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NFT: Phillies at Yankees DH 4:05 PM 8/5

Jints in Carolina : 8/5/2020 1:58 pm
Game 1 Wheeler vs. Happ

7 inning doubleheader....welcome to 2020

NYY
DJ LeMahieu (R) 2B
Aaron Judge (R) DH
Aaron Hicks (S) CF
Gleyber Torres (R) SS
Mike Ford (L) 1B
Miguel Andujar (R) 3B
Mike Tauchman (L) RF
Kyle Higashioka (R) C
Brett Gardner (L) LF

PHI
Andrew McCutchen (R) LF
Rhys Hoskins (R) 1B
Bryce Harper (L) RF
J.T. Realmuto (R) C
Jean Segura (R) SS
Scott Kingery (R) 2B
Phil Gosselin (R) 3B
Roman Quinn (S) CF
Kyle Garlick (R) DH
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arcarsenal : 8/5/2020 9:47 pm : link
TAUCH TO ME.

This man is legit. He could start on a lot of teams. He's not depth.
Tauchman baby!  
adamg : 8/5/2020 9:48 pm : link
Clutch
Man Tauchman smoked that one  
Greg from LI : 8/5/2020 9:49 pm : link
Between him, Voit, and Urshela, I can't think of another team ever to find so many diamonds in the rough like this within a couple of years.
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arcarsenal : 8/5/2020 9:50 pm : link
Why do SO many Yankee batters get HBP?

It feels like every single game one of our hitters gets pegged.

Very aggravating.
think that hit  
black aces : 8/5/2020 9:50 pm : link
just above the elbow which is a good thing
All three guys plucked out of the minors as overaged players  
Greg from LI : 8/5/2020 9:50 pm : link
All three have done nothing but perform for them. Incredible.
RE: Man Tauchman smoked that one  
adamg : 8/5/2020 9:51 pm : link
In comment 14944745 Greg from LI said:
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Between him, Voit, and Urshela, I can't think of another team ever to find so many diamonds in the rough like this within a couple of years.


In Cash we trust
How hard was that?  
section125 : 8/5/2020 9:51 pm : link
Seam mark eand threads plainly visible.

Dammit, pull him and ice it before it swells....
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arcarsenal : 8/5/2020 9:53 pm : link
Gio Dude :)

Tommy Hunter was unable to record a single out. Phillies going back to the pen.

Let's bust this open.
Gio!  
adamg : 8/5/2020 9:53 pm : link
Rally caps on
RE: Tauchman baby!  
Eman11 : 8/5/2020 9:54 pm : link
In comment 14944744 adamg said:
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Clutch


No doubt. Gotta love a guy that plays his way into more playing time when given a chance, and he looks like he doesn't want to give it back.

Fantastic pickup for the Yanks, no question about it.
Beautiful.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/5/2020 9:54 pm : link
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And now Urshela comes through with a big hit too  
Greg from LI : 8/5/2020 9:55 pm : link
Goddamn, all this team needs is decent starting pitching. Not great, just decent, and that's what's so very aggravating about Happ. This team scores runs in bushels - just don't give up a 5+ a start and these guys will win at a .750 clip.
Gardner's OPS is 900  
adamg : 8/5/2020 9:57 pm : link
And hes batting under 200
Worst ump crew ive seen in a while  
adamg : 8/5/2020 9:59 pm : link
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Jesus H Christ  
Greg from LI : 8/5/2020 9:59 pm : link
Enrico Pallazzo called a better game than this. Where the hell was that pitch?
RE: Jesus H Christ  
black aces : 8/5/2020 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14944761 Greg from LI said:
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Enrico Pallazzo called a better game than this. Where the hell was that pitch?


This is the worst job by a HP umpire I have seen in a while
Dammit  
Greg from LI : 8/5/2020 10:01 pm : link
That sucks
RE: Dammit  
adamg : 8/5/2020 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14944763 Greg from LI said:
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That sucks


DJ got fucked over
RE: And now Urshela comes through with a big hit too  
arcarsenal : 8/5/2020 10:02 pm : link
In comment 14944756 Greg from LI said:
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Goddamn, all this team needs is decent starting pitching. Not great, just decent, and that's what's so very aggravating about Happ. This team scores runs in bushels - just don't give up a 5+ a start and these guys will win at a .750 clip.


I think we're going to need to recall Schmidt sooner than later to stabilize the rotation. He looks closer to ready than Garcia does and I think he's a significantly better prospect than Mike King with a much higher ceiling.

I do think Monty is the real deal, so that's another rotation spot and I am comfortable with Tanaka taking the ball every 5th day.

Whatever is going on with Paxton, it has to be figured out ASAP. We can't have him put us behind the ball in the first inning every time he pitches. Obviously there's a mechanical issue there or he's not fully recovered. Whatever it is, they have to figure it out and address it quickly. We obviously don't have a lot of time here.
RE: Gardner's OPS is 900  
Percy : 8/5/2020 10:02 pm : link
In comment 14944757 adamg said:
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And hes batting under 200

Can't hit anymore. But Andujar 0 for 6 wasn't an improvement.
Hell, Gardner did too  
Greg from LI : 8/5/2020 10:03 pm : link
Morgan got a very generous call for strike 2. Would have been 3-1, and with the bases juiced the at-bat would have gone differently.
RE: RE: Jesus H Christ  
Eman11 : 8/5/2020 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14944762 black aces said:
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In comment 14944761 Greg from LI said:


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Enrico Pallazzo called a better game than this. Where the hell was that pitch?



This is the worst job by a HP umpire I have seen in a while


Missed the first game?

It's hard to say which one was worse but they're both up there for worst this year.
Game!  
adamg : 8/5/2020 10:07 pm : link
Nice win.

Fuck Happ and the umps
RE: RE: RE: Jesus H Christ  
section125 : 8/5/2020 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14944769 Eman11 said:
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In comment 14944762 black aces said:


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In comment 14944761 Greg from LI said:


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Enrico Pallazzo called a better game than this. Where the hell was that pitch?



This is the worst job by a HP umpire I have seen in a while



Missed the first game?

It's hard to say which one was worse but they're both up there for worst this year.


Yes, both jobs were awful, but last night was excruciatingly poor.
Nice  
Greg from LI : 8/5/2020 10:08 pm : link
Britton didn't even break a sweat
RE: RE: Gardner's OPS is 900  
arcarsenal : 8/5/2020 10:09 pm : link
In comment 14944766 Percy said:
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And hes batting under 200


Can't hit anymore. But Andujar 0 for 6 wasn't an improvement.


I feel bad for Miggy - he's going to need regular AB's to get back to where he was in 2018; but the way this team is structured, there's just not a place to get them for him.

Gio clearly deserves to play 3B every day. We have a pretty beastly platoon @ 1B, so really the only place for Miggy to play is LF, where he's competing with Gardner and Tauchman for PT. I'd say Andujar would be likely to get most games against lefties, but he's a reverse split guy and actually fares better against righties - which is the only hand you can put Gardner out there against.

Tauchman is a reverse guy too, though - he smashes lefties.

So, I guess the best you can really do with Andujar is get him in LF against RHP a couple times a week.

There just aren't enough AB's to go around.

Not a bad problem to have, but it's gotta be tough to go from a year where you really should have won RoY, to getting hurt and coming back to find you really have no actual spot to play anymore.

That's baseball, Suzyn.
Britton with another  
section125 : 8/5/2020 10:10 pm : link
easy outing. Might need to make Chapman the set up guy!
It sucks for both Andujar and Frazier  
Greg from LI : 8/5/2020 10:11 pm : link
They both have shown they can hit at this level, but there's just nowhere to play them
RE: Game!  
Del Shofner : 8/5/2020 10:11 pm : link
In comment 14944770 adamg said:
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Nice win.

Fuck Happ and the umps


about sums up the day...
Fantastic win.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/5/2020 10:12 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 8/5/2020 10:15 pm : link
We are the approximate equivalent of 23-5 to start the year if you were to extrapolate a 9-2 start into the equivalent of a 162 game season.

I like it.
RE: Game!  
Eman11 : 8/5/2020 10:16 pm : link
In comment 14944770 adamg said:
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Nice win.

Fuck Happ and the umps


Yup, seems like an even bigger win when you get the W after facing a top pitcher dealing like Nola was.

Right there with you on Happ. It would be one thing if he was giving them innings while giving up all those runs but he's screwing the pooch all around. He's been about as bad as a guy could be so far.

I think they'll give him 1-2 more starts at best to get better. If not, it's one of the young guns because they certainly can't give Happ as much leash as they might've in a 162 game year.

I a huge Gardy fan  
section125 : 8/5/2020 10:18 pm : link
and I'm starting to think Tauchman should be the starter in LF and Gardy goes in as sub when Judge and Hicks have a game off(Tauchman to RF, Gardy to LF/CF)

Andujar needs more ABs to get going.

Happ will not earn his 3rd year. They will put him in BP eventually and King, Nelson or Schmidt will take over(outside chance on Loaisiga).
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arcarsenal : 8/5/2020 10:20 pm : link
Anyone else find that they kind of like the 7 inning DH games?

I was super against it at first. I hated the idea. But, after seeing it in practice, it actually doesn't bother me and I think I actually like it.

Still not sure I'd do this in a regular year - but for the purpose of 2020, I actually think it was smart to do.
I agree  
Greg from LI : 8/5/2020 10:21 pm : link
Gardner is best used as the 4th OF at this point. Tauchman is simply too good to sit.
The main reason I dislike the 7 inning games, other than tradition....  
Greg from LI : 8/5/2020 10:22 pm : link
...is that it negates one of the Yankees' big competitive advantages, bullpen depth.
RE: The main reason I dislike the 7 inning games, other than tradition....  
Eman11 : 8/5/2020 10:30 pm : link
In comment 14944793 Greg from LI said:
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...is that it negates one of the Yankees' big competitive advantages, bullpen depth.


Yeah that's how I feel too. Plus their bats just keep coming at teams and one more time through that lineup is really tough for most teams to deal with.

The Yanks pen has been locking down games while thier O has already won a few games late. 7 innings definitely takes away a huge strength of this team.

we're 9-2 and +15,  
Del Shofner : 8/5/2020 10:34 pm : link
Twins are 10-2 and +30.

Were the Twins supposed to be real good this year? With the pandemic, can't say I was focusing on anyone's predictions.
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arcarsenal : 8/5/2020 10:34 pm : link
It does. I guess for the Yankees specifically, it's not advantageous–a team like the Phillies actually benefit more since they gave decent SP but an awful BP.

But, from more of a general fan standpoint, it's a lot easier to sit through a pair of 7-inning games than it is to spend 6-7 hours in front of the tube. The traditional DH's can turn into all-day affairs.

And it does help keep some pitchers fresh.

I thought I'd hate it.
RE: we're 9-2 and +15,  
arcarsenal : 8/5/2020 10:36 pm : link
In comment 14944800 Del Shofner said:
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Twins are 10-2 and +30.

Were the Twins supposed to be real good this year? With the pandemic, can't say I was focusing on anyone's predictions.


MIN has a really, really nasty lineup and their bullpen is legit now. Rich Hill never stays healthy, so their rotation is probably going to have some small question marks. Dobnak has actually pitched well thus far. I just don't see Berrios as an "ace" - I see him as a really good #2 or a *great* 3 on a WS team.

Minnesota is legit, though. I know the Yanks have owned them for a while now, but we're probably going to need to get past them again this year to get to the WS.

I am more worried about MIN than HOU this year.
RE: I agree  
Stu11 : 8/5/2020 10:42 pm : link
In comment 14944791 Greg from LI said:
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Gardner is best used as the 4th OF at this point. Tauchman is simply too good to sit.

Agreed. There are a lot of things Gardy can do to help the team at this point but they can be done as a 4th OF. Tauch really is just a better all around player at this point.
RE: The main reason I dislike the 7 inning games, other than tradition....  
section125 : 8/5/2020 11:27 pm : link
In comment 14944793 Greg from LI said:
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...is that it negates one of the Yankees' big competitive advantages, bullpen depth.


That and the take ABs away from them. The Yanks often win late. I thought this would be a disadvantage for the Yanks because of their BP strength and bats beating up other teams' pens.
Please no more Happ  
Rick in Dallas : 8/6/2020 9:20 am : link
He is just plain awful. I turn the game off after watching him pitch an inning. I would rather see Green or King give them 4 or 5 innings. How far off is Garcia?
Schmidt will get the call before Garcia  
Greg from LI : 8/6/2020 9:23 am : link
He's two years older and much more polished. Garcia has great stuff but hasn't looked ready for prime time yet.
Love to see  
dune69 : 8/6/2020 9:49 am : link
Schmidt get his chance. Even if Happ pitches ok in his next outing, I could never trust him in a meaningful game. Perhaps Happ has a future in long relief (with another team ;)
Andujar optioned to alternate training site  
BigBlueShock : 8/6/2020 10:13 am : link
Along with Estrada and Nelson.
RE: Andujar optioned to alternate training site  
Eman11 : 8/6/2020 10:41 am : link
In comment 14944900 BigBlueShock said:
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Along with Estrada and Nelson.


Makes sense since they had to get down to 28 players today. Considering the quality of the roster, I can see how these guys were the odd men out.

It would've been interesting to see what they would've done if Miggy had a big day yesterday. They obviously gave him a chance to make his case to stay but he's definitely struggling at the plate and he needs work to get that going.
can't see Miggy with that long swing excelling in limited ab's  
Stu11 : 8/6/2020 10:55 am : link
frankly there is just no use for him on this roster right now. He can't get ab's or time in the field over Tauchman right now, he just can't. Also he's not needed at 3rd with DJ and Wade on the roster. Honestly with the orginizational pitching depth I think the biggest priority right now is to lock up DJ not Tanaka or Pax. That guy is so godamn valuable with his bat and glove and ability to play most of the inf and play every position well.
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arcarsenal : 8/6/2020 11:00 am : link
It's the right move for Miggy to be optioned. The AB's just aren't here for him right now. I feel really bad for him, but it's just a numbers game and right now, they don't favor him.

With Gardner almost certainly being in his final year here, I would be careful about trading Andujar and Frazier - we will need at least one of them. Especially when you factor in the injury concerns with Judge, Hicks and even Stanton. So far, so good on all 3.

But, I would definitely dangle one of the two for pitching.

I think Mike Tauchman is a *legit* everyday MLB player. He should be part of this team for a while. He's still 29.
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