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pjcas18 : 8/1/2020 9:31 pm
day 1 halfway done. Figured I''d start a thread for not just the Rangers games.

Rangers and Canes were rusty on specials (though CAR looked much better), 1 for 14 combined on the PP. Good intensity though, hard hitting game. I thought Hank was great.

I didn't see any of NYI vs FLA, but the score is about what I'd expect from a Trotz team.

PIT came out like a house on fire, Price stood tall and MTL's two youngsters, Kotkaniemi and Suzuki have the Habs with a 2 - 0 lead. momentum is starting to shift to MTL, but PIT can score quickly. MTL defense is a massive Achilles heel.

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Mete  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 9:21 pm : link
just flat out gets beat, and then let's the trailer get the rebound. 3 - 1 Pens.

I think Mete's days are numbered. When you're supposedly a puck mover speed guy and you get beat in a foot race, you aren't really a puck mover.
Drouin  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 9:30 pm : link
shows up with a nice tip and cuts the lead to 1.

Pens lead 3 - 2 halfway through the game
Byron  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 9:43 pm : link
with the wrap around (and rebound) ties it up at 3.

4 min left in the 2nd.

Pens D are as bad as the Habs
A lot of players  
JayBinQueens : 8/5/2020 9:45 pm : link
Getting banged up the last 8 mins or so. Good push back by MTL to tie it up
That  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:15 pm : link
looked like it went in
RE: That  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:16 pm : link
In comment 14944780 pjcas18 said:
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looked like it went in

nope, cross bar
RE: RE: That  
BrettNYG10 : 8/5/2020 10:18 pm : link
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looked like it went in


nope, cross bar


I thought it was in real time and was wondering why the ref didn’t blow the whistle lol
You can’t give that up if you’re Murray.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/5/2020 10:19 pm : link
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Petry  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:19 pm : link
with the bad angle goal, habs up 4 - 3.

like the pace of this game. it's a track meet. no D. lol.
RE: You can’t give that up if you’re Murray.  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:19 pm : link
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he is so inconsistent, he's Hasek one day then can't stop a beach ball the next.

but he has 2 rings.
RE: RE: You can’t give that up if you’re Murray.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/5/2020 10:21 pm : link
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he is so inconsistent, he's Hasek one day then can't stop a beach ball the next.

but he has 2 rings.


And Lundqvist and Price have zero. We don’t deserve this.
RE: RE: RE: You can’t give that up if you’re Murray.  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:22 pm : link
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he is so inconsistent, he's Hasek one day then can't stop a beach ball the next.

but he has 2 rings.



And Lundqvist and Price have zero. We don’t deserve this.


Well they didn't play behind Crosby and Malkin either.

but I agree.
RE: RE: RE: RE: You can’t give that up if you’re Murray.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/5/2020 10:25 pm : link
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he is so inconsistent, he's Hasek one day then can't stop a beach ball the next.

but he has 2 rings.



And Lundqvist and Price have zero. We don’t deserve this.



Well they didn't play behind Crosby and Malkin either.

but I agree.


True. This weird draft lottery had me thinking of 05. Rangers had the same number of ping pong balls as the Penguins, IIRC. Sucks.
Pens  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:48 pm : link
net empty, 1 min left. they're still down by 1.
As much as I want Pittsburgh to lose,  
Anakim : 8/5/2020 10:49 pm : link
Doesn't it feel like they'll end up with Lafreniere? That fucking horseshoe organization. It'll be like the Patriots winding up with Trevor Lawrence.
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:50 pm : link
hold on, they're up 2 - 1, Game 4 Friday.
So how does this August 10 lottery work?  
MetsAreBack : 8/5/2020 10:51 pm : link
Everyone has a 12.5% shot at the number 1 pick but are they going on win % or points per game after that? Which starts at 9. It would be absurd if the rangers picked 15th....
9 or 10 overall wouldn’t be shabby in this draft (with Montreal chicago and Arizona potentially not in this lottery)
RE: As much as I want Pittsburgh to lose,  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 10:51 pm : link
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Doesn't it feel like they'll end up with Lafreniere? That fucking horseshoe organization. It'll be like the Patriots winding up with Trevor Lawrence.


them or the Rangers. The Rangers got pretty fortunate to get Kakko up from 6 (?)
RE: RE: As much as I want Pittsburgh to lose,  
MetsAreBack : 8/5/2020 11:04 pm : link
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Doesn't it feel like they'll end up with Lafreniere? That fucking horseshoe organization. It'll be like the Patriots winding up with Trevor Lawrence.



them or the Rangers. The Rangers got pretty fortunate to get Kakko up from 6 (?)


Nice try. Rangers and Kakko haven’t done a thing yet with that. Loads of teams over the years have jumped a few spots up the draft - like Edmonton and NJ, for example.

Those Pittsburgh jumps landed them 3 cups
Crawford  
pjcas18 : 8/5/2020 11:49 pm : link
is trash too.

He's flopping around like a fish.

And he has 2 rings.

Draisaitl's 2nd of the game ties it at 2.

Blackhawks PP can be dreadful  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 12:14 am : link
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Knee took a hit there.  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 12:18 am : link
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....  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 12:23 am : link
Connor McDavid late period Goal. 7.8 seconds left. 3-2, Edmonton.
Wow. Two late Chicago goals.  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 1:15 am : link
Now lead with 12.5 to go.
Today's game schedule 📅 🏒  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 5:52 am : link
Thursday, August 6
MATCHUP
TIME
NAT TV

VAN
WEST QUALIFYING - GAME 3, Series tied 1-1
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MIN
2:30 PM
NHL

WSH
EAST QUALIFYING ROUND ROBIN
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PHI
4:00 PM
NBCSN

VGS
WEST QUALIFYING ROUND ROBIN
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STL
6:30 PM
NHL

TOR
EAST QUALIFYING - GAME 3, Series tied 1-1
@

CBJ
8:00 PM
NBCSN

CGY
WEST QUALIFYING - GAME 4, CGY Lead series 2-1
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WPG
10:30 PM
NBCSN
Toews  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 8:05 am : link
is having a great series. McDavid and Draisaitl too, but CHI on the verge of the biggest upset so far (MTL too).
RE: RE: As much as I want Pittsburgh to lose,  
Anakim : 8/6/2020 8:15 am : link
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Doesn't it feel like they'll end up with Lafreniere? That fucking horseshoe organization. It'll be like the Patriots winding up with Trevor Lawrence.



them or the Rangers. The Rangers got pretty fortunate to get Kakko up from 6 (?)


Once. Once! We were only lucky in the Lottery once.
With the Crosby  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 8:33 am : link
lottery, the Penguins were one of 4 favored teams based on the weighting.

I understand Rangers fans bitterness b/c the Pens are a rival and the Rangers were one of the other 3 teams, and Crosby's Penguins have won 3 cups, but they had the same chance at Crosby as three other teams. And the league would have been better off overall if Crosby wound up in NY.

Unless you think it was fixed there wasn't much ping pong ball luck and it doesn't make much sense for the league to fix it for PIT and pin the hopes of Crosby pulling the team out of a financial mess.
I don't think it was fixed.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/6/2020 9:28 am : link
It was just so disappointing to get #16 that year. They actually did well trading up for Staal when you look at the rest of the draft.

And Staal was only one pick behind Kopitar.
That's basically what the Rangers face  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 9:33 am : link
this year. #1 or somewhere between 9 and 15.

And from what I have observed and read not a ton of difference between 9 and 15. Maybe 9 and 13, but most people have players 4 - 15 or so interchangeable.

RE: With the Crosby  
Anakim : 8/6/2020 9:49 am : link
In comment 14944858 pjcas18 said:
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Unless you think it was fixed there wasn't much ping pong ball luck and it doesn't make much sense for the league to fix it for PIT and pin the hopes of Crosby pulling the team out of a financial mess.


I don't think it was fixed. It's pure luck. The Penguins are a lucky fucking organization. From Lemieux and Jagr to Crosby and Malkin.
RE: That's basically what the Rangers face  
MetsAreBack : 8/6/2020 10:17 am : link
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this year. #1 or somewhere between 9 and 15.

And from what I have observed and read not a ton of difference between 9 and 15. Maybe 9 and 13, but most people have players 4 - 15 or so interchangeable.


So I looked for this information and couldnt find... the Rangers might pick 15th? Common sense would dictate that the 8 teams would simply draw evenly for that #1 slot and then after that you pick by order of standings, much as they did for the worst 7 teams (e.g., Detroit wasnt at risk to pick 7th)... thats not the case??
RE: RE: That's basically what the Rangers face  
Anakim : 8/6/2020 10:25 am : link
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this year. #1 or somewhere between 9 and 15.

And from what I have observed and read not a ton of difference between 9 and 15. Maybe 9 and 13, but most people have players 4 - 15 or so interchangeable.




So I looked for this information and couldnt find... the Rangers might pick 15th? Common sense would dictate that the 8 teams would simply draw evenly for that #1 slot and then after that you pick by order of standings, much as they did for the worst 7 teams (e.g., Detroit wasnt at risk to pick 7th)... thats not the case??


I believe the Rangers draft pick ranges from 9-14 (assuming they don't win the #1 overall pick). We should be rooting for the Canadiens (over Yinz), Blackhawks (over Oilers), Wild (over Canucks), and Coyotes (over Predators)
RE: RE: RE: That's basically what the Rangers face  
Anakim : 8/6/2020 10:26 am : link
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this year. #1 or somewhere between 9 and 15.

And from what I have observed and read not a ton of difference between 9 and 15. Maybe 9 and 13, but most people have players 4 - 15 or so interchangeable.




So I looked for this information and couldnt find... the Rangers might pick 15th? Common sense would dictate that the 8 teams would simply draw evenly for that #1 slot and then after that you pick by order of standings, much as they did for the worst 7 teams (e.g., Detroit wasnt at risk to pick 7th)... thats not the case??



I believe the Rangers draft pick ranges from 9-14 (assuming they don't win the #1 overall pick). We should be rooting for the Canadiens (over Yinz), Blackhawks (over Oilers), Wild (over Canucks), and Coyotes (over Predators)


This guy has a good chart, MAB
Link - ( New Window )
Thanks  
MetsAreBack : 8/6/2020 10:31 am : link
ok, phew, some common sense has prevailed from the league for once (lately they seem to have vastly improved their analytical decision making by the way... though until the 3 point OT game vs 2 point regulation game is fixed, they're still general morons)

As a Rangers fan, would be great if MTL, ARZ and CHI can close out their series... we'd move up to #11 at worst. As a hockey fan, i think its just plain absurd that MTL and CHI were given a best of 5 chance to amend what had been pretty horrendous 70 game regular seasons for them....
I hope MTL  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 11:18 am : link
wins the cup just to piss off the haters.

the Pens got Guentzel back, that should have been consolation enough for them playing one of the worst teams in the league.

CHI has a better shot to get there though. The West is wide open, some good teams - right now my favorites would be COL and CAL, but CHI has a shot to come out of the west because no one has a complete team IMO.
Islanders  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 11:28 am : link
fans...pretty cool:

RE: I hope MTL  
BrettNYG10 : 8/6/2020 1:43 pm : link
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wins the cup just to piss off the haters.

the Pens got Guentzel back, that should have been consolation enough for them playing one of the worst teams in the league.

CHI has a better shot to get there though. The West is wide open, some good teams - right now my favorites would be COL and CAL, but CHI has a shot to come out of the west because no one has a complete team IMO.


The Pens are the better team outside of the goalie, but the Habs have impressed.

Gallagher is much better than I remember.
Gallagher  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 1:57 pm : link
is a hustler. Not a ton of skill, but more heart than 80% of the league.

Other than Price the Canadiens best players have been Suzuki, Kotkaniemi and Weber.

and it's good to see Kotkaniemi have a solid return after a disappointing year.
Penguins  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 2:04 pm : link
D is brutal.

Letang is a shell of his former self, Dumoulin is mediocre as always, Jack Johnson is cooked, Pettersson is bad, Schultz surprises me, he had a couple good years, I'm surprised if he's healthy he's this bad.

Their best D is John Marino.

Interesting proposal I saw on Twitter  
Anakim : 8/6/2020 2:08 pm : link
Tony Deangelo to Vegas for either Cody Glass or Peyton Krebs

Knights need a PP QB and a RHD badly. They have no one on that side. Deangelo is obviously one of the best offensive defensemen in the NHL.


Rangers need a 2C and would get a young prospect in Glass or Krebs. Rangers were really high on Glass in the 2017 Draft. Glass had a banged-up rookie season, though, so I'd prefer Krebs.
YES  
MetsAreBack : 8/6/2020 2:12 pm : link

I will take a "Glass" on this team any way we can get one...
RE: Penguins  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 2:46 pm : link
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D is brutal.

Letang is a shell of his former self, Dumoulin is mediocre as always, Jack Johnson is cooked, Pettersson is bad, Schultz surprises me, he had a couple good years, I'm surprised if he's healthy he's this bad.

Their best D is John Marino.


Murray was trash last night, too.
Ha. And who would the Rangers bring in to save us?  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 2:54 pm : link
Shut down Panarin and Zibanejad and you're good to go. Kreider and the rest do a fantastic job of shutting down themsleves.

This is far from a playoff team.
Rumor  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 3:44 pm : link
was when the Canadiens trade Pacioretty to LVG they (the Canadiens) wanted Cody Glass, but LVG said no but did include Nick Suzuki.

None of us knows the truth, but I always thought Suzuki was a better prospect than Glass, so I doubt that's true, but those are the rumors.

Granted, MTL also got a 2nd round pick and Tomas Tatar from LVG, not just Suzuki, but I don't know if TDA gets it done for Glass. I prefer Krebs though even though he's smaller. Such a strong skater.
VAN  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 3:46 pm : link
vs MIN scoreless with 5 min gone in the 2nd.
Minnesota Vancouver  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 3:56 pm : link
Getting scrappy. Tight, 0-0 game.

Some headhunting going on...
Lol  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 3:57 pm : link
"Fuck that guy!"
Vancouver the worst passing in the history of the NHL  
Route 9 : 8/6/2020 4:00 pm : link
...
Who  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2020 4:48 pm : link
hits a goalie like that and doesn't expect to be roughed up after.

They just got done showing Fiala almost die and I felt a little bit bad for him, but what a douche bag.

This game is great, these teams seem to hate each other.
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