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Anyone else struggling to get into a possible season?

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/4/2020 7:37 pm
Or am I alone? I love the NFL. I love the Giants. I love fall Sundays. But I'm finding it hard to get into this 2020 season because I fear a few things: 1) there's a possibility the season just goes off the rails if too many guys get sick, 2) the NFL pushes through, but guys continue to get sick & we end up seeing the backups to the backups...well, we might as well be watching glorified preseason games.

And yes, if there's a season, I'll obviously watch. No doubt about that. But my enthusiasm won't be as high as it would be in a regular year.

And it sucks because, prior to the COVID-19 break, I was really looking forward to this season to see DJ's hopeful improvement & if Judge is the guy to lead us back to the top of the NFC East.

In other news, 2020 totally blows.
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I haven't followed a thing in sports  
GManinDC : 8/5/2020 10:46 am : link
I had forgot the NBA and MLB restarted back. I haven't checked my ESPN app or anthying that much sports related.

Just taking it one day at a time..
RE: Also NFL is going to spend all the money they can  
Gatorade Dunk : 8/5/2020 11:20 am : link
In comment 14944032 nygiants16 said:
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to be safe, test every day, teams are on the field already working out, sweating..

And that's the best use of rapid tests?
RE: I'm disappointed with  
joeinpa : 8/5/2020 11:41 am : link
In comment 14944176 JonC said:
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our leadership and their COVID response, starting at the top.

I'm disappointed a great number of people obviously fail to grasp the reality of the situation we all live in, and are not doing their share to keep us all as safe as possible.

Working from home has led to an immense, intense amount of work on my plate. Routinely working 12+ hour days, and nights on projects in Asia that are sucking.

John, unless I m mistaken, the purpose of mitigation was to keep
Our health care system from being overwhelmed.

There was never any guarantee of it keeping us safe.

I hope football will be safe for the players and all involved, and provide an escape I sorely need.
RE: RE: Also NFL is going to spend all the money they can  
nygiants16 : 8/5/2020 11:56 am : link
In comment 14944237 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 14944032 nygiants16 said:


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to be safe, test every day, teams are on the field already working out, sweating..


And that's the best use of rapid tests?


they are using their own labs, they are not takong away tests from anyone
RE: RE: NY16  
Chris684 : 8/5/2020 11:56 am : link
In comment 14944154 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 14944023 Mark from Jersey said:


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People in america just cannot be inconvenienced anymore.



This is sadly very true. Inconvenience has somehow become synonymous with having your freedom and liberties taken away. Too many people conflate being a selfish, lazy asshole with being a patriot because it makes them feel better.


Yea, let's blame the American people for this. It's totally our fault.

What a joke of a comment.
RE: I'm disappointed with  
Ryan in Albany : 8/5/2020 12:05 pm : link
In comment 14944176 JonC said:
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our leadership and their COVID response, starting at the top.

I'm disappointed a great number of people obviously fail to grasp the reality of the situation we all live in, and are not doing their share to keep us all as safe as possible.

Working from home has led to an immense, intense amount of work on my plate. Routinely working 12+ hour days, and nights on projects in Asia that are sucking.

I hope football will be safe for the players and all involved, and provide an escape I sorely need.


My sentiments exactly.
joe  
JonC : 8/5/2020 12:05 pm : link
Will do my best to explain and also keep it non-political. Because this is not a partisan topic for me.

I'm more angry about the USA pulling out of the research project in China that was funded to battle disease and viruses, such as covid, before it reaches our shores. I advocate spending tax dollars on preserving human life. The lack of a national plan for testing, the availability of protection kits and other medical tech, the ensuing business battles and exorbitant prices paid in competition for said tech, etc, is unacceptable given our wealth and position as a nation. I think this is enough to describe why I'm angry. Federal and State levels need to get their priorities in order.
RE: RE: RE: NY16  
Mike from Ohio : 8/5/2020 12:16 pm : link
In comment 14944272 Chris684 said:
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Yea, let's blame the American people for this. It's totally our fault.

What a joke of a comment.


You seem really confused. What did I blame on the American people? I expressed an opinion on attitudes and actions as I perceive them.

Not sure how to help you understand that or mitigate your hurt feelings.
RE: joe  
joeinpa : 8/5/2020 1:27 pm : link
In comment 14944283 JonC said:
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Will do my best to explain and also keep it non-political. Because this is not a partisan topic for me.

I'm more angry about the USA pulling out of the research project in China that was funded to battle disease and viruses, such as covid, before it reaches our shores. I advocate spending tax dollars on preserving human life. The lack of a national plan for testing, the availability of protection kits and other medical tech, the ensuing business battles and exorbitant prices paid in competition for said tech, etc, is unacceptable given our wealth and position as a nation. I think this is enough to describe why I'm angry. Federal and State levels need to get their priorities in order.


Thanks for the clarification. You are obviously more informed than I on the subject.

You have a right to be angry.

I also could care less about the politics of this, I want a solution.
Completely..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/5/2020 1:47 pm : link
agree.

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People in america just cannot be inconvenienced anymore. Its pathetic


I think I'll go to the UK, Spain or Italy where the people have been inconvenienced by a lack of football. Those hardy souls!!
Totally Struggling  
Percy : 8/5/2020 1:51 pm : link
Interested, and now into MLB (follow O's, but fan of Yankees) and was for Rangers hockey (uncomfortably short, complete crash), but can't get a handle on loss of the preseason NFL games and limited padded practices with no ability to assess anybody as they are now and zero action news. Have to suspend disbelief that there actually will be some sort of actual season, one without fans in stadiums. Having trouble with all that. Virus factors are dominating everything.
I'm not really sure how I feel (or will feel).  
Mad Mike : 8/5/2020 1:56 pm : link
Obviously there's a lot going on for all of us, and while I'm fortunate to be healthy, safe, and employed, my life is obviously dramatically altered, and there are lots of things way more important than sports. And the league's seasons are all various degrees of abnormal. Yet, while I'm broadly not that interested in the mlb season, I've enjoyed watching yankee games, and have been getting pretty into it. And there are a lot of things about the Giants I was looking forward to seeing - DJ's development, Saquon behind a hopefully improved line, a new coach, etc.... If an announcement came tomorrow that they were scrapping the season, I think I'd be largely resigned to it and not care that much. But when the games are actually there on TV, I think I'll really enjoy watching (at least if the league is able to pull things off without a bunch of cancellations or lots of guys missing games for positive tests).
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Danny Kanell : 8/5/2020 3:01 pm : link
I didn't think I would be too into sports when they came back but I have to say, the Islanders and Yankees have me captivated. It's obviously so much different but I'm still into it. Especially the Islanders.

I think I'll be into the Giants just as much.

It's giving me the much needed distraction I was hoping for.
RE: RE: RE: Also NFL is going to spend all the money they can  
Gatorade Dunk : 8/5/2020 4:08 pm : link
In comment 14944271 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 14944237 Gatorade Dunk said:


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In comment 14944032 nygiants16 said:


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to be safe, test every day, teams are on the field already working out, sweating..


And that's the best use of rapid tests?



they are using their own labs, they are not takong away tests from anyone

Huh? Do you think tests come from a bottomless pit or that the NFL labs are producing their own testing supplies? And do you really believe that the NFL has their own labs? They don't. They have secured priority use of existing labs (like Quest Diagnostics, for example, who I assume the Giants are using). These labs would otherwise be performing tests on other people instead of processing a test for every NFL player every day.

There are actual items included in the NFL's tests (and all sports tests, for that matter) that could otherwise be used for testing the population, and to speed up results by making rapid testing more accessible.

Burning through 3k rapid tests a day is absolutely a depletion of resources no matter what labs are doing the testing. Those same labs could be testing the general public, but they're not.

Look, I can't tell you how to believe with regard to whether the daily NFL tests are worth it or a waste of resources or whatever else. But if you genuinely believe that those daily NFL tests aren't encroaching in any way upon the overall testing capacity for the general population in each team's community, you're kidding yourself.
I don't think it is going  
Rick5 : 8/5/2020 4:31 pm : link
to happen (or at least not for long), so in that sense my expectations are very low.
Did someone suggest that the NFL  
Mike from Ohio : 8/6/2020 10:49 am : link
actually has it's own dedicated labs, that would not be doing any testing outside of NFL players?

That is the problem with discussing this topic. People's opinions are based on facts they like to believe are true to make their opinion palatable.
RE: Did someone suggest that the NFL  
nygiants16 : 8/6/2020 10:57 am : link
In comment 14944918 Mike from Ohio said:
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actually has it's own dedicated labs, that would not be doing any testing outside of NFL players?

That is the problem with discussing this topic. People's opinions are based on facts they like to believe are true to make their opinion palatable.


I never said they wouldnt be doing trsts outside of NFL players, but they are paying to get theirs fast tracked...

Also teams have rapid tests like the MLB but MLB does not use those tests as official...

This notion they are taking tests away from people is false, if you want to get tested you can get tested, in NJ the governor is begging people to go get tested
Clearly i was wrong about using their own labs  
nygiants16 : 8/6/2020 11:06 am : link
Should of said paying to get fast tracked, my mistake
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TyreeHelmet : 8/6/2020 1:01 pm : link
In comment 14944924 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 14944918 Mike from Ohio said:


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actually has it's own dedicated labs, that would not be doing any testing outside of NFL players?

That is the problem with discussing this topic. People's opinions are based on facts they like to believe are true to make their opinion palatable.



I never said they wouldnt be doing trsts outside of NFL players, but they are paying to get theirs fast tracked...

Also teams have rapid tests like the MLB but MLB does not use those tests as official...

This notion they are taking tests away from people is false, if you want to get tested you can get tested, in NJ the governor is begging people to go get tested


I can only speak for NJ, but while you can easily get a test, you won't be able to get the results for 6-10 days. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this has been the case for over a month now. If it takes that long to get a result, that almost renders the test pointless.

Everyone should be getting tested a bunch and having results quickly- under 24 hours. It would make life easier and safer for everyone. Want to get visit your parents for the weekend? Get a test to make sure your clean beforehand and other similar scenarios. Its unbelievable we don't have this available by now...

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nygiants16 : 8/6/2020 1:19 pm : link
In comment 14944998 TyreeHelmet said:
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In comment 14944924 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 14944918 Mike from Ohio said:


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actually has it's own dedicated labs, that would not be doing any testing outside of NFL players?

That is the problem with discussing this topic. People's opinions are based on facts they like to believe are true to make their opinion palatable.



I never said they wouldnt be doing trsts outside of NFL players, but they are paying to get theirs fast tracked...

Also teams have rapid tests like the MLB but MLB does not use those tests as official...

This notion they are taking tests away from people is false, if you want to get tested you can get tested, in NJ the governor is begging people to go get tested



I can only speak for NJ, but while you can easily get a test, you won't be able to get the results for 6-10 days. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this has been the case for over a month now. If it takes that long to get a result, that almost renders the test pointless.

Everyone should be getting tested a bunch and having results quickly- under 24 hours. It would make life easier and safer for everyone. Want to get visit your parents for the weekend? Get a test to make sure your clean beforehand and other similar scenarios. Its unbelievable we don't have this available by now...


If you go to an urgent med you can get your test result back in 30 minutes..
My friend has to get tested before going on job sites  
nygiants16 : 8/6/2020 1:20 pm : link
They have a company they want him to use and gets his test back in 24 hours..
RE: joe  
arcarsenal : 8/6/2020 10:38 pm : link
In comment 14944283 JonC said:
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Will do my best to explain and also keep it non-political. Because this is not a partisan topic for me.

I'm more angry about the USA pulling out of the research project in China that was funded to battle disease and viruses, such as covid, before it reaches our shores. I advocate spending tax dollars on preserving human life. The lack of a national plan for testing, the availability of protection kits and other medical tech, the ensuing business battles and exorbitant prices paid in competition for said tech, etc, is unacceptable given our wealth and position as a nation. I think this is enough to describe why I'm angry. Federal and State levels need to get their priorities in order.


I am too, Jon.

The response to this virus in America has been abysmal and embarrassing.

I won't go further than that at the risk of turning anything political, but this has just been horrendously mismanaged here. A proper response and well-coordinated plan would have had us in significantly better shape right now and *way* further ahead of this than we are.

In fact, if, knowing what we know now, we crafted a plan to intentionally botch this as badly as possible and have the maximum number of people die, it wouldn't differ much from what was actually done. That's how bad this has been.

People are still going to need masks in public well into 2021 at this rate. There's still no uniform national plan. Governors and states were basically left to figure it out themselves, which has been an abject disaster in several.

The mixed messages, lack of uniformity, and constant changes have all turned this into a complete circus.
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