Stapleton: Giants to sign Ross Cockrell

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into opposing offensive coordinators.

In comment 14946243 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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into opposing offensive coordinators.

How can he? You have said NUMEROUS times that you can't see a season taking place.

Dan Duggan
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Makes sense. Competent NFL veteran, can play slot or outside, likely comes cheap


Bobby Skinner
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Giants sign CB Ross Cockrell

2019 opponent stats:
14 games played
37/67 55.2% 450 yds 1 TD 2 INT

Those are decent numbers for a guy who played 2/3 of the snaps.

I think they'll do their best to plow through, but do they finish? Time will tell. It depends what the country looks like this fall when flu/cold season come back around along with COVID showing no signs of abating. But I think they'll get it off the ground because there's too much $ at stake.

In comment 14946247 Defenderdawg said:

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Dan Duggan ⁦‪@DDuggan21‬⁩ Makes sense. Competent NFL veteran, can play slot or outside, likely comes cheap Bobby Skinner ⁦‪@BobbySkinner_‬⁩ Giants sign CB Ross Cockrell 2019 opponent stats: 14 games played 37/67 55.2% 450 yds 1 TD 2 INT Those are decent numbers for a guy who played 2/3 of the snaps.

And if im not mistaken (I could be off by a season) this was coming off of a horrific injury which put him on the shelf for a year. Im happy with this, liked him when he was here before.

I still hope that they sign Dre Kirkpatrick but Cockrell is still a solid veteran. They need all the help they can get across from Bradberry.

can't be much, last contract was $3mil annual, can't imagine he got more than that.

could use it for a trade. Wonder if we could swap lorenzo carter for someone decent.

not a bad pick up at this stage.

giving the kids all the reps sounds good until they are getting burned and flagged constantly like Baker, Haley, and Ballentine. Having 1 or 2 guys get obliterated isn't good for anybody, demoralizes them and the team around them.

I still wouldn't be shocked to see them add another CB at some point. Balentine and Holmes are both intriguing prospects but it remains to be seen if they are ready for every down roles.

A competent #2 boundary CB that’s familiar with the organization. Can’t ask for much more at this point.

Was a Giant in 2017 (McAdoo’s final year) so Patrick Graham is familiar with him.

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And at 29....should still be playing well.

2 years removed from a broken leg....should also help.

Good pick up and competition for the other CB spot.

there was all sorts of concern in the off-season about who would be our fourth corner. We had Jackrabbit, DRC and Apple but nobody behind them. Much of BBI was quite distressed over this. Well we found that guy in Ross Cockrell who did a nice job but we sprung a few leaks elsewhere...lol.

I assume its a budget friendly one year deal and Cockrell will provide some veteran stability.

They are down 2 corners, but only Beal's salary is freed up. Been a while but he did have a good year for us a few years back.

He could be a decent system fit as well.

...competent, third-tier vets like Cockrell could be more valuable than usual. Setting a floor under key positions figures to be even more difficult than in a normal year.

In comment 14946254 CMicks3110 said:

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could use it for a trade. Wonder if we could swap lorenzo carter for someone decent.

We have the Leonard Williams 4th round pick. It's the Leonard Williams 5th round pick that we don't have.

What are we doing?

I'm okay with this. Guessing it will be pretty darn cheap.

In comment 14946345 Dave in Hoboken said:

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I'm okay with this. Guessing it will be pretty darn cheap.

Ditto.

In comment 14946249 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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I think they'll do their best to plow through, but do they finish? Time will tell. It depends what the country looks like this fall when flu/cold season come back around along with COVID showing no signs of abating. But I think they'll get it off the ground because there's too much $ at stake.

The coronavirus is here to stay, even with a vaccine. I have yet to read or hear from any scientist, medical personnel , government official, how we learn to live with it, as we do with other contagions, other than the stifling mitigation’s still in place.

Do we ever do what Sweden did? The latest CDC shows maybe it is behind them, dear God, I hope so, but we shall see.

While Sweden s death rate surpassed ours, and their recovery rate was slower than ours during the lock down, it might be behind them now.

This is a legitimate question, maybe borne of ignorance, but legit nevertheless.

Please don’t make it political. I for one am willing to move forward, respect others, but make my own personal choices.

Said giants to sign the other two players who visited also. Jackson Dennis and Cody White

It is either eradicate or live with....we seem to be in some weird middle ground.

I assuming it is waiting game until the vaccine....as

Heard immunity while protecting the infirm..is only way we move forward. More cases less deaths....is what we need.....as we are well passed eradicating it.

In comment 14946391 CMicks3110 said:

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Said giants to sign the other two players who visited also. Jackson Dennis and Cody White

A WR and an OL who have zero chance to make the team ... I wonder if the plan is to bring in numbers that would have some knowledge of the playbook if needed in an emergency later in the season ... fills 2 positions of guys who opted out.

Science has, with less sophisticated technology beat far worse illnesses into submission ... and science will again prevail sending those nasty pangolin microbes back into the ground.

As roster players missing games due.to covid is likely....

I am sure things will work out....i wish it wasn't so political, but I guess we are in that season.

the team actually got better in my mind with this

Better then they will ever become, he is a solid player, has anyone forgot the mess we had last year. There is no longer a mess back there now. I believe McKinney will be good, I think Love will improve greatly, we may actually have a pretty good secondary now, that was not a certainty with Beal or Baker. A lot of people like Holmes to, and we have Peppers. I wanted this guy back, I love this move.

Better then they will ever become, he is a solid player, has anyone forgot the mess we had last year. There is no longer a mess back there now. I believe McKinney will be good, I think Love will improve greatly, we may actually have a pretty good secondary now, that was not a certainty with Beal or Baker. A lot of people like Holmes to, and we have Peppers. I wanted this guy back, I love this move.

I don’t think he has the athletic ability to play an outside CB. I think he’s ok at the slot and certainly an upgrade over Haley if he’s healthy. The plan was to bring in Holmes to play the slot and it’s questionable if he has the size to play the outside. So, unless Love or somebody else can play the outside CB, I think there’s still a problem.

In comment 14946413 Samiam said:

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I don’t think he has the athletic ability to play an outside CB. I think he’s ok at the slot and certainly an upgrade over Haley if he’s healthy. The plan was to bring in Holmes to play the slot and it’s questionable if he has the size to play the outside. So, unless Love or somebody else can play the outside CB, I think there’s still a problem.

Why do you feel Cockrell can't play on the outside?

I think everybody should read this. There is a blurb about how the Pats use their guys that I think Graham may implore with us.
Link - ( New Window )

In comment 14946424 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 14946413 Samiam said: Quote: I don’t think he has the athletic ability to play an outside CB. I think he’s ok at the slot and certainly an upgrade over Haley if he’s healthy. The plan was to bring in Holmes to play the slot and it’s questionable if he has the size to play the outside. So, unless Love or somebody else can play the outside CB, I think there’s still a problem. Why do you feel Cockrell can't play on the outside? I think everybody should read this. There is a blurb about how the Pats use their guys that I think Graham may implore with us. Link - ( New Window )

And what athletic ability is he lacking that he cannot play on the outside?
At his Duke pro day, Cockrell ran a 4.40 40-yard dash at 6-feet tall and 190 pounds. He also logged an explosive 39-inch vertical jump and 12 bench press reps at 225 pounds. Entering the 2017 season, Cockrell had never allowed a touchdown in primary coverage, according to PFF.[/quote]
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he is competent in a few different positions and won't kill you, but he also isn't a guy who teams will be afraid to test.

He is however 100% an upgrade over what they got out of both Baker outside and Haley in the slot last year. He makes the team better and in that respect it is a good signing since it's also likely very low cost. He will allow Holmes and Balentine to progress as their own pace and the defense/team to not suffer in the process if they need more time.

Ryan is a better player with extra versatility and may have been more of a multi-year piece (similar to the Golden Tate signing) but there's also some reason to be concerned his play may be falling off a little so I can understand if their evaluation of him doesn't line up with the price tag he's looking for having come off a pro bowl season.

is Ryan better? When I look up how they have played the last few years I can make the argument that Cockrell has been better.

is an excellent signing. As others have noted, he's been effective outside and in the slot. He's also much cheaper than someone like Ryan.

In comment 14946443 robbieballs2003 said:

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is Ryan better? When I look up how they have played the last few years I can make the argument that Cockrell has been better.

Ryan was certainly more dynamic if you look at his big play production and he's got 1 extra layer of versatility having played safety before.

4 ints / 18 passes defensed
4 FF
4.5 sacks
4 TFL's
8 QB hits (which would have been as many as anyone on our roster except LW, MG, and Carter).

That amount of turnovers and negative offensive plays probably stacks up with any defensive player in football last year.

Whether the pro bowl alternate/top 100 stuff is more name recognition that goes along with those big plays, or legitimate I don't know. If his tackling and coverage took a step back on the other 99% of snaps he played as PFF says I can understand the hesitation at signing him over the risk that perhaps the big play production was a little flukey.

In comment 14946465 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 14946443 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: is Ryan better? When I look up how they have played the last few years I can make the argument that Cockrell has been better. Ryan was certainly more dynamic if you look at his big play production and he's got 1 extra layer of versatility having played safety before. 4 ints / 18 passes defensed 4 FF 4.5 sacks 4 TFL's 8 QB hits (which would have been as many as anyone on our roster except LW, MG, and Carter). That amount of turnovers and negative offensive plays probably stacks up with any defensive player in football last year. Whether the pro bowl alternate/top 100 stuff is more name recognition that goes along with those big plays, or legitimate I don't know. If his tackling and coverage took a step back on the other 99% of snaps he played as PFF says I can understand the hesitation at signing him over the risk that perhaps the big play production was a little flukey.

Correct. He has a big advantage in big plays but also gave up the most passing yards of any DB and was targeted the most. Great DBs don't get targeted a ton. He had like 20 kissed tackles last year as well.

lol, obviously missed.

among all defensive players last year those numbers qualify as:

6th most in FF behind just TJ Watt, Barrett, Chandler Jones, Mack, and Ryan Anderson.
13th best in INT (league leaders had 6)
3rd most passes defensed behind Gilmore and Carlton Davis
most QB hits + sacks among DBs

if you add that all up it amounts to 38 negative plays which like I said is probably highest among all DB's and maybe even all defensive players.

but there were 1000+ other snaps he played that are a huge part of his evaluation we can't evaluate as easily.

which may mean more upside. The missed tackles and poorer coverage grades may also mean more downside to go along with more $ cost.

I would have understood NYG either way and would have been happy to sign either player (even both) on team friendly contracts.

Given where we are in the offseason, this is a solid move. Cockrell seemed relatively reliable when he was here in 2017(?) - it's decent depth.

Obviously it's not Logan Ryan, but it's a vet who has been around and should be able to step in and not be a disaster if we need him.

If he winds up on the field a lot, that's not a good sign. But, in a pinch, we could do worse.

and did not flat out say Cockrell is better. If I am running a defense I don't want basically an all or nothing guy in Ryan at this stage especially for the price tag he supposedly wants. If I am Graham I want players doing their job and a lot of time a good DB is like a good OL, if you don't hear their name that is a good thing. Tennessee was 24th in passing YPG last year. I was interested in Ryan but the more I look into it I am happier with Cockrell. He has size, speed, experience, flexibility, and is familiar with us. And the price should be much cheaper than Ryan. I wonder if it is a multi-year deal or not.

On other threads, it has been argued that signing veterans to fill gaps isn’t worth the cap space, and that the Giants should be developing younger players until the team is competitive a couple of years down the road. At this point, with a lot of 2-year and 3-year players, the team needs to show some improvement, at least to encourage those players to stick around and put out the effort to move forward. We need more than another 4-5 win season. We need a 7-9 win season to show future FAs that this team is going to be a regular playoff caliber team.

Cockrell is a very serviceable player, solid depth at worst, who should not cost very much money and is not a long term contract.. Even if he has to be starting on the outside, he is better than some schlub who would be the weak link of the defense, no matter how the scheme tries to hide him.

about. This still should not put a big our cap space for the crowd that wants to preserve our cap space for next year. This should be viewed as a positive for those that felt we needed another CB on the roster that is reliable. This also should be viewed as a positive for those that want to allow the young kids to play. If someone like Ballentine steps up then Cockrell should not be blocking (pun intended) him from playing. Same for Holmes.

I also like that article I posted that states how Belichick doesn't view DBs as starters. He looks at them as players. We have heard Judge and Graham say they will be multiple and part of that means matching up on the backend. It'll be like remember the Titans when the DB couldn't keep up with the WR and they changed players.

actually played pretty darn well for us in 2017.

In comment 14946289 robbieballs2003 said:

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Quote: Daniel Jones and Ross Cockrell both attended Charlotte Latin High School. Daniel Jones & Ross Cockrell both are Duke Blue Devils. Yes - definitely a noteworthy factoid. Daniel Jones & Ross Cockrell are both New York Giants now.

was this kid on the street? Everyone needs CB help.

Ross Cockrell continues to show he deserves a long term spot on this team, meaning he needs to be on this team in 2018. He brought in 2 interceptions, both of which he showed excellent body control and ball skills, 1 of which was in the end zone. This will be one of the major positives that comes out of the 2017 season; he has played exceptionally well and has steadily improved with the more playing time he got.

In all honesty with no bias, Ross Cockrell may have played the CB position better than anyone in the NFL over the past 4 weeks. While he hasn’t been overly tested when it comes to quality of his opponent, Cockrell has been dominant. He broke up 4 passes and intercepted another one. He is in the running for a starting job next year and it would be a help when it comes to their approach in FA and the draft if they know he is gonna be the guy.

Agree he was one of the few bright spots that 2017 season and its not like the pass defense had too much talent.

and both had an immense number of DB's on the field each week.

Both had 11-12 DBs on the 53 with almost all of them being active each game. Both also had like 8 different players playing significant snaps each game (30-40%+). Graham was playing 5 guys defined as safeties that many snaps each game.

So for this roster, before any injuries hit, we are probably looking at:

1. Bradberry (every snap he's healthy for)
2. Peppers (every snap he's healthy for)
3. McKinney (even as a rookie probably every snap he's healthy for)
4. Love (a lot of snaps in some kind of safety role)
5. Holmes (as many CB snaps as he can handle - likely primary nickel)
6. Cockerill (whatever outside or inside snaps 4 & 5 can't handle)
7. Balentine (depth outside snaps)
8. Williamson (depth snaps wherever he fits best)
9. Hartage (seems like a Graham guy so I wouldn't be shocked if he ends up playing more than 7 & 8)
10. Haley (I really hope someone knocks him off the roster)
11. Askew (who knows)
12. Ebner (STs)

I think there was room for another DB before Baker + Beal went out of the picture since there's always an injury or 2, so once they did a signing like Cockerill was necessary. Had they signed Logan Ryan he'd have had the upside to slot in at #2 or 3 and played every snap he was healthy for. I doubt they go for Ryan after adding Cockerill but another pickup may be necessary depending on their feelings on some of the young guys they've signed. They'd also tried to claim the CB who played with Graham in Miami a few weeks ago so I suspect we will continue to see a little bit of churn with those last couple DB spots.

In comment 14946644 LBH15 said:

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Agree he was one of the few bright spots that 2017 season and its not like the pass defense had too much talent.

I believe he signed as a UFA for more money than the Giants were comfortable paying him.

why didn’t they hold onto the guy? Apple being here shouldn’t have been a deterrent.

press man system. Haha. If we only knew we'd barely be pressing anyway.

In comment 14946676 robbieballs2003 said:

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press man system. Haha. If we only knew we'd barely be pressing anyway.

Bettcher’s system wasn’t a good fit for the Giants. Unfortunately the last few guys in here haven’t either.

at least Shurmur had some positive contribution towards the future the remains with Jones. Bettcher was a turd from beginning to end and literally every guy he brought over from AZ sucked except Golden.

In comment 14946667 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 14946644 LBH15 said: Quote: Agree he was one of the few bright spots that 2017 season and its not like the pass defense had too much talent. I believe he signed as a UFA for more money than the Giants were comfortable paying him.

Guys like Jonathan Stewart were the priority back then I guess.

In comment 14946738 LBH15 said:

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In comment 14946676 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: press man system. Haha. If we only knew we'd barely be pressing anyway. Bettcher’s system wasn’t a good fit for the Giants. Unfortunately the last few guys in here haven’t either.

I didn't realize Bettcher had a system

real riches to rags story.

Admittedly, he had some decent talent in AZ, but still his Giant tenure - lot of confusion, blown coverages, questionable schemes

failed to retain a talented player in Cockrell and didn't develop the players he retained. I'd love to hear from the players what went on with that defense

He had one in Arizona

In comment 14946743 LBH15 said:

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Guys like Jonathan Stewart were the priority back then I guess.

If you take a spin in the time machine, there is a fabulous quote in a Jonathan Stewart thread on the relative value of Cockrell vs. Stewart.

In comment 14946752 christian said:

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In comment 14946743 LBH15 said: Quote: Guys like Jonathan Stewart were the priority back then I guess. If you take a spin in the time machine, there is a fabulous quote in a Jonathan Stewart thread on the relative value of Cockrell vs. Stewart.

Fill us in

Panthers signed him as UFA to 2-Years, $6.8 million contract.

Has started and played well on the outside, but there idiots here to despute facts, BBI is becoming a breading ground for sport no nothings with no desire to look for facts, when you can bitch and try to sound like you know something by reading other idiots nonsense, Logan Ryan is a slot corner who has played on the outside some, Cockrell an outside corner who has played plenty of slot also, but we are in trouble if he has to play outside, ok then, brilliant, don't let the stats get into your way, follow it up with some Gettleman bashing, must be smart if he is bashing Gettleman.

In comment 14946754 LBH15 said:

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If you take a spin in the time machine, there is a fabulous quote in a Jonathan Stewart thread on the relative value of Cockrell vs. Stewart. Fill us in

The names have been removed to protect the innocent. As noted Stewart and Cockrell signed nearly identical contracts that offseason. Both guys ended up on IR for most/all of '18, Cockrell was able to book a respectable year as a part time starter in '19. I think Stewart might be a rapper now?

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Ross Cockerell -------- : 7/10/2018 4:39 pm : link : reply signed for the exact same money 2/6.8 million I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that Giants are better off with JS than RC. Are you kidding me??? ------ -- --------- : 7/11/2018 8:20 am : link Ross Cockrell makes us a better team? Stewart at least fills a need we've sorely been lacking - a goal line/short yardage runner. Exactly what role does Cockrell fill? 4th or 5th CB??

Didnt see a link posted for this film study yet, so if it was posted already I apologize.
Cockrell Film Study from BigBlueView - ( New Window )

In comment 14946803 christian said:

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In comment 14946754 LBH15 said: Quote: If you take a spin in the time machine, there is a fabulous quote in a Jonathan Stewart thread on the relative value of Cockrell vs. Stewart. Fill us in The names have been removed to protect the innocent. As noted Stewart and Cockrell signed nearly identical contracts that offseason. Both guys ended up on IR for most/all of '18, Cockrell was able to book a respectable year as a part time starter in '19. I think Stewart might be a rapper now? Quote: Ross Cockerell -------- : 7/10/2018 4:39 pm : link : reply signed for the exact same money 2/6.8 million I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that Giants are better off with JS than RC. Are you kidding me??? ------ -- --------- : 7/11/2018 8:20 am : link Ross Cockrell makes us a better team? Stewart at least fills a need we've sorely been lacking - a goal line/short yardage runner. Exactly what role does Cockrell fill? 4th or 5th CB??

The team sorely needed a short yardage runner? I think the Giants lead the league in short runs each year.

both got hurt that particular year so any game of gotcha isn't really all that revealing. Stewart's shelf life expired earlier because he plays RB and had a lot more tread on the tires, but he was not much different than Dion Lewis now (Lewis has less wear and tear). As Cockrell now isn't that much different than RW McQuarters (07) or Deon Grant ('10) or Keith Bullock ('10), or Leon Hall (16) or Antoine Bethea (18). Some vets towards the end of the road work out and some don't.

Right now in the present without the benefit of hindsight I don't think there's a wildly different value between Cockrell or Lewis either - as the league doesn't since their $ is likely similar. They are depth players we are hoping don't have to see significant time - and that's how all of the above were paid too, with some contributing more than expected and others contributing less.

Perhaps DG gets desperate soon, but not seeing a Logan Ryan in the cards otherwise.

In comment 14946743 LBH15 said:

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In comment 14946667 Mike in NY said: Quote: In comment 14946644 LBH15 said: Quote: Agree he was one of the few bright spots that 2017 season and its not like the pass defense had too much talent. I believe he signed as a UFA for more money than the Giants were comfortable paying him. Guys like Jonathan Stewart were the priority back then I guess.

I see that handles may change but that fixations stay the same....

Cockrell actually played pretty good ball and worked his way into the Panthers starting lineup for 11 games last year post injury. He had a really decent 55% completion against and 69 rating against on 67 targets. He’s a good bet to start opposite Bradberry. He’s also many years younger than all of the players you noted.

When the Panthers signed him, he was entering his 5th year in the NFL and 26-years-old. He was in a much different part of his career than Stewart. It’s no surprise he’s still a relevant NFL player and Stewart is, whatever Stewart is.

In comment 14946958 Jonesin 4 A Ship said:

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Didnt see a link posted for this film study yet, so if it was posted already I apologize. Cockrell Film Study from BigBlueView - ( New Window )

Cockrell is more than adequate to play in the Giant secondary. Read that he had a pretty brutal injury in the 2018 so 2019 year was a nice comeback.

In comment 14947008 chick310 said:

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In comment 14946958 Jonesin 4 A Ship said: Quote: Didnt see a link posted for this film study yet, so if it was posted already I apologize. Cockrell Film Study from BigBlueView - ( New Window ) Cockrell is more than adequate to play in the Giant secondary. Read that he had a pretty brutal injury in the 2018 so 2019 year was a nice comeback.

It’s a good signing. Gettleman is doing a nice job picking up one year deals for vets who should crack the lineup, contribute, and give the younger players time to develop.

In comment 14947007 christian said:

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Cockrell actually played pretty good ball and worked his way into the Panthers starting lineup for 11 games last year post injury. He had a really decent 55% completion against and 69 rating against on 67 targets. He’s a good bet to start opposite Bradberry. He’s also many years younger than all of the players you noted. When the Panthers signed him, he was entering his 5th year in the NFL and 26-years-old. He was in a much different part of his career than Stewart. It’s no surprise he’s still a relevant NFL player and Stewart is, whatever Stewart is.

He's 29. McQuarters was 30, Grant was 31, Leon Hall was 32. All were hanging on for their last few years and Cockerill is probably in that category now.

And going back 2 years I wouldn't blame any new regime for letting any player from the 2017 roster walk. If anything they tried too hard to salvage guys like Apple/Flowers (though there weren't too many alternatives). It is the same revisionist history some have with Devon Kennard. They may have had some moments here and since, and may have even been nice depth additions this past offseason, but neither was or will ever be more than that.

There’s nothing revisionist about the truth — both players went on to be unspectacular starters on other unspectacular teams — while the Giants are still struggling to man those positions. If healthy Cockrell and Kennard would have been starters on the 2018 and 2019 Giants. Cockrell has a shot to be the 2020 starter.

I think Cockrell has more tread than any of the players you listed — because he got a late start and missed the year with his knee he’s only got 5 years of wear and tear on his body, and looked fully recovered from his knee last year.

and most wanted it dynamited a lot more than it was. New regimes rarely retain previous regime's depth players in any sport. They turn over rosters and that's exactly what was needed in the case of 2017-2018.

And many (myself included) bought into some level of Bettcher hype. Only with hindsight of Bettcher's Arizona transplants (and really every aspect of what he did) not working out was it a mistake to not retain marginal depth players who left via FA.

If they believed he was a slot corner only.

but right now he might be the most proven CB behind Bradberry. Ballantine has the physical gifts, but needs reps and teaching, stat. Small school kids have a bigger leap to make it in the NFL.

The stats don't tell everything -- but Cockrell played a lot of snaps the last 3/4 of the season, and the vast majority were outside (87%).

He had respectable production numbers (8 PD, 2 INTs) and pretty decent coverage numbers (55% completion against, 69 rating against).

He's not the future, but he's a good get this late in the process.

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NY Giants CB Ross Cockrell Highlights 2017-2019 - ( New Window )

didn't do a bad job here before. he's okay.

In comment 14947005 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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In comment 14946743 LBH15 said: Quote: In comment 14946667 Mike in NY said: Quote: In comment 14946644 LBH15 said: Quote: Agree he was one of the few bright spots that 2017 season and its not like the pass defense had too much talent. I believe he signed as a UFA for more money than the Giants were comfortable paying him. Guys like Jonathan Stewart were the priority back then I guess. I see that handles may change but that fixations stay the same....

Huh, what's bothering you now?

Let me ponder a guess, you defended the decision by DG to sign a washed-up Stewart?

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but right now he might be the most proven CB behind Bradberry. Ballantine has the physical gifts, but needs reps and teaching, stat. Small school kids have a bigger leap to make it in the NFL.

Cockrell went right to the top of the BBI Depth Chart at cornerback. Giants sound like they will have 3 new faces starting at CB when and if the season begins.