dropping game 1 but even with that, they surprised me...not sure whether they can take it to a higher level than they showed today. Guess we will see.
very entertaining game.
Agree. Ludicrous speed in that game. Fun to watch.
Nice showing for MTL, even in the loss game 1, they're showing they can play with anyone.
Vigneault calls out Hayes, Giroux, Voracek, etc (not by name), and as I mentioned earlier - this is the Flyers first loss since return to play.
@reporterchris
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Alain Vigneault didn't like that Kirk Muller put his No. 1 power play on the ice late in the game: "We had embarassed ourselves enough. I'm not sure we needed to be embarassed more."
Adds that he'll be sure to point that out to his players.
You are reaching for bulletin board material. The habs were one of two teams who did not score a PP goal in the first round and moved on.
love the Canucks skill. they have a sneaky good team, young core.
2 - 1 VAN after 2.
In the other current game, Ovie puts the Caps on the board first. Under 8 left in the first.
Lead down to 1 with 8 and a half left.
This is a physical game.
Refs looking at itm but I don't think it was a high stick
Zibanejad may speak 5 languages. I know he's fluent in English, Swedish Finnish and Farsi. There may be another.
VAN up 2 - 0 in the series.
VAN up 2 - 0 in the series.
5 hole. I totally forgot to switch back to OT.
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VAN up 2 - 0 in the series.
5 hole. I totally forgot to switch back to OT.
what channel are you watching? I'm on NBCSN and they switched it automatically.
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VAN up 2 - 0 in the series.
5 hole. I totally forgot to switch back to OT.
what channel are you watching? I'm on NBCSN and they switched it automatically.
MSG, no idea why tbh, I started over NBCSN.
25 year old team captain.
I can see the similarities with Messier in style, if not yet substance.
25 year old team captain.
I can see the similarities with Messier in style, if not yet substance.
I‘m sure Canuck fans would curse my name for the mere mention of such a comparison. Forgot about how much they hate Mess out there.
It's like a clinic.
pays off with a goal pushing the lead to 2.
Best way to keep your opponent from scoring...keep the puck in the offensive zone. Such an impressive cycle/effort. I think the Islanders even changed lines and kept possession.
It seems like the more the Caps try to play a chippy game the more it plays into the Islanders type of a game.
I think the "best 4th line in hockey" is pretty much washed, but they were great tonight.
Brock has been reborn hard under trotz. Went from being a streaky scorer with a great wrist shot to a really solid 2 way center.
If the Isles had even a middle of the pack PP they'd be a legit contender.
just saw the box score, Pageau was 17-6 on FO's. That trade really worked out.
fast forward throw the Blues Canucks game. It was 2-1 before I saw a goal scored.
Probably the right call, he didn't play badly, and I don't think the loss to CAR Thursday (or the round robin results) are on him, but clearly his head was not in it and he said he wasn't in shape.
Not much drop off to Halak IMO.
They lead 2-1 over DAL.
COL vs ARI at 3:00 PM on CNBC (?), Avs up 2 - 0
TBL vs CBJ at 7:30 PM on NBCSN, series tied at 1
LVG vs CHI at 8:00 PM on NBC, vegas up 2 - 0
Other than that, just solid goaltending, good period.
Other than that, just solid goaltending, good period.
I missed the play you’re talking about, but the Canes have been on the wrong side of every single toss-up call.
Didn't see any of this game, I don't have that channel and didn't feel like streaming - I had too much work to do.
TBL vs CBJ coming up at 7:30
Dimitri Filipovic
@DimFilipovic
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That 2nd period by the Tampa Bay Lightning was complete and utter domination..
•Shot attempts 37-7
•Shots on goal 16-4
•High danger chances 7-0
LVG up on CHI 2 - 0, can go up 3 - 0
CHI cuts the lead to 1. 2 - 1 13 left in the 3rd.
DAL vs CAL at 02:00pm on CNBC, CAL leads 2 - 1
LVG vs CHI at 06:30pm on NBCSN, LVG leads 3 - 0
MTL vs PHI at 08:00pm on NBC, tied 1 - 1
VAN vs STL at 10:30pm on NBCSN, VAN leads 2 - 0
Another grate slate of games. we're all going to be spoiled after this year when they go back to the old way of travel days and milking the playoffs.
good point.
DAL vs CAL at 02:00pm on CNBC, CAL leads 2 - 1
LVG vs CHI at 06:30pm on NBCSN, LVG leads 3 - 0
MTL vs PHI at 08:00pm on NBC, tied 1 - 1
VAN vs STL at 10:30pm on NBCSN, VAN leads 2 - 0
"Moving forward"
NY Islanders win today and series, probably sweep
Colorado wins this series
Vegas wins in 6
Philly wins series in 6 or 7
Vancouver, what the fuck? Up 2-0 on the defending champions? Canucks win in 5.
@RealJackEdwards
What NBC hasn’t shown yet, regarding the unfortunate injury to Svechnikov: the Carolina wing playing hobby-horse, riding Chara on the back apron of the goal. You poke the bear, you take your chances. No one wanted to see Svechnikov hurt, but he bit off more than he could chew.
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Which it seems like the Caps will need the way the NYI are playing.
Nice deadline acquisition.
1 - 0 NYI
Which it seems like the Caps will need the way the NYI are playing.
I thought Samsonov was hurt
Which it seems like the Caps will need the way the NYI are playing.
samsonov didnt go to bubble cause he got hurt, is he back?
On the season (and in the playoffs so far):
JGP was 56% (59% playoffs so far)
Czikas was 54% (37% playoffs so far)
Nelson was 52% (52% playoffs so far)
Barzal/Lee were sub 45% (Barzal is 57% in the playoffs so far)
In the regular season Brassard was their 4th C at 55% so the JGP pickup really stacked some depth in the FO circle.
Staple had an interview with Lubo Visnovsky yesterday and I rewatched the 2015 hit for the first time in a while - anyone on the Caps side calling the Lee hit "predatory" is a hypocrite of the highest order.
Wilson is probably the dirtiest player in the league, but that hit by Lee on Backstrom was suspension worthy IMO.
Wilson is probably the dirtiest player in the league, but that hit by Lee on Backstrom was suspension worthy IMO.
I disagree - penalty worthy of course. Textbook interference bc the puck wasn't there. But the hit was not dirty hit and would not have been penalized if the puck had been there. It was not to the head, he didn't leave his feet, and he kept his arms and stick down. The hit itself was a clean hit though the play wasn't (as is the case with any penalty).
Calling it dangerous is fine, it's playoff hockey. Hard hits are part of the playoffs same as hard fouls are part of the playoffs in basketball and sometimes it's dangerous. There were lots of dangerous hits in SF January 2012. Assigning a motive to injure when you're coaching Tom Wilson is the hypocrisy.
Backstrom was defenseless, he was not expecting the hit and Lee had time to pull off and instead lead into him. Half the penalties in hockey wouldn't be penalties if the puck was there, that's a weird way to try and defend the hit.
It's exactly the type of hit they're trying to get out of hockey - at all levels. In my last coaching clinic (last September) the head of USA hockey said hits like that (blind side hits to unexpectant recipients) would be ejections at the lower levels to change behavior and encourage players to only hit to separate someone from the puck.
I don't like to ever try and project intent, so I won't but if that was Wilson who gave the hit with his history, a suspension would have been likely, though with the playoffs you never know, the league is inconsistent and sometimes hesitant to suspend players in the playoffs.
IMO that was a dirty hit, and Lee should have gotten a game.
whether the hit itself deserved a 1 game suspension is a separate and debatable either way and honestly all I'd argue there is it should get whatever punishment other hits like it from players without a track record of discipline issues have received.
WAS really playing for their lives in the 3rd, see how they come out. If they come out fast, and NYI weather the storm it could be over.
I get it's easy to get the hands, but if you don't you don't. Sometimes the effort to prevent injuries changes the game too much IMO.
If you want to discourage behavior, make the slash on the hands a major.
I love the story, so I hate to question AV's motives, but he's a wily veteran coach. Publicly calling out Muller for the PP1 unit and now this, he's trying to get the stink and embarrassment of last game off his team and turn it into revenge/inspiration.
Well done AV.
Good period, both goalies solid. Not a ton of room in the middle of the ice.
On that Beauvilier play near the end of the period absolutely, but I think the puck was bouncing.
In typical Trotz team style, there just hasn't been a ton of chances. Not many odd man rushes (either way).
The Trotz Isles are very cognizant of quality over quantity. Low danger throw it at the net stuff is often equivalent to a turnover.
It's part of the reason why certain shot based fancy stats don't favor them. They are dominant in high danger chances for. Something like 72% in the series so far.
CAL up 2 - 1 in that series.
I heard the same from Bruins Joakim Nordstrom.
It is kind of cool, for a short period of time. If you don't have a family I guess.
Gotta think that's a back breaker for Washington. Not just that they lost but that the Isles again controlled the better of the game.
Natural stat trick had the isles at:
57% corsi (even when they win they usually lose here)
69% high danger chances
70% expected goals for
Pretty dominant effort against what should have been a more desperate team.
Stars took a 1 - 0 lead into the 2nd. Then Flames tied, it, Stars re-took the lead, Flames tied it - all within about 3 min.
tied at 2 with 13 min left in the 2nd.
Watching Stars vs Flames now.
Looked like a soft call.
I’m disappointed in the Caps, but I’m not as upset as I’d normally be since it’s Trotz doing it to them. Trotz will always be one of my guys.
Radulov got lazy (sounds like a movie I've seen before as a Habs fan).
Empty net now for the Stars down 1. A minute left.
What a game.
great game.
outshooting CHI 36 - 15 end of 2, but down 2 - 1.
trying to close out the series.
Now PHI to the PP
In Edmonton, CHI still clinging to the 1 goal lead and their playoff lives. 5 min left and being outshot 43 to 21, it doesn't always indicate being dominated, but from when I've watched they absolutely are.
too big a hole for CHI to crawl out of down 3 - 1 now, but better than losing.
PHI still up, 1 - 0, under 3 left in the second.
Matt Smith
@Snakebite350
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No Tarasenko, no Steen in warmup for the #stlblues
, Jake Allen starting in goal. #NHLPlayoffs #StanleyCup
MTL still down a goal. Price is out of the net for the extra attacker.
let's see if we can get an OT.
People complain about MTL being even included in the restart and maybe they shouldn't have been, but they are showing they can hang with anyone. PHI has their hands full.
STL cuts the VAN lead in half to 2 - 1 with an OT win.
COL vs ARI at 05:30pm on NBCSN, COL leads series 2 - 1
BOS vs CAR at 08:00pm on NBCSN, BOS leads series 2 - 1 - unfortunately I will get NESN and have to hear Jack Edwards.
STL vs VAN back at it again at 10:30pm on NBCSN, VAN leads series 2 - 1
People complain about MTL being even included in the restart and maybe they shouldn't have been, but they are showing they can hang with anyone. PHI has their hands full.
I watched the entire game, MTL was the better team. Had many more scoring chances, hit the post 4x. Hart might be really good, but he's been very fortunate. And some of the scoring chances were shot right into his gut (yes I know positioning is important).
The Flyers only goal was a fluke type bounce in and they've scored just three goals in three games.
They're doing a great job, but when you live in a bubble I sorta expect things to go this way........you are severly limiting any mistakes a bonehead could make...........
They lead 1 - 0.
CBJ has won every faceoff so far in this game. 12 - 0.
TBL up 2 - 0.
Rare bad play/turnover by Seth Jones.
CBJ cuts the lead in half, pending review.
CBJ cuts the lead in half, pending review.
no challenge by TBL - good goal, 2 - 1.
Watching Cale Makar is a lot of fun, so smooth.
With Makar, Hughes, Dahlin, Heiskanen, Fox, so many elite skating young defenseman in the league right now.
coast to coast, beats Rantaa who replaced Kuemper, Avs up 5 - 1.
wheels around the offensive zone, no one can catch him, dishes in front to Calvert who scores on his own rebound.
6 - 1 Avs.
game over, series likely over.
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No Svechnikov, no Pasta.
CAR up 2 - 0, 7 and a half left in the 2nd.
Bergeron and Krejci missed gimmes for Boston and Necas for Carolina.
90 seconds left in the second, still 2 - 0 canes.
Quinnipiac alum Connor Clifton seizes the momentum and ties it up with a top shelf blast from just outside the face off dot.
tie game, under 10 left.
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Bruins up 3 - 2.
Shut out the lights this is over.
Canes turtled.
Bruins look best they have all playoffs.
A game they were leading by 2 goals, there is just over 5 min left in the period and they don't have a shot on net.
debrusk scores again, like going through butter.
Bruins up 4 - 2.
3 min left in the period, Canes don't have a shot on net.
cut the 4 - 2 lead to 1. Down a goal with 40 seconds left, net empty
he should just not play 3rd periods against Boston ever again. and he initiated the whole momentum turn with that ridiculous attempt to play the puck.
Brutal loss.
Brutal loss.
they weren't his fault besides that one, but you know how momentum works. The Canes were back on their heels all period, but the Bruins still hadn't scored until that time. That first goal (and the McAvoy hit), definitely put some jump in the Bruins.
I hope he's alright. Looked clean to me, but I didn't watch the replays closely.
SC hero Binnington, still on the bench in favor of Jake Allen.
Today's game:
PHI vs MTL at 03:00pm on NBCSN, PHI Leads the series 2 - 1
CAL vs DAL at 05:30pm on NBCSN, Series tied 2 - 2
NYI vs WAS at 08:00pm on NBCSN, NYI leads 3 - 0
CHI vs LVG at 10:30pm om NBCSN, LVG leads, 3 - 1
Cancer sucks.
Price has allowed 3 goals in 3 games, and the Habs are down 2 - 1.
Down 1 - 0 after one, definitely had chances.
paddled into his own net.
2 - 0 PHI, under 3 left in the 2nd.
I bet that's the first time in history.
Before today they were the first team in history to allow 3 goals in 3 games and be down 2 - 1.
Yeah I'm getting serious PTSD watching an AV team lean on the goalie and shot blocking to close out close playoff games. I don't think they're a serious threat for the cup, they haven't impressed much in this series despite the lead
Boring, but effective at clogging the center of the ice, limiting chances, and solid in net and in front of the net - not many 2nd chance opportunities for MTL. Hart will get the credit for back to back shutouts, and should, but MTL had just a handful of high danger chances.
Like game 2 though in this series, if your skill/hustle can beat them it can get ugly and MTL chased Hart in the 2nd period, but otherwise not fun hockey to watch.
MTL in the series has outscored PHI 6 - 5 and are down 3 - 1. LOL.
I do not put the Flyers in the Bruins, Lightning or Islanders class right now (and I thought they would be). The Islanders play similar in some regards, but are MUCH deeper, and their skill players have more speed.
Best thing for MTL is Kotkaniemi has been great all series, Suzuki has flashed, and Weber and Price have been MTL's best players.
Just need a couple more players - a top 6 forward and a top 4 D. Romanov could be the D. Taylor Hall at F?
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I wouldn't be encouraged by this performance if I was a Flyers fan.
Yeah I'm getting serious PTSD watching an AV team lean on the goalie and shot blocking to close out close playoff games. I don't think they're a serious threat for the cup, they haven't impressed much in this series despite the lead
I see that. Both the Flyers and Islanders are teams that seem to punch way above their talent level, but the Flyers seem to be doing it based on goaltending while the Islanders do it on superb defensive structure.
I think the teams out West have looked more impressive than any of the teams in the East to me (in particular Colorado).
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Right now MacKinnon looks every bit as effective as McDavid.
He's the best player every time he steps on the ice.
And Makar is so smooth, needs to be careful of the turnovers. He's been careless in his own end.
not sure COL has the goaltending to win it all, but they may have their best chance since Roy.
I can see a COL/CAL and BOS/NYI conference finals if that's possible.
Yes, good read, but I always felt like that team was fool's gold. They won two rounds so no denying that, and they were on the doorstep, but I never felt confident. the 2013-2014 team (Kreider knocking out Price) had championship potential IMO and I think they would have beat LA if they got past the Rangers.
Puts CAL on the bring, DAL up 3 - 2.
Caps D is butter.
NYI up 2 - 0, WAS facing elimination calls a TO
2 - 2. 14:30 left in the 2nd.
he has maybe the sickest shot in the league.
See if CHI can do the same.
Toews and Debrincat score for CHI, Patches for LVG.
Crawford sparkled.
2 - 1 CHI after 1.
3rd?
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LVG ties it up.
3rd?
2nd? Long day.
LVG closes it out and becomes the first team into the 2nd round and CHI becomes the first team eliminated.
CBJ vs TBL at 12:00pm on NBCSN, TBL up 3 - 1
CAR vs BOS at 04:00pm on NBCSN, BOS up 3 - 1 (Pasta back?)
ARI vs COL at 05:30pm on NBCSN, COL up 3 - 1
MTL vs PHI at 08:00pm on NBCSN, PHI up 3 - 1
VAN vs STL at 10:30pm on NBCSN, Series tied 2 - 2
Big loss, but he missed most of the season and they were the 1 seed in the West, so nothing they're not used to.
I don't think Rask had to explain himself to anyone, but the critics (of which there were only a few, and none on BBI, fortunately) should feel stupid.
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Islanders are the better team, IMO. This isn't the Caps of old. Plus I think Holtby sucks now and will blow a game.
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I figured it was something like that, but I also agree he owes no one an explanation.
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get Backstrom back they might be a little dangerous, but NYI dominated something like 10 out of 12 periods so far and only Ovi is a consistent offensive threat.
He kind of took over the game in 2nd and 3rd, starting with the bear hug. I credit him for sending a signal but not doing anything stupid or endangering after the slash on back of his calf. Have to respect him and his game.
I feel like I know hockey pretty well, but I just don't get how wide open players like Ovi, Pasta, and others who don't have the speed or elusiveness of someone like McDavid get to uncork insane shots.
If I were playing the Caps, I'd let Vrana, Wilson, Oshie and Kuznetsov, etc. try and beat me. I would make sure Ovi doesn't.
Easier said than done I guess, it's not like he's an up and coming player who surprised everyone yesterday.
Maybe because of last year's total team debacle, but he's playing well (maybe I'll jinx him).
CBJ has TBL on their heels, but TBL winning 2 - 1 with 13 left int he 2nd (due to Vasilevsky) and CBJ fighting to stay alive.
If I were playing the Caps, I'd let Vrana, Wilson, Oshie and Kuznetsov, etc. try and beat me. I would make sure Ovi doesn't.
Easier said than done I guess, it's not like he's an up and coming player who surprised everyone yesterday.
Stenlund (who?) 2015 2nd round pick., 1st playoff goal for Stenlund.
Tampa looks terrible.
CBJ now up 3 - 2 as the 2nd period winds down. TBL getting run around their own end. and now they'll start the 3rd short-handed.
Tampa looks terrible.
I'd maybe agree best shot. But Gretzky has to be best goal scorer. the numbers are just staggering even if you try and explain bigger goalie pads, etc.
lol, my hockey playing is probably better than yours, but my opinion isn't.
they're the two best goal scorers in history, I don't think someone who favors one over the other is right or wrong.
But either way, since I complimented Vasilevsky three goals in under 2 periods.
No love for CBJ, but I hate TBL.
Under 8 left in the 3rd.
Normally I'd like that, but I think it could push the other Toronto bubble games back if it escalates too much.
So, I love playoff OT, but I hope it doesn't linger.
No slew foot, smart play by Dubois to pick up his leg, looks like Sergachev knocked his own goalie down.
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TBL closes it out, sweet pass from Kucherov to Point who was somehow wide open in front of the net. Point dekes korpisalo and goes top shelf (on the backhand I think)
I hate Tampa too, mostly because I'm still hurt over 2015.
Seth Jones and Zack Werenski IMO might be the best D pair in the league, and not just because they're both young, American, and have offensive game, but because they both play good D.
and you're right it was closer than 4 - 1 would indicate, every game TBL won, was by one goal - including the 5 OT game obviously.
I wonder if all the games in TOR will be similarly pushed back - probably.
Seth Jones and Zack Werenski IMO might be the best D pair in the league, and not just because they're both young, American, and have offensive game, but because they both play good D.
and you're right it was closer than 4 - 1 would indicate, every game TBL won, was by one goal - including the 5 OT game obviously.
I think I agree on Jones/Werenski.
I love Dubois as well - some of the analysts were talking about whether you pick Dubois over Laine. I think that's a bit premature, but he looked great this post-season.
Especially when compared with someone like Dubois. I like both players, but man Laine has that sick shot that's hard to replace.
In his "down year" Laine still had 30 goals. at 20 years old. lol.
But it's not isolated, there is a lot of people down on Laine.
I love Dubois' style, he's gritty and has skill, but not near the offensive production of Laine.
I'm sure I'm missing something, maybe going forward people feel like this is as good as it will get from Laine (wouldn't be the first time) and Dubois is getting better.
Bergeron drew a penalty at least.
Bruins down 1 - 0 with 6 min or so left in the 2nd.
Looked like Krejci.
What a bad angle goal.
Avs up 2 - 0 looking to end ARI season.
7 min left in the first.
Bruins to the PP early 2nd still up 2 - 1
Bruins to the PP early 2nd still up 2 - 1
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holding call on McLovin, just a weak call.
Bruins to the PP early 2nd still up 2 - 1
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lol, damn multi-tasking
Coyotes on life support.
Canes join, chi and the BJ's and go home.
Canadiens are going to be the last '17-24 seed' team alive in about an hour.
Canadiens are going to be the last '17-24 seed' team alive in about an hour.
I thought Canadiens had the 16 seed wrapped up (unless of course they reach the conference finals)?
was CHI worse?
Canadiens are going to be the last '17-24 seed' team alive in about an hour.
So if PHI wins because of re-seeding, it would be PHI vs NYI and BOS vs TBL, in the East, right?
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Outside of the third period in game 4, I didn't think the Bruins looked all that good.
Canadiens are going to be the last '17-24 seed' team alive in about an hour.
I thought Canadiens had the 16 seed wrapped up (unless of course they reach the conference finals)?
was CHI worse?
I was talking about the initial ranking prior to qualifiers (meaning they were outside the normal conference top 8). I've seen a lot of people upset about the prospect of one of those non top 8 teams winning the Cup.
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Outside of the third period in game 4, I didn't think the Bruins looked all that good.
Canadiens are going to be the last '17-24 seed' team alive in about an hour.
So if PHI wins because of re-seeding, it would be PHI vs NYI and BOS vs TBL, in the East, right?
I think so, but I haven't seen that confirmed anywhere yet.
I mean by a lot, like a mile.
Carter is great, Sharp is great and Tappen knows her shit.
they take the lead 1 - 0 a few min in.
I mean by a lot, like a mile.
Carter is great, Sharp is great and Tappen knows her shit.
Agreed.
Habs look good early on.
Same.
But not because of AV's suit which I didn't notice but because Boucher is an unrepentant flyer homer. It's like playing the Bruins and having Jack Edwards do the game.
And he's terrible as is Forslund.
I like Doc. he should do every single game.
agree. I support player safety, but that's as much on the skater, you cannot ask a player to go full speed and adjust like that.
every time he got the puck today it was jaw dropping, I don't have an issue if someone says he's the best player in the game right now.
McDavid is faster, etc. but the power game MacKinnon has and his own speed/skill I'm not sure I don't rank MacKinnon first.
Sanheim sees him coming and turns toward the boards.
i think it was late or a charge, a 2min penalty. not a major or game misconduct. that is ridiculous.
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would be better if MTL had their best player of the playoffs still on the ice, but I guess not.
Sanheim sees him coming and turns toward the boards.
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I didn't see that at the time, I agree, two minutes.
The Avs are what I dream the Rangers rebuild becoming.
Give up a PP goal to tie it, then Drouin uses his speed, to hunt down a puck and give Suzuki a no-look pass in front.
Habs back up. 4 - 3 under 9 left.
Cheap shot by Couturier after the goal.
under 7 left in the 1st.
I'm constantly amazed by the volume of broken sticks in the NHL. These guys probably don't pay a cent for them, but these sticks cost $300 each or more.
Took a cross check to the face, no call on the play, ref right there, but Kotkaniemi was ejected. Refs haven't been bad IMO all things considered, but this miss was huge.
I knew this day would come even though I have been living in denial the past couple weeks.
NYI vs WAS at 08:00pm on NBCSN, NYI up 3 - 1
DAL vs CAL at 10:30pm on NBCSN, DAL up 3 - 2
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Hearing there's no further discipline expected for Jesperi Kotkaniemi regarding the hit on Travis Sanheim that saw him assessed a major penalty and ejected from Game 5.
NHL Player Safety
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Philadelphia’s Matt Niskanen will have a hearing today for Cross-checking Montreal’s Brendan Gallagher.
@renlavoietva
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What a lot of people feared is now confirmed. Broken jaw for @CanadiensMTL forward Brendan Gallagher, according to multiple sources.
@renlavoietva
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What a lot of people feared is now confirmed. Broken jaw for @CanadiensMTL forward Brendan Gallagher, according to multiple sources.
Out for the series. Pussy, Chara played (although that was in the SCF).
I wonder if you can appeal this, doesn't seem like it.
I thought the call leading to the goal was weak but maybe I didn't get a good look at it.
The too many men just seemed wrong.
1 for 19 going into that PP... ya, it had been rough
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Philadelphia’s Matt Niskanen has been suspended for one playoff game for Cross-checking Montreal’s Brendan Gallagher. http://ow.ly/jZP430r5svh
Kristen Shilton
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Interesting how much previous suspension history must play into decisions. Nazem Kadri was suspended for remainder of #Leafs series vs. Boston for cross-checking Jake DeBrusk in the face last season.
Niskanen has no suspension history, and gets one game for a pretty brutal play
2 - 0 NYI, game half over.
What an asshole.
Twitter (and the broadcast) are all killing Kovalchuk.
I love the Habs traded him for a 3rd round pick after signing him in January for next to nothing.
I do hope Kovalchuk scores before the Caps are eliminated because it would be close to the largest gap between playoff goals in history (I have to imagine) - something like 10 years.
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Interesting how much previous suspension history must play into decisions. Nazem Kadri was suspended for remainder of #Leafs series vs. Boston for cross-checking Jake DeBrusk in the face last season.
Niskanen has no suspension history, and gets one game for a pretty brutal play
No it is just the beheaded chicken landed on bailout
So, if PHI wins it's NYI vs PHI and BOS vs TBL
good matchups, but man that NYI vs PHI series is either going to be insane or insanely boring.
NHL should hope MTL wins b/c their D is worse, will be more offense.
I'd take Heiskanen over all the other young stud dmen.
Big time
Maybe try and unload Lucic and get a goalie, but they are a young-ish team, and were missing one of their best players.
Dallas also a good young team and i agree with the Heiskanen comment - he's a player I said I'd consider trading Lafreniere for in the other thread. Playing in Dallas he doesn't get much press. Hughes, Makar, even Fox and McAvoy, but Heiskanen and Dahlin are in that class or better.
MTL vs PHI at 07:00pm on NBCSN, PHI leads 3 - 2
STL vs VAN at 09:45pm on NBCSN, VAN leads 3 - 2
After last game, you would expect a blood bath in Toronto, but it never seems to work out that way, you usually get a peaceful game after a melee.
STL vs VAN too has been a physical series.
Lee looks like a Captain. Maybe hard to describe what I mean by that, but when I see him play that's how it seems.
I was impressed obviously by the D and Varlamov, but the forwards too, JGP, Barzal, Lee, Beauvilier, I thought all looked really good and stood out.
If they maintain the pace, and clog up the middle, they will contend.
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“You don’t like to see any players get injured, there’s no doubt. But at the end of the day I can only state the facts and the fact was Gallagher got up and he didn’t shut up for five minutes...If MTL medical staff thought it was serious, they would’ve taken him out.” Vigneault
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Islanders have been impressive since coming back from break. Adam Pelech is a really underrated player.
Lee looks like a Captain. Maybe hard to describe what I mean by that, but when I see him play that's how it seems.
I was impressed obviously by the D and Varlamov, but the forwards too, JGP, Barzal, Lee, Beauvilier, I thought all looked really good and stood out.
If they maintain the pace, and clog up the middle, they will contend.
I was concerned with what they paid for JGP and Greene at the trade deadline and then the large extension on JGP, but come the playoffs they are the type of players that win hockey games. This team really would have been a lot better had Panarin not settled for less money to play for the Rangers. Him next to Barzal and Eberle would have been great to see. Then you could have Lee with Pageau and either Dal Colle or Brassard until Wahlstrom or Bellows is ready. Komarov and Johnston are depth for the fourth line as none of our 4th line players are going to avoid injury with their style of play.
AV have a long memory?
Appreciate it. Looking forward to seeing NYI vs NYR at a packed Coliseum next year. Nothing like those games when there's a bit of juice behind it.
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Islanders have been impressive since coming back from break. Adam Pelech is a really underrated player.
Lee looks like a Captain. Maybe hard to describe what I mean by that, but when I see him play that's how it seems.
I was impressed obviously by the D and Varlamov, but the forwards too, JGP, Barzal, Lee, Beauvilier, I thought all looked really good and stood out.
If they maintain the pace, and clog up the middle, they will contend.
I was concerned with what they paid for JGP and Greene at the trade deadline and then the large extension on JGP, but come the playoffs they are the type of players that win hockey games. This team really would have been a lot better had Panarin not settled for less money to play for the Rangers. Him next to Barzal and Eberle would have been great to see. Then you could have Lee with Pageau and either Dal Colle or Brassard until Wahlstrom or Bellows is ready. Komarov and Johnston are depth for the fourth line as none of our 4th line players are going to avoid injury with their style of play.
The Greene deal annoyed me more. JGP was a steep price, but he's a perfect fit for us (our organization's C depth was really thin and he's right in his prime, so adding him for 5 years is perfect).
I really thought that a Greene rental would've been only worth a 3rd or 4th, and that a 2nd was just too much. So far, he had a really solid series vs WSH and outplayed Boychuk.
Don't fall for it. 107mph at flyer domes. Make it happen.
AV have a long memory?
Pretty unprofessional if that's what he's doing. a) Stepan came back in that series. Did he even miss a game? b) that series is the same one Kreider knocked out Price and there was a lot of back and forth.
and lastly Prust got 2 games for a lesser hit than what Niskanen got 1 game for
COL vs DAL, SAT 8pm.
If the Habs and Blues win, it would force game 7's on Sunday, so I think it's weird that they'll start round 2 before round 1 ends. But maybe that always happens, seems like ages since MTL made the playoffs and this is obviously an unusual year.
I do think MTL loses tonight, not sure about STL.
Need at least one game 7 from this round.
COL vs DAL, SAT 8pm.
If the Habs and Blues win, it would force game 7's on Sunday, so I think it's weird that they'll start round 2 before round 1 ends. But maybe that always happens, seems like ages since MTL made the playoffs and this is obviously an unusual year.
I do think MTL loses tonight, not sure about STL.
Need at least one game 7 from this round.
I think because of the nature of COVID while everyone is healthy they are trying to get as much in as they can. Since that series does not alter COL/DAL it makes no sense to hold it up.
I think its less about players being "negative" on the test and more about TV ratings.. its not like they can speed up the entire tournament much because of this … you still four teams playing in the first round.
Playoffs have been exciting by the way and the better teams are generally winning so that hopefully sets up for a great quarterfinal bracket... but just one "winner take all game" in 14 series now really sucks. Go Habs and Blues!
and I agree, need some game 7's.
I do like the prospective match-ups for the 2nd round though (if chalk holds)
East
BOS vs TBL
PHI vs NYI
West
COL vs DAL
LVG vs STL (though I'd prefer VAN - they're fun to watch)
Classy.
What's your thought on the Caps' showing? I think the attrition of roster departures post cup is evident. The bottom of the roster really misses guys like Beagle, Burakovsky, Connolly, etc.
I've always been a Kovy fan, but sad trombone for his performance.
If this is PHI, they are not as good as people think or MTL was better than their record showed.
MTL outplayed PHI, but not on the scoreboard. Not one of the 3 goals for the Flyers was clean, all three were off Canadiens players, but I don't think puck luck is random, I think you make your own puck luck so I give the Flyers credit. You have to.
If the NYI play like they played so far they should make short work of the Flyers.
I was really impressed with Montreal this series. I like Suzuki a lot.
and I agree, need some game 7's.
I do like the prospective match-ups for the 2nd round though (if chalk holds)
East
BOS vs TBL
PHI vs NYI
West
COL vs DAL
LVG vs STL (though I'd prefer VAN - they're fun to watch)
I think you’ll get VAN. STL is a tough out obviously but they are down 2-3 and have so many key injuries right now.
I was really impressed with Montreal this series. I like Suzuki a lot.
thanks man, I'm over it. lol.
Canadiens have a good future, maybe not quite the stable of prospects/youth the Rangers will have, but Romanov joins the blue line next year - they desperately need him and maybe Caufield in March (depending on NCAA season) and they desperately need him. They don't have a sniper on MTL.
and they're in good cap shape.
Taylor Hall?
Sean Monahan? The Rangers should be in on Monahan too, since I read CAL is likely to be shopping him.
Really good #2C with a fair contract for the next 3 years.
nice shot.
Oops - wrong team....
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I was really impressed with Montreal this series. I like Suzuki a lot.
thanks man, I'm over it. lol.
Canadiens have a good future, maybe not quite the stable of prospects/youth the Rangers will have, but Romanov joins the blue line next year - they desperately need him and maybe Caufield in March (depending on NCAA season) and they desperately need him. They don't have a sniper on MTL.
and they're in good cap shape.
Taylor Hall?
Sean Monahan? The Rangers should be in on Monahan too, since I read CAL is likely to be shopping him.
Really good #2C with a fair contract for the next 3 years.
I don't watch much of MTL, but they had a handful of young guys I was really impressed with. I'm not a big believe in season to season momentum, but a lot of players looked to have taken big steps from what I remember during the year. I think Montreal was the better team against PHI.
Vancouver looks to have more designed plays than other teams. Another team I don't watch much of, of course.
Oops - wrong team....
Toasted Ravioli
Price and Weber are old and have big contracts.
they can't be patient like the younger teams (though the Canadiens have a lot of youth too).
And I thought Price and Weber were great until this game, Weber was brutal. He has games like this every now and then where his lack of speed is exposed and they still trot him out there on the PP to set up his one-timer, but he's a liability - almost no one has a plodding D even with a cannon shot on their PP anymore.
Swap him out for a Krug-type and with the skill guys they'd do much better.
anyway, MTL is a fun team to watch play. Hopefully they start to be a contender too.
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Jordan Binnington has allowed 13 goals on 65 shots in this series. #stlblues
He allowed 13 goals on 145 shots in games 3 - 7 vs #Bruins last spring. #StanleyCup
Some questionable coaching decisions all playoffs - CAR, STL, even LVG I wasn't sure what they were doing.
Maybe. A lot of free agent goalies.
Halak, Holtby, Crawford, Lehner, Markstrom, Talbot, Khodobin, Anderson (and more)
none are young potential franchise goalies, but there's a lot of experience (and some rings) there.
Plus the best goalie prospect since Carey Price is in the draft.
Stop looking at this through neutral glasses
His stats are very impressive for someone his age. Georgiev is younger and better than Talbot. He also has 3 RFA years left. Did you see Talbot in the playoffs? He imploded. Plus, he's an UFA. I highly doubt Calgary brings him back after what they just witnessed in the playoffs.
Teams that could be interested in trading for Georgiev:
Flames, Red Wings, Blues, Maple Leafs (if they sour on Andersson), Coyotes, Senators, Sharks, Oilers, Blackhawks, Sabres, Golden Knights
Georgiev will be highly sought-after. Goalies like Lehner, Freddie Andersen and Martin Jones all netted first round picks. When we traded Cam Talbot, we got a 2nd and a 3rd.
Georgiev will get similar value. My guess is he'll net either a second rounder + another pick or prospect, or used a chip to move up in the Draft. Perhaps something like the Hurricanes pick, Georgiev and another piece to the Sabres for 8th overall.
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His numbers don't support that theory. They are average across the board. Cam Talbot was the statistically superior player in every significant goal tending category...and he's struggled as a front man.
Stop looking at this through neutral glasses
Georgiev, 24:
3.04 GAA, SV% .910
Lehner (the season before he was traded for a first round pick), 24:
3.02 .905
Expecting a second round pick+ for Georgiev is entirely reasonable. With so many teams needing young, quality goaltending under team control in a flat-cap era, Georgiev will be sought-after.
A lot of star power (no pun intended) in this game and I think the Avs roll, but Dallas has quality at all levels and probably more depth.
Players I like to watch play:
DAL: Heiskanen, Hintz, Seguin, Radulov, Gurianov, Benn, Klingberg, Radulov even Pavelski at this age still has skill.
COL: MacKinnon, Makar, Rantanen, Landeskog.
Kadri is having a good playoffs, but if I said I enjoy watching him play I'd be lying. He's the closest thing to Tom Wilson this series will have or maybe Corey Perry is, both agitators.
First time watching VAN for any length last night, fun team, young, very good skating team and balance along the roster. Beagle was surgical in setting up his screen yet Binnington still got a piece of it, not enough. Stetcher's shot was a beauty. Seemed to me it was the 4th goal that Binnington really needed to save. But I wonder how VAN's play will translate vs LVK (putative successor to the mid last decade Kings?)
Probably a combination of not testing fate re: negative tests, and also trying to get these guys home to their families a little sooner, if possible.
All in great job continues to be done by this league this summer... must admit. And of course flawless execution of the draft lottery too.
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His numbers don't support that theory. They are average across the board. Cam Talbot was the statistically superior player in every significant goal tending category...and he's struggled as a front man.
Stop looking at this through neutral glasses
Georgiev, 24:
3.04 GAA, SV% .910
Lehner (the season before he was traded for a first round pick), 24:
3.02 .905
Expecting a second round pick+ for Georgiev is entirely reasonable. With so many teams needing young, quality goaltending under team control in a flat-cap era, Georgiev will be sought-after.
Lehner was always more highly thought of than Georgiev. Not to mention that teams know that Rangers have to dump a goalie with Henrik and Shesterkin also in the picture. They will be lucky to get even what Cam Talbot returned.
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His numbers don't support that theory. They are average across the board. Cam Talbot was the statistically superior player in every significant goal tending category...and he's struggled as a front man.
Stop looking at this through neutral glasses
Georgiev, 24:
3.04 GAA, SV% .910
Lehner (the season before he was traded for a first round pick), 24:
3.02 .905
Expecting a second round pick+ for Georgiev is entirely reasonable. With so many teams needing young, quality goaltending under team control in a flat-cap era, Georgiev will be sought-after.
Lehner was always more highly thought of than Georgiev. Not to mention that teams know that Rangers have to dump a goalie with Henrik and Shesterkin also in the picture. They will be lucky to get even what Cam Talbot returned.
Why was Lehner always more highly thought of?
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His numbers don't support that theory. They are average across the board. Cam Talbot was the statistically superior player in every significant goal tending category...and he's struggled as a front man.
Stop looking at this through neutral glasses
Georgiev, 24:
3.04 GAA, SV% .910
Lehner (the season before he was traded for a first round pick), 24:
3.02 .905
Expecting a second round pick+ for Georgiev is entirely reasonable. With so many teams needing young, quality goaltending under team control in a flat-cap era, Georgiev will be sought-after.
Lehner was always more highly thought of than Georgiev. Not to mention that teams know that Rangers have to dump a goalie with Henrik and Shesterkin also in the picture. They will be lucky to get even what Cam Talbot returned.
Why was Lehner always more highly thought of?
Top ranked Euro goalie according to Central Scouting his draft year. Calder Cup MVP in 2011. Georgiev was not even drafted. Lehner also posted significantly better AHL numbers than Georgiev and his 2012-2013 was far better than what Georgiev ever has had. There were a lot of people who thought Lehner was rushed in Ottawa and then dangled between AHL and NHL and that with more consistent playing time would do better.
Why was Lehner always more highly thought of?
Lehner is 6'4" 240 with the athleticism and quickness of a smaller man. It's like shooting on a grizzly bear. That's why he was always worth the gamble to teams despite his off ice struggles.
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His numbers don't support that theory. They are average across the board. Cam Talbot was the statistically superior player in every significant goal tending category...and he's struggled as a front man.
Stop looking at this through neutral glasses
Georgiev, 24:
3.04 GAA, SV% .910
Lehner (the season before he was traded for a first round pick), 24:
3.02 .905
Expecting a second round pick+ for Georgiev is entirely reasonable. With so many teams needing young, quality goaltending under team control in a flat-cap era, Georgiev will be sought-after.
Lehner was always more highly thought of than Georgiev. Not to mention that teams know that Rangers have to dump a goalie with Henrik and Shesterkin also in the picture. They will be lucky to get even what Cam Talbot returned.
Why was Lehner always more highly thought of?
Top ranked Euro goalie according to Central Scouting his draft year. Calder Cup MVP in 2011. Georgiev was not even drafted. Lehner also posted significantly better AHL numbers than Georgiev and his 2012-2013 was far better than what Georgiev ever has had. There were a lot of people who thought Lehner was rushed in Ottawa and then dangled between AHL and NHL and that with more consistent playing time would do better.
So what? They had the similar stats in the NHL. Who cares about their pedigrees? Undrafted players are automatically discarded even if they prove they belong?
"and that with more consistent playing time would do better."
Can't you say the same exact thing about Georgiev?
Why was Lehner always more highly thought of?
Lehner has a career 2.72 GAA w a .918 save percentage in over 300 games played, which is better than Gorgiev. To be fair Gorgievs sample size is about 1/4 of that. Lehner was also coming off a monster year with the Isles where he posted a 2.13 GAA with a .930 save %.
I'll also echo what Mike said. Teams know the Rangers need to move someone or br stuck with a crowded goalie room. Is Gorgiev going to be happy in the AHL next year?
The flat cap I think hurts your argument as teams aren't going to want to give up draft assets. I imagine a fair number of the goalies listed earlier will take short deals to be able to test FA again in a year or two hoping the cap increases again
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Why was Lehner always more highly thought of?
Lehner has a career 2.72 GAA w a .918 save percentage in over 300 games played, which is better than Gorgiev. To be fair Gorgievs sample size is about 1/4 of that. Lehner was also coming off a monster year with the Isles where he posted a 2.13 GAA with a .930 save %.
I'll also echo what Mike said. Teams know the Rangers need to move someone or br stuck with a crowded goalie room. Is Gorgiev going to be happy in the AHL next year?
The flat cap I think hurts your argument as teams aren't going to want to give up draft assets. I imagine a fair number of the goalies listed earlier will take short deals to be able to test FA again in a year or two hoping the cap increases again
Jay, we're discussing why Georgiev will net at least a second round pick in a trade. Lehner's career with the Islanders is irrelevant. Lehner was traded for a first round pick in 2015.
"The flat cap I think hurts your argument as teams aren't going to want to give up draft assets."
Except it's highly unlikely that a second rounder would make the team out of camp or even next year, so again, not really relevant. And having a young promising goalie under team control for the next 3 years (at least) will be highly desirable in a flat-cap.
Guess we'll see. Meanwhile, this is a playoff thread, not a Rangers/Georgiev thread, so perhaps it's best to move on.
Lmao
A 14 game sample heavy on lottery teams.
Then wants to change the subject after injecting it at every opportunity.
Don't ever change. Your unintentional entertainment factor. is off the charts. I mean that in a non dickish way
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A 14 game sample heavy on lottery teams.
Then wants to change the subject after injecting it at every opportunity.
Don't ever change. Your unintentional entertainment factor. is off the charts. I mean that in a non dickish way
Not surprisingly, you misinterpreted the data. And I'm doing you a favor. This is a Playoff thread and last I checked, your team is in the Playoffs. I don't know why you don't have your own Playoff thread, but here we are. If you'd like to continue talking about the value of Georgiev, I'm more than game.
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Why was Lehner always more highly thought of?
Lehner has a career 2.72 GAA w a .918 save percentage in over 300 games played, which is better than Gorgiev. To be fair Gorgievs sample size is about 1/4 of that. Lehner was also coming off a monster year with the Isles where he posted a 2.13 GAA with a .930 save %.
I'll also echo what Mike said. Teams know the Rangers need to move someone or br stuck with a crowded goalie room. Is Gorgiev going to be happy in the AHL next year?
The flat cap I think hurts your argument as teams aren't going to want to give up draft assets. I imagine a fair number of the goalies listed earlier will take short deals to be able to test FA again in a year or two hoping the cap increases again
Jay, we're discussing why Georgiev will net at least a second round pick in a trade. Lehner's career with the Islanders is irrelevant. Lehner was traded for a first round pick in 2015.
"The flat cap I think hurts your argument as teams aren't going to want to give up draft assets."
Except it's highly unlikely that a second rounder would make the team out of camp or even next year, so again, not really relevant. And having a young promising goalie under team control for the next 3 years (at least) will be highly desirable in a flat-cap.
I misread your original Lehner point, I thought you were talking about what he netted this year at the deadline going from Chicago to Vegas.
We're just going to have to agree to disagree. In a market where there are plenty of goalies available I think you'll be disappointed with the return.
I also think teams might feel a bit burnt by trading for Rangers back-ups. Maybe he can fetch a second alone (although I’m doubtful as well) - I think the best trade the Rangers could make is a Georgiev+TDA package or something like that.
Avs, Canucks, Islanders, Lightning
I think I was under 50% in round 1, lol
I also think teams might feel a bit burnt by trading for Rangers back-ups. Maybe he can fetch a second alone (although I’m doubtful as well) - I think the best trade the Rangers could make is a Georgiev+TDA package or something like that.
A few things:
Talbot was better than Georgiev, but he also had a better defense in front of him, and had a somewhat shorter sample. He was also older than Georgiev is now and closer to needing a UFA contract. Georgiev's youth and team control make him desirable.
As I said, I'm expecting a second round+ return for Georgiev (ala Talbot) or for him to be packaged with an asset or two to either move up in the Draft or for a promising, young roster player (ala Raanta). Rumors were that the Rangers asked for a young top 6 NHL forward for Georgiev at the Deadline.
And it's a fair point about the goalies on the market, but those guys will command more on the open market than the team-controlled Georgiev. That was my whole point about him being more desirable in a season with a flat cap. And again, look at how many teams need goalies.
All of this could potentially be moot if Henrik decides to retire and the Rangers want to platoon Georgiev and Igor next season.
For you, Torrag. Corsica rating. Georgiev was ranked 15th. - ( New Window )
What a douche. Meanwhile, he doesn't offer much to begin with.
thank god. now if we could just get as francesa calls him, pee hair mcguire gone as well the broadcasts would be close to perfection
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MIKE MILBURY: “In light of the attention caused by my recent remark, I have decided to step away from my role at NBC Sports for the remainder of the Stanley Cup Playoffs. I do not want my presence to interfere with the athletes as they try to win the greatest trophy in sports.”
thank god. now if we could just get as francesa calls him, pee hair mcguire gone as well the broadcasts would be close to perfection
Milbury is a whiz. He turned
Olli Jokinen
Gaborik/Heatley
Scott Hartnell
Jason Spezza
Roberto Luongo
Zdeno Chara
into:
Alexei Yashin
Rick Dipietro
Mark Parrish
Oleg Kvasha
Raffi Torres
I mean even Billy King wasn't that inept
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Milbury is a whiz. He turned
Olli Jokinen
Gaborik/Heatley
Scott Hartnell
Jason Spezza
Roberto Luongo
Zdeno Chara
into:
Alexei Yashin
Rick Dipietro
Mark Parrish
Oleg Kvasha
Raffi Torres
I mean even Billy King wasn't that inept
You should probably credit the tweet that just posted that.
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Milbury is a whiz. He turned
Olli Jokinen
Gaborik/Heatley
Scott Hartnell
Jason Spezza
Roberto Luongo
Zdeno Chara
into:
Alexei Yashin
Rick Dipietro
Mark Parrish
Oleg Kvasha
Raffi Torres
I mean even Billy King wasn't that inept
You should probably credit the tweet that just posted that.
It's a fact, jack
I also think teams might feel a bit burnt by trading for Rangers back-ups. Maybe he can fetch a second alone (although I’m doubtful as well) - I think the best trade the Rangers could make is a Georgiev+TDA package or something like that.
Probably best to hold onto Georgiev. Can’t imagine a scenario where Lundqvist fits under the cap Or is wanted back and Igor doesn’t strike me as cal Ripken nor is he ready for a full workload regardless
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You should probably credit the tweet that just posted that.
It's a fact, jack
Right. You copy and pasted someone else's tweet and didn't credit it.
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You should probably credit the tweet that just posted that.
It's a fact, jack
Right. You copy and pasted someone else's tweet and didn't credit it.
Milbury getting rid of Jokinen, Hartnell, Spezza, Luongo, and Chara is pretty well-known in the hockey world. But yes, I did see the tweet and I copied the names. No need to credit a list of names.
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I’d be surprised if Georgiev fetched as much as Talbot did - Talbot was a #1 for a long stretch due to Lundqvist’s injury in 2015. Talbot’s save percentage was also well above what Georgiev’s was. I think Talbot was really good for the Rangers (and was also good for two years in Edmonton) - Georgiev doesn’t have the same track record, and to the point others made, there are a lot of good goalies available this off-season.
I also think teams might feel a bit burnt by trading for Rangers back-ups. Maybe he can fetch a second alone (although I’m doubtful as well) - I think the best trade the Rangers could make is a Georgiev+TDA package or something like that.
A few things:
Talbot was better than Georgiev, but he also had a better defense in front of him, and had a somewhat shorter sample. He was also older than Georgiev is now and closer to needing a UFA contract. Georgiev's youth and team control make him desirable.
As I said, I'm expecting a second round+ return for Georgiev (ala Talbot) or for him to be packaged with an asset or two to either move up in the Draft or for a promising, young roster player (ala Raanta). Rumors were that the Rangers asked for a young top 6 NHL forward for Georgiev at the Deadline.
And it's a fair point about the goalies on the market, but those guys will command more on the open market than the team-controlled Georgiev. That was my whole point about him being more desirable in a season with a flat cap. And again, look at how many teams need goalies.
All of this could potentially be moot if Henrik decides to retire and the Rangers want to platoon Georgiev and Igor next season. For you, Torrag. Corsica rating. Georgiev was ranked 15th. - ( New Window )
I was higher on Talbot then than I am on Georgiev now. Talbot flashed top ten skill. I'm really not that impressed with Georgiev and think it would be great if we can turn him into a second.
So it depends. We own the Stars third round pick (so we obviously want that to be as high as possible), but the Stars are a lower-ranked team so if they win, the Rangers other first round pick is bumped up a spot.
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I’d be surprised if Georgiev fetched as much as Talbot did - Talbot was a #1 for a long stretch due to Lundqvist’s injury in 2015. Talbot’s save percentage was also well above what Georgiev’s was. I think Talbot was really good for the Rangers (and was also good for two years in Edmonton) - Georgiev doesn’t have the same track record, and to the point others made, there are a lot of good goalies available this off-season.
I also think teams might feel a bit burnt by trading for Rangers back-ups. Maybe he can fetch a second alone (although I’m doubtful as well) - I think the best trade the Rangers could make is a Georgiev+TDA package or something like that.
A few things:
Talbot was better than Georgiev, but he also had a better defense in front of him, and had a somewhat shorter sample. He was also older than Georgiev is now and closer to needing a UFA contract. Georgiev's youth and team control make him desirable.
As I said, I'm expecting a second round+ return for Georgiev (ala Talbot) or for him to be packaged with an asset or two to either move up in the Draft or for a promising, young roster player (ala Raanta). Rumors were that the Rangers asked for a young top 6 NHL forward for Georgiev at the Deadline.
And it's a fair point about the goalies on the market, but those guys will command more on the open market than the team-controlled Georgiev. That was my whole point about him being more desirable in a season with a flat cap. And again, look at how many teams need goalies.
All of this could potentially be moot if Henrik decides to retire and the Rangers want to platoon Georgiev and Igor next season. For you, Torrag. Corsica rating. Georgiev was ranked 15th. - ( New Window )
I was higher on Talbot then than I am on Georgiev now. Talbot flashed top ten skill. I'm really not that impressed with Georgiev and think it would be great if we can turn him into a second.
I don't disagree. As I said, I think Talbot was better when he was a Ranger than Georgiev is now, but he was also older and closer to UFA. All things considered, I feel we could/should see a similar return in a Georgiev trade.
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but won't know until something happens who to root for.
So it depends. We own the Stars third round pick (so we obviously want that to be as high as possible), but the Stars are a lower-ranked team so if they win, the Rangers other first round pick is bumped up a spot.
Have to say, at least in this first period, Stars look like the better team (aside from the score).
Maybe goalie too.
a lot of talent on the Stars team.
Avs too, but less depth.
Very entertaining game. I wouldn't be surprised if Colorado gets one in the next few minutes to make it a fun ending
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Get another in the third. Could be enough!
Very entertaining game. I wouldn't be surprised if Colorado gets one in the next few minutes to make it a fun ending
Well, I was wrong
But in Reirdons case - two straight first round exits and more importantly the guy looks more like Kevin Malone from The Office than a nhl coach
But in Reirdons case - two straight first round exits and more importantly the guy looks more like Kevin Malone from The Office than a nhl coach
I wonder if the Rangers will be interested to bring him aboard as an assistant. He helped coach the Capitals defense to a Stanley Cup only a couple of years ago. We happen to need a new "defensive coordinator." Seems like a natural fit.
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In this environment. It’s tough, teams lost all momentum with the long layoff.
But in Reirdons case - two straight first round exits and more importantly the guy looks more like Kevin Malone from The Office than a nhl coach
I wonder if the Rangers will be interested to bring him aboard as an assistant. He helped coach the Capitals defense to a Stanley Cup only a couple of years ago. We happen to need a new "defensive coordinator." Seems like a natural fit.
Guy has been shown to be a repeat loser. Does not seem to me to be what the Rangers need, now or ever.
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In this environment. It’s tough, teams lost all momentum with the long layoff.
But in Reirdons case - two straight first round exits and more importantly the guy looks more like Kevin Malone from The Office than a nhl coach
I wonder if the Rangers will be interested to bring him aboard as an assistant. He helped coach the Capitals defense to a Stanley Cup only a couple of years ago. We happen to need a new "defensive coordinator." Seems like a natural fit.
Guy has been shown to be a repeat loser. Does not seem to me to be what the Rangers need, now or ever.
Reirdan's career as an assistant in Washington:
"2014-15: 2.43 goals against per game, 7th in the NHL
2015-16: 2.33 goals against per game, 2nd in the NHL
2016-17: 2.16 goals against per game, 1st in the NHL
2017-18: 2.90 goals against per game, 16th in the NHL
In those four seasons combined, Washington allowed 2.45 goals per game, lower than every team in the NHL but one. He was also in charge of the team's lethal power play."
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In this environment. It’s tough, teams lost all momentum with the long layoff.
But in Reirdons case - two straight first round exits and more importantly the guy looks more like Kevin Malone from The Office than a nhl coach
I wonder if the Rangers will be interested to bring him aboard as an assistant. He helped coach the Capitals defense to a Stanley Cup only a couple of years ago. We happen to need a new "defensive coordinator." Seems like a natural fit.
Guy has been shown to be a repeat loser. Does not seem to me to be what the Rangers need, now or ever.
Reirdan's career as an assistant in Washington:
"2014-15: 2.43 goals against per game, 7th in the NHL
2015-16: 2.33 goals against per game, 2nd in the NHL
2016-17: 2.16 goals against per game, 1st in the NHL
2017-18: 2.90 goals against per game, 16th in the NHL
In those four seasons combined, Washington allowed 2.45 goals per game, lower than every team in the NHL but one. He was also in charge of the team's lethal power play."
Does Trotz' success in LI with Korn make you pause for a second regarding Reirdan's defensive ability?
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In this environment. It’s tough, teams lost all momentum with the long layoff.
But in Reirdons case - two straight first round exits and more importantly the guy looks more like Kevin Malone from The Office than a nhl coach
I wonder if the Rangers will be interested to bring him aboard as an assistant. He helped coach the Capitals defense to a Stanley Cup only a couple of years ago. We happen to need a new "defensive coordinator." Seems like a natural fit.
Guy has been shown to be a repeat loser. Does not seem to me to be what the Rangers need, now or ever.
Reirdan's career as an assistant in Washington:
"2014-15: 2.43 goals against per game, 7th in the NHL
2015-16: 2.33 goals against per game, 2nd in the NHL
2016-17: 2.16 goals against per game, 1st in the NHL
2017-18: 2.90 goals against per game, 16th in the NHL
In those four seasons combined, Washington allowed 2.45 goals per game, lower than every team in the NHL but one. He was also in charge of the team's lethal power play."
Does Trotz' success in LI with Korn make you pause for a second regarding Reirdan's defensive ability?
It does, yeah. IDK, maybe it's not a slam-dunk after all. The Capitals success could be attributed to Reirden or it could've been all Trotz.
Well no trade is imminent. I would assume we'll know what Henrik is going to do by the time of the Draft.
MAF asked him to delete it so he did, and I guess an agent is supposed to support his client, but this kind of thing creates a distraction and put unnecessary pressure on the player.
I hate both teams, but hate the Bruins more.
I think the Bruins win, but would rather the Lightning.
Specials: both teams have potentially lethal power plays. Stay out of the box.
Defense: Hedman, McDonagh Sergachev, Shattenkirk, Bogosian, and Cernak vs Chara, McAvoy, Carlo, Krug, Grzelcyk, and Clifton.
Both teams have deep D, but TBL stronger defensively. Krug and Grzelcyk can be pushed around in their D zone. TBL has to take advantage of the smaller Bruins D.
Goalie: Obviously Halak can be a starter, but he hasn't most of his career. He'll need to be on his game.
The forwards are obviously insanely skilled on both teams, so I'll call them a wash at 5v5, but no Stamkos could hurt TBL. He's not the elite player he once was, but still a team leader and solid two-way center.
Maybe he comes back later in the series. Not sure.
this is what you described?
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Penalty for what? How about for jamming the end of the stick in a corner crunch into the spine of the other player?
this is what you described? Looks like a soccer player - ( New Window )
It is. Did I exaggerate? Think he flopped?
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Penalty for what? How about for jamming the end of the stick in a corner crunch into the spine of the other player?
this is what you described? Looks like a soccer player - ( New Window )
It is. Did I exaggerate? Think he flopped?
It sure looked that way to me. Chara barely touched him.
and I hate the Bruins and feel like they regularly get all the breaks.
Bruins up 1 - 0 end of 1.
2 - 0 Bruins. Needs to stay out of the box against the Bruins.
15 left in the 2nd.
Same old Tampa Bay in the playoffs.
one of my keys to the game.
can't say they're getting any favors from the refs so far (like they usually do).
TBL needs a goal
A Bruins goal here may end this one (in the second period).
They are and it's pretty to see, but no scores!
Turn out the lights. it's over.
3-1. About time, Tampa Bay.
Turn out the lights. it's over.
Gorton was right in trading McDonagh when he did. He just received basically nothing. But McDonagh was going to sign a long-term, expensive extension in spite of the fact that he had a lot of tread on his tires.
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by McDonagh results in a goal.
Turn out the lights. it's over.
Gorton was right in trading McDonagh when he did. He just received basically nothing. But McDonagh was going to sign a long-term, expensive extension in spite of the fact that he had a lot of tread on his tires.
Seeing McDonagh plateau takes a little sting out of one of the worst trades ever.
Still could have used him on the Canadiens, and it doesn't take all the sting out, but watching him as a youngster I thought he'd be in the Norris conversation if his offense developed.
Coyle's (a Weymouth kid) deflection was kind of cool because cameras captured it so clearly. Often, it's so fast, so slight, and buried in traffic, harder to see. An art form.
Who did I predict? BOS vs LVG? Watching game 1's I stand behind that.
Tonight:
NYI vs PHI at 07:00 pm on NBCSN, if NYI play like round 1 and PHI plays like round 1, NYI makes quick work of the Flyers.
DAL vs COL at 09:45pm on NBCSN, DAL leads 1 - 0, fun game 1 and I think this will be a fun series
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to the Islanders, their fans, and especially Coach Trotz (who will always be one of my guys). Good luck in the next round.
Classy.
What's your thought on the Caps' showing? I think the attrition of roster departures post cup is evident. The bottom of the roster really misses guys like Beagle, Burakovsky, Connolly, etc.
I've always been a Kovy fan, but sad trombone for his performance.
Sorry for the delay, Dyb. The Caps performance was lousy no matter how you slice it. The performance of the blue line crew was terrible. Unacceptable level of turn overs, failure to clear the zone, failure to clear the crease, and leaving men unguarded. Game 1 loss was on Holtby with horrible play. There was no Samsonov as a backup because he played the fool with his ATV back home during the pause. Also can’t go 5 games and get goals from only 3 guys.
With all that, the Caps should have won Game 1, could have won Game 3 when Vrana had the breakaway in OT, and did win Game 4. The Caps really could have won the series, or at least made it more competitive. Credit to the Isles for making the most of their chances and clamping down when they needed to. They were the better team.
By now we all know that Rierden is gone. I may have given him one more year since this year has been so abnormal, but if the organization doesn’t think he’s the guy then it’s the right move. If Samsonov can recover from his injuries he should be the guy in goal and Holtby should be allowed to pursue other opportunities. If Samsonov can’t be there at the start of the next season then I’m not sure. I’m OK with most of the 4 lines, but they have lost depth (the guys you mentioned). The defense needs a lot of work.
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Calgary #Flames
injury updates, per GM Brad Treliving:
- Matthew Tkachuk was dealing with a concussion
- Rasmus Andersson was playing with a broken foot
- Sam Bennett tore a tricep in the WPG series. Played through it
If they keep it up PHI will have no answer.
When you dominate like this (12 - 3 in shots) you need to score more of your opponent comes back and steals the momentum
playing with fire though. Eventually one of those point shots will hit a skate, stick or catch a screen and find the back of the net.
Need to stop chasing in the zone, and limit the zone time.
2 - 0 NYI under 17 left in the game
I was hoping Kovalchuk scored because I feel like it would have been at least that long too.
but man, Kovy looked cooked and Reirden kept trotting him out on the power play.
And the Caps sent MTL a 3rd for Kovy in Feb. Ouch.
odd man rush, great pass by Barzal to Lee to put the NYI up 3 - 0. 11 min left in the game.
NYI (Quinnipiac alum Devon Toews) rims one around for the ENG to put the NYI up 4 - 0.
5 plus left in the game and maybe the first penalty of the game (or if not, there hasn't been many).
NYI (Quinnipiac alum Devon Toews) rims one around for the ENG to put the NYI up 4 - 0.
5 plus left in the game and maybe the first penalty of the game (or if not, there hasn't been many).
Philly had an interference early, but it really has been clean game
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NYI (Quinnipiac alum Devon Toews) rims one around for the ENG to put the NYI up 4 - 0.
5 plus left in the game and maybe the first penalty of the game (or if not, there hasn't been many).
Philly had an interference early, but it really has been clean game
And well officiated (for a change), I don't think they missed much.
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panicked and pulled Hart with 7+ min left down 3.
NYI (Quinnipiac alum Devon Toews) rims one around for the ENG to put the NYI up 4 - 0.
5 plus left in the game and maybe the first penalty of the game (or if not, there hasn't been many).
Philly had an interference early, but it really has been clean game
And well officiated (for a change), I don't think they missed much.
Wes McCauley and Eric Furlatt are the two most experienced referees in Toronto with Kevin Pollock injured.
NYI win 4 - 0.
I was hoping Kovalchuk scored because I feel like it would have been at least that long too.
but man, Kovy looked cooked and Reirden kept trotting him out on the power play.
And the Caps sent MTL a 3rd for Kovy in Feb. Ouch.
Ironically to my post they just showed a clip of Greene scoring a playoff goal 10 years ago, and I'm pretty sure Kovalchuk was on the ice for the goal.
Would have been nice for the broadcast to mention the goalie was pulled. Definitely was a great surprise to see
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Would have been nice for the broadcast to mention the goalie was pulled. Definitely was a great surprise to see
Yeah, they didn't say anything, but I noticed the extra attacker and could tell Toews knew what he was doing.
Hockey does need some better announcers though.
Kenny Albert is about the best they have here I think.
I like Doc Emmerich too, but he's losing a little bit from his fastball.
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Would have been nice for the broadcast to mention the goalie was pulled. Definitely was a great surprise to see
Yeah, they didn't say anything, but I noticed the extra attacker and could tell Toews knew what he was doing.
Hockey does need some better announcers though.
Kenny Albert is about the best they have here I think.
I like Doc Emmerich too, but he's losing a little bit from his fastball.
Maybe I am biased, but I miss Brendan Burke.
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panicked and pulled Hart with 7+ min left down 3.
Would have been nice for the broadcast to mention the goalie was pulled. Definitely was a great surprise to see
Yeah, they didn't say anything, but I noticed the extra attacker and could tell Toews knew what he was doing.
Hockey does need some better announcers though.
Kenny Albert is about the best they have here I think.
I like Doc Emmerich too, but he's losing a little bit from his fastball.
Maybe I am biased, but I miss Brendan Burke.
they would never let him do Isles. i think nbcsn has mostly had him do west coast games. i was so upset when howie left and brendan didnt do it for me at first, prob because of being such a howie fan, but now he is awesome. so mad the nhl does this.
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panicked and pulled Hart with 7+ min left down 3.
Would have been nice for the broadcast to mention the goalie was pulled. Definitely was a great surprise to see
Yeah, they didn't say anything, but I noticed the extra attacker and could tell Toews knew what he was doing.
Hockey does need some better announcers though.
Echoing the others, Brendan is great. Though I think the bigger issue is that they aren't in the arena, but using their own feeds? Unless that was just the regional broadcasts for the 1st round...
Maybe recency bias, but I would rather him than McDavid if I was starting a team
we had this discussion a few pages ago, lol.
Agree. MacKinnon goes before McDavid if I'm picking a team.
Stars tie it up (pending review)
Avs back to the man advantage.
so much skill in this game.
5 on 3 now for a min for the Avs
4 - 2 Stars.
No one in front of the net to move Lindell.
The NBA deserves credit too because they made a bubble strong enough to withstand a state that's been rapidly rising. All their technology stuff seemingly worked and even their fan cams in the games are kind of novel.
both leagues did a great job and ran circles around MLB - which is nuts because they are an outdoor, non contact sport who had other baseball leagues to model which should have made it a lot easier.
hopefully all of the leagues will learn enough operationally to help the NFL and CFB get through the fall.
Today's games
BOS vs TBL at 07:00pm on NBCSN, BOS leads 1 - 0
VAN vs LVG at 09:45pm on NBCSN, LVG leads 1 - 0
stifling and Varlamov was solid too.
typical Trotz team performance, when PHI had possession it was outside the dots, not many second chances, just a solid overall scheme.
4-0 is 4-0.
yeah, the 2nd period PHI dominated zone time, but not a lot of quality scoring chances, the Islanders are great about keeping the puck outside the danger areas.
Look at the shot map, they didn't have a ton of high danger chances.
Hard to see here, but just a handful of shot attempts between the dots.
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Is that real? I'm surprised you can trade now too.
I wonder what the return is, Kapanen is fast, but I think has underperformed so far.
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Is that real? I'm surprised you can trade now too.
I wonder what the return is, Kapanen is fast, but I think has underperformed so far.
Yes, non-playoff teams can trade. Actually, the Rangers and Islanders' last trade with each other was during the Playoffs. Jyri Niemi.
@Real_RobRossi
· 5m
Details for Penguins:
RW Kasperi Kapanen
D Jesper Lindgren
LW Pontus Aberg
Maples Leafs getting:
2020 Rd 1 pick (15 overall)
LW Evan Rodrigues
C Filip Hallander
D David Warsofsky
#Pens | @TheAthleticPGH | @TheAthleticNHL
please forgive any type
@iamhockey1
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Instant Analysis: Pittsburgh overpaid. First rounder for a soft third line player.
@iamhockey1
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Instant Analysis: Pittsburgh overpaid. First rounder for a soft third line player.
They also got Hallander back, who was apparently a top-3 prospect in the Penguins farm.
Very odd trade for Pittsburgh, but I'm not complaining. Fuck that team.
@iamhockey1
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Instant Analysis: Pittsburgh overpaid. First rounder for a soft third line player.
Imagine what Strome and Buchnevich could net!
I think it's a mistake, but they don't have much choice.
I think it's a mistake, but they don't have much choice.
I get why they are doing it, but it seems like an awfully high price to pay. That being said, they could be looking towards the expansion draft and were getting rid of players they would have to expose anyway or would have to trade other assets to retain.
In this draft, while I don't think it's very deep, the top 15 is like a normal top 10 because from 3 - 15 or so the players are mostly interchangeable.
SHoKTee
@akaRCN
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Jim Rutherford has now drafted Sami Kapanen, traded Sami Kapanen, drafted Kasperi Kapanen, traded Kasperi Kapanen, and traded for Kasperi Kapanen.
As well regarded as Hedman is, he is not great defensively and makes some ill-thought out pinches, this will hurt TBL.
BOS should win and move closer to back to back ECF.
It does get me to thinking though, if Kapanen gets a teams top 5 prospect and the #15 pick in the draft, I wonder what Max Domi would get back in a trade.
He's better than Kapanen.
Domi is a UFA and Kapanen has two years, but the gap between them is wide, so maybe Domi gets a top 10 pick.
I think he's gone, and I like him, but he doesn't really fit on MTL. He's redundant.
Again, trade value is not my forte, but I don't see it. Other than the two playoff runs (and I realize that may sound Eli Manning-ish), he's been very mediocre (or worse).
Difference with Eli is Murray has rings, but no MVPs, Murray was good, but not why they won.
Hockey does need some better announcers though.
Kenny Albert is about the best they have here I think.
I like Doc Emmerich too, but he's losing a little bit from his fastball.
Isn't he though! The traffic may be heavy in front, but he seems to have a sixth sense how to position himself (and his glove when need be) where the puck will exit the scrum.
On the other hand: Khudobin, I counted three, maybe five saves when he had no idea where the puck was and it just hits him in the chest protector or his mask, oh, thank you, then drops it and he cradles it then with his glove.
In general, it seems to be, with teams remaining, the keepers and their pads are just so huge (not so much Varlamov) that as long as they can kind of scoot on their knees hall hockey style they have a good chance to stop a shot, open areas of the net are small.
Shestyorkin is a real exception to the trend. And I'm biased: I loved the stand-up style of Vachon, the movement of Plante, even Glen Hall who was down on the ice more than most of his vintage was a small man compared to these behemoths. Another contrast, Giacomin, lithe and quick as his Cat Emile. Dryden was maybe the first who was outsized, and he was just big and tall, not as thick as these guys now. Red Wings' keeper of a decade ago, another example of small format. end of rant
other remaining goalies:
Ben Bishop: 6' 7" (reportedly skating)
Markstrom: 6' 6"
Lehner: 6' 4"/MAF 6' 2"
Hart: 6' 2"
Varlamov: 6' 2"
Vasilevsky: 6' 2"
Grubauer: 6' 1"/Francouz: 6'
And Rask was 6' 3"
Pierre McGuire on @JoeandEvan on Alexis Lafreniere:
“Is he a Connor McDavid? No. A Nathan MacKinnon? No. He’s not the kind of player who can take over games as a winger. But he’s a spectacular player and is going to be a huge part of the Rangers moving forward.”
Bruins up 1 - 0 (possible review?)
1 - 1
1 - 1
under review, might have been offsides. stupid rule.
to the broadcast, not in the rink.
Pierre McGuire on @JoeandEvan on Alexis Lafreniere:
“Is he a Connor McDavid? No. A Nathan MacKinnon? No. He’s not the kind of player who can take over games as a winger. But he’s a spectacular player and is going to be a huge part of the Rangers moving forward.”
Damn, I can’t believe he isn’t going to be one of the two best players in the game.
Doesn't matter, they lead 1 - 0
Doesn't matter, they lead 1 - 0
*so far* period is obviously not over
been waiting for it, so far no Tuukka hasn't hurt enough.
You have an ant problem. It's better than the rat problem one, but that's a low bar I guess.
Dekes Lehner - puts VAN up 3 - 1 with 1min+ left in the 2nd.
TBL vs BOS at 08:00PM on NBCSN, series tied at 1
COL vs DAL at 10;30pm on NBCSN, DAL leads series 2 - 0
BOS considering a change in net, Bruins may turn to recently extended Dan Vladar.
Vladar, 23, is a 2015 3rd round draft pick from Czech Republic. I don't think he has any NHL experience, but he was recently extended for 3 years (Halak is a UFA after the season, so Vladar could be the backup in 2021).
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to the broadcast, not in the rink.
Before that, the camera close-up following the scrum triggered by Marchand's whack at Vasilevskiy where one of TBL d-men had Marchand in a tight headlock and was whispering sweet nothings in Marchand's ear, with him seeming to nod affirmatively in response, was hilarious. He's then shown back on the bench after that shift, helmet-less, looking a tad chastened.
Didn't last long though.
I think the difference that I saw from Sunday night was Lightning commitment to forecheck and dig, dig, dig along the boards. It mattered.
McGuire, on Joe and Evan someone mentioned above (I listened to just a part before getting to the track): he was waxing ecstatic over the Isles, praising ownership, Lamoriello, Lou's son, and the move to sign Trotz. No question the signings of Greene and Pageaux have been huge. You'd think he was talking about the great Oilers teams or Isles of yore.
I think it's about money more than anything, I think TOR would prefer Lehner or Markstrom (or others) - maybe even Holtby, but not sure how the Kapenen trade helps them but generally I don't think they have a ton of cap space.
@iamhockey1
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Frederik Andersen has requested/ prefers to be traded as long as it works out for both sides. #LeafsForever
I think it's about money more than anything, I think TOR would prefer Lehner or Markstrom (or others) - maybe even Holtby, but not sure how the Kapenen trade helps them but generally I don't think they have a ton of cap space.
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@iamhockey1
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Frederik Andersen has requested/ prefers to be traded as long as it works out for both sides. #LeafsForever
Toronto isn't going to trade for Georgiev if he costs the same or more than what they get for Andersen. Not to mention with Campbell around I think they are looking more for someone like Lehner/Thomas Greiss-type who won't hurt you if they had to play everyday, but are better suited for platoon roles. I could see Carolina having interest in in Andersen at the right price as Reimer/Mrazek could be improved upon if Carolina wants to challenge in the playoffs. Not to mention they would actually play defense in front of him unlike Toronto (although they made progress under Keefe).
My assumption is that Georgiev will get an RFA deal maybe in the $2 - $3M range, not a $5M per year contract.
My assumption is that Georgiev will get an RFA deal maybe in the $2 - $3M range, not a $5M per year contract.
I am talking about capital. The Leafs are not going to trade Andersen for a 2nd only to give a 2nd or a 1st for Georgiev with Campbell around and the ability to just sign someone like Lehner or Greiss.
They already have $72M committed on the 2020-2021 cap with just 16 contracts.
They have almost no wings on their roster after Marner and Jonsson (one LW and one RW) and they're losing a bulk of their D (shitty D, but still) Ceci and Barrie are UFA's, Dermott is an RFA.
The whole reason they may find Georgiev attractive is he'd *only* cost draft picks (or prospects) and would land a reasonable RFA contract.
NEW YORK (August 26, 2020) -- The National Hockey League has sanctioned the Arizona Coyotes for violating the NHL's Combine Testing Policy during the 2019-20 season, directing the forfeiture of the Club’s 2nd-round pick in the 2020 NHL Draft and 1st-round pick in the 2021 NHL Draft.
The sanctions were announced by Commissioner Gary Bettman, who convened a hearing on the matter August 6 that included testimony from representatives of the Coyotes and the NHL. At the outset of the hearing, the Club acknowledged that it had violated the Policy by conducting physical testing on 2020 draft-eligible players prior to the Combine.
In reaching his decision, Commissioner Bettman outlined key reasons for the Policy’s prohibition on physical testing prior to the Combine: to ensure competitive fairness among Clubs with respect to evaluating and drafting prospects and to avoid subjecting prospects to repeated and duplicative testing procedures.
The sanctions were imposed under Article 6.3 of the NHL Constitution, which authorizes the Commissioner to impose discipline "if he determines . . . that any person . . . has either violated the Constitution, the By-Laws, or any other governing rule or regulation of the League, or has been or is guilty of conduct . . . detrimental to the League or the game of hockey."
Further, Article 6.3 empowers the Commissioner to deprive the offending Club of draft choices "if the conduct in question affects the competitive aspects of the game."
"While the Combine Testing Policy Memoranda reference a fine of “no less than $250,000 for each violation” of the Policy, I exercise my discretion to impose the aforementioned discipline—which I consider to be more appropriate given the specific circumstances of this case," said Commissioner Bettman.
"As for the Club personnel who participated in, or may have contributed to, the Club’s violation of the Policy, I have decided that no discipline shall be imposed on these individuals. While I conclude that certain Club personnel acted in a grossly negligent manner at best, which was conceded by the Club, I ultimately conclude that the record does not establish—to a standard with which I am comfortable—that those individuals engaged in intentional wrongdoing, as opposed to grossly negligent behavior."
The NHL will not comment further on this matter.
If they re-sign Hall they don't pick before the 4th round for the next two drafts.
@CapFriendly
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As a result of today's sanctions by the league on the Arizona #Coyotes, the club now finds itself without a 1st, 2nd or 3rd RD pick in the 2020 draft
They also do not have a 1st or 3rd in 2021
IF they resign Hall, they will not have a 1st or 2nd in 2021
https://capfriendly.com/teams/coyotes
I forgot it even started.
WTF?
If they re-sign Hall they don't pick before the 4th round for the next two drafts.
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@CapFriendly
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As a result of today's sanctions by the league on the Arizona #Coyotes, the club now finds itself without a 1st, 2nd or 3rd RD pick in the 2020 draft
They also do not have a 1st or 3rd in 2021
IF they resign Hall, they will not have a 1st or 2nd in 2021
https://capfriendly.com/teams/coyotes
I'd try to trade the Carolina pick for Chychrun. I'd also look into getting Dvorak and Schmaltz. Keller would probably cost too much.
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Varlamov finally had a stinker but at least it was semi-good timing early on in the first half of a back to back.
90 seconds of PP to start the 3rd, NYI have to get some momentum on the forecheck because if they can do that they will put the pressure on the flyers to bunker in and defend the lead which is never easy to do. Can't make it easy on them.
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NEW YORK (August 26, 2020) -- The National Hockey League has sanctioned the Arizona Coyotes for violating the NHL's Combine Testing Policy during the 2019-20 season, directing the forfeiture of the Club’s 2nd-round pick in the 2020 NHL Draft and 1st-round pick in the 2021 NHL Draft.
The sanctions were announced by Commissioner Gary Bettman, who convened a hearing on the matter August 6 that included testimony from representatives of the Coyotes and the NHL. At the outset of the hearing, the Club acknowledged that it had violated the Policy by conducting physical testing on 2020 draft-eligible players prior to the Combine.
In reaching his decision, Commissioner Bettman outlined key reasons for the Policy’s prohibition on physical testing prior to the Combine: to ensure competitive fairness among Clubs with respect to evaluating and drafting prospects and to avoid subjecting prospects to repeated and duplicative testing procedures.
The sanctions were imposed under Article 6.3 of the NHL Constitution, which authorizes the Commissioner to impose discipline "if he determines . . . that any person . . . has either violated the Constitution, the By-Laws, or any other governing rule or regulation of the League, or has been or is guilty of conduct . . . detrimental to the League or the game of hockey."
Further, Article 6.3 empowers the Commissioner to deprive the offending Club of draft choices "if the conduct in question affects the competitive aspects of the game."
"While the Combine Testing Policy Memoranda reference a fine of “no less than $250,000 for each violation” of the Policy, I exercise my discretion to impose the aforementioned discipline—which I consider to be more appropriate given the specific circumstances of this case," said Commissioner Bettman.
"As for the Club personnel who participated in, or may have contributed to, the Club’s violation of the Policy, I have decided that no discipline shall be imposed on these individuals. While I conclude that certain Club personnel acted in a grossly negligent manner at best, which was conceded by the Club, I ultimately conclude that the record does not establish—to a standard with which I am comfortable—that those individuals engaged in intentional wrongdoing, as opposed to grossly negligent behavior."
The NHL will not comment further on this matter.
What the hell did they possibly do?
Sorry dude
Need Varmalov to be better tomorrow night.
Need Varmalov to be better tomorrow night.
Does Varlamov even get the nod? Greiss played well for you guys. 20 saves in limited action.
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but I'm not too down. I'm not impressed with what I've seen of Philly. If Isles keep coming at them they'll win this series.
Need Varmalov to be better tomorrow night.
Does Varlamov even get the nod? Greiss played well for you guys. 20 saves in limited action.
I definitely think so. He only played one period today and has been lights out all playoffs. Greiss didn't exactly face a ton of tough looks.
If he has another awful game tomorrow night, the who knows for Game 4.
Yanks lost both softball / little league games (6-7 innings) already... no worries they get a lot more of these "DHs" in the weekends and weeks ahead.
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Watch the VP et all babble at the RNC instead? I don't think so. Yankees at Braves? Could be. This game just has to be so over.
Yanks lost both softball / little league games (6-7 innings) already... no worries they get a lot more of these "DHs" in the weekends and weeks ahead.
Thanks. Tragic outcome for what was supposed to be an all-time great team. It isn't.
In a sea (or small crowd) of Bruins fans, seeing them look listless and ineffective vs a soft TBL team was awesome.
And The Makar and Mackinnon show in Edmonton was great. I love that series, so much skill and the Stars have grit too.
VAN vs LVG at 09:45pm on NBCSN, series tied at 1
if they play. I read the NHLPA is pressuring the teams to join other sports and not play. Not sure to what end, but bears watching.
VAN vs LVG at 09:45pm on NBCSN, series tied at 1
if they play. I read the NHLPA is pressuring the teams to join other sports and not play. Not sure to what end, but bears watching.
Sounds like they are leaning toward not playing tonight. Bigger things going on here obviously, but I'd much prefer the Isles play tonight as I had plans tomorrow night.
I am not someone who should be the voice on this issue, but why can't they do both? Why can't you shine the light and play hockey? Not sure why it needs to be one or the other.
Akim Aliu
@Dreamer_Aliu78
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We the @TheOfficialHDA
have formally requested the @NHL
to suspend all playoff games today. We strongly feel this sends a clear message that human rights take priority over sports.
Akim Aliu
@Dreamer_Aliu78
What’s more important, shining a light on social justice, police reform and inequalities of the black and brown community or playing hockey games that generate revenue for a billion dollar industry? This decision should be an easy one....come on now y’all! It’s time to wake up!!!
So they’ll probably resume the normal schedule? Isles game 4 just becomes game 3 and they’ll tack on a game 7 (if necessary).
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So they’ll probably resume the normal schedule? Isles game 4 just becomes game 3 and they’ll tack on a game 7 (if necessary).
I imagine all 4 series will go Saturday for a fun quadruple-header, no? After that, who knows. Don't love the back-to-backs in the playoffs but I do think these players want to get back to their families and operating a bubble is very expensive.
@jessi_pierce
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The #NHL plans to resume play tomorrow (Saturday) with game times announced as follows:
• Game 4 #Bruins vs #tblightning at 11 a.m. CT
• Game 3 #NYI vs #Flyers at 6 p.m. CT
• Game 3 #Canucks vs #VGK at 8:45 p.m. CT
Conspiracy
Toronto is on EDT, so why CT? To split the difference between Toronto and Edmonton?
Toronto is on EDT, so why CT? To split the difference between Toronto and Edmonton?
the twitter user who reported it probably lives in the central time zone.
On top of their formal request for the National Hockey League to suspend all playoff games last night, Rick Westhead, a senior correspondent for TSN, reports the HDA (Hockey Diversity Alliance) has a number of other demands.
Hockey Diversity Alliance, an association made up of seven players whose stated purpose is to eradicate systemic racism and intolerance in hockey, have also revealed these demands:
Team owners offer NHL rinks to be used as polling stations for the upcoming US election
NHL should be fully transparent about “all information related to the policies, targets and commitments” related to the hiring of employees who are visible minorities.
NHL to commit to funding $100 million dollars over 10 years to battle "systemic racism."
NHL make a statement by temporarily changing the blue line to black.
NHL to run PSAs for the HDA during the playoffs this summer.
NHL to have on-ice presence of the HDA logo.
HDA has also proposed “Black out” warm up jerseys to help build awareness of their organization and its agenda. Later to be auctioned off to raise money for their cause.
Wouldn’t it make offsides harder to call if they turned it black?
I find collaboration more likely to yield better results than demands.
Yeah, the blue line is the only one I have a philosophical issue with it, plus I don't see it having any social justice impact at all (though that's true for me with all of these), changing the blue line to black could endanger players.
the suggestion was temporary, so if it's an exhibition game or something, still a bad idea, but I doubt it harms anything.
In all seriousness, uhh, isn't this going to raise some issue with offsides calls because the line will be the same color as the puck?
You'll still be able to see if skates are on sides
black puck, black blue line, unnecessary safety risk.
but whatever, I don't care strongly about it, just don't like being "demanded" to do it.
that's not social justice or influencing change, it's bullying by the diversity council (or whatever they're called) and caving by the league, accomplishing nothing but getting the activists off your back.
We're beyond symbolic gestures
(I guess the symbol on the ice is also symbolic, but nobody looks at logos when watching hockey.)
the rest IMO would be kowtowing to the mob.
And in reality based on everything I've read and experienced, the NHL to fix their own house, they need a grass roots effort, mostly aimed at weeding out the assholes at the lower levels (youth hockey through high school/juniors) that allow racism, bullying, etc to exist and fester, then it will fix things as kids and coaches move through the system.
I've encountered some serious assholes (racists, sexists, homophobes, bullies, etc.) in hockey from coaches to refs to parents to program owners and program officials - including USA hockey (though they are definitely the exception, not the rule, no denying they exist and are allowed to exist).
fix the game first, become a role model sport, IMO don't try to fix society (first) - it's biting off more than they can chew and they have some fixable issues of their own.
The NHL does set a tone for how the sport is taught and received.
Ready! Question: is noon (local time) the earliest ever for an NHL game?
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Ready! Question: is noon (local time) the earliest ever for an NHL game?
In the last round, Carolina played Boston at 11am. They were supposed to play at 8 the night before but the Columbus Tampa game went 5 OT so they had to be bumped.
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Tampa Bay vs Boston kicks it off (again) at noon!
Ready! Question: is noon (local time) the earliest ever for an NHL game?
In the last round, Carolina played Boston at 11am. They were supposed to play at 8 the night before but the Columbus Tampa game went 5 OT so they had to be bumped.
Remarkable. Sort of hockey for brunch. How about for breakfast?
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Tampa Bay vs Boston kicks it off (again) at noon!
Ready! Question: is noon (local time) the earliest ever for an NHL game?
In the last round, Carolina played Boston at 11am. They were supposed to play at 8 the night before but the Columbus Tampa game went 5 OT so they had to be bumped.
Remarkable. Sort of hockey for brunch. How about for breakfast?
Lol imagine living on the west coast. I'm sure fans in Europe love it
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Remarkable. Sort of hockey for brunch. How about for breakfast?
Lol imagine living on the west coast. I'm sure fans in Europe love it
Tea,crumpets, and NHL hockey. What could be wrong with that?
I was wrong.
Finally!
I don't know, Archie. Tampa Bay looks good.
Then they'll get swept in the ECF by the Flyers/Islanders winner.
Three in a row versus TB? Now? Not going to happen.
If not for goaltending with Rask out, Boston is probably the strongest club in the East so I would love them to lose. They are the only other East time like the Islanders that can roll all 4 lines against you and physically dominate. The difference is, unlike the Islanders, the Bruins have high end scoring so you don’t have to worry that allowing 3 goals is automatic loss as sometimes pucks bounce strangely.
The penalty on Anders Lee could have been a late turning point, but Isles hung on. Seeing 6 on 4 was kind of wild. Aside from getting pulled game before, I thought Varlamov was consistently shaky in his decisions with the puck when he was behind his own net, tentative and often wrong.
Don't know if anyone else feels this way--and it hasn't shown up that much on the score sheet--but I think Kevin Hayes has been playing really strong two-way hockey, positionally sound and active in playmaking and checking. He stands out to me among the Flyers. But they've clearly lost a lot of their mojo.
TB in a strong position, but I'll believe they're home free vs the Bruins when it happens. They have kept the games somewhat open (don't recall who said it above), I'm still a bit skeptical.
COL vs DAL at 06:00pm on NBCSN, DAL leads 2 - 1
PHI vs NYI at 08:00pm on NBC, NYI leads 2 - 1
VAN vs LVG at 10:30pm on NBCSN, LVG leads 2 - 1
the 10:30 games are kicking my ass, it's worse than MNF.
for that reason I hope the finals are in TOR and involve DAL (who I think is the easternmost team left from the west)
COL vs DAL at 06:00pm on NBCSN, DAL leads 2 - 1
PHI vs NYI at 08:00pm on NBC, NYI leads 2 - 1
VAN vs LVG at 10:30pm on NBCSN, LVG leads 2 - 1
the 10:30 games are kicking my ass, it's worse than MNF.
for that reason I hope the finals are in TOR and involve DAL (who I think is the easternmost team left from the west)
They mentioned last night during the Isles game that after this round, all teams head to Edmonton for the conference finals and stanley cup.
I hope they don't mess the ending up and have all the games at like 9/10pm
DAL and COL in a good game in the 3rd (5 - 3 DAL lead).
I'm not sad about it, but looked avoidable by Clutterback and kind almost knee on knee where he could have injured himself.
Losing Grubauer (who isn't great IMO in his own right) hurts more when your backup is Francouz
Highlights the need for a quality backup, it's not like football where your backup QB ideally never plays, backup goalies are critical.
nice shot.
I saw that. Was he high?
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that giveaway by Makar was ugly - to lead to the Stars 5th goal (I switched to NYI vs PHI) and it hurts more too b/c the Avs cut the lead to 5 - 4 with a couple seconds left.
I saw that. Was he high?
no clue what he ws thinking - almost looked like wanted to pass it to his goalie.
thank you, thought it was voracek - all those flyers players who look like the mascot blend together for me.
hope so, still 2nd period though
So dumb to have all these late games on a Sunday
uncharacteristic period for them - rarely have I seen them these playoffs get dominated in zone time and chances for long stretches.
Greiss playing well keeps it tied.
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look really slow tonight.
uncharacteristic period for them - rarely have I seen them these playoffs get dominated in zone time and chances for long stretches.
Greiss playing well keeps it tied.
This series is like my kid playing xbox with the goalie stopping initial shots and then it trickles in. It’s happened 3 times now in two days. Flyers are not in good shape now. - Giroux makes Rick Nash look like Reggie Jackson this time of year. Completely invisible.
Greiss made some incredible saves that changed the course of the game too. Capitals have to feel great they let Trotz go in Ovechkins last few years. Smart.
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on 1, Nelson again, great feed from Beauvilier on the backhand.
Greiss made some incredible saves that changed the course of the game too. Capitals have to feel great they let Trotz go in Ovechkins last few years. Smart.
Yep, funny how it happens like that often. crazy save at one end (Greiss on Koneckny) that would have tied it, but no goal the other way.
game changing play.
Beau had a nice back kick pass to Nelson on the break. Bailey had the great pass back for the goal
People talk about how great a series Hayes has had, and people probably know I don't like him, but he's playing his usual game.
solid at times - two way game - missing breakways, empty nets, and over-passing.
Hayes leads the Flyers with 9 points, but for reference - I think that's the lowest leader of any team in the 2nd round. By a lot.
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on 1, Nelson again, great feed from Beauvilier on the backhand.
Beau had a nice back kick pass to Nelson on the break. Bailey had the great pass back for the goal
thanks, I have the sound muted. That was a great 2 on 1.
Flyers, cut the lead to 1 with just over a min left.
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The #NYI are now 10-0 in the playoffs when allowing 2 goals against or fewer. They have shut down the Panthers, Capitals and now the Flyers. It's really impressive what they are doing right now
People talk about how great a series Hayes has had, and people probably know I don't like him, but he's playing his usual game.
solid at times - two way game - missing breakways, empty nets, and over-passing.
Hayes leads the Flyers with 9 points, but for reference - I think that's the lowest leader of any team in the 2nd round. By a lot.
All good but Giroux has I think 1 goal in 26 games now. No point in paying that guy 8.25 mil a year. Hayes has at least shown something this year and with the rangers in the past this time of year. I enjoy seeing flyers suffer so all good but Giroux in particular should be playing for his career or at least next paycheck during a pandemic when future contacts are uncertain on tuesday. He’s completely invisible.
but otherwise agree.
Elias Pettersson is so good, wires one on the PP to tie it off the feed from JT Miller.
1 - 1 LVG and VAN 7 left in the 1st.
As much as I like Quinn Hughes - that play showed the "price" you have to accept if you have a guy like Hughes on your blue line.
today's game:
BOS vs TBL at 07:00pm on NBCSN, TBL leads 3 - 1
DAL vs COL at 09:45pm on NBCSN, DAL leads 3 - 1
Funny thing is what he describes is how MTL played - just short on talent.
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It's honestly the greatest feeling in the world to be a fan of a team with a great coach. I feel like I'm watching a team get the most out of their ability and play to the best of their potential and then after the game yesterday Trotz said it was their worst in the bubble. He is generally far from hyperbolic and typically honest in his assessments of the team so he take him at his word because they did get dominated and bailed out by Greiss a lot of the game, but still impressive discipline to stay grounded like that when the team is 1 win away from their best playoff run in almost 4 decades.
Greiss was very good, especially in the 2nd (?) period when PHI was controlling the play.
But Varlamov has been good too.
I'd stick with him.
You figure in the 4-3 OT loss and 3-1 loss Saturday, Rask could have been a difference maker.
While Halek has done well some games, he's let in some softies............but being a veteran I think he'll up his game too.
Having said that, I think the layoff has helped the Bolts and they right now are clearly the better team.
Bruins have never come back down in a series 3-1 in their extensive playoff history.
and then he tried to fake an injury after.
and I don't even blame Chara, the high stick was incidental (like most of them), but I've been there. You realize you hurt someone, on an incidental play like that, and you think maybe if I'm hurt too the ref won't call it. It never works and you feel dirty getting up and skating to the box.
I played forward until junior year in high school then I was moved to D.
after tip it goes top shelf. No chance for Halak.
TBL up 1 - 0
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Where is the Bruins offense? Boston hasn't scored an even strength goal since 3rd period of Game 2.
Hutchinson starting in net for COL, I would have made this switch in game 2 or whenever Grubauer went out.
TBL up 2 - 1.
I don't remember players being this good at tipping pucks until the past couple years.
tie game 2 min + left in the game.
COL up 5 - 0 with 5 left in the first.
Cut the Stars series lead to 3 - 2.
Two potential close out games tonight:
NYI vs PHI at 07:00pm on NBCSN, NYI up 3 - 1
VAN vs LVG at 09:45pm on NBCSN, LVG up 3 - 1
The deflections have been amazing: TB getting any piece of the stick on the puck, blade or shaft, and it found its loopy, floppy way over Halak's shoulder.
On the sequences leading to Bruins' tying goal in the 3rd, culminating with Sergechev's abysmal attempt to clear, there were at least two and probably three instances when TB cleared from their own end/own side of center ice and there was a legit foot race between a Bruins' defender and TB forward, at least twice when I saw TB equal or better odds to make first touch.
I get that officials are instructed to call icing proactively to avoid serious injury with end board hits trying to reach the puck first, but to call the icings when they did in a one-goal, elimination game, Period 3--in each case giving the Bruins a face-off in the TB end, I thought officials should have let the foot race go. Anyone else see it that way? No mention from Doc.
McAvoy probably concussed and fought his way back on ice? He was a big factor in 2019 SCP, burst on the scene, 'nother MA boy I think.
No Kucherov, and no explanation. Makes TBL win more impressive. No Stamkos, no Kucherov, no problem. only Rask missing for BOS.
I thought McAvoy was probably out getting checked out (if they have concussion spotters in the bubble), and returned. I definitely thought he'd be feeling that for a while.
My daughter is #73 because of McAvoy, we met him (and many other Bruins) at a fundraiser and he commented on my Giants shirt and signed my daughters McAvoy jersey. I told him not to change numbers. lol. Seems like a good guy and a hell of a hockey player.
I'm terrible at predicting trades, but Domi would be a great fit in NY. Top 6 F, can play C or W (better at W) and can play all specials units. even with his small size can scrap/play physical. Also sometimes prone to a dumb penalty.
If he gets moved (as speculated) I think blue line help would be the habs goal (TDA maybe - RFA for RFA plus a pick from the Rangers I think). But like I said - not my forte.
I do like Max though, and would like to keep him, but they're talking about Domi or Danault being traded. Danault is an underrated defense-first center.
Also, I think Chara and Krug will move on and the B's could probably use another defenseman.......although they do have some guys that could step in.
And then there's the question of Rask and whether 2021 would be his last..............
Also, I think Chara and Krug will move on and the B's could probably use another defenseman.......although they do have some guys that could step in.
And then there's the question of Rask and whether 2021 would be his last..............
I've read Rask is a goner. I've read Holtby/Halak as a possible tandem.
Chara is likely done IMO and I agree Krug will get more to go elsewhere, so is likely gone too.
Taylor Hall is available, and he's the top UFA by far.
Other forwards (UFA only): Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Tyler Toffoli, Dadonov, Mike Hoffman, Wayne Simmonds, Alex Galchenyuk, Ryan Callahan, Mikael Granlund, Namestnikov, Sheary, Janmark
Not so familiar with Domi but McAvoy is exactly the type of player NYR need, glue, can create, and is responsible on d. If Domi is an analogue, I'd be for it.
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...who are Top 6 forwards avaiable?
Also, I think Chara and Krug will move on and the B's could probably use another defenseman.......although they do have some guys that could step in.
And then there's the question of Rask and whether 2021 would be his last..............
I've read Rask is a goner. I've read Holtby/Halak as a possible tandem.
Chara is likely done IMO and I agree Krug will get more to go elsewhere, so is likely gone too.
Taylor Hall is available, and he's the top UFA by far.
Other forwards (UFA only): Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Tyler Toffoli, Dadonov, Mike Hoffman, Wayne Simmonds, Alex Galchenyuk, Ryan Callahan, Mikael Granlund, Namestnikov, Sheary, Janmark
Ryan Callahan?
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My daughter is #73 because of McAvoy, we met him (and many other Bruins) at a fundraiser and he commented on my Giants shirt and signed my daughters McAvoy jersey. I told him not to change numbers. lol. Seems like a good guy and a hell of a hockey player.
Is that your daughter in the foreground of that pic? Neat closeup.
Not so familiar with Domi but McAvoy is exactly the type of player NYR need, glue, can create, and is responsible on d. If Domi is an analogue, I'd be for it.
All you can see is my daughter's hair - she is holding the McAvoy jersey.
Yeah, I'd love McAvoy on the Habs too - such a great young player, solid two-way D and I think the Habs may have something close with Romanov.
Here is my daughter with Matt Grzelcyk - he signed a puck in her hand (hard to see). She got to meet Krug, Pastrnak, and more Bruins, plus guys like Gronkowski and Edelman, and a few more Boston sports celebrities. All very accommodating and friendly - to everyone, but I didn't see any adults trying to get autographs - and my daughter had never gotten any autographs before this event (and I'm not an autograph guy). so it was a thrill for her just to meet the players.
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...who are Top 6 forwards avaiable?
Also, I think Chara and Krug will move on and the B's could probably use another defenseman.......although they do have some guys that could step in.
And then there's the question of Rask and whether 2021 would be his last..............
I've read Rask is a goner. I've read Holtby/Halak as a possible tandem.
Chara is likely done IMO and I agree Krug will get more to go elsewhere, so is likely gone too.
Taylor Hall is available, and he's the top UFA by far.
Other forwards (UFA only): Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Tyler Toffoli, Dadonov, Mike Hoffman, Wayne Simmonds, Alex Galchenyuk, Ryan Callahan, Mikael Granlund, Namestnikov, Sheary, Janmark
Ryan Callahan?
technically a UFA, yes. though I think he'll retire, he had to stay on a roster to get paid.
PJ - interesting about Rask. Holtby huh? Well I guess if you can't beat him, join him! Is the Rask rumors about him just ready to retire, or the Bruins upset w/ him. Seem the B's supported him (esp with it being something with is daughter).
Pretty cools pics of your daughter with the players. Charlie Mac is fast becoming my fav player. He got some skills and likes to bang........but I am wondering why many Bruins fans think he can't be the QB on the PP (to replace Krug).
He nearly won the game in the first OT i think with a dazzling move thru the middle with a backhand.....
I don't know the whole story, but what I've read from beat writers/bloggers is this isn't the first time Tuukka "let the team down" - whatever that even means.
McAvoy can absolutely be a PP QB. But I think Grzelcyk may be better. I would not keep Krug just because of his power play skills. I think you'll probably see McAvoy on the power play next year. With a player like him though, who logs so many minutes my approach would be to find ways to rest him, so keeping him off PP (at least off unit 1) would be my goal. Especially if he's on PK1.
I don't know the whole story, but what I've read from beat writers/bloggers is this isn't the first time Tuukka "let the team down" - whatever that even means.
McAvoy can absolutely be a PP QB. But I think Grzelcyk may be better. I would not keep Krug just because of his power play skills. I think you'll probably see McAvoy on the power play next year. With a player like him though, who logs so many minutes my approach would be to find ways to rest him, so keeping him off PP (at least off unit 1) would be my goal. Especially if he's on PK1.
Well Rask has lost two Stanely Cups as a starting goalie. And he was the tender when they blew a 3-0 lead to Philly.
But the one I'll remember is they were playing Ottawa (bad team) last game of season, and needed to win and have the Rangers lose to Detroit (bad team too). Rangers lost, but Bruins lost brutally to Ottawa and Rask didn't play because he was "sick". Missed the playoffs.
Rask carried the team last year, but I felt in Game 7 he didn't stand tall like he had the throughout. Not his fault entirely, but being a goaltender is like being a QB.
My Bruins fans friends bring it up all the time, still no clue what he was thinking, game changing play right there. In a game 7.
Hard to blame anyone really, STL played well, but plays like that from Marchand really hurt.
My Bruins fans friends bring it up all the time, still no clue what he was thinking, game changing play right there. In a game 7.
Hard to blame anyone really, STL played well, but plays like that from Marchand really hurt.
STL was obvious a team of destiny with the goaltender and all, and they played well. You don't get there by not playing well.
Rask was having a playoff where the bad change happens...and he still comes up big. But didn't.........
Bruins lost 3 of 4 at home, so really on excuses. And the first game they trailed 2-0 in the second period.
Fun team to watch. Happy for the Isles fans
AV losing a lead late in the game? YOU DON'T SAY
It was right after they called a really light penalty on Martin in OT a few minutes earlier. Either call it by the book for both sides or let them play. Can’t do it one way only.
Isles need to hope Barzal is ok. If he can’t come back, then this is going to be a challenge to close out.
They lost Game 2 in similar fashion and proceeded to win Games 3 & 4.
VAN vs LVG tied up at 1. Goals like 20 seconds apart.
Shea Theodore just sick move from the point dekes a couple players then beats Demko top shelf. I'm still unclear why ANA traded him to LVG so they would take Stoner. I forget if Stoner had a bad contract, but at 21 I have to believe Theodore would have been worth more elsewhere.
Brock Boeser answered like 20 seconds later.
Vegas may physically be the biggest NHL team ever.
out of their 4 lines and 6 D and 2 G, there are 2 players under 6 feet. Marchessault and Cousins (and they acquired Cousins from MTL at the deadline). Gives teams fits to play against, it's cool to see a GM have a philosophy, know what he wants, and build a team. I think the expansion draft was more expansion team favorable than the prior ones (Tampa? Ottawa? I forget who was the last ones), but I also thought the Vegas team was going to be horseshit. I felt like they had 4 3rd lines (but solid D and MAF). It worked, I was wrong.
Now the team barely even resembles year 1, with players like Stone, Paccioretty, Stastny, Martinez, Lehner, etc.
oh I am. I have seen an injury to an Isles star in the playoffs during seasons I thought we were good enough to go far(turgeon and peca) i hope this isnt similar with barzal.
VAN holds off LVG, Demko was great.
3 - 2, LVG lead.
It’s the NHL playoffs and there’s a game 6 on Thursday night. If your team is still alive and you’re not at least a bit nervous then you don’t have a pulse.
COL vs DAL at 08:00pm on NBCSN, DAL leads 3 - 2.
fun series to watch, so much skill. And DAL adds some grit.
COL vs DAL at 08:00pm on NBCSN, DAL leads 3 - 2.
fun series to watch, so much skill. And DAL adds some grit.
At least it starts a reasonable time.
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today's game
COL vs DAL at 08:00pm on NBCSN, DAL leads 3 - 2.
fun series to watch, so much skill. And DAL adds some grit.
At least it starts a reasonable time.
and it figures I'm going to miss it. We have practice again tonight. Another two hours on the ice, 7:40 - 10:10 - with a 30 min break in the middle.
The Canadiens acquired Jake Allen and a 2022 7th round pick from the Blues in exchange for a 2020 3rd round and 7th round pick.
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(or this means the Blues feel they got a really good deal, lol)
this is Blues GM comments on Jake Allen.
Would a 1pm, 3pm or 7-8pm start be most likely on a Saturday?
Would a 1pm, 3pm or 7-8pm start be most likely on a Saturday?
7/8 IMO - only game of the day.
I thought this same thing in 2012 with the Devils. I thought no way were the Devils were the better team than the Rangers were and it was in the bag.
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I'd be nervous about this series if I were an Islander fan
It’s the NHL playoffs and there’s a game 6 on Thursday night. If your team is still alive and you’re not at least a bit nervous then you don’t have a pulse.
Oh with the generic sports fan talk.
There have been plenty of times where a team survived an elimination game and I thought nothing. I'm just rolling with my pick here and decided from what I saw in the last game that the Flyers are not dead in the water.
Hey Claude Giroux finally performed when the rubber met the road and you can quote me for that, Billy Simonson.
Will New York once again choke on the big fat sausage against Philadelphia?
At last we get a game 7.
Tonight - potential handshakes in both games:
PHI vs NYI at 07:00pm on NBCSN, NYI lead 3 - 2, Barzal and Couturier both listed as questionable - both would be big losses.
VAN vs LVG qt 09:45pm on NBCSN, LVG leads 3 - 2
no offense to any fans, nothing personal, but I'm rooting for game 7's.
Flyers missing Couturier will really hurt.......plays both ends of the ice and great faceoff guy.
I can see them trading Tyler Johnson (with a pick/prospect) in a cap relief move. Or Palat, Killorn, or Gourde - they're pretty interchangeable IMO.
The bigger issue is what will the cap be - if it goes down, a lot of teams will be f-ed.
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2 - 1 3 min left in the 1st.
Shot from the point into the pads, 3 on 2 passed to the trailer (Martin) who shoots it off a D into the net.
2 - 2, 18:30 left in the 2nd.
NYI to the PP
3 - 2 NYI
yeah, no idea why he challenged that and if there is going to be a challenge I don't mind a penalty if you're wrong. Late in games coaches used to use challenges like a time out.
3 - 3 6+ left in the second.
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Doesn't he always shit the bed when it matters most?
Laughton gets behind the D, nice deke, to tie it up.
4 - 4 halfway through the 3rd.
good game.
Could be game.
Oh well... we need to finally bury one in OT tonight
That said, it would be cool to see Lindblom score the OT winner.
unfortunately. I hate it, but they call it all the time every game.
they haven't scored a PP goal all series.
VAN early lead in EDM over LVG, 1 - 0
"How was your fish?"
Demko??
Flyers win. Game 7. Saturday.
We have a game 7.
Demko??
Flyers win. Game 7. Saturday.
From Boston College, American kid (24), once a highly regarded prospect, now getting his chance.
Thought the team played a great game tonight. Bad goaltending and a bad break in OT sunk em.
Or a higher score. Made up for that miss Hayes had earlier.
48 shot playoff shutout in his first playoffs.
96 shots faced, 95 saves. That .990 save percent and 0.47 GAA might be best of all time for a player with 5 and a 1/2 periods played. And that's the rub, SSS - so hopefully people pump the brakes a little. He's carrying his team though and we as fans get a game 7 because of it.
Today/tonight, there will be handshakes. Twice.
COL vs DAL at 04:00pm on USA
VAN vs LVG at 08:00pm on NBCSN
My prediction is DAL and LVG - it's hard to win 3 in a row, but my hope is for the opposite though watching Heiskanen is fun, watching MacKinnon and Makar is more fun. and in the other game I hate LVG for no good reason.
Sure, of course, but that was never the debate. In retrospect, Tkachuk was the right pick. The debate was between Zadina, Tkachuk and Kotkainemi and for now I like the way it happened. Adding in Hughes would be like saying in 2011 instead of Beaulieu at 17 the Canadiens should have taken Kucherov (who didn't go until pick 58.
After Dahlin and Svechnikov most people knew there was no consensus.
And Kotkaniemi didn't have a great sophomore season, he was their 2nd best player in the playoffs (after Suzuki), so I'll take it, but can always second guess drafts.
but to be thorough, this series has highlighted both the insane skill of Quinn Hughes and also the negative aspect of 5' 10" 170 pound defenseman.
I think the NHL should have spread the games sevens out in the west. We are a little ahead of schedule, if I recall, why not give the teams some extra rest?
I think the NHL should have spread the games sevens out in the west. We are a little ahead of schedule, if I recall, why not give the teams some extra rest?
Brett - agreed on the Flyers (haven't watched the other series).
I think it's going to be difficult for Philly to win three in a row if the play continues in the Islanders' direction.
Last night a bad end of PP and broken stick contributed to 2 goals.
Last night the Flyers had 4 goals on less than 18 shots....c'mon, unacceptable.
Do the Islanders consider a goalie change (I am not sure how they use their goalies)...............????
I think the NHL should have spread the games sevens out in the west. We are a little ahead of schedule, if I recall, why not give the teams some extra rest?
If I were a fan of either team I'd agree with you - better rested players would mean better hockey, but as a fan in general I don't care if they play every day. lol.
these guys had 4 and a half months to rest.
Varlamov has been shaky since the shutout streak broke. Greiss was lights out in his 1 start. I have never been a Greiss fan but he was so good in that game I'd have considered riding with him.
It's a game 7 and anything can happen, but if they can come out like they did yesterday you have to like their chances. Hart absolutely stole that one.
Come on OT.
Nothing better in any sport IMO than game 7 OT in hockey.
lol
I don't think either of these two teams have the goaltending to win, but so much talent.
If one of VAN/LI win, it's 22
If neither win, it's 23
You go ahead and give it right up 10 seconds later? Good. Choke on that. Dallas wins it. Unreal game.
You go ahead and give it right up 10 seconds later? Good. Choke on that. Dallas wins it. Unreal game.
If one of VAN/LI win, it's 22
If neither win, it's 23
And another 23 years without a cup.
There is no way VAN should still be alive in this series nor should this game be tied.
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1st period stats
Shots on goal: 11-2 VGK
Shot attempts: 27-6 VGK
Scoring chances*: 8-2 VGK
High-danger chances*: 3-1 VGK
Hits: 24-9 VGK
* from @NatStatTrick
under review.
I think that’s bullshit. I’m sure it’s the rule but that’s terrible
I think that’s bullshit. I’m sure it’s the rule but that’s terrible
I think if he made that same hit without making contact to the head he avoids a penalty completely.
I know some enjoy a goalie performance like this but if Vancouver wins this game imo it basically wraps the East the Cup. Maybe the islanders or flyers. Vegas is so much better outside of goalie. It’s getting annoying.
I think VAN actually matches up better vs the east teams than they do LVG.
Amen
there is 16 minutes left in the game.
If Vancouver wins, Las Vegas will have to be absolutely sick. Just like the Isles will be.
If Vancouver wins, Las Vegas will have to be absolutely sick. Just like the Isles will be.
Demko has been unbeatable for 3 games now. Stopped I think 109 of 110
Shots or something. It’s not a game 7 issue. He’d have stolen the series like Halak did.
But I don’t think vegas has been dirty enough in front of the net - they get cute at times. They need like a Simmonds in his prime
I'm a little surprised no one on Vegas has gone hard to the net on the rush.
VAN to the PP.
Every team does it and it leave 4 players riding the blue line.
Thinking the same thing
TBL vs the winner of NYI vs PHI tomorrow at 7:30
TBL vs the winner of NYI vs PHI tomorrow at 7:30
Gotta think the Knights have the edge in that series
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DAL vs LVG - this series is going to be awesome. DAL matches up better against LVG than VAN did IMO - skater for skater. Their weakness is in net though, so it will be interesting. DAL has much better size and grit than VAN and won't get pushed around IMO like VAN did.
TBL vs the winner of NYI vs PHI tomorrow at 7:30
Gotta think the Knights have the edge in that series
Vegas will be favored and they have the better goalie by far.
But I'm picking the Stars.
My picks were BOS vs LVG (I think) in the beginning, so I'm going against my early prediction.
No question. Wasn't only so much that Vegas was smothering VAN attempts at mounting an attack (anemic PP only punctuated that), it stood out to me at least that VAN skaters exuded 'we're beaten' and their only hope was Demko. VAN skaters has zero confidence in their own end and in the LVK end, no conviction. They were letting fly with clears in their own end and with passes attempting to mount rushes that smacked of desperation 2nd and esp. 3rd period.
Only exception was that two-on-one on which Lehner made that remarkable save mirroring several that Demko made.
Knights remind me of Kings mid-last decade: they play very heavy but much better skating team as a whole. McPhee has done an absolutely phenomenal job.
(Parenthetically: As much talent as NYR appear to be assembling, JD has to be watching these SCP (with CAR fresh in mind) and wondering if a predominantly skill/skating formula can be successful against Western Conf winners, incl. St.L last year)
Hart did what he could. Forced 7 games. Wouldn't put this on him at all (not saying you are, just in general)
Have to hand it to NHL planners for another reason: Had the EC Finals stayed in Toronto, the Western Conf winner would have had 'home ice advantage' because of familiarity from their extended stay at Rogers Place. They still might. At least TBL or NYI get a series to get acclimated a bit.
DAL vs LVG at 08:00pm on NBC.
Everyone has LVG favored, and I love their blue line and size, but DAL has far more skill and grit too (and size of their own). I think this comes down to who stays out of the box. I will go against the grain and against my early pick and call for the upset. DAL wins in 7.
Vegas the favorite (on money puck), Dallas the lowest probability. (66/34)
NYI vs TBL almost a pick 'em, TBL favored 51/49
I can't imagine this series is anything like the PHI series though for the Isles, they aren't going to out shoot and possess TB, so it will likely have to be more of a counter attack series where the main objective will be keeping TB to the perimeter in the offensive zone. And ST will be a bigger swing factor even if the refs hopefully continue swallowing their whistles. Can't give TB powerplays and need to convert on the chances they get. As dominant as the win was yesterday they blew a few PP chances.
Varly vs. Greiss will be an interesting call. I think I'd go back to Varly now as opposed to making him dwell on the bench. we know Greiss can handle that emotionally and still come in and play well. Give Varly game 1, gives Greiss a little extra rest since there was only 1 day off, and then go from there.
Not even a finalist - they vote before the playoffs start.
Cassidy, Torts, and AV.
If there's an award for best coaching performance in the Toronto bubble he'd prob win that.
I'm a little surprised because Lehner has played so well, but MAF has better numbers vs the Stars (though that seems kind of random to me).
Surprising to me too. And you know hockey coaches - they're all Belichickian - in fact I wouldn't be shocked if Belichick developed his media persona from watching hockey coaches. I doubt they'd ever tell the real reason - injury, fatigue, hunch, etc.
Stars were money on the dots. Such an underrated area of hockey, sometimes after a goal, a failed power play, a backbreaking penalty - it can all be traced to a face off win/loss.
Good game.
Today:
NYI vs TBL at 08:00pm on NBCSN, this is the first game in the series - moneypuck has TBL as a slight favorite and in this series I am going with TBL. I think it will be close - a lot of one goal or OT (hopefully) games.
Lehner, in the handshake line, looked exhausted, so rest/fatigue might be real. Do I have it right that there were questions in LVK opting for Lehner (from Sabres?) because he had off-ice issues, emotional issues? I don't mean to suggest he is experiencing stability issues now, but they have a way of surfacing during periods of high stress.
But maybe I have that as wrong as I had Trots (thank you pj and Eric for obligatory correction, I'll have to accept COY in Toronto Bubble land)
As a lifelong NYR fan (season tix for several of GAG line years and truant from college heading down to Sunday nights at the old (the only true) MSG to sit in the rafters and bang that tin roof to a farethewell), I need help in sorting out my feelings for NYI: do I root for them hard as Metro brethren or root against them?
LVG is not. They use their size to their advantage and basically seemed to dominate possession and dominated in the corners vs VAN.
They cannot do that against Dallas who has bigger, physical D and bigger, physical, forwards.
I barely even noticed Elias Pettersson the last couple games vs LVG.
Their main issue was scoring at equal strength.
Their main issue was scoring at equal strength.
McAvoy and Carlo are the only D I'd want on my team and Carlo would be a bottom pair - so much potential, so little growth.
McAvoy should be a Norris contender, but Chara, Krug, Grzelcyk, Clifton, Moore, Miller don't make my team unless it's Krug as a PP specialist or Clifton as depth.
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#oilers close to acquiring Matt Murray
TBL up 1 - 0
weak call on the face off interference.
NYI to the PP.
Love the puck movement.
great pace so far.
Tampa has created more turnovers on zone exit attempts in this period than the rest of the bubble games combined vs NYI.
3 - 1 TBL
Islanders going to have to adjust to not playing the Flyers
This broadcast crew is two heads and shoulders above Kenny Albert, et al.
gotta be honest this first period has been like whiplash from a NYI perspective compared to the flyers series where there were only like 1 or 2 powerplays per game.
NYI to their 3rd PP of the period.
13 seconds left on the PP.
NYI really good puck movement on the PP, and TBL PKers way too aggressive for the NYI skill. I think if they're a little more patient they'll get some even better chances on the PP.
I think the puck was moving on the breakaway. I thought he would bury that one.
I thought it maybe went it, but I thought they had to wait for a stoppage in play
If TBL keeps going to the box they will let NYI back into the game. The NYI PP has just one goal out of 4 (?) PP's but they're all over it.
agree. It's not over. and the NYI PP is buzzing. Barzal had a great chance plus the shot that hit the crossbar and post.
TBL to the PP.
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#gohabsgo
Plan to offer Max Domi a contract extension of 6 years @ 6.25 million per year.
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@iamhockey1
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Also from a source: “100% no chance Taylor Hall re-signs with Arizona” #nhl
Use the last 2 min of the second and the 3rd period to push back a little, and if they can't get all the way back in this one, they know what they're dealing with for game 2.
@EvolvingHockey
Apparently the Lightning haven't missed the net yet and have been incredibly efficient
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#gohabsgo
Plan to offer Max Domi a contract extension of 6 years @ 6.25 million per year.
I kind of think this is a good deal if he signs it.
I'm actually as weirdly optimistic on a 5-1 drubbing as one could probably feel. Though the nyi need to find a sustainable pace they can play at.
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#gohabsgo
Plan to offer Max Domi a contract extension of 6 years @ 6.25 million per year.
I kind of think this is a good deal if he signs it.
It's great for him, decent for the Canadiens, he's a top 6 forward.
but it means Tatar is being traded or Danault is being traded (I think). Hopefully Tatar.
6 - 1 TBL.
6 - 2 TBL
7 - 2 TBL
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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TB went 58:53 without missing the net. First (and only) miss with 67 seconds to go (Paquette).
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#NEWS: The New Jersey Devils have hired new assistant coach, Mark Recchi.
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they got steamrolled. 40 years ago in the SCF the Islanders lost game 2 to the Flyers 8 - 3 and won the series.
I wouldn't worry about it. yet.
@4EverBlueshirts
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I have no definitive info on this, but my educated guess tells me the #NYR
are very likely to move the 22nd pick of the draft. I'm 80% certain.
@4EverBlueshirts
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I have no definitive info on this, but my educated guess tells me the #NYR
are very likely to move the 22nd pick of the draft. I'm 80% certain.
Yeah, it's a possibility they make another trade like they did last year with Trouba. They need a #1 LD and a 2C.
Lehner replaces MAF and throws the shutout.
I didn't see it, had practice for my daughter and then my own game (1st game since early March - there isn't enough advil on the planet to help me recover from that), so can't offer anything other than the box score.
tonight:
NYI look to rebound from game 1 at 08:00pm vs TBL on NBCSN
@Morning_Skate
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Lets check in on how Islanders fans are doing today
Scouting The Refs
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Refs Steve Kozari and Kelly Sutherland work #Isles
#GoBolts
with Scott Cherrey and Kiel Murchison
https://scoutingtherefs.com/2020/09/29793/todays-nhl-stanley-cup-playoff-referees-and-linesmen-9-9-20/
#NYI #TBL #NYIvsTBL #Islanders #Lightning #NHL
@AGretz
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Bruins coach Bruce Cassidy wins Jack Adams Award. https://bit.ly/33djWGr | @NHLonNBCSports
@renlavoietva
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Derick Brassard OUT vs @TBLightning
@NYIslanders
@TVASports
nice forecheck creates a chance and Martin beats Vasilevsky.
1 - 0 NYI
NYI dominating zone time, have the TBL hemmed in the zone.
being reviewed now.
Possible, I think he could get a game.
the 5 min major helped, but NYI dominating.
losing Killorn is huge.
"means more ice time"
NYI need to capitalize.
Nelson cross checks Maroon after - no call.
Much different game than with Rooney at ref.
Usually the players are gasping.
If I'm the NYI I hit everything that moved in the 3rd.
9 forwards will take it's toll before the game is over.
Isles just can't capitalize with the man advantage
Isles just can't capitalize with the man advantage
After Kilorn's hit meaning when Gooddrow cross checked his neck into the boards?
face off is huge here.
then Bouvilier takes a bad angle shot that misses
Atrocious play by the Islanders
They didn't want OT obviously with a short bench.
But no Killorn and no Point, and the NYI have to be beside themselves for losing this one.
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I'd be pumped too. Don't blame him for letting emotions get the best of him.
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I'd be pumped too. Don't blame him for letting emotions get the best of him.
He's a coach, he's supposed to keep it in and be stoic.
Still, hope isn’t lost yet. Isles looked the better team for stretches, even when Point was in. Just need to find a way to win on Friday night and we’ll see where things go from there.
NYI felt like a big underdog entering the series so that remains so, just wish TB wasn't playing the cheap shot game. Really hope the NYI can win game 3 and at least make it a series.
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I'd be pumped too. Don't blame him for letting emotions get the best of him.
He's a coach, he's supposed to keep it in and be stoic.
Typically, yes. But I think you can let that one side.
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I'd be pumped too. Don't blame him for letting emotions get the best of him.
He's a coach, he's supposed to keep it in and be stoic.
Typically, yes. But I think you can let that one slide.
Point's status is huge.
If they lose Killorn and Point can't play - that's 3 top 6 forwards out of the lineup for TBL.
Goodrow might be their best defensive forward - if he gets a game that would be 4 top 9 forwards out of the lineup.
I have to give Hedman credit, I think he was lazy in the prior rounds, but he looks great this series.
McDonough's whipped pass from the far boards right across the crease brought to mind a different kind of pass but same stellar vision: was a NYR SCP game (I think), McDonough about midway between his own blue line and center ice whipped a pass that threaded the needle between two d-men and found Nash's stick as he came clean on a breakaway to score.
He still hasn't IMO, but that play was off the charts from a hockey IQ standpoint - it was a huge risk since he would have been caught way up ice if that pass missed and the NYI went the other way, but he knew with the time left, and his angle it was a risk worth taking.
As you or someone mentioned above, the Isles looked to be more fatigued than the short handed TBL.
Hard to see exactly what happened to Point. We know what happened to Nelson, twice. He came back, but was not the same player, looked dazed and tentative to my eyes.
And, finally, not sure if discussed above, but it seemed to me Varlamov simply missed Hedman's shot. He saw it, extended his pad, but not fully, it seemed to me. Had he done so, it rebounds toward the boards, different game.
And I don't think Varlamov just missed the Hedman goal - it was a screen and if anything I think he maybe lost his net a little bit, because that goal hit almost the outside of the post and went in the net. It's possible he just thought it would be wide.
again - comes down to a face off (this one the result of an icing).
pj, a question on faceoffs:
do the pair facing off, does the linesman want one player to have his stick flat on the ice, motionless, and his opponent can drop his when the linesman drops the puck. In the circle, does it depend at all that you are in your own end or opponent's end. A lot of times when one or the other is motioned out for a new player to take the draw, I am not seeing what the linesman is seeing and acting upon.
Rarely, if ever, are both sticks flat on the ice on the drop, but often, maybe usually, one is. Is the advantage with the player who has his stick raised before the drop? If so, why is he allowed?
tia
I believe in the NHL the rule is visiting team stick needs to be on the ice first, followed by the home team.
He still hasn't IMO, but that play was off the charts from a hockey IQ standpoint - it was a huge risk since he would have been caught way up ice if that pass missed and the NYI went the other way, but he knew with the time left, and his angle it was a risk worth taking.
I think injuries shortened McDonagh's prime. I thought after the 2014 run he was going to be one of those guys in the second tier of Norris conversations. Never win one, but be a top ten vote getter or something. I probably overestimated his offensive abilities as well.
1 - 0 Stars, 7 seconds left in the second period.
LVG takes a TO.
15+ left in the 3rd, 1 - 1
Lehner was way out of his net on this, surprised he got beat 5-hole.
2 - 1
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Pretty sure one of Domi or Danault will be traded. I prefer to keep Danault, but rumor is the Canadiens are offering Domi an extension so we'll see. If Danualt stays I feel like he will be 3rd line C. Suzuki 1C, Kotkaniemi 2C (at least that's how it should be)
there is no way IMO that is goalie interference.
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Off-topic, but what's the word on Danault? Is he on the trading block? Would love him on the Rangers. One of the best defensive centers in the NHL.
Pretty sure one of Domi or Danault will be traded. I prefer to keep Danault, but rumor is the Canadiens are offering Domi an extension so we'll see. If Danualt stays I feel like he will be 3rd line C. Suzuki 1C, Kotkaniemi 2C (at least that's how it should be)
Danault is really good on the dots too in addition to being a solid defensive C.
We go to OT, but Lehner might be hurt.
Dallas leads 2 - 1
Can't make this shit up.
NYI need to seize the OPTY tonight. 3 top 6 forwards out for TBL if Point in fact misses the game.
TBL vs NYI at 08:00pm on USA, TBL leads 2 - 0.
has career Playoffs goals/shots % of nearly 16%
a vet younger players feed off his experience
pj probably knows him well: before his season with the Canadians, his last season with Nashville was bracketed by ~ 3 seasons each playing in Russia? Was that $$ related?
has career Playoffs goals/shots % of nearly 16%
a vet younger players feed off his experience
pj probably knows him well: before his season with the Canadians, his last season with Nashville was bracketed by ~ 3 seasons each playing in Russia? Was that $$ related?
Radulov was the prototypical Russian prima donna.
He wore out his welcome in Nashville - first by leaving for more money for the KHL vs his RFA deal and second, after he returned to the Preds after a few seasons in Russia, he was out partying all night during the playoffs violating team rules. So they suspended him the remainder of the playoffs - and he went back to the KHL.
The Canadiens offered him a shot at redemption and he took it. He seemed like a changed person, but who knows. He rewarded the Canadiens by not even offering them the chance to match the Stars offer.
Good player, good shot, defensively responsible (most of the time), and can be physical.
Looks like a cartoon villain though.
Brennan Klak
@nhlupdate
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In game one of Boston vs Tampa Bay, Victor Hedman was on the ice for a Charlie Coyle tip goal.
Since that happened, Hedman has:
10 points in 7 games.
6 goals.
At 5v5, he's been on the ice for nine goals for and zero against.
#TBLightning
Brian Boucher was on with Evan Thursday (?) on WFAN, singing his praises to high heavens. He has been other worldly, prolly influences McDonough > freer to attack (not taking anything away from his seizing the moment)
@DavidAmber
Stamkos, Killorn and Point OUT for Tampa. They combined for 33% of Lightning goals in regular season.
@DavidAmber
Stamkos, Killorn and Point OUT for Tampa. They combined for 33% of Lightning goals in regular season.
Islanders would have been a good play tonight, assuming they were still underdogs.
3-1 after 2 periods.
The balance of your post, I'm not sure I agree, re. Isles being one inattentive swat from behind the red line + 30secs of poor play away from 2-1 in reverse. It seemed to me, for much of the game, and certainly in the 3rd, that the Islanders constantly 'lost contain' (in football verbiage): there seemed always a guy in front of Varlamov or at the far post and the Islanders' d-men having lost track or simply being out of position. I think all 3 goals last night, certainly Game 2's gamewinner. They seemed to have breakdowns in assignments very uncharacteristic of a Trotz-coached team. Last night, I thought Mayield in particular, but all.
After TB tied the game less than half way in the 3rd, they were buzzing in NYI end for what seemed like the rest of the period, Sergechev, Kucharov, Palaat, Shatt and McD et al. controlling the point. Isles were puck chasing and on their heels for long stretches. At that point, I figured the game and Series were over. Stellar tenacity and blind pass by Beauvillier that just elude TB d-man's stick, perfectly positioned in front of Vasilevsky, until he wasn't.
(Been up one of the Rte 9 Alphabet land recently to Storm King, wonderful, open spaces)
(Been up one of the Rte 9 Alphabet land recently to Storm King, wonderful, open spaces)
Nah. NFL sucks. I am scoreboard watching though and have some active fantasy games on DraftKings...
I saw one of the drives where Philly just easily scored on the Washington football team. Same old shit.
Long way back now...
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Expect @GoldenKnights
to announce the extension of @RobinLehner
soon after their elimination (whenever that will be). The deal looks as though it will be 5 years for 6.25 million per year. This makes Fleury expendable (flames had high interest a few years back).
Stars deserve to be winning this series, they have the size and grit to not allow LVG to dominate the corners and in front of the net.
But nothing with LVG surprises me anymore.
Interesting that there is no clear cut #1.
contrast that with 2022 and you have Shane Wright who is the most hyped #1 since Lindros I wonder if teams try and punt 2021 or maybe just don't get as aggressive. Though as evidenced the past few years, it's impossible to plan for #1.
Lots of early D in 2021 (according to Wheeler) including 5 of his top 10, with Luke Hughes (Quinn and Jack's younger brother) at #10.
I like 6' 5" Owen Power.
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Some news to kick off your week!
The #Flames
have named Geoff Ward head coach: https://cflam.es/2RsnbnT
@Erik_Erlendsson
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Video released by the league of Steven Stamkos skating today #TBLightning #GoBolts
DAL and TBL the most balanced teams in the league (going out on a limb?) between forward, D and goalie.
Only with DAL I thought it would be Bishop not Khudobin.
Interesting that there is no clear cut #1.
contrast that with 2022 and you have Shane Wright who is the most hyped #1 since Lindros I wonder if teams try and punt 2021 or maybe just don't get as aggressive. Though as evidenced the past few years, it's impossible to plan for #1.
Lots of early D in 2021 (according to Wheeler) including 5 of his top 10, with Luke Hughes (Quinn and Jack's younger brother) at #10.
I like 6' 5" Owen Power.
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Shane Wright is more hyped than Crosby, McDavid and Lafreniere? Doubtful.
Okay, I might've squeezed Lafreniere's name in there.
He may not wind up as hyped as a #1 pick over the next 18 months, but teams have had their eyes on 2022 like the NFL teams with Trevor Lawrence.
He may not wind up as hyped as a #1 pick over the next 18 months, but teams have had their eyes on 2022 like the NFL teams with Trevor Lawrence.
That makes more sense
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ages he was. Shane Wright has been the top pick in the 2022 draft since he was 13.
He may not wind up as hyped as a #1 pick over the next 18 months, but teams have had their eyes on 2022 like the NFL teams with Trevor Lawrence.
That makes more sense
I read one article (from March - I'll see if I can dig it up) that said Wright is like a combination of McDavid and Tavares - sort of the perfect hockey player (kind of like how Lindros was viewed).
Though physically he is nowhere near Lindros (though Wright is probably not done growing since he's still 16)
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ages he was. Shane Wright has been the top pick in the 2022 draft since he was 13.
He may not wind up as hyped as a #1 pick over the next 18 months, but teams have had their eyes on 2022 like the NFL teams with Trevor Lawrence.
That makes more sense
I read one article (from March - I'll see if I can dig it up) that said Wright is like a combination of McDavid and Tavares - sort of the perfect hockey player (kind of like how Lindros was viewed).
Though physically he is nowhere near Lindros (though Wright is probably not done growing since he's still 16)
That's the weird thing. He was projected to be the #1 pick back when he was 13? Had he even gone through puberty then? There have been similar wunderkinds in the NBA. Hell, I think even RJ Barrett was a guy who was touted as the #1 pick before he hit HS.
I know Wright is highly thought of. We spoke about him in the past. Same with Matthew Savoie. But McDavid was the best prospect since Crosby and Crosby was deemed the best prospect since whom? Probably Lindros. And both Crosby and McDavid were and are generational talents.
Wright has (in theory) two more junior seasons before his draft. A lot could happen. Positive and negative.
As 15-16 year old he was pretty dominant in the OHL.
he led all OHL rookies in scoring and led his team in scoring.
Shane Wright was granted exceptional status in the OHL to start this year. For those of you who do not know exceptional status is a Hockey Canada rule that allows 15-year-olds to be allowed to play in the CHL.
Only five players have ever been granted exceptional status years including John Tavares, Aaron Ekblad and of course McDavid. Wright who already has 33 goals and 26 assists so far through 49 games which have him at 59 points. McDavid had 66 points in 63 games in his exceptional status season....
Our own Tate Harris breaks down the comparisons between Wright and Oilers’ superstar, Connor McDavid. The stats would indicate that Wright could be a step ahead at this point in their careers.
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Looked like Benn or Radulov scored for DAL.
A stephenson breakaway in the 1st and an early 3rd period goal for Riley Smith gave Vegas the lead.
Ps: Fuck Evan Engram
and yes fuck Engram.
Hoping for OT's and game 7's and my chances are running out.
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Shane Wright was granted exceptional status in the OHL to start this year. For those of you who do not know exceptional status is a Hockey Canada rule that allows 15-year-olds to be allowed to play in the CHL.
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Our own Tate Harris breaks down the comparisons between Wright and Oilers’ superstar, Connor McDavid. The stats would indicate that Wright could be a step ahead at this point in their careers.
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Of course, one of the five was Sean Day, so anything can happen.
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I am surprised he lasted this long.
His niece was on my daughters team for 3 or 4 years, nice family. Good coach IMO.
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Last night, a few reporters in attendance heard a Stars player call a Golden Knights player an "ugly mutt" after a scrum ensued. We don't know who it was directed toward. No players have raised any concern with the NHL that it was racially motivated.
He may not wind up as hyped as a #1 pick over the next 18 months, but teams have had their eyes on 2022 like the NFL teams with Trevor Lawrence.
Wright is the youngest guy I can recall being hyped. I remember Crosby being hyped up when he was 15 (maybe he was even earlier but I don't remember), and I've heard about Wright for ~2 years I think.
I mean, I don't personally remember it because I'm a few years younger than Lindros, but I remember hearing around the time of the draft how he's been pegged as the future #1 overall since he was very young.
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BRODS!
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Just looks like he's using his size more now, playing physical and not just hitting (which he's doing), but with how he's carrying the play offensively.
Plus his shot looks stronger.
I'd expect big things from him in 2021.
See if you can find KHL games for Traktor or even clips online.
I hope he's traded to MTL - though I've heard no rumors to indicate the NYR are even thinking of moving him.
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I am surprised he lasted this long.
His niece was on my daughters team for 3 or 4 years, nice family. Good coach IMO.
Good coach, but apparently his attitude can wear on people and he is not willing to compromise. Think Coughlin with Jacksonville.
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Last night, a few reporters in attendance heard a Stars player call a Golden Knights player an "ugly mutt" after a scrum ensued. We don't know who it was directed toward. No players have raised any concern with the NHL that it was racially motivated.
"Mutt" is a derogatory term for a biracial person
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I am surprised he lasted this long.
His niece was on my daughters team for 3 or 4 years, nice family. Good coach IMO.
Good coach, but apparently his attitude can wear on people and he is not willing to compromise. Think Coughlin with Jacksonville.
Or Torts...anywhere
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Shane Wright was granted exceptional status in the OHL to start this year. For those of you who do not know exceptional status is a Hockey Canada rule that allows 15-year-olds to be allowed to play in the CHL.
Only five players have ever been granted exceptional status years including John Tavares, Aaron Ekblad and of course McDavid. Wright who already has 33 goals and 26 assists so far through 49 games which have him at 59 points. McDavid had 66 points in 63 games in his exceptional status season....
Our own Tate Harris breaks down the comparisons between Wright and Oilers’ superstar, Connor McDavid. The stats would indicate that Wright could be a step ahead at this point in their careers.
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Of course, one of the five was Sean Day, so anything can happen.
Joe Veleno was the most recent one, I believe
Just looks like he's using his size more now, playing physical and not just hitting (which he's doing), but with how he's carrying the play offensively.
Plus his shot looks stronger.
I'd expect big things from him in 2021.
See if you can find KHL games for Traktor or even clips online.
I hope he's traded to MTL - though I've heard no rumors to indicate the NYR are even thinking of moving him.
I wouldn't. Apparently they're playing Krav on the LW, while the Rangers see him (or at least did) as a RW. But actually, Craig Button said something interesting about Kravtsov's projection:
Craig Button
@CraigJButton
Solid middle 6 forward. Will provide offense but not be prolific. I have liked the idea of having him expand his game & play center. I think he becomes more of a two-way center than an offensive winger when he plays the wing. I think Vitali is still scratching out his niche.
Considering our dire need at C, I wonder if the Rangers consider the conversion.
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how is this in any way racially motivated? Why do people even need to go there? It says more about them than person who said it.
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Last night, a few reporters in attendance heard a Stars player call a Golden Knights player an "ugly mutt" after a scrum ensued. We don't know who it was directed toward. No players have raised any concern with the NHL that it was racially motivated.
"Mutt" is a derogatory term for a biracial person
There was no one biracial on the ice - or on either team as far as I know.
it's a hockey chirp that has been around forever and intent matters when social jactivism co-ops everyday words and anoints them as racist.
there is enough shit in this world that bears correcting without manufacturing shit. When people manufacture shit, what bears correcting loses the attention it deserves and people start to focus on the edges and change can't happen.
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@aj_ranger
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Lias Andersson finishes HV71's preseason with a team-high 12 points in eight games. Five goals and seven assists. #NYR
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how is this in any way racially motivated? Why do people even need to go there? It says more about them than person who said it.
Stephen Whyno
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Last night, a few reporters in attendance heard a Stars player call a Golden Knights player an "ugly mutt" after a scrum ensued. We don't know who it was directed toward. No players have raised any concern with the NHL that it was racially motivated.
"Mutt" is a derogatory term for a biracial person
There was no one biracial on the ice - or on either team as far as I know.
it's a hockey chirp that has been around forever and intent matters when social jactivism co-ops everyday words and anoints them as racist.
there is enough shit in this world that bears correcting without manufacturing shit. When people manufacture shit, what bears correcting loses the attention it deserves and people start to focus on the edges and change can't happen.
Supposedly it was said to Ryan Reaves
Reaves hit a Stars player into his teammate, Carrier. The quote was “keep picking off your own players, you ugly mutt.”
Reaves hit a Stars player into his teammate, Carrier. The quote was “keep picking off your own players, you ugly mutt.”
Thank god Pete's here to investigate and lob racist accusations at people with zero knowledge.
Stephen Whyno
@SWhyno
Replying to @CapsRegalBeagle
we are convinced the yelling was done at Carrier, not Reaves.
11:53 AM · Sep 15, 2020
Stephen Whyno
@SWhyno
Replying to @AmyRothenberger and @CapsRegalBeagle
That it was yelled at Carrier for picking on Janmark in the ensuing scrum. the original tweet never said who it was directed to, just that it was after the hit. But due diligence is being done asking if there's anything being investigated.
11:56 AM · Sep 15, 2020
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Reaves is biracial. His father is black and his mother is white.
Reaves hit a Stars player into his teammate, Carrier. The quote was “keep picking off your own players, you ugly mutt.”
Thank god Pete's here to investigate and lob racist accusations at people with zero knowledge.
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The reporters are convinced it was directed at Carrier, not Reaves.
Stephen Whyno
@SWhyno
Replying to @CapsRegalBeagle
we are convinced the yelling was done at Carrier, not Reaves.
11:53 AM · Sep 15, 2020
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And at no time did anyone say the comment was directed at Reaves.
Stephen Whyno
@SWhyno
Replying to @AmyRothenberger and @CapsRegalBeagle
That it was yelled at Carrier for picking on Janmark in the ensuing scrum. the original tweet never said who it was directed to, just that it was after the hit. But due diligence is being done asking if there's anything being investigated.
11:56 AM · Sep 15, 2020
Yeah, so if it was said at Carrier, then I agree with you. It was blown way out of proportion.
NYI stay alive
Or dead ;-)
Same. Lucky I don't have work tomorrow.
I'm pretty sure I woke up the annoying kid in the next apt
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I'm surprised the douchey triple fist-pump didn't do it for ya
at least it keeps alive the hope for a game 7.
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I'm surprised the douchey triple fist-pump didn't do it for ya
game 2 after the goal with 8 secs? nah I give him a pass on that. playing half the game with 9 fwds, I dont mind being pumped like that.
now after 2 losses and saying we gave the game away and they needed the stars to align? go f himself
Tampa had more chances than the Islanders but they wern't exactly putting a lopsided differential up once things got to OT.
Don't have to be the better team to win a playoff series. Good goaltending and timely goals can do it. Isles really looked gassed at times last night but they are absolutely going to make Tampa earn their way into the finals.
The physical series seems to be taking a toll on Tampa as well as things go on.
great win, and I agree, you don't need to dominate zone time or scoring chances to win, but I definitely felt like TBL had the momentum.
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Reaves is biracial. His father is black and his mother is white.
Reaves hit a Stars player into his teammate, Carrier. The quote was “keep picking off your own players, you ugly mutt.”
Thank god Pete's here to investigate and lob racist accusations at people with zero knowledge.
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The reporters are convinced it was directed at Carrier, not Reaves.
Stephen Whyno
@SWhyno
Replying to @CapsRegalBeagle
we are convinced the yelling was done at Carrier, not Reaves.
11:53 AM · Sep 15, 2020
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And at no time did anyone say the comment was directed at Reaves.
Stephen Whyno
@SWhyno
Replying to @AmyRothenberger and @CapsRegalBeagle
That it was yelled at Carrier for picking on Janmark in the ensuing scrum. the original tweet never said who it was directed to, just that it was after the hit. But due diligence is being done asking if there's anything being investigated.
11:56 AM · Sep 15, 2020
Dude, really? I live in Vegas. Three blocks from the Knights’ practice facility - I have friends who work for the team. The reporters can be convinced of whatever they like. The guys on the ice know what was said and who it was said to. What’s more likely? A biracial slur is said towards a biracial player in Reaves who is known for being goonish on the ice? Or a biracial slur is said towards William Carrier who is from Quebec?
But even without my info from people who work for the team, you don’t need to be Perry Mason to figure it out. It’s not a big deal. Just makes VGK’s performance in the third period even more disappointing.
This is the guy who has chronicled the "chirps" all playoffs - because you know he was there. But you keep being you and perpetuating lies.
@ThomasDrance
It’s important to me that we get this right.
As a matter of conscience, here’s my full account of the “mutt” comment overheard in Game 5 of the Western Conference Final. Sharing it so that hockey fans can make up their own mind with full access to the facts as I understand them.
I too admit, like Drance (who is a hockey beat writer for the Athletic - Canucks), I didn't know mutt was a racial slur and I'm pretty positive the player who said it didn't either and it was meant simply as a chip to Carrier.
I'm done with this conversation, but if others want to continue it, be my guest.
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enough about how different Kravtsov looks.
Just looks like he's using his size more now, playing physical and not just hitting (which he's doing), but with how he's carrying the play offensively.
Plus his shot looks stronger.
I'd expect big things from him in 2021.
See if you can find KHL games for Traktor or even clips online.
I hope he's traded to MTL - though I've heard no rumors to indicate the NYR are even thinking of moving him.
I wouldn't. Apparently they're playing Krav on the LW, while the Rangers see him (or at least did) as a RW. But actually, Craig Button said something interesting about Kravtsov's projection:
Craig Button
@CraigJButton
Solid middle 6 forward. Will provide offense but not be prolific. I have liked the idea of having him expand his game & play center. I think he becomes more of a two-way center than an offensive winger when he plays the wing. I think Vitali is still scratching out his niche.
Considering our dire need at C, I wonder if the Rangers consider the conversion.
If he only turns out to only be a middle six winger, that would be a disappointment.
This is the guy who has chronicled the "chirps" all playoffs - because you know he was there. But you keep being you and perpetuating lies.
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Thomas Drance
@ThomasDrance
It’s important to me that we get this right.
As a matter of conscience, here’s my full account of the “mutt” comment overheard in Game 5 of the Western Conference Final. Sharing it so that hockey fans can make up their own mind with full access to the facts as I understand them.
All I can tell you is what I have been told that the Knights themselves believed about the situation. If that is incorrect, then that is incorrect.
Drance even says it himself - Reaves hit both Carrier and Lindell. The comment was keep picking off your own guys, you ugly mutt.
Hell, Whymo’s original quote was that someone called Ryan Reaves an ugly butt. Then over the next two hours, he is now sure it was directed at Carrier?
Again, it just makes their performance in the 3rd period even more disappointing.
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enough about how different Kravtsov looks.
Just looks like he's using his size more now, playing physical and not just hitting (which he's doing), but with how he's carrying the play offensively.
Plus his shot looks stronger.
I'd expect big things from him in 2021.
See if you can find KHL games for Traktor or even clips online.
I hope he's traded to MTL - though I've heard no rumors to indicate the NYR are even thinking of moving him.
I wouldn't. Apparently they're playing Krav on the LW, while the Rangers see him (or at least did) as a RW. But actually, Craig Button said something interesting about Kravtsov's projection:
Craig Button
@CraigJButton
Solid middle 6 forward. Will provide offense but not be prolific. I have liked the idea of having him expand his game & play center. I think he becomes more of a two-way center than an offensive winger when he plays the wing. I think Vitali is still scratching out his niche.
Considering our dire need at C, I wonder if the Rangers consider the conversion.
If he only turns out to only be a middle six winger, that would be a disappointment.
True, but he may be a middle-6 guy regardless of how he plays. I can't see him outplaying guys like Panarin, Lafreniere and Kakko.
Some key dates:
NHL draft: October 6 - 7
Free Agent Signings can begin: October 9
Just looks like he's using his size more now, playing physical and not just hitting (which he's doing), but with how he's carrying the play offensively.
Plus his shot looks stronger.
I'd expect big things from him in 2021.
See if you can find KHL games for Traktor or even clips online.
Does he lack value?
Kane, Kucherov, Laine, Tarasenko, Marchand, Pastrnak, etc.
I would not feel like a player has less value as a W than a C necessarily
@nhlupdate
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#mnwild
trade Eric Staal to #Sabres for Marcus Johansson.
@nhlupdate
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#mnwild
trade Eric Staal to #Sabres for Marcus Johansson.
MarJo's 4th team in 2 years.
Good addition, good contract, big, veteran, physical, stay at home defenseman.
good gamble even if it didn't work out.
I like most of what Bergevin does lately.
@IIHFHockey
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The 2021 #WorldJuniors will be played in a bubble without spectators in Edmonton
in 2022 with fans in Edmonton & Red Deer.
The World Juniors in Gothenburg will be moved to 2024.
https://iihf.com/en/events/2021/wm20/news/20596/2021-world-juniors-taking-shape
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holy shit he was great - this isn't the best clip - there is one of his save on a penalty shot that is better (I'll look for it), but this gives you a sense for his movement and reaction time in net.
Added bonus (for him) Malkin and Kovalchuk in the stands watching the game.
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holy shit he was great - this isn't the best clip - there is one of his save on a penalty shot that is better (I'll look for it), but this gives you a sense for his movement and reaction time in net.
Added bonus (for him) Malkin and Kovalchuk in the stands watching the game. link - ( New Window )
And what a goal it was. A real beauty.
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with another goal today, but the story was Askarov in net.
holy shit he was great - this isn't the best clip - there is one of his save on a penalty shot that is better (I'll look for it), but this gives you a sense for his movement and reaction time in net.
Added bonus (for him) Malkin and Kovalchuk in the stands watching the game. link - ( New Window )
And what a goal it was. A real beauty.
Actually ended with 2 goals.
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hope it doesn't decide the game.
I hate that the blood leads to an extra two automatically.
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I hate that the blood leads to an extra two automatically.
Same here.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
idiots.
Cool seeing Stamkos, hope he plays. Doubt he does.
idiots.
Cool seeing Stamkos, hope he plays. Doubt he does.
Haha
Why hasn’t Stamkos played - or was it just not stated due to the injury protocols?
idiots.
Cool seeing Stamkos, hope he plays. Doubt he does.
Nah, didn't stop this guy
idiots.
Cool seeing Stamkos, hope he plays. Doubt he does.
Stars are going to win anyway
Dallas! Stars! Dallas! Stars!
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Stars will win.
idiots.
Cool seeing Stamkos, hope he plays. Doubt he does.
Haha
Why hasn’t Stamkos played - or was it just not stated due to the injury protocols?
you know hockey, they'll never tell you.
He had surgery in March called "core muscle surgery" whatever that means and was supposed to be out for the playoffs (6 - 8 weeks) but then covid happened, and then he got hurt during workouts when they started up, I think a "lower body injury", a couple days ago they showed him skating with the team but Cooper said he's not close.
no idea what's wrong.
need to re-sign Sergachev too - both he and Cirelli are RFAs
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need to re-sign Sergachev too - both he and Cirelli are RFAs
Yep
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Stars will win.
idiots.
Cool seeing Stamkos, hope he plays. Doubt he does.
Haha
Why hasn’t Stamkos played - or was it just not stated due to the injury protocols?
you know hockey, they'll never tell you.
He had surgery in March called "core muscle surgery" whatever that means and was supposed to be out for the playoffs (6 - 8 weeks) but then covid happened, and then he got hurt during workouts when they started up, I think a "lower body injury", a couple days ago they showed him skating with the team but Cooper said he's not close.
no idea what's wrong.
Thanks.
It's incredible how good Tampa looks considering they've been missing him.
He came a lot closer to scoring on that play than some people realize. I watched it real time but didn't think it was this close.
Vasilevsky just got a glove on it - that would have been an incredible way to force a game 7.
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Pelech broke his wrist in game 5.... and ended up playing the rest of the game
He's old (37), and who knows if he'll retire or seek work elsewhere, but he's the kind of wily vet who would be attractive to a contender.
and he's still good on the faceoffs. So many coaches would love a reliable veteran center who can win a late game face off and play solid D.
Boston?
He's old (37), and who knows if he'll retire or seek work elsewhere, but he's the kind of wily vet who would be attractive to a contender.
and he's still good on the faceoffs. So many coaches would love a reliable veteran center who can win a late game face off and play solid D.
Boston?
Possibly New York. He can be the 2C/3C stopgap and a mentor to Kakko.
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Koivu not returning to MIN.
He's old (37), and who knows if he'll retire or seek work elsewhere, but he's the kind of wily vet who would be attractive to a contender.
and he's still good on the faceoffs. So many coaches would love a reliable veteran center who can win a late game face off and play solid D.
Boston?
Possibly New York. He can be the 2C/3C stopgap and a mentor to Kakko.
He was a 4C in MIN for the playoffs averaging around 10 min a game, I don't think he's a 2/3C on a contender, maybe a 3C - he could also play PK. - but you're thinking the right way with Kakko (IMO). Canadiens had (have) Lehkonen and Armia to help Kotkaniemi get acclimated. They didn't acquire them for this reason, circumstances dictated it, but it helps.
He's old (37), and who knows if he'll retire or seek work elsewhere, but he's the kind of wily vet who would be attractive to a contender.
and he's still good on the faceoffs. So many coaches would love a reliable veteran center who can win a late game face off and play solid D.
Boston?
Does Boston really need a center? Bergeron, Krejci, and Coyle.
2nd line winger and another defenseman is what they really need.
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Koivu not returning to MIN.
He's old (37), and who knows if he'll retire or seek work elsewhere, but he's the kind of wily vet who would be attractive to a contender.
and he's still good on the faceoffs. So many coaches would love a reliable veteran center who can win a late game face off and play solid D.
Boston?
Does Boston really need a center? Bergeron, Krejci, and Coyle.
2nd line winger and another defenseman is what they really need.
I think BOS could be in for a major shakeup. I wouldn't be shocked to see Krejci traded. 1 year at $7.25M then a UFA.
they need to sign debrusk, krug or grzelcyk and probably add some D b/c they're losing Chara.
and they need a goalie. I've read Tuukka (also in the final year of his deal) as well as Halak (in the final year of his deal) could be moved.
all that said I think Koivu is a 4C on BOS and sometimes 4th line is where you win your SC. Not with flashy stats, but consistent play.
Interesting that there is no clear cut #1.
contrast that with 2022 and you have Shane Wright who is the most hyped #1 since Lindros I wonder if teams try and punt 2021 or maybe just don't get as aggressive. Though as evidenced the past few years, it's impossible to plan for #1.
Lots of early D in 2021 (according to Wheeler) including 5 of his top 10, with Luke Hughes (Quinn and Jack's younger brother) at #10.
I like 6' 5" Owen Power.
Anyway, link below for Athletic subscribers
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I've seen people hype up this Russian kid Michkov for the 2023 Draft. They say he's the next Ovechkin. Kid is only 15.
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puts out his 2021 initial draft prospect rankings.
Interesting that there is no clear cut #1.
contrast that with 2022 and you have Shane Wright who is the most hyped #1 since Lindros I wonder if teams try and punt 2021 or maybe just don't get as aggressive. Though as evidenced the past few years, it's impossible to plan for #1.
Lots of early D in 2021 (according to Wheeler) including 5 of his top 10, with Luke Hughes (Quinn and Jack's younger brother) at #10.
I like 6' 5" Owen Power.
Anyway, link below for Athletic subscribers
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I've seen people hype up this Russian kid Michkov for the 2023 Draft. They say he's the next Ovechkin. Kid is only 15.
Yeah, he's getting a lot of hype, something like 5 goals already in 8 games. I've only seen clips.
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
· 23m
Sources say contract talks between the St Louis Blues and Blues captain, Alex Pietrangelo have broken off. The team has advised Pietrangelo to pursue unrestricted free agency.
Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
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#LeafsForever
are now at the top of Pietrangelo’s list. They will need to shed some salary to make it work, but Alex is willing to take less money to go to Toronto. It would be a dream of his to win a cup for his hometown. #pietrangelo #stlblues
DAL vs TBL
I think these teams are pretty evenly matched, TBL maybe more high end talent with Kucherov, Point and Hedman, but DAL has skill of their own with Seguin, Benn and Heiskanen and is maybe deeper. But TBL rolls 7 on the blue line.
Those who haven't seen him yet, Heiskanen IMO is on par with Makar and Hughes but better overall. Fun player to watch.
Hopefully this series has a lot of OT's and goes 7.
If I had to pick I would want DAL, but I think TBL should be favored.
Moneypuck has it at 52/48 in favor of TBL.
I think TB will win (my hit rate these playoffs is under 50%, so bet the opposite), but am rooting for Dallas.
And agreed, I want a good series more than anything.
tied up 1 - 1
tied up 1 - 1
Finally someone took a blastat the puck and something happened.
Maybe no all-star break and playing into the summer.
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
· 3h
Bettman reiterates what Daly told me and @OvertimeScottB last week: that the NHL still intends to try and play 82 games next season whenever they start...
2 - 1 Stars
rest isn't a bad thing I guess.
I wonder if he gets the gate - giving one up with 10 seconds left in the period.
Sorry, 10 forwards. I eliminated a whole line, lol
I was at that game. :(
Good job of being proven literally immediately wrong lol. Tampa looks incredible.
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What a pussy team the Rangers are.
I was at that game. :(
Gross.
I was at Game 7 2014 Montreal.
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What a pussy team the Rangers are.
I was at that game. :(
Gross.
I was at Game 7 2014 Montreal.
joke? series ended in 6.
Maybe no all-star break and playing into the summer.
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
· 3h
Bettman reiterates what Daly told me and @OvertimeScottB last week: that the NHL still intends to try and play 82 games next season whenever they start...
That’s dumb. Should just play your conference like they did the strike shortened season of 2012 or whenever that was. 4 vs each division and 3 each intradivision so 52 total.
And you can probably have fans If you start mid January
Game 2 tonight. I have my own game so will miss most of it.
08:00pm on NBCSN.
Sort of sad on a Monday night with no new programming other than MNF or American Ninja warrior the NHL can't get carried on a national network.
I see no reason LA doesn't take Byfield at 2, but if they pass on both Byfield and Stutzle they're insane.
And Khudobin is almost playing like Thomas did in 2011.
and a goalie.
I think this will be a boring, forgettable series.
Rumors are Draisaitl.
I think all the finalists earned it, and I wouldn't argue against any of them, but he wouldn't be my pick.
@RobTheHockeyGuy
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Cale Makar has beaten out #Canucks
rookie Quinn Hughes to win the Calder Trophy
@vzmercogliano
#NYR
defenseman Adam Fox finished 4th in the Calder voting.
Yeah, I posted the voting above - he was the only one other than Makar and Hughes to get a 1st place vote.
Nick Suzuki is underappreciated.
@chrismpeters
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Cale Makar is only the second player to win both the Hobey Baker Award and Calder Trophy. Chris Drury is the other. Decent.
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The 2020 Norris Trophy goes to Roman Josi.
#Preds
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Yeah, I posted the voting above - he was the only one other than Makar and Hughes to get a 1st place vote.
Nick Suzuki is underappreciated.
Didn’t deserve to be behind Blackwood and Marino.
@FriedgeHNIC
· 7m
Connor Hellebuyck is your 2020 Vezina Trophy Winner
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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Leon Draisaitl is your Ted Lindsay Award winner for Most Oustanding Player, as voted by the players
@FriedgeHNIC
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Leon Draisaitl is your 2020 Hart Trophy Winner as the NHL’s MVP
@NHLPA
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1st German-born #TedLindsayAward recipient
Art Ross Trophy winner (110 points)
1.55 P/GP (led NHL)
67 assists (led NHL)
@PR_NHL
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Presenting the 2019-20 NHL First All-Star Team.
All six members are receiving “First Team” honors for the first time in their career. The only other time that happened was 1930-31, the first year of NHL All-Star Team selections. #NHLAwards
#NHLStats: https://media.nhl.com/public/news/14
@PR_NHL
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Presenting the 2019-20 Second All-Star Team.
Voting for each All-Star Team was conducted among representatives of the Professional Hockey Writers Association after the conclusion of the regular season. #NHLAwards
@PR_NHL
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Presenting the 2019-20 NHL All-Rookie Team, led by Calder Trophy winner Cale Makar – the only unanimous selection among the 170 ballots cast by the Professional Hockey Writers Association after the conclusion of the regular season. #NHLAwards
#NHLStats: https://media.nhl.com/public/news/14
David Amber
@DavidAmber
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Last game for Steven Stamkos was Feb 25th (before core surgery) - that's 208 days since his last game. If he plays in this series, it will be the longest gap in modern era (1967) for any player prior to playing in SC Final.
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Yeah, I posted the voting above - he was the only one other than Makar and Hughes to get a 1st place vote.
Nick Suzuki is underappreciated.
Ah, missed that, sorry.
Suzuki blew me away in the playoffs.
@JFreshHockey
· 1h
want to know who the hero who voted for Adam Fox is twitter.com/wyshynski/stat…
@WPGMurat
I voted for Adam Fox.
I leaned on a) his extreme impact on shots and chances at both ends of the ice and b) NYR's disorganized defence compared to VAN and COL.
I think Fox's impact was wildly impressive given team context and I didn't drag him much for his TOI or point total.
No Schenn or Bogosian.
sort of A cappella
TBL up 1 - 0
TBL to the PP, stupid penalty by Oleksiak
2 - 0 TBL, another PP goal
Much akin to my portfolio after today.
15 seconds of 4v4 then DAL to the PP
DAL back to the PP
DAL back to the PP
Sorry Coleman was the victim, Gourde gets the 2min sticking up for Coleman. Gourde looked like a little kid going after Oleksiak.
Klinberg makes quick work with the goal off the faceoff. Maybe tipped by Pavelski.
3 - 1 TBL
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@JFreshHockey
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want to know who the hero who voted for Adam Fox is twitter.com/wyshynski/stat…
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Murat Ates
@WPGMurat
I voted for Adam Fox.
I leaned on a) his extreme impact on shots and chances at both ends of the ice and b) NYR's disorganized defence compared to VAN and COL.
I think Fox's impact was wildly impressive given team context and I didn't drag him much for his TOI or point total.
I think Fox was a distant third of the three dmen, but I’m glad he gave his reasoning.
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Dom Luszczyszyn defended his decision to leave Draisatl, Carlson, and Coultier off his ballots for Hart, Norris, and Selke respectively. I thought it was an interesting read.
I think people make too much of some of the weird outlier votes - I totally missed DeAngelo getting a Norris vote, for example. Although I disagree with some of the winners, none of them were insane.
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And the golf outing stuff sounded like a pain in the ass.
As someone who has gone on long-term travel (2 months in Australia for example) it seems like a first world problem, but eating out at the same places gets tiring every night, but definitely an inconvenience more than a major problem.
Tony D actually got three votes. I saw Tony D respond on Twitter to Greg and I loved it - I like his twitter persona even though it may be his ticket out of NY.
@wyshynski
Folks ... Drew Doughty and Tony DeAngelo hit the ballot.
Tony DeAngelo
@TonyDee07
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19h
Greg i only got 1 4th place votes and 2 5ths. The world isn’t ending. It’s going to be ok! Also drew doughty down year or not he’s still one of the best. Little more respect for him no??
@wyshynski
Replying to
@TonyDee07
Not only that, you were on my colleague @lindacohn
's ballot!
I didn't think you nor Drew had a Norris worthy season. I was surprised you hit the top five. Others felt otherwise. That's why 171 of us vote.
@TonyDee07
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19h
Thank you @lindacohn
! You know more than your colleague Greg, that’s for sure.
And again, the NHL up against reality TV can't get a prime time game.
I think TB is the better team this series, but Dallas really turned it on after the first.
Yeah, he's a dick. I love that TDA called him out.
Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
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33m
** Breaking News**
As per what I’m told - the @penguins
are trading F Patric Hornqvist to @FlaPanthers
in exchange for D Mike Matheson. @NHL
@NHLNetwork
.
Dylan Griffing
@Dylan_Griffing
·
14m
A source very close to me has stated that #Penguins GM Jim Rutherford is heavily interested in #Blackhawks
defenseman, Duncan Keith, if the Matheson deal falls through.
Dan Kingerski
@TheDanKingerski
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6m
Per Penguins source, the reason for the trade holdup:
The Penguins have been unable to reach Patric Hornqvist to make sure he approves the trade to Florida.
Game 3 of the Stanley Cup after 6 months off.
Not sure what to expect, but if he's a shell of himself good for TBL bad for DAL (captain obvious?)
1 - 0 TBL
TBL up 2 - 0
Lighting go nuts.
TBL up 2 - 0
Lighting go nuts.
Looked like Khudobin lost his net there a little, was hugging the post
I feel like TBL has seized the momentum, they are as complete a team I can remember since the Oilers or Islanders dynasties.
They'll have some cap issues to deal with, but they are stacked all over the lineup.
Dallas a solid all around team too, but seems like Khudobin might be turning into a pumpkin, see if he can regain the magic tomorrow night.
I feel like TBL has seized the momentum, they are as complete a team I can remember since the Oilers or Islanders dynasties.
They'll have some cap issues to deal with, but they are stacked all over the lineup.
Dallas a solid all around team too, but seems like Khudobin might be turning into a pumpkin, see if he can regain the magic tomorrow night.
Yeah, Dobbie looked a little sluggish out there. I'm a little concerned about the back-to-back games this weekend and really don't want to see Bishop back in but who knows. Maybe that's what they need
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kind of a dud so far as SCF goes, though game 2 ending was good.
I feel like TBL has seized the momentum, they are as complete a team I can remember since the Oilers or Islanders dynasties.
They'll have some cap issues to deal with, but they are stacked all over the lineup.
Dallas a solid all around team too, but seems like Khudobin might be turning into a pumpkin, see if he can regain the magic tomorrow night.
Yeah, Dobbie looked a little sluggish out there. I'm a little concerned about the back-to-back games this weekend and really don't want to see Bishop back in but who knows. Maybe that's what they need
I didn't follow DAL goalie situation this year, was Bishop hurt or did he just lose his job?
If healthy, isn't Bishop the better goalie (playoff performance of Khudobin (where he was fantastic until the past couple games) notwithstanding)
TBL: I did not believe their team could play the physical game as well as they have. Most astonishing (to a NYR fan) is to see McDonagh and Shatt doing it, and doing it well. Hedman is so all-around, the backliners don't make a lot of mistakes in their own end, Sergachev, yes (some stinkers v Bruins), but really young. Kuch, Pointe, and Palaat... Killorn, Marroon, Goodrow, Paquette,and Coleman are just so tough in the corners and along the boards, no quarter given, complementary glue for the talent.
She's no spring chicken (39--that's robbing her from the cradle for me (:), but she looks really good.
More to the point of MSNBC's coverage: she's poised, articulate, knows the game well enough, quick with transitions, interjections and questions that keep the studio flow running smoothly, she drives that bus. I don't see one hint of condescension from Sharp, Jones, Carter, etc.
She's no spring chicken (39--that's robbing her from the cradle for me (:), but she looks really good.
More to the point of MSNBC's coverage: she's poised, articulate, knows the game well enough, quick with transitions, interjections and questions that keep the studio flow running smoothly, she drives that bus. I don't see one hint of condescension from Sharp, Jones, Carter, etc.
she's great at her job and yes, attractive, but physically too tall IMO. I never realized it until last draft lottery when I saw her towering over Jack Hughes. I think she's 5' 10" at least.
I feel like TBL has seized the momentum, they are as complete a team I can remember since the Oilers or Islanders dynasties.
They'll have some cap issues to deal with, but they are stacked all over the lineup.
Dallas a solid all around team too, but seems like Khudobin might be turning into a pumpkin, see if he can regain the magic tomorrow night.
You are comparing this team to those dynasty teams? Really?
I mean are they even as good as the Detroit teams in the 90s?
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kind of a dud so far as SCF goes, though game 2 ending was good.
I feel like TBL has seized the momentum, they are as complete a team I can remember since the Oilers or Islanders dynasties.
They'll have some cap issues to deal with, but they are stacked all over the lineup.
Dallas a solid all around team too, but seems like Khudobin might be turning into a pumpkin, see if he can regain the magic tomorrow night.
You are comparing this team to those dynasty teams? Really?
I mean are they even as good as the Detroit teams in the 90s?
I'm comparing this version as how well rounded they are, not the accomplishments. It's a different era with the salary cap, so they may not win even 1 cup, but what is the TBL weakness?
Kucherov and Stamkos (when healthy) are perennial hart candidates.
Hedman is a perennial norris candidate
vasilevsky is a perennial vezina candidate.
Point might be their best player
and they have depth at F after those three - Gourde, Palat, Killorn, Johnson, etc.
and their blue line is stacked after Hedman - McDonagh, Sergachev, Cernak, Shattenkirk
can you name a deeper and more balanced team in recent memory?
@PierreVLeBrun
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10m
Trade call just wrapped up: Colton Seviour and Mike Matheson to Pittsburgh for Hornqvist, sources say
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kind of a dud so far as SCF goes, though game 2 ending was good.
I feel like TBL has seized the momentum, they are as complete a team I can remember since the Oilers or Islanders dynasties.
They'll have some cap issues to deal with, but they are stacked all over the lineup.
Dallas a solid all around team too, but seems like Khudobin might be turning into a pumpkin, see if he can regain the magic tomorrow night.
You are comparing this team to those dynasty teams? Really?
I mean are they even as good as the Detroit teams in the 90s?
I'm comparing this version as how well rounded they are, not the accomplishments. It's a different era with the salary cap, so they may not win even 1 cup, but what is the TBL weakness?
Kucherov and Stamkos (when healthy) are perennial hart candidates.
Hedman is a perennial norris candidate
vasilevsky is a perennial vezina candidate.
Point might be their best player
and they have depth at F after those three - Gourde, Palat, Killorn, Johnson, etc.
and their blue line is stacked after Hedman - McDonagh, Sergachev, Cernak, Shattenkirk
can you name a deeper and more balanced team in recent memory?
Just off the top of my head, the Hawks won 3 Cups all in the free agent/salary cap era.
But thanks for clarifying.
I look at TBL and see a deep, balanced team.
Historically, when a Cup finals is knotted at 1, the team who wins game 3 LOSES more than wins - most recently BOS last year - who also won game 3 in dominant fashion (7 - 2), so DAL should not panic.
but they really need Khudobin to be superhuman like he was earlier in the playoffs.
Teams don't get much rest with a rare SCF back to back and game 5 is Saturday night.
I look at TBL and see a deep, balanced team.
I was having this discussion with a friend recently: I think the Lightning and Capitals had a superior collection of teams to both the Blackhawks and Penguins over the preceding decade. Just requires a ton of luck to win a Cup even if you have the best team in the league.
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
· 22m
Expect the Ottawa Senators to place Bobby Ryan on waivers for the purpose of a buyout.
Perhaps that combo are not negligible attributes. And it seems clear this is the way franchises are leaning in how they handicap their keepers ('cept maybe in the case of Shestyorkin). This may even produce, on an analytics basis, higher save % and lower GPG: results oriented.
All good, yes? Except that to me it lessens the fun of, the art of, the position, because what is being sought is simply the blade in front of snowplows. Am I the only one to see it this way?
Sure, size is an advantage, but I don't think (to be hyperbolic) you can put the fat kid in net and expect results.
IOW I still think Dominik Hasek would still dominate today and he's hardly a big body goalie and he was definitely not a butterfly goalie.
Most goalies today are hybrids, like Carey Price and to be a hybrid goalie you have to be athletic.
To your point though if I understand it right, a stand-up goalie, if any more existed, would struggle today.
But I also think a pure butterfly goalie would too - the top part of the net is too exposed and today's shooters too good - they'd make you pay.
Haven't seen $$$
Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
· 4m
BREAKING: Four more years for Jeff Petry!
#GoHabsGo
Haven't seen $$$
Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
· 4m
BREAKING: Four more years for Jeff Petry!
#GoHabsGo
6.25M per, fair deal for Petry
1 - 0 DAL
2 - 0 Stars.
2 - 1 DAL. 30+ seconds left.
backbreaker (even though DAL is leading)
yeah, I still think TBL looked like the better team, but Khudobin made some saves like he had been earlier in the series.
Clean hit and unlike most 2020 NHL players Kiviranta got back up and skated away to get back to the play.
3 - 2 DAL, big goal.
lol yeah, I could have scored that one
~90 seconds left in 2nd, Tampa ties it
not a snoozer.
That might be one of the worst calls I've ever seen.
On offense, at least
Hopefully last two lotteries overcoming all these egregious mistakes
Colby Cohen
@ColbyCohen36
· 9h
13 points, +11, 2 GWGs in 3 wins so far in the #StanleyCupFinals for #GoBolts
. Pretty impressive playoff run for Kevin Shattenkirk, who bet on himself with a 1 year lower money deal with other longer more lucrative offers. Way to go @shattdeuces
Never saw him play with quite the fierce determination and physicality when in NYR uniform. Playing at a very high level
Not Lundqvist. :(
He was the Rangers player I expected the most from (or maybe Kreider).
Miller has carved out a nice career as a top 6 forward and a great defensive center, but I thought he'd be all-star caliber.
Maybe he was this past year in VAN putting up over 1 ppg while being solid defensively and great on the dots.
Possible handshakes game in an SCF that so far has lacked drama - other than one poorly officiated OT.
08:00pm on NBC, TBL up 3 - 1
5 min almost and TBL goes to the PP.
1 - 0 Dallas
1 - 1
Kucherov? Hedman?
Kucherov has the most assist in a single playoffs other than Gretzky (4 better playoffs) and Lemieux (1 better)
But I think Point has been TBL best player.
Imagine trading that guy for Jonathan Drouin?
2 - 1 TBL, 16 left.
It is going to be so lame to see Tampa Bay (if they win tonight) skating around an empty arena with the Stanley Cup.
lol, scroll up, Brett and I were just discussing.
I think Kucherov probably gets it, but Point has been their best player.
I think the two games the Islanders won were the two Point missed.
Case can be made for Hedman too.
Or Chris Chandler
He has had an incredible playoff. I thought he was cooked.
Gretzky all time leader with 122
Gretzky all time leader with 122
Just passed Mullen. I would have guessed Modano was first - he had 58, so I was close.
lol, I am, nothing like sudden death OT.
Not sure who got their stick on it.
Not sure who got their stick on it.
I did too.
These goalies look tired to me.
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Kucherov was going to end it right there.
Not sure who got their stick on it.
I did too.
These goalies look tired to me.
Seems like Kucherov has been on the ice the whole OT so far
Olcyck almost laughed.
Between the trip and the blown icing call, that was pretty bad.
Seemed like Tampa was in the Dallas end for the entire period, but still alive.
I don't know who Tampa's is but isn't Dallas' Ben Bishop?
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I couldn't even tell you who either backup goalie is in this series off the top of my head.
I don't know who Tampa's is but isn't Dallas' Ben Bishop?
No, Bishop is the starter. I believe he's still "unfit to play" That was makes Khudobin so much more of a story, he's the backup goalie (and a pretty good but unremarkable one until this year)
Offsides?
God damm it. Why am I so sexy?
One thing that impresses me about TB, watching them night after night since during the Islanders series and a chunk of BB, is how quickly each of their lines exits the offensive zone to avoid delayed offsides and then near instantaneously initiate new attack, via hard skating and quick reaction time. Yes, they have a ton of star power, but they are playing very disciplined, hard nosed game. Cooper is a whiny, dislikable xxxx, but I give him credit for instilling game in TB's game.
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not sure why he was so far away from the goal. He tried to fly back in there and hit Perry but it was too late.
That scrum seemed to materialize out of nothing, it did not look to me like an especially promising entry. Two OT games in two nights, mental fatigue piled on physical fatigue. Hedman has had a terrific series.
The OT play was so sloppy. Guys were making lazy plays, getting way out of position. You saw a lot of mental errors.
I wish they gave them two days off at this point in the series.
Game 6 of the Stanley Cup final tonight.
Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
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1m
Although the #rangers will try to get Pietrangelo, he’s unlikely to sign. His first choice as of now is the #leafsforever
and “hopes” they are able to make the necessary moves to make room for him.
and FA starts right afterwards (I believe on October 9)
Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
·
6m
According to @MurphysLaw74
the Florida Panthers are trying to trade for Krugs negotiating rights. We are hearing that Winnipeg is in this as well.
@PuckReportNHL
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9m
The Philadelphia Flyers have made Shayne Gostisbehere available for trade, per @PierreVLeBrun
. Adds: “For all the trade rumors linked to him in the past, this is really the first time #AnytimeAnywhere
have shown a serious willingness to move him if they get the right offer.”
Not sure a specific location, but in general, seems like he will be moved.
Same thing I asked. Apparently with only one year on his deal, and a surplus of wings, WIN is looking to deal from a strength and Laine will need to be paid. a lot. I think it would take a massive offer to land Laine, but sounds like Laine or Ehlers will be moved (or could be moved).
Also, rumblings about Laine's attitude, but I hesitate to share things like that beyond a casual mention, because who knows if it's true.
Askarov is making a mad dash up draft boards with his KHL play (3 starts, 0.74 GAA and .974 save percent - ridiculously SSS but video game numbers).
Also kind of funny Jan Mysak, once a late 1st/early to mid 2nd guy - is 12, the Habs can't even get him if he goes #12.
Here is his 1st round
First Round
1) Alexis Lafrenière, LW, Rimouski Océanic (QMJHL)
2) Quinton Byfield, C, Sudbury Wolves (OHL)
3) Tim Stützle, C, Adler Mannheim (DEL)
4) Lucas Raymond, RW, Frölunda HC (SHL)
5) Jamie Drysdale, D, Erie Otters (OHL)
6) Marco Rossi, C, Ottawa 67s (OHL)
7) Alexander Holtz, RW, Djurgårdens (SHL)
8) Cole Perfetti, LW, Saginaw Spirit (OHL)
9) Anton Lundell, C, HIFK (Liiga)
10) Yaroslav Askarov, G, SKA-Neva St. Petersburg (VHL)
11) Rodion Amirov, LW, Salavat Yulaev Ufa (KHL)
12) Jan Myšák, LW, Hamilton Bulldogs (OHL)
13) Dylan Holloway, C/W, University of Wisconsin (NCAA)
14) Noel Gunler, LW/RW, Luleå HF (SHL)
15) Jake Sanderson, D, U.S. U18 (NTDP)
16) Connor Zary, C, Kamloops Blazers (WHL)
17) Seth Jarvis, RW, Portland Winterhawks (WHL)
18) Jack Quinn, RW, Ottawa 67s (OHL)
19) Dawson Mercer, RW, Drummondville Voltigeurs (QMJHL)
20) Mavrik Bourque, C, Shawinigan Cataractes (QMJHL)
21) Hendrix Lapierre, C, Chicoutimi Sagueneens (QMJHL)
22) Lukas Cormier, D, Charlottetown Islanders (QMJHL)
23) John-Jason Peterka, LW, EHC München (DEL)
24) Kaiden Guhle, D, Prince Albert Raiders (WHL)
25) William Wallinder, D, MODO Hockey J20 (SuperElit)
26) Jacob Perreault, C/RW, Sarnia Sting (OHL)
27) Braden Schneider, D, Brandon Wheat Kings (WHL)
28) Emil Andrae, D, HV71 J20 (SuperElit)
29) Vasily Ponomaryov, C, Shawinigan Cataractes (QMJHL)
30) Justin Barron, D, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL)
31) Zion Nybeck, RW, HV71 J20 (SuperElit)
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and FA starts right afterwards (I believe on October 9)
Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
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6m
According to @MurphysLaw74
the Florida Panthers are trying to trade for Krugs negotiating rights. We are hearing that Winnipeg is in this as well.
Good move by the B's to get at least something for Krug, as they aren't going to resign him.
Hoping for a Dallas win tonight!!!!
Also saw something on Twitter saying the league is targeting a December 1 start date. That will be brutal on the Finals teams. 3.5 month break down to 2.
I think TB closes it out tonight. Rooting for the opposite. Fortunately my hit rate these playoffs is below 50%.
Laine to the Flyers or Islanders makes sense to me if they can put a package together.
I doubt that happens, but he's being hailed as the best goalie prospect since Price (#5 overall).
In some (rare) scenarios Ottawa winds up with Byfield and Stutzle. If that happens OTT easily has the best prospect pool - better than NYR and LAK IMO.
I doubt that happens though, I think Byfield goes #2 (and he should).
Hall is the type of player MTL needs if they say they are in "win now" mode.
Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
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19m
No one is really talking about Taylor Hall, #redwings #flames #gohabsgo are front runners.
to save you from reading the twitter thread, it basically says Eichel didn't demand a trade and the Sabres aren't shopping him, but they didn't hang up when called.
Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
· 15m
Imagine my surprise when I started making calls today and heard Jack Eichel trade rumours, including unverified chatter he may have at some point recently requested a trade out of BUF and that NYR were amongst interested teams. This, of course, required further investigation.
to save you from reading the twitter thread, it basically says Eichel didn't demand a trade and the Sabres aren't shopping him, but they didn't hang up when called.
Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
· 15m
Imagine my surprise when I started making calls today and heard Jack Eichel trade rumours, including unverified chatter he may have at some point recently requested a trade out of BUF and that NYR were amongst interested teams. This, of course, required further investigation.
Zibanejad, DeAngelo, and the second first rounder for Eichel. And another piece, I'd think. Do it.
Something like TDA and #1 for Eichel.
And don't forget Eichel is tied up long term at big $$$ - 6 more years at $10M per.
Everything I've read points to them being in range for a few centers.
Do you think Mysak could fall that far?
Something like TDA and #1 for Eichel.
And don't forget Eichel is tied up long term at big $$$ - 6 more years at $10M per.
No. Fantastic player, but impossible to fit him in in this flat cap era. Lafreniere is not only valuable as a player, but as a contract. I mean you would love to have Lafreniere reach Eichel's level of production, but 10M per is just unfeasible.
How do you afford them though?
Something like TDA and #1 for Eichel.
And don't forget Eichel is tied up long term at big $$$ - 6 more years at $10M per.
No, Lafreniere is probably the only untouchable for me. But even that's a tough no. I think Eichel is that good. It just seems like there's a high probability Lafreniere is an All Star caliber player - and we get that cost controlled.
Kakko is probably second closest to untouchable for me - it would have to almost be straight up for me to be okay with it.
I suspect I'm on the extreme side of what I'm willing to give up for Eichel, though.
How do you afford them though?
I think Zibanejad would have to go in an Eichel deal. Maybe to a third team.
Figuring out a way to parlay Zibanejad and some extra pieces into Eichel would be a huge win.
I think after the top two tiers (maybe 5 or 6 players) you have about 10 - 12 players who are interchanegable - making it seem "deep" all the way to 15 - 18 players. But some of those guys in the top 15 - 18 (and most after) are very polarizing. Some say "that guy should be top 15" and others say "I'm not taking him anywhere in the first round" for the same player.
Not having the showcases and tournaments has made this year more of a crapshoot IMO and hurt players who would have moved up from March to June. That development and growth for some players from 17 - 18 is significant.
So, for me, if I was NYR, I'd package the second #1 pick to bring in a top 4 D or 2C.
If Kravtsov is staying at wing, I'd look at acquire a 2c via trade.
If they do make the pick I'd absolutely take Mysak there or someone like Hendrix Lapierre (perfect example of what I mentioned above) - and I like Dawson Mercer and Dylan Holloway. Kaden Guhle if they go D (6' 2" LD).
This is from Pronman's athletic article on this topic about Lapierre (but almost all the players available at this spot will be in this category):
Scout in favor: “He has so much skill and he’s a very smart player. It’s first-round skill all day. At the Hlinka Gretzky, he looked like a top-10 pick. If he looks healthy again, I realize there’s some risk, but I think you got to go after him in the first round at some point; there’s too much player there.”
Scout against: “I wouldn’t use a top-50 pick on him. The injuries … the two goals in 19 games, his game lacks pace. He looks healthy now and then you use a high pick and in two or three years those issues always seem to pop back up again. At some point it becomes worth it, but that point will be later than where he’ll likely go.”
How do you afford them though?
Draisaitl and McDavid ($21M between the two for the next 5 years) - and then like the Oilers you struggle to field a team.
But the Rangers have a much deeper and better prospect pool and goalie situation.
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Eichel and Zibby as your top two centers? Wow. Can anyone top that kind of strength up the middle?
How do you afford them though?
Draisaitl and McDavid ($21M between the two for the next 5 years) - and then like the Oilers you struggle to field a team.
But the Rangers have a much deeper and better prospect pool and goalie situation.
And we're already paying Panarin like 12M per and we know he's not going anywhere.
That's why it's a risk. He had 3 concussions in 2019 alone.
There was an article about him being "the most unpredictable prospect" back in April.
That's a risk IMO, if they make the pick (which I probably wouldn't - depending on who falls), a team like the NYR can take.
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I mean I don't know him from Adam, but he had what? 2 concussions? And he's only 17/18?
That's why it's a risk. He had 3 concussions in 2019 alone.
There was an article about him being "the most unpredictable prospect" back in April.
That's a risk IMO, if they make the pick (which I probably wouldn't - depending on who falls), a team like the NYR can take.
I wouldn't. At least not in the first round. I don't care if he's the second coming of McDavid. 3 concussions is insane.
I think Zibanejad's great, but giving him $10+ million in predominately over 30 years scares me.
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Zibanejad plus for Eichel? That's one where my heart says no but my head says yes. I'm not sure Eichel is that much better than Zibby but he IS several years younger.
I think Zibanejad's great, but giving him $10+ million in predominately over 30 years scares me.
Same
If 2019-2020 is any indication of what you can expect from Zibanejad then it makes no sense you are not getting better IMO you're just shuffling players.
I do think Eichel is better or will be better (and is younger - Eichel is still just 23 years old), but then you still have no 2C and less money to get one.
If 2019-2020 is any indication of what you can expect from Zibanejad then it makes no sense you are not getting better IMO you're just shuffling players.
I do think Eichel is better or will be better (and is younger - Eichel is still just 23 years old), but then you still have no 2C and less money to get one.
I think Eichel is better than Zibanejad. I think Zibanejad is also mediocre defensively.
Age is the biggest factor, though.
I also think Chytil can fill the 2C position. More importantly, I think we need to figure out whether he can or not - you can address that the following off-season when you might be ready to actually compete if things go well.
Also, I think Greg feels strongly that Howden can fill in the 2C position just fine...
I think Chytil is more a 3C. And some people feel for a 1st round pick that's a bad outcome, if that is the outcome (and certainly it may not be), it's NOT a bad outcome.
Kravtsov can be the 2C IMO, but would need development time - and I think it's perfectly fine for a young guy to develop in the NHL, but try telling an NHL coach that. lol. It's why you see guys like Nate Thompson get rolled out on a regular shift by coaches like Julien and Vigneault while younger guys like Kotkaniemi are in the press box or AHL. What happened in the playoffs? Kotkaniemi skated circles around Thompson making both coaches look foolish.
And I hate the AHL for a young prospect. It's loaded with primarily (long term) bottom 6 NHL players or even career AHL guys who are generally much older and less skilled than the prospects.
Outside of those two if the Rangers can somehow get Eichel and keep Zibby and add a top 4 D, they're probably favorites in the Metro give or take with CAR and probably NYI depending on their off-seasons.
This is an area I'd love to be more educated on around prospect development. As fans we all bemoan the GM when someone like Lias Andersson doesn't perform to expectations right away or Ryan Poehling for a non-Rangers example, but what should the teams do with premium pick prospects to help them develop and as importantly protect your investment.
I feel like staying in country for non-North American prospects makes the most sense, the SHL (Sweden), SM-Liiga (Finland), KHL (Russia) are all better for development than the AHL IMO. The AHL reminds me of the Federal league from Slapshot and all the good prospects are Braden. If you want a guy to just learn defensive discipline or get used to the physical play of the NHL, sure, send them to the AHL, but don't look at their stat totals and judge their performance. I watched Kotkaniemi and Suzuki in the AHL last year or two and they had to slow down for their linemates.
For Canadian and American prospects, I think the NCAA and/or CHL makes so much more sense than going pro to play in the NHL (until players age out of the CHL at least at 21). You are going up against your peer group or only slightly older. Look at Jack Hughes last year - and most people weren't impressed, but he was 18 years old at 5' 10" (on skates IMO) 160 pounds playing hockey against men.
Only 9 career games.
A little like Kiviranta on the Stars.
Pronman had Stützle moving to 2nd off the board, ahead of Byfield in his draft issue late last week.
The NHL scouts' takes (vs. the team GMs' takes that formed the basis for the mock) were at some serious odds with some of the selections, as pj indicated on certain of the 'draftees'.
But later Klinberg tripped Volkov - Lightning back to the PP.
TBL up 1 - 0
Nice pass by Kucherov on the entry, no clue how Point had that much room, even on the PP
2 - 0 TBL, 13 left in the second.
Stars to the PP down 2
Dumb play
"Interesting" strategy by the Stars. They gave a grand total of 8 shots on net through 2 periods and half of them came on one PP.
Would be something to see them come out really aggressive in the 3rd as they lulled TBL into a false sense of security with the rope a dope
Or is this your run-of-the-mill snorefest Stanley Cup game clincher? Just like nearly every year.
Or is this your run-of-the-mill snorefest Stanley Cup game clincher? Just like nearly every year.
Nothing.
Dallas playing conservative, even down 2 - 0 halfway through the 3rd.
8 min left in the game
DAL to the PP still down 2.
Citrus & Smooth
Who is Conn Smythe?
It should be Point IMO - and maybe tonights goal shifts it to him.
Hedman next for me, Vasilevsky and Kucherov also have a case.
Seems like often there is a guy who plays on back to back championships with different teams.
Happy for Shattenkirk and McDonagh. McDonagh really deserved one.
I agree with you, I’d have given it to Point.
Are they allowed to kiss the cup or are there more dumbass rules?
From what I've read it basically takes all summer to schedule each guy to get time with the cup.
side note, after the Kings beat the Rangers in 2014, Jonathan Quick brought the cup to my home town hockey rink (he played youth hockey and a couple years of high school before going to Avon Old Town in my town)
Too soon.
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after the Kings beat the Rangers in 2014
Too soon.
lol, Habs win the cup if Kreider doesn't run into Price, so sorry, but not sorry.
I don't know if they were better than NYR with Price or not, but it would definitely be a better series with him.
I do think they matched up better with LAK.
Rangers could have won if they got a few 3rd period or OT breaks even though they were outplayed.
Rangers could have won if they got a few 3rd period or OT breaks even though they were outplayed.
Subban and Markov were both playing over 26 min ppg.
they were gassed. I think the F's were ok.
There was a garbage can on the ice?
Either way, I stand tall like Hedman and you're just a little annoying Gary Bettman in the photo.
often times I felt like I was just having a conversation with myself until you came along.
now we have one week until the draft, so brush up on your prospect talk.
That was odd that Bettman was in the photo. They took the traditional photo later on.
That was odd that Bettman was in the photo. They took the traditional photo later on.
Yes, I think so - should I start it now - a week out or wait?
You know me, I'll talk hockey all day, even to myself lol
Oct 9 is free agency.
I'll leave it to you and Route 9 - after the draft, we can do a free agency one. There may be some trades starting to formulate pre-draft.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1310777998875004928
Yes, I think so - should I start it now - a week out or wait?
You know me, I'll talk hockey all day, even to myself lol
On the other hand, NYG threads are prone to drying up in this climate, so maybe not as much of an issue... lulz )>:
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Yes, I think so - should I start it now - a week out or wait?
You know me, I'll talk hockey all day, even to myself lol
The problem with starting it now is (for me at any rate) you have to start digging for a thread contributor's name to locate the thread.
On the other hand, NYG threads are prone to drying up in this climate, so maybe not as much of an issue... lulz )>:
Just sort by last post, I'm sure it will stay on or near the first page until next Tuesday, or if not, maybe someone will start a draft thread for the draft itself