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pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 9:31 pm
day 1 halfway done. Figured I''d start a thread for not just the Rangers games.

Rangers and Canes were rusty on specials (though CAR looked much better), 1 for 14 combined on the PP. Good intensity though, hard hitting game. I thought Hank was great.

I didn't see any of NYI vs FLA, but the score is about what I'd expect from a Trotz team.

PIT came out like a house on fire, Price stood tall and MTL's two youngsters, Kotkaniemi and Suzuki have the Habs with a 2 - 0 lead. momentum is starting to shift to MTL, but PIT can score quickly. MTL defense is a massive Achilles heel.

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OT  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 6:37 pm : link
for WAS vs TBL.

These teams hate each other. I guess any team with Tom Wilson gets hated on by every other team though.

regular season OT for the round robin games, unlike the play-in games (like MTL vs PIT) which have playoff OT.
TBL vs WAS  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 6:46 pm : link
going to a shootout.

Vegas beating DAL 1 - 0 in a West conference round robin game.
TBL  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 6:51 pm : link
with the shootout win
Washington/ Tampa Bay  
Route 9 : 8/3/2020 6:52 pm : link
was a solid game. Majority of these games have been a good watch. Feels like NHL Playoff hockey, except for the Rangers two turd performances. I do not get why anybody would be excited for the future regarding this team. They're pathetic...


Like most New York sports.
Habs  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 8:28 pm : link
D breakdown, Crosby beats Price five hole.

Pens 1 - 0. Habs had been taking the play to the Pens the first part of the period.
Malkin  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 8:35 pm : link
so much more active already 8 min in to game 2 than all of game 1.
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 8:43 pm : link
likely have the worst PP in the league.

Drouin turned it over twice on the PP, both bad, once in his own zone.

their zone entry is a dump in.
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 8:49 pm : link
2nd too many men on the ice penalty this period.
Vegas  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 8:50 pm : link
with two goals in 90 seconds to tie up the Stars at 3 in the 3rd.
Vegas came all the way  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 9:15 pm : link
back. From down 3 - 1 almost halfway through the 3rd, they won 5 - 3.
Carey Price  
Route 9 : 8/3/2020 9:38 pm : link
how in the world did that not go in?
RE: Washington/ Tampa Bay  
MetsAreBack : 8/3/2020 9:43 pm : link
In comment 14943346 Route 9 said:
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was a solid game. Majority of these games have been a good watch. Feels like NHL Playoff hockey, except for the Rangers two turd performances. I do not get why anybody would be excited for the future regarding this team. They're pathetic...


Like most New York sports.


12% shot at #1 pick? Cut them some slack ... Carolina is a good team, the goalie has been ‘unfit to play’ And they’d been playing good hockey up until the shutdown. It’s disappointing but shit happens. Hopefully Carolina loses next round so we get two decent draft picks
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 9:47 pm : link
5th penalty of the game.

5 on 3 now for half a min
Sorry  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 9:48 pm : link
MTL 7th penalty of the game.
Price has been ridiculous  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:02 pm : link
through 5 periods.

MTL has had almost no scoring chances.
15 seconds  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:18 pm : link
into the 3rd MTL best scoring chance, Matt Murray robbed Tatar.
RE: .  
BrettNYG10 : 8/3/2020 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14943336 Kyle in NY said:
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Really impressed with the quality of the games. I thought there might be a feeling out period, or a lack of intensity. Hasn't been the case at all and the lack of fans hasn't affected the atmosphere much at all outside of the obvious goal with goal celebrations. Feels like playoff hockey.

I think the arenas look great too. Love the video boards and the tarps were a good idea

Full marks to the NHL


I'm shocked it looks like they'll pull it off - announced zero positive tests this week. I thought it was unlikely they would pull it off, they deserve a ton of credit.
Nice goal...  
trueblueinpw : 8/3/2020 10:41 pm : link
Habs were buzzing but just could not convert.
awful  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:41 pm : link
pinch by Kulak (who has had a good game) and pens convert the resulting 2 on 1, take a likely insurmountable 2 - 1 lead with 5 min left.
Sorry  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:42 pm : link
2 - 0 lead
Now 2 - 1  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:45 pm : link
Kotkaniemi bangs home a rebound
MTL  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:47 pm : link
takes their TO, net is empty, just over 1 min left.
RE: RE: .  
MetsAreBack : 8/3/2020 10:48 pm : link
In comment 14943481 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 14943336 Kyle in NY said:


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Really impressed with the quality of the games. I thought there might be a feeling out period, or a lack of intensity. Hasn't been the case at all and the lack of fans hasn't affected the atmosphere much at all outside of the obvious goal with goal celebrations. Feels like playoff hockey.

I think the arenas look great too. Love the video boards and the tarps were a good idea

Full marks to the NHL



I'm shocked it looks like they'll pull it off - announced zero positive tests this week. I thought it was unlikely they would pull it off, they deserve a ton of credit.


It’s still early. Cautiously optimistic but this isn’t a bubble right?
It helps 8 teams are leaving this week. But there is still risk if one of these cities starts to see a rise in cases
Pens  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:50 pm : link
ice it with the ENG.

Even the series at 1. game 3 Wednesday night.
Would have been funny if Habs scored on the Letang icing  
trueblueinpw : 8/3/2020 10:51 pm : link
Pens are just too much for this Montreal team.
RE: RE: RE: .  
BrettNYG10 : 8/3/2020 10:55 pm : link
In comment 14943492 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 14943481 BrettNYG10 said:


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In comment 14943336 Kyle in NY said:


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Really impressed with the quality of the games. I thought there might be a feeling out period, or a lack of intensity. Hasn't been the case at all and the lack of fans hasn't affected the atmosphere much at all outside of the obvious goal with goal celebrations. Feels like playoff hockey.

I think the arenas look great too. Love the video boards and the tarps were a good idea

Full marks to the NHL



I'm shocked it looks like they'll pull it off - announced zero positive tests this week. I thought it was unlikely they would pull it off, they deserve a ton of credit.



It’s still early. Cautiously optimistic but this isn’t a bubble right?
It helps 8 teams are leaving this week. But there is still risk if one of these cities starts to see a rise in cases


Yeah, and I get a little worried there might be some complacency and people get lax.

I don't know how the "bubble" apparently works.
MAB, Have you seen the areas around the bubbles?  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 10:58 pm : link
it's actually a pretty cool set up. I'm not even sure a local flare up would get in, possible I guess - they're all humans, but I think the controls are solid. And being away from your family sucks for the players but Toronto looks cool.



RE: RE: RE: .  
trueblueinpw : 8/3/2020 10:59 pm : link
In comment 14943492 MetsAreBack said:
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It’s still early. Cautiously optimistic but this isn’t a bubble right?
It helps 8 teams are leaving this week. But there is still risk if one of these cities starts to see a rise in cases


There’s two bubbles, Toronto and Edmonton.
I listened to an interview  
pjcas18 : 8/3/2020 11:00 pm : link
with some Bruins players (Joakim Nordstrom and one other) and he said it's not bad, and actually pretty fun. Said he was walking out to the soccer stadium to kick the ball around with some teammates and then they were going to go out to dinner and play video games.

seems like a long road trip.
RE: I listened to an interview  
trueblueinpw : 8/3/2020 11:21 pm : link
In comment 14943500 pjcas18 said:
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with some Bruins players (Joakim Nordstrom and one other) and he said it's not bad, and actually pretty fun. Said he was walking out to the soccer stadium to kick the ball around with some teammates and then they were going to go out to dinner and play video games.

seems like a long road trip.


My wife just asked if they were lonely or something. I just laughed. I’m sure they miss going out and all that but they’re playing for the Cup. Hockey’s just different from other sports. Always has been, always will be.
RE: MAB, Have you seen the areas around the bubbles?  
MetsAreBack : 8/4/2020 12:05 am : link
In comment 14943498 pjcas18 said:
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it's actually a pretty cool set up. I'm not even sure a local flare up would get in, possible I guess - they're all humans, but I think the controls are solid. And being away from your family sucks for the players but Toronto looks cool.




Thanks - I should read up. Is it like the nba when if they leave the ‘bubble’ for any reason they have to quarantine for days and security inside the bubble is off the charts? It certainly helps toronto and edlmonton at this point don’t have general population virus out there like so many American cities but seems like there’s a little more freedom for players to be well ... 25 year old kids... then what the nba has set up.

I could be wrong, like I said I haven’t researched. They’ve certainly been smarter than mlb which has scheduled road trips with multiple days off on those trips for teams. Cards had two days off in Minneapolis last week
And Florida had a lot of time off during preseason games in Atlanta and people are shocked guys got bored? It’s like no one consulted common sense.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/4/2020 12:08 am : link
I don't see how baseball or football pull it off.

Hockey/basketball, you can have guys buckle down for two months to finish the season.

Side note, Connor McDavid is pretty good. Reminds me of watching myself.
I'm a Ranger fan. Isn't that the thing to do?  
Route 9 : 8/4/2020 12:19 am : link
Cut them some slack, give it two years, they're young, new coach, new system... etc.

Then they always suck ass in the playoffs. Oh, wow. They went on one run and lost to the Kings.

I mean don't ya think they looked lost and slow and didn't look as if they belonged on the same ice as the Hurricanes? It's not as if that was the 2000s Devils defense out there. Skjei never played this hard as a Ranger.

Hey at least the young kids got some "playoff experience".

These other games and teams look fun to watch: Penguins, Blackhawks, Oilers, Golden Knights, Caps, Lighting.

Do the Rangers answer the bell and belong with the above? Nope.
RE: ....  
Route 9 : 8/4/2020 12:19 am : link
In comment 14943512 BrettNYG10 said:
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I don't see how baseball or football pull it off.

Hockey/basketball, you can have guys buckle down for two months to finish the season.

Side note, Connor McDavid is pretty good. Reminds me of watching myself.


Football will be an 8 or 9 game season. Me thinks.
RE: RE: MAB, Have you seen the areas around the bubbles?  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 8:00 am : link
In comment 14943511 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 14943498 pjcas18 said:


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it's actually a pretty cool set up. I'm not even sure a local flare up would get in, possible I guess - they're all humans, but I think the controls are solid. And being away from your family sucks for the players but Toronto looks cool.






Thanks - I should read up. Is it like the nba when if they leave the ‘bubble’ for any reason they have to quarantine for days and security inside the bubble is off the charts? It certainly helps toronto and edlmonton at this point don’t have general population virus out there like so many American cities but seems like there’s a little more freedom for players to be well ... 25 year old kids... then what the nba has set up.

I could be wrong, like I said I haven’t researched. They’ve certainly been smarter than mlb which has scheduled road trips with multiple days off on those trips for teams. Cards had two days off in Minneapolis last week
And Florida had a lot of time off during preseason games in Atlanta and people are shocked guys got bored? It’s like no one consulted common sense.


This link outlines it in a consumable manner.

Similar NBA rules I believe for leaving the bubble:

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Can a player leave the NHL bubble & hub cities?

Yes, but only in a limited number of cases, per NHL.com: medical reasons, extenuating circumstances (such as the birth of a child or an illness or death in the family), or a family event such as a wedding. When a player returns to the secure zone, he will be quarantined in his hotel room and then need to test negative at least four consecutive times over a four-day period.



link - ( New Window )
McDavid  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 8:27 am : link
shines, nets the hat trick, got pissed off there was somehow hats on the ice, and the Oilers evens the series at 1.

Big slate of games today:

FLA vs NYI at noon on NBCSN (NYI lead 1 - 0)
ARI vs NSH at 2:30 PM on NHLN (ARI leads 1 - 0)
CBJ vs TOR at 4:00 PM on NBCSN (CBJ leads 1 - 0)
CAL vs WIN at 6:45 PM on NHLN (series tied 1 - 1)
CAR vs NYR at 8:00 PM on NBCSN (CAR leads 2 - 0)*
MIN vs VAN at 10:45 PM on NHLN (MIN leads 1 - 0)

* Potential elimination game
I always am a little skeptical  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 10:03 am : link
with lists that say Carey Price is still "the best goalie in the NHL" but that's consistently what the players say - or they have him the discussion. Mainly I'm skeptical because statistically he hasn't been among the leaders in a while, but his defense is so bad.

but these past two games have given me some confidence that he *can* be that goalie.

As an Isles fan  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/4/2020 10:09 am : link
It's actually super encouraging to see Varlamov in the middle of that list instead of at the top. He stopped 27 of 28 shots, which one would think would catapult him into at least the top 5, but he's still sitting with a middle-of-the-pack ranking.

To me, that means the defense did a phenomenal job in game one of assuring the shots Florida managed were very low percentage opportunities, and for all their faults, Florida is a team that can score goals.

So that's pretty great to see.
well... the Rangers certainly needed better goaltending than that  
MetsAreBack : 8/4/2020 10:10 am : link
to have a chance.

But that chart also shows Mrazek has been able to take naps back in his own net too so....
RE: As an Isles fan  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 10:19 am : link
In comment 14943621 Mike in Long Beach said:
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It's actually super encouraging to see Varlamov in the middle of that list instead of at the top. He stopped 27 of 28 shots, which one would think would catapult him into at least the top 5, but he's still sitting with a middle-of-the-pack ranking.

To me, that means the defense did a phenomenal job in game one of assuring the shots Florida managed were very low percentage opportunities, and for all their faults, Florida is a team that can score goals.

So that's pretty great to see.


Exactly, a Trotz team hallmark, they don't take a lot of shots, and they try and limit high danger opposition chances (as opposed to shots). It's so smart, a bad shot at the NHL level is almost a turnover or in some cases it is in fact a turnover.

which is why xGa is more meaningful measure than save %.

I'm not a huge analytics guy, but I do strongly believe all shots are not equal and relying on pure shot data isn't very meaningful.



Great game right now  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 2:11 pm : link
in Toronto.

NYI leading FLA 3 - 2 with 17 min left in the third. Good pace, good skill, and mostly good goal tending.

No idea  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 2:25 pm : link
how Barzal is still alive after going head first at full speed into the boards.

Beauvilier scores on the PP to put the NYI up 2 with under 10 left.
Actually looked  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 2:28 pm : link
like it hit Eberle and then went it on the PP goal.
Healthy Isles  
KDubbs : 8/4/2020 2:30 pm : link
With Pageau added is a tough out. This matheson guy on florida is a dirtbag
No idea  
JayBinQueens : 8/4/2020 2:38 pm : link
how Barzal wasn't made to go back into the locker room to be checked out.

Bob has been keeping Fla in the series but they're hanging him out to dry.

Isles taking care of business in a series they should have
RE: Healthy Isles  
JayBinQueens : 8/4/2020 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14943812 KDubbs said:
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With Pageau added is a tough out. This matheson guy on florida is a dirtbag

Check out Matheson's contract LOL
Softy  
pjcas18 : 8/4/2020 2:59 pm : link
given up by Kuemper, NSH up 2 - 0, halfway through the 1st - - the first goal wasn't that stellar either. ARI leads the series 1 - 0
Matheson is a gift  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/4/2020 3:01 pm : link
When he's not getting beat, he's taking penalties.

Good win. Rebounded from an awful first. They finally adjusted and stopped trying to force the carry in.

Hot streak Eberle would be most welcome on a sniper starved team.

Super fortunate re Barzal. Game over if their one elite player goes down.
First gaem of the day, BUT  
Diversify yo bonds : 8/4/2020 3:03 pm : link
Ice near the boards was abysmal from the start. Absolute ping pong ball near the benches.

This much action daily it must be a moonscape out there.

Something to watch for all the teams. It's a factor
both  
feelflows : 8/4/2020 3:13 pm : link
Beau and Eberle are streaky..

if Beau was consistent in his production he would be an absolute monster. He is so impressive when he's "on".

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