you pass up a golden opportunity. He is the next out the door
I'm torn on that. Like I can't blame him for opting out, I don't know his reasons.
But how do you pass up this kind of opportunity. All he had to do is beat out Corey Ballentine and he was going to start at CB and potentially make himself millions upon millions if he played well. I don't know how you pass that up, and as an organization it would really rub me the wrong way, which I know isn't fair because he has every right to opt out, but man I don't know how he chose to opt out
fuck baker. i've said this numerous times. he showed me everything i needed to see last year when he lacked effort on the field and fell asleep in meetings. this guy is a loser and a cancer and they can't be rid of him soon enough.
hopefully they can recoup a lot of his bonus money for cap purposes.
WTF was he thinking? Young kid who has shown absolutely no maturity. Just when you thought the CB position was becoming a solid piece of the Defense, it’s now lacking any quality depth. We don’t really know what we have in Ballentine and who is he now competing with, Love, Askew-Henry?
but this time one he traded multiple picks to move up for.
gettleman has overseen a rebuild of what might currently be the worst defense in the league (easily the worst in the division), perilously thin at every position except DT.
Example: Baker & Dunbar, both at game. Baker gets pissed starts robbing patrons - Dunbar says thing that may be supportive of Baker, but his actions fall short of the steps needed for the robbery.
could still obviously be acquitted, but this is definitely a bad development, especially given the seriousness of the charges. He won't play this season, but still might for the Giants if he's acquitted.
We don't know why Beal opted out. No fault to him for doing so. He may have a family member who is immunocompromised or has an underlying medical condition that would likely exacerbate COVID - 19. His contract also gets extended for another year.
unless there is off the field stuff indicating this type of behavior, hard to blame this on Gettleman.
he traded multiple picks to move up into the first round to draft a player with notable work ethic issues, who is well on his way to becoming a convicted felon.
he also burned a 3rd rounder to draft perpetually injured sam beal in the supplemental.
slice it any way you want, gettleman's overseen the construction of a defense that's bottom of the league and looks to be getting worse.
I was hopeful, but if there was no case or even if it was weak case - I think they'd have dropped it or offered a sweet plea deal. I'm thinking it's probably only a matter of time before he's cut
one can question whether his on the field performance warranted DG's draft day trades. But, knowing your first rounder is going to commit multiple armed robberies - unless there was evidence of this type of behavior - can't fault DG for that.
I don't share your pessimistic view of this defense. They're rebuilding and have made some smart moves, and a few that were questionable
unless there is off the field stuff indicating this type of behavior, hard to blame this on Gettleman.
he traded multiple picks to move up into the first round to draft a player with notable work ethic issues, who is well on his way to becoming a convicted felon.
he also burned a 3rd rounder to draft perpetually injured sam beal in the supplemental.
slice it any way you want, gettleman's overseen the construction of a defense that's bottom of the league and looks to be getting worse.
don't forget the burned 3rd and 5th rounders for LW
trading multiple picks for ogletree- whiff
trading multiple picks for leonard williams- whiff
trading multiple picks to draft baker- whiff
blowing a 3rd to draft beal in the supplemental- whiff
getting zero return for jenkins- whiff
not re-signing collins and getting peppers for cheap in the OBJ trade and playing the waiting game with golden are about the only moves i see that could be construed as 'smart.'
still can't see how it's anything other than a bottom three defense in the NFL from a talent standpoint.
I hear you guys, but if you recall, the police reports after the incident said the get-away car(s) were stationed in advance and that Dunbar was an accomplice.
So either he flipped, as some are saying, or something does't add up.
I'm not trying to sound like an apologist here, but the whole case doesn't add up to me. Why would a 1st-round draft pick rob people of $750,000 of jewelry at a dice game? This sounds more like a set-up/shakedown to me.
Baker because he's so similar to Bradberry. Btw, this whole case seems nutty and not sure he won't beat it.
Not so nutty to me. Baker robbed several people at gunpoint, paid them off to change their story until the DA threatened to charge them for changing their story and they folded. And it looks like Dunbar may have flipped as well to avoid prosecution. Pretty simple actually.
one can question whether his on the field performance warranted DG's draft day trades. But, knowing your first rounder is going to commit multiple armed robberies - unless there was evidence of this type of behavior - can't fault DG for that.
I don't share your pessimistic view of this defense. They're rebuilding and have made some smart moves, and a few that were questionable
Baker because he's so similar to Bradberry. Btw, this whole case seems nutty and not sure he won't beat it.
Not so nutty to me. Baker robbed several people at gunpoint, paid them off to change their story until the DA threatened to charge them for changing their story and they folded. And it looks like Dunbar may have flipped as well to avoid prosecution. Pretty simple actually.
Just to clarify, this is my speculation, who knows what actually happened.
I hear you guys, but if you recall, the police reports after the incident said the get-away car(s) were stationed in advance and that Dunbar was an accomplice.
So either he flipped, as some are saying, or something does't add up.
I'm not trying to sound like an apologist here, but the whole case doesn't add up to me. Why would a 1st-round draft pick rob people of $750,000 of jewelry at a dice game? This sounds more like a set-up/shakedown to me.
Rich people that came from rough backgrounds get caught doing shit like this all the time.
I hear you guys, but if you recall, the police reports after the incident said the get-away car(s) were stationed in advance and that Dunbar was an accomplice.
So either he flipped, as some are saying, or something does't add up.
I'm not trying to sound like an apologist here, but the whole case doesn't add up to me. Why would a 1st-round draft pick rob people of $750,000 of jewelry at a dice game? This sounds more like a set-up/shakedown to me.
Rich people that came from rough backgrounds get caught doing shit like this all the time.
til the charges are resolved? We're not paying him in the meantime. The case against him clearly has some problems and there's still a chance he could beat it, or plead to misdemeanors. If so, he gets one more chance next year to show this coaching staff he means business and, if not, cut him then. Ya, the situation sucks but i don't see what we gain by cutting him now.
And what a waste.
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Big red flag - Baker does not call him as a witness.
I'm torn on that. Like I can't blame him for opting out, I don't know his reasons.
But how do you pass up this kind of opportunity. All he had to do is beat out Corey Ballentine and he was going to start at CB and potentially make himself millions upon millions if he played well. I don't know how you pass that up, and as an organization it would really rub me the wrong way, which I know isn't fair because he has every right to opt out, but man I don't know how he chose to opt out
hopefully they can recoup a lot of his bonus money for cap purposes.
maybe baker was the instigator and they flipped dunbar to testify in exchange for immunity?
gettleman has overseen a rebuild of what might currently be the worst defense in the league (easily the worst in the division), perilously thin at every position except DT.
Example: Baker & Dunbar, both at game. Baker gets pissed starts robbing patrons - Dunbar says thing that may be supportive of Baker, but his actions fall short of the steps needed for the robbery.
Traded back up into the first round for this guy.
We don't know why Beal opted out. No fault to him for doing so. He may have a family member who is immunocompromised or has an underlying medical condition that would likely exacerbate COVID - 19. His contract also gets extended for another year.
he traded multiple picks to move up into the first round to draft a player with notable work ethic issues, who is well on his way to becoming a convicted felon.
he also burned a 3rd rounder to draft perpetually injured sam beal in the supplemental.
slice it any way you want, gettleman's overseen the construction of a defense that's bottom of the league and looks to be getting worse.
I don't share your pessimistic view of this defense. They're rebuilding and have made some smart moves, and a few that were questionable
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unless there is off the field stuff indicating this type of behavior, hard to blame this on Gettleman.
he traded multiple picks to move up into the first round to draft a player with notable work ethic issues, who is well on his way to becoming a convicted felon.
he also burned a 3rd rounder to draft perpetually injured sam beal in the supplemental.
slice it any way you want, gettleman's overseen the construction of a defense that's bottom of the league and looks to be getting worse.
don't forget the burned 3rd and 5th rounders for LW
trading multiple picks for ogletree- whiff
trading multiple picks for leonard williams- whiff
trading multiple picks to draft baker- whiff
blowing a 3rd to draft beal in the supplemental- whiff
getting zero return for jenkins- whiff
not re-signing collins and getting peppers for cheap in the OBJ trade and playing the waiting game with golden are about the only moves i see that could be construed as 'smart.'
still can't see how it's anything other than a bottom three defense in the NFL from a talent standpoint.
lol
But didn't we hear that Georgia coaches suggested that sometimes they had to light a fire under Baker's ass?
If that's true AND the Giants knew about it pre-draft, then you could certainly question DG for the pick.
The brunt? One guy on the thread blaming Gettleman.
Just defend him and you'll cancel each other out.
So either he flipped, as some are saying, or something does't add up.
I'm not trying to sound like an apologist here, but the whole case doesn't add up to me. Why would a 1st-round draft pick rob people of $750,000 of jewelry at a dice game? This sounds more like a set-up/shakedown to me.
Not so nutty to me. Baker robbed several people at gunpoint, paid them off to change their story until the DA threatened to charge them for changing their story and they folded. And it looks like Dunbar may have flipped as well to avoid prosecution. Pretty simple actually.
Why shouldn’t he? Or at least a share,
I don't share your pessimistic view of this defense. They're rebuilding and have made some smart moves, and a few that were questionable
More like such weird, weird lawyers.
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Baker because he's so similar to Bradberry. Btw, this whole case seems nutty and not sure he won't beat it.
Not so nutty to me. Baker robbed several people at gunpoint, paid them off to change their story until the DA threatened to charge them for changing their story and they folded. And it looks like Dunbar may have flipped as well to avoid prosecution. Pretty simple actually.
Just to clarify, this is my speculation, who knows what actually happened.
So either he flipped, as some are saying, or something does't add up.
I'm not trying to sound like an apologist here, but the whole case doesn't add up to me. Why would a 1st-round draft pick rob people of $750,000 of jewelry at a dice game? This sounds more like a set-up/shakedown to me.
Rich people that came from rough backgrounds get caught doing shit like this all the time.
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I hear you guys, but if you recall, the police reports after the incident said the get-away car(s) were stationed in advance and that Dunbar was an accomplice.
So either he flipped, as some are saying, or something does't add up.
I'm not trying to sound like an apologist here, but the whole case doesn't add up to me. Why would a 1st-round draft pick rob people of $750,000 of jewelry at a dice game? This sounds more like a set-up/shakedown to me.
Rich people that came from rough backgrounds get caught doing shit like this all the time.
The reporting on this case has been awful.....
And says he will have a more formal statement later.
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Still better than Rocky Thompson and Eldridge Small.
And says he will have a more formal statement later.
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Nice spelling by the lawyer. "prosecutuon" "case filier"