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Besides Bavaro, favorite Giant tight ends of all time?

CMicks3110 : 8/8/2020 12:40 pm
1) Jeremy Shockey
2) Kevin Boss
3) Howard Cross
4) Martellus 'Unicorn' Bennett
5) Pete MitchelL
6) Aaron Pierce
7) Evan Engram
8) Derek Brown
9) Dan Campbell
10) Larry Donnell
11) Visanthe Shiancoe
12) Bear Pascoe
13) Jake Ballard
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My Dad loved watching Bob Tucker  
Paulie Walnuts : 8/8/2020 3:47 pm : link
..
Bob Mrosko  
Hazlet Giant's Fan : 8/8/2020 3:50 pm : link
Always a shot of him in Super Bowl highlights.
Shockey ...Tucker  
BCD : 8/8/2020 3:52 pm : link
that's easy...
Bob Tucker #38  
pa_giant_fan : 8/8/2020 3:59 pm : link
He was one of the only good things about the Giants from 1970-1977.
Like Eric, I can't believe Mowatt was not on the list  
Matt M. : 8/8/2020 4:11 pm : link
Was becoming a real star. He got bumped by Bavaro after his injury, but returned to be just about the best #2 TE around.

My next choice is Cross. He may not have been a great pass catcher and he wasn't running away from anyone. But, he made some big catches. Most importantly, he was like having a 3rd OT. There were times they left him 1 on 1 with some good TEs with no dropoff.

Then Shockey.
Cross for me...  
trueblueinpw : 8/8/2020 4:12 pm : link
I don’t know him personally, though we’ve talked a few times at games, but I get the impression that Howard Cross is a really good person. Anyway, on the field he was a terrific blocker and a great competitor. I also love Cross on the radio because he’s very smart and insightful and honest and respectful but he isn’t afraid to give his opinion even when it’s not flattering to the Giants. He’s a great sideline game day radio reporter. His interviews with players are also very good.

Cross is one of my all time favorite Giants. I think he represents the very best of the New York Football Giants.
RE: Cross for me...  
Matt M. : 8/8/2020 4:30 pm : link
In comment 14946123 trueblueinpw said:
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I don’t know him personally, though we’ve talked a few times at games, but I get the impression that Howard Cross is a really good person. Anyway, on the field he was a terrific blocker and a great competitor. I also love Cross on the radio because he’s very smart and insightful and honest and respectful but he isn’t afraid to give his opinion even when it’s not flattering to the Giants. He’s a great sideline game day radio reporter. His interviews with players are also very good.

Cross is one of my all time favorite Giants. I think he represents the very best of the New York Football Giants.
I agree with every word you wrote here.
RE: Bob Tucker, Howard Cross, and Aaron Thomas  
River Mike : 8/8/2020 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14946018 Red Dog said:
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Nobody else even comes close except maybe Joe Walton.

Shockey was a flaming asshole who forced his way off the GIANTS. Screw him.

None of these other guys contributed much or were here for long.


Those are the one's I was going to name. Didn't think anyone would remember Aaron Thomas
Bob Tucker  
noro9 : 8/8/2020 5:25 pm : link
Howard Cross
Shockey  
Aaroninma : 8/8/2020 5:53 pm : link
This caused me to look at some of the TE'/s that Eli played with.

My LEAST favorite TEs? Will Tye, Larry, Brandon Myers, Aaron Pierce,
The further we get from shockey’s nyg career  
djm : 8/8/2020 6:27 pm : link
The more we should miss him. That dude balled out and left everything on the field. Yeah he was an Irish loud mouth idiot when he wanted to be but this game isn’t played by deep thinkers.

Shockey played on nyg teams that went to the playoffs 4 out of 6 seasons. He was a big part of that. The offense grew teeth the minute he arrived. We Need another shockey.
Favorite TE  
CowboyHaters : 8/8/2020 7:05 pm : link
Gary Shirk- former WFL TE.


Who was the TE who tripped over his own two feet  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/8/2020 7:41 pm : link
vs. Denver in '13? I remember watching that at a cousin's in Maine & almost breaking the TV with my pint glass. God, those post XLVI years were ugly. Well, absent '16, are ugly...
No.love for  
Lurts : 8/8/2020 9:21 pm : link
Bob Crespino or Dick (aka "Rich") Kotite?
Bob Tucker  
Hammer : 8/8/2020 11:43 pm : link
belongs near the top...
Bob Schnelker  
Andy340350 : 8/9/2020 4:03 am : link
Starter on ‘56, ‘58 and ‘59 teams. 2-time Pro Bowler. Should be on the list. Check his YPC from 1954 to 1960 on NFL.com.
My Dad loved Bob Schnelker. He was a weapon back  
LBH15 : 8/9/2020 9:14 am : link
when tight ends were never weapons. Good call here.
Tucker clearly after Bavaro.  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/9/2020 9:33 am : link
Though I have a soft spot for Boss thanks to his awesome contribution to SB 42.
Bavaro  
PaulN : 8/9/2020 9:40 am : link
Joe Walton, Bob Tucker, Zeke Mowatt, Howard Cross, Jeremy Shockey, and Kevin Boss. If I have to pick the best, that is easy, Bavaro, Shockey, and Tucker. But Mowatt would have been really good if an injury not given Bavaro his shot, we were real happy moving forward with Mowatt. In 1984 Mowatt had 48 catches for 700 yards, and he was a great blocker, scored 6 TD's in 84 also, missed the entire 85 season with knee surgery, having Bavaro and Mowatt in double tight end sets was a very under rated weapon we had, nobody said much about it, but I have a feeling Belechick didn't let it go unnoticed.
Shockey was awesome.  
RicFlair : 8/9/2020 10:19 am : link
Leapin Larry was a big part of the only giants home game I attended, when Eli hit Larry for the game winning touchdown. So much fun.

People hate on the stadium but watching an exciting win there was amazing. I hugged so many random people.
Really liked the unicorn  
Alex_Webster : 8/9/2020 12:16 pm : link
Just think our cap situation made it tough to keep him.
Who knew how much we would miss a blocking tight end like Cross.
Probably Shockey, with hopefully Engram to pass him.  
D-Rod : 8/9/2020 1:13 pm : link
But for that one year, I truly did enjoy watching Jake Ballard play. Guy was slow, but could get himself open on those seam routes.
Bob Tucker  
HomerJones45 : 8/9/2020 1:46 pm : link
Great player.
RE: Really liked the unicorn  
Milton : 8/9/2020 3:12 pm : link
In comment 14946519 Alex_Webster said:
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Just think our cap situation made it tough to keep him.
I didn't like Bennett at all (probably my least favorite TE of all). A big mouth who just didn't get it. The cap situation was just an excuse, they didn't want him back. They could've easily afforded him.
Derek Brown?  
Matt G : 8/9/2020 3:37 pm : link
Every one of the guys on that list was leaps and bounds better than Brown... If Kaden Smith retired tomorrow, he's had a better career than Derek Brown

Derek Brown was a complete DOG
RE: The further we get from shockey’s nyg career  
Milton : 8/9/2020 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14946215 djm said:
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The more we should miss him. That dude balled out and left everything on the field. Yeah he was an Irish loud mouth idiot when he wanted to be but this game isn’t played by deep thinkers.
But they need to know their left from their right when running patterns. The truth is he didn't "ball out and leave everything on the field." In his mind he worked his ass off, but it was all in his mind. The reality is he could've worked a helluva lot harder than he did. He had the ability to be much more productive than he was, but he didn't put in the necessary work. He drank too much and didn't take care of his body.
I'd take Shockey over Bavaro  
Grey Pilgrim : 8/9/2020 4:39 pm : link
jmo
Tucker, Summerall, Joe Walton, Aaron Thomas, there are others, need  
plato : 8/9/2020 5:54 pm : link
Some generational perspective and adjustments for changes in game. Of all Tucker was greatest pass catching TE, but Bavaro great player and person.
RE: I'd take Shockey over Bavaro  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/9/2020 6:09 pm : link
In comment 14946734 Grey Pilgrim said:
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jmo


You need to look up Bavaro catch Monday night vs 49ers on you tube to get your head set straight about what tough really means.

Until Eli dodged out of Adalius Thomas's grip and launched one to Tyree, that was my choice for most amazing and inspiring play in Giants history.
RE: RE: I'd take Shockey over Bavaro  
Grey Pilgrim : 8/9/2020 6:16 pm : link
In comment 14946771 BlueLou'sBack said:
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In comment 14946734 Grey Pilgrim said:


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jmo



You need to look up Bavaro catch Monday night vs 49ers on you tube to get your head set straight about what tough really means.

Until Eli dodged out of Adalius Thomas's grip and launched one to Tyree, that was my choice for most amazing and inspiring play in Giants history.

I've seen it. It's right up there with Mark Ingram's tremendous effort play in Superbowl 25.

IMO Shockey was the more explosive player.

They're close though.

If you meant  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/9/2020 6:42 pm : link
"more explosive personality" I'd agree.
RE: Bob Tucker Love  
uconngiant : 8/9/2020 7:07 pm : link
In comment 14946046 Arkbach said:
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Good synapsis of his Giants career. Also note who was mentioned as the inventor of the West Coast Offense. Link - ( New Window )


Now that brings back some good memories of Tucker, but some terrible memories of the Giant's sucking

Thanks
Aaron Thomas  
DG : 8/10/2020 2:08 am : link
and Bob Tucker.

Tom Mullady anyone (-:

Been watching YouTube videos of Giants games from 1967-69.
if you think the current OL is bad, you should watch the late 1960s vintage Giants OL.

Sir Francis was always running for his life. He made plays out of nothing. Forgot how creative he was.
Couple of Head Sctratchers on your list:  
UticaMike : 8/10/2020 9:05 am : link
Pete Mitchell- really?

Larry Donnell- he would actually probably be on my list of least favorite Giants tight ends

Derek Brown- is this a joke?

Aaron Pierce and Shiancoe- pretty much JAGs

You might as well throw Will Tye on there bro. Just a very odd list.
Ballard  
cjac : 8/10/2020 9:46 am : link
would be way higher on that list if he didnt get hurt
Bob Tucker and Shockey definitely best behind Bavaro...  
x meadowlander : 8/10/2020 10:10 am : link
...but the category is *favorite* and my 2nd favorite was the Meat Wagon, Jake Ballard. A mountain of at Tight End at 6'6", 275lbs, we were all surprised by his soft hands, ability to find open seams, what fun to see someone that large romping through defensive backfields - Ballard had big play ability. Contributed greatly to the 2011 Super Bowl win.

Before he got himself into trouble, I really enjoyed Zeke Mowatt too - he and Bavaro were a deadly pair.

Howard Cross was an outstanding run blocker through the 90's - great TE.
I have only two FAVORITES  
Bleedin Blue : 8/10/2020 11:22 am : link
My top is Bavaro followed by Tucker. Bob Tucker was a bright spot on some bleak teams! Bavaro what can I say other than we’re talking Bavaro!
There are others that I really like, Shockey, Boss and Ballard.
#87  
tator : 8/10/2020 11:24 am : link
Gary Shirk
RE: #87  
x meadowlander : 8/10/2020 11:41 am : link
In comment 14947050 tator said:
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Gary Shirk
Shirk is easy to forget, but in the late 70's, he was arguably the most reliable receiver on the team. Some eye-popping catches too - really good Tight End. On a horrible offense, he and Tom Mullady were actually not bad.
thank you for mentioning Shirk. His classic response to what Giants  
plato : 8/10/2020 11:50 am : link
needed most was a “tight end” was humor plus his humility. He was the first player from Moorhead state in the League, and certainly on the Giants. The second was Phil Simms.

Thanks great and awful memories of those teams Shirk played on.
RE: HowTucker is not even on the above list is ridiculous  
Carson53 : 8/10/2020 6:47 pm : link
In comment 14946065 gtt350 said:
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The young man has probably never heard of Tucker.
Shockey  
Darth Paul : 8/10/2020 6:54 pm : link
It's not even close. His attitude with something this team needed and he played with fire. I'm glad Brandon Jacobs came along when he was hurt.
Bob Tucker  
Bubba : 8/11/2020 7:06 am : link
If not on your list you never saw him play. Not just the best TE on the team but one of the best in the league at that time.
While he wore his frustrations on his sleeve, Shockey  
chick310 : 8/11/2020 7:14 am : link
was a really impactful TE for the team and was so right out of the gate. He needed to be accounted for by the defense which is exactly why he was drafted so early.

Shockey was more talented than Bavaro...  
x meadowlander : 8/11/2020 8:49 am : link
...never the run blocker Bavaro was, but his speed, quickness, power - a huge playmaker, Jeremy Shockey was the best Tight End the Giants ever had. He was an insufferable, narcissistic putz, prone to BIG drops, poorly timed unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, he was one of the biggest assholes the Giants ever fielded.

But his talent is undeniable. Phenomenal player. For the most part, put his money where his mouth was.
Cross, Boss, Ballard  
CT Charlie : 8/11/2020 9:39 am : link
and Martellus the kid-catching-Black-Unicorn Bennett.
RE: Here is my list:  
widmerseyebrow : 8/11/2020 11:19 am : link
In comment 14946038 robbieballs2003 said:
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1. Brandon Myers
2. Travis Beckum

Haha.


Myers...jesus was he terrible.
Shiancoe was actually pretty good  
widmerseyebrow : 8/11/2020 11:23 am : link
once he started getting starter minutes in Minnesota he was legit.

Larry Donnell...it still does not compute how that guy could make some incredible circus catches and then look so uncoordinated running, flipping, and fumbling the football away.
RE: I would have to say  
bobtucker38 : 8/11/2020 10:06 pm : link
Bob Tucker #38!!!!
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Banks : 8/12/2020 12:33 am : link
In my lifetime, only Shockey and Cross come to mind. Cross was as good as they come in regard to blocking, but he couldn't catch anything even with those big mitts.

Shockey started the TE renaissance. His rookie year was something else and sent everyone scrambling for their Shockey. His rookie year would have been even more amazing if he wasn't constantly penalized (not always his fault) or if he wasn't always seemingly tackled on the 1 yard line.

All people focus on now is receiving, but Shockey was the best complete TE in a very long time. It's been nearly 20 years since he was drafted and I still don't see a more complete TE. Unfortunately for him, he began his career at the tail end of the era where you could still nail the receivers and he was always going full force. This led to injuries and a short prime. Had he come in the league 5 years later, he'd be the dominant force at the position. So despite all his shenanigans he will always a hold a place in my heart.
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