Or am I alone? I love the NFL. I love the Giants. I love fall Sundays. But I'm finding it hard to get into this 2020 season because I fear a few things: 1) there's a possibility the season just goes off the rails if too many guys get sick, 2) the NFL pushes through, but guys continue to get sick & we end up seeing the backups to the backups...well, we might as well be watching glorified preseason games.
And yes, if there's a season, I'll obviously watch. No doubt about that. But my enthusiasm won't be as high as it would be in a regular year.
And it sucks because, prior to the COVID-19 break, I was really looking forward to this season to see DJ's hopeful improvement & if Judge is the guy to lead us back to the top of the NFC East.
In other news, 2020 totally blows.
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why not think positively?
Its really really hard to stay positive when you have experienced/witnessed the level stupidity we have since March.
Just take a look at this high school photo in Georgia. Tell me all these kids, their extended family and social network will be fine?
And lets have all these high priced, highly talented players sweat, spit, and bleed over each other...no problem we will test on a regular basis.
I just do no understand where peoples heads are these days. This is not a joke...millions have become sick, hundreds of thousands have died. Stupid is is a stupid does - ( New Window )
If it is done correctly, the people sweating, spittting and bleeding will be virus free when they do so.
The virus doesn't just infect anyone because they are in close contact - you actually have to have a person carrying it to spread it. That's the point of daily testing.
it won't be easy to keep people virus-free, but it isn't like they will be careless about playing without taking precautions.
And what it has to do with a photo of high school kids in Georgia, I dunno.
People in america just cannot be inconvenienced anymore. Its pathetic. My son and wife were bitching after a tropical storm knocked out power for a few hours. My god seriously? Same goes for a fucking football season. A year without football? My god give me a break. Does it really impact your life? These players are taking a huge risk. They may not die if they get COVID but are they risking their future potential for an immediate payday?
I don't know the answer, the experts don't know the answers. At the end of the day its a risk. Why take it?
Whats wrong with just saying lets wait a year...lets wait for science to catch up to this atrocity? You making/losing money over football not being played this year? Come on...read a book, find another hobby, etc.
People are taking all of this personally and are failing to see the global/economic/societal implications. Whether its to watch sports again, go to a bar, go to get a hair cut, get a fucking cheeseburger its just really sad and it has been politicized. It is not politics its science.
Read this linked obit. Its the sad truth...and for what? A hasty return to normalcy? Link - Texas Man's Needless Death - ( New Window )
How does being positive equate to being selfish??
what you are saying is not what i am saying, i am not going to be mad if football doesnt happen, that was my point, i am excitdd for football and hopeful and if it happens i cant wait...If it doesnt i am not going to sit in a corner and be mad, no i am going to go and keep on living my life..
We could all die tomorrow, it doesnt matter if there is a pandemic or not, i am going to enjoy every minute as much as i can, and like i said you take something away or say i cant do something, ok i find something else..
You tell me i have to wear a mask, i am going to do it and i am going to enjoy it...like i said i work outside all day with a mask ln sweating, i think hey this is a good workout, i dont sulk and get mad...
I just dont understand always thinking negatively...
People in america just cannot be inconvenienced anymore. Its pathetic. My son and wife were bitching after a tropical storm knocked out power for a few hours. My god seriously? Same goes for a fucking football season. A year without football? My god give me a break. Does it really impact your life? These players are taking a huge risk. They may not die if they get COVID but are they risking their future potential for an immediate payday?
I don't know the answer, the experts don't know the answers. At the end of the day its a risk. Why take it?
Whats wrong with just saying lets wait a year...lets wait for science to catch up to this atrocity? You making/losing money over football not being played this year? Come on...read a book, find another hobby, etc.
People are taking all of this personally and are failing to see the global/economic/societal implications. Whether its to watch sports again, go to a bar, go to get a hair cut, get a fucking cheeseburger its just really sad and it has been politicized. It is not politics its science.
Read this linked obit. Its the sad truth...and for what? A hasty return to normalcy? Link - Texas Man's Needless Death - ( New Window )
Good objective post. Question, what makes yoU think next year at this time it will be any different. A vaccine is only a partial answer, the virus is going nowhere.
I for one can write off this year with an eye to the future. But from what I seen this virus is political as well as science and that s not changing.
There are no guarantees we won’t be in this same place next year at this time because of that
No real practices, sloppy play, cancelled games, etc. Just not excited at all.
I have not watched any of the sports networks so for me it has no sports since March.
I just hope that it is it all about football and that all the protesting stuff stays out of it. We have had more than enough of that.
The games will be weird with no fans but if they can keep the numbers down during the season I expect they will slowly increase the percentage they allow to attend.
Things will not be this way in 2021 with a vaccine. At that point science will have done everything they can to protect us and if people won’t take it they can no longer pass blame. A vaccine clears companies of liabilities.
Even before the onset of Covid 19, I didn't expect stellar play from the Giants in 2021. However, I did want to see them make significant changes in their system, win some battles, and improve.
I would like to see the Giants struggle against Covid 19 and overcome it. That struggle, might even help to build them as team, or it could tear them apart.
Obviously, I will be disappointed if there is no season, but if there is, my expectations have not changed at all.
Things will not be this way in 2021 with a vaccine. At that point science will have done everything they can to protect us and if people won’t take it they can no longer pass blame. A vaccine clears companies of liabilities.
Good point. However, as with any new vaccine people will have legitimate reason to be cautious.
Also vaccines as a rule are 50% effective. If that holds true people will still be getting sick from this virus, as they do now with the flu. Are you suggesting going forward we will treat Covid the same as the flu.
I hope you are correct. I ve felt all along how one reacts to this virus is a personal choice. But as with all personal choices my rights end where yours begin. We cannot make personal choices that infringe on how others what to treat the virus.
(My first post should be I ve seen, not I seen, that was phone typo. Being grammar police for own post 😄
But I will be surprised if it happens and I don't expect it to be very good, if it does.
We also don’t really know much about what the vaccine can do and I wouldn’t compare success rates to the flu vaccine, this virus is much different so it might be more effective than people think.
This is sadly very true. Inconvenience has somehow become synonymous with having your freedom and liberties taken away. Too many people conflate being a selfish, lazy asshole with being a patriot because it makes them feel better.
Money can change a person perspective easily. Athletes still have families and loved ones too! Just because they are wll paid, doesn't mean they don't have the same risks as everyone else
2. I was furloughed from my job in late March with no sign of getting called back. My field Advertising is cooked.
3. My daughters sports and activities have pretty much come to a grinding halt. I was coaching.
4. No way the NFL gets through a whole season this year.
5. Gave up my season tickets for the year. It won't be the same without fans.
6. Wife and I purchased a beach cottage so that has kept me busy and sane because otherwise I'd be depressed.
I'm disappointed a great number of people obviously fail to grasp the reality of the situation we all live in, and are not doing their share to keep us all as safe as possible.
Working from home has led to an immense, intense amount of work on my plate. Routinely working 12+ hour days, and nights on projects in Asia that are sucking.
I hope football will be safe for the players and all involved, and provide an escape I sorely need.
Just taking it one day at a time..
And that's the best use of rapid tests?
I'm disappointed a great number of people obviously fail to grasp the reality of the situation we all live in, and are not doing their share to keep us all as safe as possible.
Working from home has led to an immense, intense amount of work on my plate. Routinely working 12+ hour days, and nights on projects in Asia that are sucking.
John, unless I m mistaken, the purpose of mitigation was to keep
Our health care system from being overwhelmed.
There was never any guarantee of it keeping us safe.
I hope football will be safe for the players and all involved, and provide an escape I sorely need.
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to be safe, test every day, teams are on the field already working out, sweating..
And that's the best use of rapid tests?
they are using their own labs, they are not takong away tests from anyone
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People in america just cannot be inconvenienced anymore.
This is sadly very true. Inconvenience has somehow become synonymous with having your freedom and liberties taken away. Too many people conflate being a selfish, lazy asshole with being a patriot because it makes them feel better.
Yea, let's blame the American people for this. It's totally our fault.
What a joke of a comment.
I'm disappointed a great number of people obviously fail to grasp the reality of the situation we all live in, and are not doing their share to keep us all as safe as possible.
Working from home has led to an immense, intense amount of work on my plate. Routinely working 12+ hour days, and nights on projects in Asia that are sucking.
I hope football will be safe for the players and all involved, and provide an escape I sorely need.
My sentiments exactly.
I'm more angry about the USA pulling out of the research project in China that was funded to battle disease and viruses, such as covid, before it reaches our shores. I advocate spending tax dollars on preserving human life. The lack of a national plan for testing, the availability of protection kits and other medical tech, the ensuing business battles and exorbitant prices paid in competition for said tech, etc, is unacceptable given our wealth and position as a nation. I think this is enough to describe why I'm angry. Federal and State levels need to get their priorities in order.
Yea, let's blame the American people for this. It's totally our fault.
What a joke of a comment.
You seem really confused. What did I blame on the American people? I expressed an opinion on attitudes and actions as I perceive them.
Not sure how to help you understand that or mitigate your hurt feelings.
I'm more angry about the USA pulling out of the research project in China that was funded to battle disease and viruses, such as covid, before it reaches our shores. I advocate spending tax dollars on preserving human life. The lack of a national plan for testing, the availability of protection kits and other medical tech, the ensuing business battles and exorbitant prices paid in competition for said tech, etc, is unacceptable given our wealth and position as a nation. I think this is enough to describe why I'm angry. Federal and State levels need to get their priorities in order.
Thanks for the clarification. You are obviously more informed than I on the subject.
You have a right to be angry.
I also could care less about the politics of this, I want a solution.
I think I'll go to the UK, Spain or Italy where the people have been inconvenienced by a lack of football. Those hardy souls!!
I think I'll be into the Giants just as much.
It's giving me the much needed distraction I was hoping for.
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to be safe, test every day, teams are on the field already working out, sweating..
And that's the best use of rapid tests?
they are using their own labs, they are not takong away tests from anyone
Huh? Do you think tests come from a bottomless pit or that the NFL labs are producing their own testing supplies? And do you really believe that the NFL has their own labs? They don't. They have secured priority use of existing labs (like Quest Diagnostics, for example, who I assume the Giants are using). These labs would otherwise be performing tests on other people instead of processing a test for every NFL player every day.
There are actual items included in the NFL's tests (and all sports tests, for that matter) that could otherwise be used for testing the population, and to speed up results by making rapid testing more accessible.
Burning through 3k rapid tests a day is absolutely a depletion of resources no matter what labs are doing the testing. Those same labs could be testing the general public, but they're not.
Look, I can't tell you how to believe with regard to whether the daily NFL tests are worth it or a waste of resources or whatever else. But if you genuinely believe that those daily NFL tests aren't encroaching in any way upon the overall testing capacity for the general population in each team's community, you're kidding yourself.
That is the problem with discussing this topic. People's opinions are based on facts they like to believe are true to make their opinion palatable.
That is the problem with discussing this topic. People's opinions are based on facts they like to believe are true to make their opinion palatable.
I never said they wouldnt be doing trsts outside of NFL players, but they are paying to get theirs fast tracked...
Also teams have rapid tests like the MLB but MLB does not use those tests as official...
This notion they are taking tests away from people is false, if you want to get tested you can get tested, in NJ the governor is begging people to go get tested
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actually has it's own dedicated labs, that would not be doing any testing outside of NFL players?
That is the problem with discussing this topic. People's opinions are based on facts they like to believe are true to make their opinion palatable.
I never said they wouldnt be doing trsts outside of NFL players, but they are paying to get theirs fast tracked...
Also teams have rapid tests like the MLB but MLB does not use those tests as official...
This notion they are taking tests away from people is false, if you want to get tested you can get tested, in NJ the governor is begging people to go get tested
I can only speak for NJ, but while you can easily get a test, you won't be able to get the results for 6-10 days. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this has been the case for over a month now. If it takes that long to get a result, that almost renders the test pointless.
Everyone should be getting tested a bunch and having results quickly- under 24 hours. It would make life easier and safer for everyone. Want to get visit your parents for the weekend? Get a test to make sure your clean beforehand and other similar scenarios. Its unbelievable we don't have this available by now...
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actually has it's own dedicated labs, that would not be doing any testing outside of NFL players?
That is the problem with discussing this topic. People's opinions are based on facts they like to believe are true to make their opinion palatable.
I never said they wouldnt be doing trsts outside of NFL players, but they are paying to get theirs fast tracked...
Also teams have rapid tests like the MLB but MLB does not use those tests as official...
This notion they are taking tests away from people is false, if you want to get tested you can get tested, in NJ the governor is begging people to go get tested
I can only speak for NJ, but while you can easily get a test, you won't be able to get the results for 6-10 days. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this has been the case for over a month now. If it takes that long to get a result, that almost renders the test pointless.
Everyone should be getting tested a bunch and having results quickly- under 24 hours. It would make life easier and safer for everyone. Want to get visit your parents for the weekend? Get a test to make sure your clean beforehand and other similar scenarios. Its unbelievable we don't have this available by now...
If you go to an urgent med you can get your test result back in 30 minutes..
I'm more angry about the USA pulling out of the research project in China that was funded to battle disease and viruses, such as covid, before it reaches our shores. I advocate spending tax dollars on preserving human life. The lack of a national plan for testing, the availability of protection kits and other medical tech, the ensuing business battles and exorbitant prices paid in competition for said tech, etc, is unacceptable given our wealth and position as a nation. I think this is enough to describe why I'm angry. Federal and State levels need to get their priorities in order.
I am too, Jon.
The response to this virus in America has been abysmal and embarrassing.
I won't go further than that at the risk of turning anything political, but this has just been horrendously mismanaged here. A proper response and well-coordinated plan would have had us in significantly better shape right now and *way* further ahead of this than we are.
In fact, if, knowing what we know now, we crafted a plan to intentionally botch this as badly as possible and have the maximum number of people die, it wouldn't differ much from what was actually done. That's how bad this has been.
People are still going to need masks in public well into 2021 at this rate. There's still no uniform national plan. Governors and states were basically left to figure it out themselves, which has been an abject disaster in several.
The mixed messages, lack of uniformity, and constant changes have all turned this into a complete circus.