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Anyone else struggling to get into a possible season?

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/4/2020 7:37 pm
Or am I alone? I love the NFL. I love the Giants. I love fall Sundays. But I'm finding it hard to get into this 2020 season because I fear a few things: 1) there's a possibility the season just goes off the rails if too many guys get sick, 2) the NFL pushes through, but guys continue to get sick & we end up seeing the backups to the backups...well, we might as well be watching glorified preseason games.

And yes, if there's a season, I'll obviously watch. No doubt about that. But my enthusiasm won't be as high as it would be in a regular year.

And it sucks because, prior to the COVID-19 break, I was really looking forward to this season to see DJ's hopeful improvement & if Judge is the guy to lead us back to the top of the NFC East.

In other news, 2020 totally blows.
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RE: RE: for the people who automatically say no football this year  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/4/2020 10:04 pm : link
In comment 14944004 Mark from Jersey said:
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In comment 14943989 nygiants16 said:


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why not think positively?



Its really really hard to stay positive when you have experienced/witnessed the level stupidity we have since March.

Just take a look at this high school photo in Georgia. Tell me all these kids, their extended family and social network will be fine?

And lets have all these high priced, highly talented players sweat, spit, and bleed over each other...no problem we will test on a regular basis.

I just do no understand where peoples heads are these days. This is not a joke...millions have become sick, hundreds of thousands have died. Stupid is is a stupid does - ( New Window )


If it is done correctly, the people sweating, spittting and bleeding will be virus free when they do so.

The virus doesn't just infect anyone because they are in close contact - you actually have to have a person carrying it to spread it. That's the point of daily testing.

it won't be easy to keep people virus-free, but it isn't like they will be careless about playing without taking precautions.

And what it has to do with a photo of high school kids in Georgia, I dunno.
RE: NY16  
nygiants16 : 8/4/2020 10:14 pm : link
In comment 14944023 Mark from Jersey said:
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I hear you...but its just not smart. You can take all the precautions in the world and still wind up on the wrong end of the stick (see link).

People in america just cannot be inconvenienced anymore. Its pathetic. My son and wife were bitching after a tropical storm knocked out power for a few hours. My god seriously? Same goes for a fucking football season. A year without football? My god give me a break. Does it really impact your life? These players are taking a huge risk. They may not die if they get COVID but are they risking their future potential for an immediate payday?

I don't know the answer, the experts don't know the answers. At the end of the day its a risk. Why take it?

Whats wrong with just saying lets wait a year...lets wait for science to catch up to this atrocity? You making/losing money over football not being played this year? Come on...read a book, find another hobby, etc.

People are taking all of this personally and are failing to see the global/economic/societal implications. Whether its to watch sports again, go to a bar, go to get a hair cut, get a fucking cheeseburger its just really sad and it has been politicized. It is not politics its science.

Read this linked obit. Its the sad truth...and for what? A hasty return to normalcy? Link - Texas Man's Needless Death - ( New Window )


How does being positive equate to being selfish??

what you are saying is not what i am saying, i am not going to be mad if football doesnt happen, that was my point, i am excitdd for football and hopeful and if it happens i cant wait...If it doesnt i am not going to sit in a corner and be mad, no i am going to go and keep on living my life..

We could all die tomorrow, it doesnt matter if there is a pandemic or not, i am going to enjoy every minute as much as i can, and like i said you take something away or say i cant do something, ok i find something else..

You tell me i have to wear a mask, i am going to do it and i am going to enjoy it...like i said i work outside all day with a mask ln sweating, i think hey this is a good workout, i dont sulk and get mad...

I just dont understand always thinking negatively...
Also NFL is going to spend all the money they can  
nygiants16 : 8/4/2020 10:15 pm : link
to be safe, test every day, teams are on the field already working out, sweating..
as long as  
lightemup : 8/4/2020 11:47 pm : link
Barkley and Jones are playing, I'm watching.
Yes  
BigBlue89 : 8/4/2020 11:55 pm : link
I love football, but I find it hard to believe they'll be able to keep players safe without a bubble type system like we've seen with MLB.
RE: NY16  
joeinpa : 8/5/2020 7:24 am : link
In comment 14944023 Mark from Jersey said:
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I hear you...but its just not smart. You can take all the precautions in the world and still wind up on the wrong end of the stick (see link).

People in america just cannot be inconvenienced anymore. Its pathetic. My son and wife were bitching after a tropical storm knocked out power for a few hours. My god seriously? Same goes for a fucking football season. A year without football? My god give me a break. Does it really impact your life? These players are taking a huge risk. They may not die if they get COVID but are they risking their future potential for an immediate payday?

I don't know the answer, the experts don't know the answers. At the end of the day its a risk. Why take it?

Whats wrong with just saying lets wait a year...lets wait for science to catch up to this atrocity? You making/losing money over football not being played this year? Come on...read a book, find another hobby, etc.

People are taking all of this personally and are failing to see the global/economic/societal implications. Whether its to watch sports again, go to a bar, go to get a hair cut, get a fucking cheeseburger its just really sad and it has been politicized. It is not politics its science.

Read this linked obit. Its the sad truth...and for what? A hasty return to normalcy? Link - Texas Man's Needless Death - ( New Window )


Good objective post. Question, what makes yoU think next year at this time it will be any different. A vaccine is only a partial answer, the virus is going nowhere.

I for one can write off this year with an eye to the future. But from what I seen this virus is political as well as science and that s not changing.

There are no guarantees we won’t be in this same place next year at this time because of that
Yup  
ZogZerg : 8/5/2020 7:26 am : link
It sucks. Fans not being at games, if they are played, is going to suck for football. The 12th man will be missing. They play a huge role.

No real practices, sloppy play, cancelled games, etc. Just not excited at all.
Looking forward to it  
Lines of Scrimmage : 8/5/2020 7:36 am : link
also will be hopefully seeing college football as well.

I have not watched any of the sports networks so for me it has no sports since March.

I just hope that it is it all about football and that all the protesting stuff stays out of it. We have had more than enough of that.

The games will be weird with no fans but if they can keep the numbers down during the season I expect they will slowly increase the percentage they allow to attend.
joeinpa  
UConn4523 : 8/5/2020 7:38 am : link
a successful vaccine means that there’s now a legitimate way to combat it which is important because it will give everyone the choice to handle it. If you don’t take it, it’s on you. I suspect most/all companies will operate this way.

Things will not be this way in 2021 with a vaccine. At that point science will have done everything they can to protect us and if people won’t take it they can no longer pass blame. A vaccine clears companies of liabilities.
I am looking forward to the season  
Essex : 8/5/2020 7:43 am : link
but I have to say that my intensity, which is usually very high for hockey, was just kinda meh for these playoffs., I watched every game and the Rangers were largely awful, which might have had something to do with my intensity, but something did not feel right. Don't know if it was lack of fans, the four month layoff before a tournament began, but it did not feel the same. With all that said, I would rather sports than no sports as long as each player has the option of opting out.
I look at the Giants as a struggling team. Along with  
Marty in Albany : 8/5/2020 7:53 am : link
the rest of the League, they now have to struggle against Covid 19.

Even before the onset of Covid 19, I didn't expect stellar play from the Giants in 2021. However, I did want to see them make significant changes in their system, win some battles, and improve.

I would like to see the Giants struggle against Covid 19 and overcome it. That struggle, might even help to build them as team, or it could tear them apart.

Obviously, I will be disappointed if there is no season, but if there is, my expectations have not changed at all.
The next time you go to a store, check the labels of everything you  
Spider56 : 8/5/2020 7:54 am : link
buy ... and remember where this shit came from in the first place. Pangolins must go.
RE: joeinpa  
joeinpa : 8/5/2020 8:00 am : link
In comment 14944126 UConn4523 said:
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a successful vaccine means that there’s now a legitimate way to combat it which is important because it will give everyone the choice to handle it. If you don’t take it, it’s on you. I suspect most/all companies will operate this way.

Things will not be this way in 2021 with a vaccine. At that point science will have done everything they can to protect us and if people won’t take it they can no longer pass blame. A vaccine clears companies of liabilities.


Good point. However, as with any new vaccine people will have legitimate reason to be cautious.

Also vaccines as a rule are 50% effective. If that holds true people will still be getting sick from this virus, as they do now with the flu. Are you suggesting going forward we will treat Covid the same as the flu.

I hope you are correct. I ve felt all along how one reacts to this virus is a personal choice. But as with all personal choices my rights end where yours begin. We cannot make personal choices that infringe on how others what to treat the virus.

(My first post should be I ve seen, not I seen, that was phone typo. Being grammar police for own post 😄
Vaccine  
Lines of Scrimmage : 8/5/2020 8:03 am : link
I believe the FDA is going to require 50% success rate with the vaccine. Fauci said he is hoping for 60%. The vaccine is not going to make this go away. This is why I do not understand the people who want things shut down.



I am barely paying attention to anything football related  
LG in NYC : 8/5/2020 8:07 am : link
I am enjoying the NBA and MLB (for as long as it lasts) and if there happens to be any semblance of an NFL season I will consider it a bonus.

But I will be surprised if it happens and I don't expect it to be very good, if it does.
I don’t think the vaccine makes it vanish  
UConn4523 : 8/5/2020 8:17 am : link
I’m strictly talking liability. Business will go back to 100% after a vaccine IMO. The new norm will be to get the vaccine or you are on your own.

We also don’t really know much about what the vaccine can do and I wouldn’t compare success rates to the flu vaccine, this virus is much different so it might be more effective than people think.
Got it  
joeinpa : 8/5/2020 8:21 am : link
Excellent pt. Your post actually gives me some optimism, thanks 👍
Yes, not that interested in camp reports and the like  
ron mexico : 8/5/2020 8:25 am : link
I’m sure I’ll get pumped up for the opener though.
It doesnt feel right  
cjac : 8/5/2020 9:00 am : link
we arent going to see the product as it is intended. I'm a season ticket holder, and i dont have a problem with not going to games. But too many players are opting out and from what i'm seeing in the MLB lets just say i'm not excited about it.
RE: NY16  
Mike from Ohio : 8/5/2020 9:11 am : link
In comment 14944023 Mark from Jersey said:
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People in america just cannot be inconvenienced anymore.


This is sadly very true. Inconvenience has somehow become synonymous with having your freedom and liberties taken away. Too many people conflate being a selfish, lazy asshole with being a patriot because it makes them feel better.
I think fans have some notion  
GManinDC : 8/5/2020 9:19 am : link
that athletes are not "human" and should do whatever they can to please the fans.

Money can change a person perspective easily. Athletes still have families and loved ones too! Just because they are wll paid, doesn't mean they don't have the same risks as everyone else
Yeah don't really care much  
Harvest Blend : 8/5/2020 9:21 am : link
right now. Main concern is that no core players get devastating injuries for what will be a useless season anyway.

im not into it at all  
Giants86 : 8/5/2020 9:33 am : link
1. My mom passed in March and we couldn't have the proper service.
2. I was furloughed from my job in late March with no sign of getting called back. My field Advertising is cooked.
3. My daughters sports and activities have pretty much come to a grinding halt. I was coaching.

4. No way the NFL gets through a whole season this year.
5. Gave up my season tickets for the year. It won't be the same without fans.
6. Wife and I purchased a beach cottage so that has kept me busy and sane because otherwise I'd be depressed.
I hear you  
TyreeHelmet : 8/5/2020 9:44 am : link
It’s just such a weird time right now with the world and country in such a strange place. I’ll still watch the big games, I’m just not as into it as I was. I’m sure that will change once the weather turns bad. Being outside has been a good distraction.
My condolensces on your loss  
GManinDC : 8/5/2020 9:46 am : link
...
I'm disappointed with  
JonC : 8/5/2020 9:50 am : link
our leadership and their COVID response, starting at the top.

I'm disappointed a great number of people obviously fail to grasp the reality of the situation we all live in, and are not doing their share to keep us all as safe as possible.

Working from home has led to an immense, intense amount of work on my plate. Routinely working 12+ hour days, and nights on projects in Asia that are sucking.

I hope football will be safe for the players and all involved, and provide an escape I sorely need.
to be honest  
Jints in Carolina : 8/5/2020 9:52 am : link
I haven't really followed any real NFL news in awhile. I am having trouble gearing up for the season.
JonC  
c_dude : 8/5/2020 10:01 am : link
Couldn't have said it any better.
I haven't followed a thing in sports  
GManinDC : 8/5/2020 10:46 am : link
I had forgot the NBA and MLB restarted back. I haven't checked my ESPN app or anthying that much sports related.

Just taking it one day at a time..
RE: Also NFL is going to spend all the money they can  
Gatorade Dunk : 8/5/2020 11:20 am : link
In comment 14944032 nygiants16 said:
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to be safe, test every day, teams are on the field already working out, sweating..

And that's the best use of rapid tests?
RE: I'm disappointed with  
joeinpa : 8/5/2020 11:41 am : link
In comment 14944176 JonC said:
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our leadership and their COVID response, starting at the top.

I'm disappointed a great number of people obviously fail to grasp the reality of the situation we all live in, and are not doing their share to keep us all as safe as possible.

Working from home has led to an immense, intense amount of work on my plate. Routinely working 12+ hour days, and nights on projects in Asia that are sucking.

John, unless I m mistaken, the purpose of mitigation was to keep
Our health care system from being overwhelmed.

There was never any guarantee of it keeping us safe.

I hope football will be safe for the players and all involved, and provide an escape I sorely need.
RE: RE: Also NFL is going to spend all the money they can  
nygiants16 : 8/5/2020 11:56 am : link
In comment 14944237 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 14944032 nygiants16 said:


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to be safe, test every day, teams are on the field already working out, sweating..


And that's the best use of rapid tests?


they are using their own labs, they are not takong away tests from anyone
RE: RE: NY16  
Chris684 : 8/5/2020 11:56 am : link
In comment 14944154 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 14944023 Mark from Jersey said:


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People in america just cannot be inconvenienced anymore.



This is sadly very true. Inconvenience has somehow become synonymous with having your freedom and liberties taken away. Too many people conflate being a selfish, lazy asshole with being a patriot because it makes them feel better.


Yea, let's blame the American people for this. It's totally our fault.

What a joke of a comment.
RE: I'm disappointed with  
Ryan in Albany : 8/5/2020 12:05 pm : link
In comment 14944176 JonC said:
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our leadership and their COVID response, starting at the top.

I'm disappointed a great number of people obviously fail to grasp the reality of the situation we all live in, and are not doing their share to keep us all as safe as possible.

Working from home has led to an immense, intense amount of work on my plate. Routinely working 12+ hour days, and nights on projects in Asia that are sucking.

I hope football will be safe for the players and all involved, and provide an escape I sorely need.


My sentiments exactly.
joe  
JonC : 8/5/2020 12:05 pm : link
Will do my best to explain and also keep it non-political. Because this is not a partisan topic for me.

I'm more angry about the USA pulling out of the research project in China that was funded to battle disease and viruses, such as covid, before it reaches our shores. I advocate spending tax dollars on preserving human life. The lack of a national plan for testing, the availability of protection kits and other medical tech, the ensuing business battles and exorbitant prices paid in competition for said tech, etc, is unacceptable given our wealth and position as a nation. I think this is enough to describe why I'm angry. Federal and State levels need to get their priorities in order.
RE: RE: RE: NY16  
Mike from Ohio : 8/5/2020 12:16 pm : link
In comment 14944272 Chris684 said:
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Yea, let's blame the American people for this. It's totally our fault.

What a joke of a comment.


You seem really confused. What did I blame on the American people? I expressed an opinion on attitudes and actions as I perceive them.

Not sure how to help you understand that or mitigate your hurt feelings.
RE: joe  
joeinpa : 8/5/2020 1:27 pm : link
In comment 14944283 JonC said:
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Will do my best to explain and also keep it non-political. Because this is not a partisan topic for me.

I'm more angry about the USA pulling out of the research project in China that was funded to battle disease and viruses, such as covid, before it reaches our shores. I advocate spending tax dollars on preserving human life. The lack of a national plan for testing, the availability of protection kits and other medical tech, the ensuing business battles and exorbitant prices paid in competition for said tech, etc, is unacceptable given our wealth and position as a nation. I think this is enough to describe why I'm angry. Federal and State levels need to get their priorities in order.


Thanks for the clarification. You are obviously more informed than I on the subject.

You have a right to be angry.

I also could care less about the politics of this, I want a solution.
Completely..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/5/2020 1:47 pm : link
agree.

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People in america just cannot be inconvenienced anymore. Its pathetic


I think I'll go to the UK, Spain or Italy where the people have been inconvenienced by a lack of football. Those hardy souls!!
Totally Struggling  
Percy : 8/5/2020 1:51 pm : link
Interested, and now into MLB (follow O's, but fan of Yankees) and was for Rangers hockey (uncomfortably short, complete crash), but can't get a handle on loss of the preseason NFL games and limited padded practices with no ability to assess anybody as they are now and zero action news. Have to suspend disbelief that there actually will be some sort of actual season, one without fans in stadiums. Having trouble with all that. Virus factors are dominating everything.
I'm not really sure how I feel (or will feel).  
Mad Mike : 8/5/2020 1:56 pm : link
Obviously there's a lot going on for all of us, and while I'm fortunate to be healthy, safe, and employed, my life is obviously dramatically altered, and there are lots of things way more important than sports. And the league's seasons are all various degrees of abnormal. Yet, while I'm broadly not that interested in the mlb season, I've enjoyed watching yankee games, and have been getting pretty into it. And there are a lot of things about the Giants I was looking forward to seeing - DJ's development, Saquon behind a hopefully improved line, a new coach, etc.... If an announcement came tomorrow that they were scrapping the season, I think I'd be largely resigned to it and not care that much. But when the games are actually there on TV, I think I'll really enjoy watching (at least if the league is able to pull things off without a bunch of cancellations or lots of guys missing games for positive tests).
.  
Danny Kanell : 8/5/2020 3:01 pm : link
I didn't think I would be too into sports when they came back but I have to say, the Islanders and Yankees have me captivated. It's obviously so much different but I'm still into it. Especially the Islanders.

I think I'll be into the Giants just as much.

It's giving me the much needed distraction I was hoping for.
RE: RE: RE: Also NFL is going to spend all the money they can  
Gatorade Dunk : 8/5/2020 4:08 pm : link
In comment 14944271 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 14944237 Gatorade Dunk said:


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In comment 14944032 nygiants16 said:


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to be safe, test every day, teams are on the field already working out, sweating..


And that's the best use of rapid tests?



they are using their own labs, they are not takong away tests from anyone

Huh? Do you think tests come from a bottomless pit or that the NFL labs are producing their own testing supplies? And do you really believe that the NFL has their own labs? They don't. They have secured priority use of existing labs (like Quest Diagnostics, for example, who I assume the Giants are using). These labs would otherwise be performing tests on other people instead of processing a test for every NFL player every day.

There are actual items included in the NFL's tests (and all sports tests, for that matter) that could otherwise be used for testing the population, and to speed up results by making rapid testing more accessible.

Burning through 3k rapid tests a day is absolutely a depletion of resources no matter what labs are doing the testing. Those same labs could be testing the general public, but they're not.

Look, I can't tell you how to believe with regard to whether the daily NFL tests are worth it or a waste of resources or whatever else. But if you genuinely believe that those daily NFL tests aren't encroaching in any way upon the overall testing capacity for the general population in each team's community, you're kidding yourself.
I don't think it is going  
Rick5 : 8/5/2020 4:31 pm : link
to happen (or at least not for long), so in that sense my expectations are very low.
Did someone suggest that the NFL  
Mike from Ohio : 8/6/2020 10:49 am : link
actually has it's own dedicated labs, that would not be doing any testing outside of NFL players?

That is the problem with discussing this topic. People's opinions are based on facts they like to believe are true to make their opinion palatable.
RE: Did someone suggest that the NFL  
nygiants16 : 8/6/2020 10:57 am : link
In comment 14944918 Mike from Ohio said:
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actually has it's own dedicated labs, that would not be doing any testing outside of NFL players?

That is the problem with discussing this topic. People's opinions are based on facts they like to believe are true to make their opinion palatable.


I never said they wouldnt be doing trsts outside of NFL players, but they are paying to get theirs fast tracked...

Also teams have rapid tests like the MLB but MLB does not use those tests as official...

This notion they are taking tests away from people is false, if you want to get tested you can get tested, in NJ the governor is begging people to go get tested
Clearly i was wrong about using their own labs  
nygiants16 : 8/6/2020 11:06 am : link
Should of said paying to get fast tracked, my mistake
RE: RE: Did someone suggest that the NFL  
TyreeHelmet : 8/6/2020 1:01 pm : link
In comment 14944924 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 14944918 Mike from Ohio said:


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actually has it's own dedicated labs, that would not be doing any testing outside of NFL players?

That is the problem with discussing this topic. People's opinions are based on facts they like to believe are true to make their opinion palatable.



I never said they wouldnt be doing trsts outside of NFL players, but they are paying to get theirs fast tracked...

Also teams have rapid tests like the MLB but MLB does not use those tests as official...

This notion they are taking tests away from people is false, if you want to get tested you can get tested, in NJ the governor is begging people to go get tested


I can only speak for NJ, but while you can easily get a test, you won't be able to get the results for 6-10 days. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this has been the case for over a month now. If it takes that long to get a result, that almost renders the test pointless.

Everyone should be getting tested a bunch and having results quickly- under 24 hours. It would make life easier and safer for everyone. Want to get visit your parents for the weekend? Get a test to make sure your clean beforehand and other similar scenarios. Its unbelievable we don't have this available by now...

RE: RE: RE: Did someone suggest that the NFL  
nygiants16 : 8/6/2020 1:19 pm : link
In comment 14944998 TyreeHelmet said:
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In comment 14944924 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 14944918 Mike from Ohio said:


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actually has it's own dedicated labs, that would not be doing any testing outside of NFL players?

That is the problem with discussing this topic. People's opinions are based on facts they like to believe are true to make their opinion palatable.



I never said they wouldnt be doing trsts outside of NFL players, but they are paying to get theirs fast tracked...

Also teams have rapid tests like the MLB but MLB does not use those tests as official...

This notion they are taking tests away from people is false, if you want to get tested you can get tested, in NJ the governor is begging people to go get tested



I can only speak for NJ, but while you can easily get a test, you won't be able to get the results for 6-10 days. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this has been the case for over a month now. If it takes that long to get a result, that almost renders the test pointless.

Everyone should be getting tested a bunch and having results quickly- under 24 hours. It would make life easier and safer for everyone. Want to get visit your parents for the weekend? Get a test to make sure your clean beforehand and other similar scenarios. Its unbelievable we don't have this available by now...


If you go to an urgent med you can get your test result back in 30 minutes..
My friend has to get tested before going on job sites  
nygiants16 : 8/6/2020 1:20 pm : link
They have a company they want him to use and gets his test back in 24 hours..
RE: joe  
arcarsenal : 8/6/2020 10:38 pm : link
In comment 14944283 JonC said:
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Will do my best to explain and also keep it non-political. Because this is not a partisan topic for me.

I'm more angry about the USA pulling out of the research project in China that was funded to battle disease and viruses, such as covid, before it reaches our shores. I advocate spending tax dollars on preserving human life. The lack of a national plan for testing, the availability of protection kits and other medical tech, the ensuing business battles and exorbitant prices paid in competition for said tech, etc, is unacceptable given our wealth and position as a nation. I think this is enough to describe why I'm angry. Federal and State levels need to get their priorities in order.


I am too, Jon.

The response to this virus in America has been abysmal and embarrassing.

I won't go further than that at the risk of turning anything political, but this has just been horrendously mismanaged here. A proper response and well-coordinated plan would have had us in significantly better shape right now and *way* further ahead of this than we are.

In fact, if, knowing what we know now, we crafted a plan to intentionally botch this as badly as possible and have the maximum number of people die, it wouldn't differ much from what was actually done. That's how bad this has been.

People are still going to need masks in public well into 2021 at this rate. There's still no uniform national plan. Governors and states were basically left to figure it out themselves, which has been an abject disaster in several.

The mixed messages, lack of uniformity, and constant changes have all turned this into a complete circus.
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