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Route 9 : 8/9/2020 4:52 am
Ok let us keep it light here. What are some ultimate "no-no's" in your kitchen that you press to your fellow eaters? Or you got pressed on you when eating at home growing up or a relative's house?

You know the drill, "you prefer instant mashed potatoes?!"

If you dare to answer the question wrong about how you liked your steak cooked. Holy shit the endless arguments over that.

I'm sure I'll hear from the Italian crowd.

"You don't like eggplant?! You'll love mine!"
Never understood people who salt their food  
UConn4523 : 8/9/2020 6:57 am : link
before tasting it.
You cannot leave the table  
section125 : 8/9/2020 7:41 am : link
until you eat everything on your plate!

UConn is right, yet I bet I do it nearly 50% of the time.

I ate  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 8:21 am : link
frozen corn dogs yesterday (after I cooked them) with my 12 year old (which I bought at the super market at the urging of my 12 year old).

They were delicious but of course we got side eye from my wife because corn dogs are not an approved food in our kitchen.

oh, and i put ketchup on them which for some on here might be the bigger crime. I don't care what condiments people put on their food, but personally i'm not a ketchup on hot dogs guy, but with the corn bread coating it just seemed like ketchup would make a solid addition. It did. they were delicious.
A few random additions  
PA Aggie : 8/9/2020 8:56 am : link
+1 on finishing your plate. I do have an issue with loading up your plate, then eating only half. A few bites left, no problem. Probably related to the 'there are kids in china starving' lectures from parents. Eat what you take, then take more if hungry.

Dad would throw a fit if you cut up your protein portion all at once. You had to slice ONE piece off, eat that, repeat.

My stepson, when eating a meal with two or more independent items (protein, vegetable, starch) eats all of one, then all of the other, etc. I find that strange.

My wife and I do not own a table ready salt/pepper shaker. (Besides wife's great grandmother's tiny crystal one with two holes in the top stuffed in a box somewhere...) So those who add salt, especially before tasting, would get a bit of an eye from us. (Probably a bit arrogant and presumptuous of us...)

My sister (a major foodie) constructs a forkfull like it is a piece of art. She takes a bit from each pile on the plate, uses the knife to help sculpt in terms of uniformity and size, then savors it. But she is phenomenal cook and hostess who has fed me well over the years, so I don't make fun of her like a brother should....

Never break the spaghetti  
PEEJ : 8/9/2020 9:07 am : link
before cooking

or use a knife and fork to cut and eat it
I am a diabetic, as is my brother, so we try to be concious  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/9/2020 9:24 am : link
of avoiding sugary and starchy items.

A rule my brother goes nuts about is Never serve two starches on one plate. This rule is commonly violated at mid-American diner type establishments where corn is classified as a vegetable rather than a starch, which is the rule we grew up with.

It makes him nuts and I simply avoid it by asking for a double veggie no starch approach to sides when eating out.

But my brother, funnily enough, can't take my approach because he's more firmly anti "double veggies" than he is obsessed about no double starch...

Plus he considers having a simple lettuce based salad as a "vegetable" side dish. Not so for me. A salad is just a salad and it does not, should not, and cannot replace the rule of eating a "green vegetable" portion with every dinner.
At breakfast of course the double starch rule doesn't apply.  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/9/2020 9:28 am : link
Not one white. Home fries or hash browns and toast are the standard sides and I'm all in favor, just gotta burn some carbs after the classic diner breakfast.

Hell, even triple carbs at breakfast is OK if one of them is scrapple. But I do draw the line at pancakes (or French toast or waffles) served with any potato or toast.

That's a criminal offense.
Not one whit!  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/9/2020 9:30 am : link
White got nothin' to do with it, although I didn't include grits in my breakfast starch list... Not on purpose. It was ommission by oversight.
If I don’t finish what’s on my plate  
RicFlair : 8/9/2020 10:11 am : link
I just have it for leftovers.
My own rule:  
RicFlair : 8/9/2020 10:11 am : link
If it doesn’t have meat in it, it’s a side dish.
RE: I ate  
Route 9 : 8/9/2020 10:40 am : link
In comment 14946390 pjcas18 said:
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frozen corn dogs yesterday (after I cooked them) with my 12 year old (which I bought at the super market at the urging of my 12 year old).

They were delicious but of course we got side eye from my wife because corn dogs are not an approved food in our kitchen.

oh, and i put ketchup on them which for some on here might be the bigger crime. I don't care what condiments people put on their food, but personally i'm not a ketchup on hot dogs guy, but with the corn bread coating it just seemed like ketchup would make a solid addition. It did. they were delicious.


Oh no - not the ketchup!
RE: A few random additions  
Route 9 : 8/9/2020 11:35 am : link
In comment 14946403 PA Aggie said:
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+1 on finishing your plate. I do have an issue with loading up your plate, then eating only half. A few bites left, no problem. Probably related to the 'there are kids in china starving' lectures from parents. Eat what you take, then take more if hungry.

Dad would throw a fit if you cut up your protein portion all at once. You had to slice ONE piece off, eat that, repeat.

My stepson, when eating a meal with two or more independent items (protein, vegetable, starch) eats all of one, then all of the other, etc. I find that strange.

My wife and I do not own a table ready salt/pepper shaker. (Besides wife's great grandmother's tiny crystal one with two holes in the top stuffed in a box somewhere...) So those who add salt, especially before tasting, would get a bit of an eye from us. (Probably a bit arrogant and presumptuous of us...)

My sister (a major foodie) constructs a forkfull like it is a piece of art. She takes a bit from each pile on the plate, uses the knife to help sculpt in terms of uniformity and size, then savors it. But she is phenomenal cook and hostess who has fed me well over the years, so I don't make fun of her like a brother should....


Proteins are essential
RE: A few random additions  
Gregorio : 8/9/2020 12:21 pm : link
In comment 14946403 PA Aggie said:
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Dad would throw a fit if you cut up your protein portion all at once. You had to slice ONE piece off, eat that, repeat.


This cracked me up! I don't know why but people have so many idiosyncrasies when it comes to dining. I mean, what differences does it make how another person slices their food?
I'm maniacal about packing  
gidiefor : Mod : 8/9/2020 12:25 pm : link
cold items separately from dry goods -- and soap and chemical products separate from both - also heavier things go to the bottom of the bag - crushables on top

Have to unpack the cold bag first -- especially the frozen stuff

I have a cold bag that goes with me to the market -- insulated and zips up to keep the cold in

This one is more of a 'Crime Of The Dining Room'  
smshmth8690 : 8/9/2020 1:16 pm : link
I had a woman send food back two weeks ago, because there was a long red hair in her potatoes. Had to throw everything on the plate out, and make new for her. I wouldn't normally have a problem with it, because shit happens, but the only person near the food with long red hair, was her.
RE: RE: A few random additions  
PA Aggie : 8/9/2020 1:30 pm : link
In comment 14946520 Gregorio said:
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In comment 14946403 PA Aggie said:


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Dad would throw a fit if you cut up your protein portion all at once. You had to slice ONE piece off, eat that, repeat.




This cracked me up! I don't know why but people have so many idiosyncrasies when it comes to dining. I mean, what differences does it make how another person slices their food?


My Dad's middle name could have been 'idiosyncrasy'. It would crash the BBI server to name them all. It's taken into my 50's for me to sort them out and learn what makes sense, and what is weird.
RE: I'm maniacal about packing  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/9/2020 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14946521 gidiefor said:
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cold items separately from dry goods -- and soap and chemical products separate from both - also heavier things go to the bottom of the bag - crushables on top

Have to unpack the cold bag first -- especially the frozen stuff

I have a cold bag that goes with me to the market -- insulated and zips up to keep the cold in

That’s mostly just common sense. Who wants crushed bread or melted ice cream?
The plate needs to be warmed...  
EricJ : 8/9/2020 3:41 pm : link
if warm or hot food is going to be eaten off of it.

Also, when I see someone making eggs on a pan that has not been brought up to temp yet... I lose my shit
I  
mitch300 : 8/9/2020 4:21 pm : link
Rinse off spaghetti before adding sauce. I know its a no-no. However, I tried not rinsing and find the spaghetti gummy.
RE: I  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/9/2020 4:32 pm : link
In comment 14946717 mitch300 said:
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Rinse off spaghetti before adding sauce. I know its a no-no. However, I tried not rinsing and find the spaghetti gummy.

If your pasta is gummy you’re likely overcooking it.
RE: I  
UConn4523 : 8/9/2020 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14946717 mitch300 said:
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Rinse off spaghetti before adding sauce. I know its a no-no. However, I tried not rinsing and find the spaghetti gummy.


That usually means you cooked it too long.

I drain and add a bit of sauce to it and mix well to prevent sticking. Then I serve and usually let everyone help themselves with how much more sauce they want. I hate it drowning in sauce, for example so I won’t assume what everyone else likes.
Interesting  
mitch300 : 8/9/2020 4:43 pm : link
Because I like mine el dente. In fact my wife sometimes complains that it’s undercooked. Any other reason why?
Cleaning up as you cook is a must  
Route 9 : 8/9/2020 4:46 pm : link
"I cooked so you do the clean up" is frowned upon.

I think my mom threw a vitamin bottle at my dad's head over this in the 90s.
RE: I  
mattlawson : 8/9/2020 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14946717 mitch300 said:
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Rinse off spaghetti before adding sauce. I know its a no-no. However, I tried not rinsing and find the spaghetti gummy.



or if you want add some EVOO And salt/pepper
I cannot recall  
bc4life : 8/9/2020 5:03 pm : link
ever being told that I had to eat everything on my plate. Unless I became incapacitated mid-meal, that was a given.
Here  
Dirt1 : 8/9/2020 5:12 pm : link
is one.
You're overcooking your pasta  
oghwga : 8/9/2020 6:17 pm : link
Drain briefly and and save some of that great starchy pasta water. Toss the pasta in the sauce and add some pasta water. It actually thickens the sauce and helps it stick to the spaghetti. If you add oil to the pasta your sauce won't stick.

For good cacio di pepe cook the pasta in just enough water to cover. Save that starchy water and toss the pasta with that and some park and some fresh ground black pepper. Creamy and delicious.
RE: This one is more of a 'Crime Of The Dining Room'  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/9/2020 6:27 pm : link
In comment 14946553 smshmth8690 said:
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I had a woman send food back two weeks ago, because there was a long red hair in her potatoes. Had to throw everything on the plate out, and make new for her. I wouldn't normally have a problem with it, because shit happens, but the only person near the food with long red hair, was her.


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤬
On the flip side Drew, better that it was a long red hair...  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/9/2020 6:29 pm : link
than a short curly one!
RE: Interesting  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/9/2020 6:33 pm : link
In comment 14946740 mitch300 said:
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Because I like mine el dente. In fact my wife sometimes complains that it’s undercooked. Any other reason why?


Yes another reason is that you are not using a large enough ratio of water to pasta.

A pound of pasta requires at least ten times it's weight (5 quarts) of boiling water.
RE: I'm maniacal about packing  
section125 : 8/9/2020 6:37 pm : link
In comment 14946521 gidiefor said:
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cold items separately from dry goods -- and soap and chemical products separate from both - also heavier things go to the bottom of the bag - crushables on top

Have to unpack the cold bag first -- especially the frozen stuff

I have a cold bag that goes with me to the market -- insulated and zips up to keep the cold in


I agree totally...
RE: Cleaning up as you cook is a must  
section125 : 8/9/2020 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14946742 Route 9 said:
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"I cooked so you do the clean up" is frowned upon.

I think my mom threw a vitamin bottle at my dad's head over this in the 90s.


I will always clean up as I go. My wife will pile up the sink. I jump her butt every time she does it. I most times have all the prep utensils(and pots/bowls) done before the food is cooked.
A few manners things come to mind  
sb from NYT Forum : 8/9/2020 6:48 pm : link
Elbows off the table!

Chew and swallow before taking another bite!

Don’t chew with your mouth open!

Fork in your right hand, except when cutting. Then it’s knife in right hand, fork in left. And when you are ready to put food into your mouth, fork back in your right hand. (Note, it doesn’t matter that Europeans don’t do this, they are savages).
RE: A few manners things come to mind  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/9/2020 7:00 pm : link
In comment 14946788 sb from NYT Forum said:
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Elbows off the table!

Chew and swallow before taking another bite!

Don’t chew with your mouth open!

Fork in your right hand, except when cutting. Then it’s knife in right hand, fork in left. And when you are ready to put food into your mouth, fork back in your right hand. (Note, it doesn’t matter that Europeans don’t do this, they are savages).


If you can't use a steak knife in your left hand, you're the savage.
Switching hands with knives and forks makes zero sense to me.
Speaking of forks and knives  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 7:05 pm : link
and kitchen crimes after watching season 1 of Vikings on Netflix I started a habit of eating meat only with a knife and not cutting it into bite sized pieces. I basically just stab the meat with the knife and eat off the knife.

I feel like we should pattern more things (habits, customs, etiquette, etc.) in our lives after Vikings and less after the refined British.

My wife hates it, but my kids love it and do it too sometimes.
RE: RE: A few manners things come to mind  
section125 : 8/9/2020 7:06 pm : link
In comment 14946794 BlueLou'sBack said:
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In comment 14946788 sb from NYT Forum said:


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Elbows off the table!

Chew and swallow before taking another bite!

Don’t chew with your mouth open!

Fork in your right hand, except when cutting. Then it’s knife in right hand, fork in left. And when you are ready to put food into your mouth, fork back in your right hand. (Note, it doesn’t matter that Europeans don’t do this, they are savages).



If you can't use a steak knife in your left hand, you're the savage.
Switching hands with knives and forks makes zero sense to me.


It does if you want to keep your fingers attached to your hand......
My biggest bugaboo, and it annoys me no end,  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/9/2020 7:53 pm : link
is when a restaurant takes a classic dish that's well defined as to what it is and somehow bastardized it.

The simplest basic examples of this are "chicken Alfredo" or "chicken Caesar salad". Chicken has no business being in either Alfredo sauce or Caesar salad, IMO.

There's probably 100s of examples of this misuse of classical nomenclature.
RE: Cleaning up as you cook is a must  
djm : 8/9/2020 8:45 pm : link
In comment 14946742 Route 9 said:
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"I cooked so you do the clean up" is frowned upon.

I think my mom threw a vitamin bottle at my dad's head over this in the 90s.


Couldn’t agree more. Definitely clean as you go. I want to lose my shit with how trashed the kitchen can get it i am not the one controlling everything.
RE: My biggest bugaboo, and it annoys me no end,  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2020 8:47 pm : link
In comment 14946819 BlueLou'sBack said:
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is when a restaurant takes a classic dish that's well defined as to what it is and somehow bastardized it.

The simplest basic examples of this are "chicken Alfredo" or "chicken Caesar salad". Chicken has no business being in either Alfredo sauce or Caesar salad, IMO.

There's probably 100s of examples of this misuse of classical nomenclature.


I'm going to have to kind of disagree with you on this one. Grilled chicken is a perfect complement to a Caesar salad and adds protein making a salad into a meal. so it's dual purpose.

Chicken alfredo though? no bueno.
I  
mitch300 : 8/9/2020 8:48 pm : link
Used a lot of advice here. Used more water, added salt. I also added the spaghetti to the sauce. It came out great. Thanks to all!
Pjacs -  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/9/2020 10:43 pm : link
I agree the "chicken Alfredo" is worse, and I'm not about to argue with a guy who eats the chicken doled over his chicken Caesar with only a steak knife or stilletto or whatever you use sans fork...


😉
RE: This one is more of a 'Crime Of The Dining Room'  
Matt M. : 8/10/2020 12:01 am : link
In comment 14946553 smshmth8690 said:
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I had a woman send food back two weeks ago, because there was a long red hair in her potatoes. Had to throw everything on the plate out, and make new for her. I wouldn't normally have a problem with it, because shit happens, but the only person near the food with long red hair, was her.
The customer isn't always right. I know it's touchy, especially with a full dining room, but I would love for you to have called her on it.
RE: RE: A few manners things come to mind  
sb from NYT Forum : 8/10/2020 12:38 am : link
In comment 14946794 BlueLou'sBack said:
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In comment 14946788 sb from NYT Forum said:


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Elbows off the table!

Chew and swallow before taking another bite!

Don’t chew with your mouth open!

Fork in your right hand, except when cutting. Then it’s knife in right hand, fork in left. And when you are ready to put food into your mouth, fork back in your right hand. (Note, it doesn’t matter that Europeans don’t do this, they are savages).



If you can't use a steak knife in your left hand, you're the savage.
Switching hands with knives and forks makes zero sense to me.


LoL, yeah, it's completely absurd! But God damn if it wasn't beaten into my head every night of my childhood. I didn't find out until my 20s that only Americans have that "rule" for manners and all of Europe and the UK eat the more efficient way.

Still, I've been brainwashed so cutting with your left hand looks so weird to me.
RE: RE: This one is more of a 'Crime Of The Dining Room'  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/10/2020 7:49 am : link
In comment 14946927 Matt M. said:
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In comment 14946553 smshmth8690 said:


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I had a woman send food back two weeks ago, because there was a long red hair in her potatoes. Had to throw everything on the plate out, and make new for her. I wouldn't normally have a problem with it, because shit happens, but the only person near the food with long red hair, was her.

The customer isn't always right. I know it's touchy, especially with a full dining room, but I would love for you to have called her on it.


Drew did exactly the right thing by tossing the dish and making it all anew.

Because the point ISN'T IF THE CUDTOMER IS "RIGHT" OR NOT!

The point is to make the customer happy... It might be a subtle point but I think not.

It was extremely rare for us, when I was cheffing, to ever have a dish returned to the kitchen. For that matter and pardon the brag but when I had the opportunity I loved to look at the plates coming back to the dishwasher because better than 90% of them were wiped clean. I liked to see that folks used the home made bread we gave them to sop up every last drop of sauce...

The few times (when at Riera's where our wait staff was more friendly than professional) a plate was returned I had to train the waiters NOT to give me the four part harmony story of why the customer was returning the dish. Because that's useless information to a busy kitchen. What I needed and told the wait staff to find out was - not why the dish was rejected, but rather what would the customer now like, what now would make them happy?

Because a restaurant doesn't really serve food, they serve happiness.
Having posted the above reflection on the restaurant  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/10/2020 7:59 am : link
biz, let me state another pet peeve. Any waiter or restaurant staff who argues with me, or even simply tries to explain, when I reject a dish for a stated reason - "I asked my Ahi tuna be prepared medium rare, and this is overcooked" - "oh sir it's dark out here in the dining area, under the kitchen lights your tuna does indeed look medium rare, or medium."

That's not the point, even if they're right, which in my case they're not.

There really aren't supposed to be various interpretations of what medium rare is.

(Unless you're in France, and medium rare is bloody red uncooked steak at its center, and you need to learn to ask for food prepared à pointe!)
How about hovering over the cook....  
BillKo : 8/10/2020 10:44 am : link
....when you know zero about cooking. LOL

I tend to hover :)
I really..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/10/2020 10:50 am : link
like that take:

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Because a restaurant doesn't really serve food, they serve happiness.


and I think the vast majority of diners agree. There are a few bad apples that ruin it for everyone because they are at dinner to be catered on and treat staff like shit.

As for "crimes", I know way too many people who have a phobia about foods touching one another.
RE: You're overcooking your pasta  
chick310 : 8/10/2020 10:58 am : link
In comment 14946774 oghwga said:
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Drain briefly and and save some of that great starchy pasta water. Toss the pasta in the sauce and add some pasta water. It actually thickens the sauce and helps it stick to the spaghetti. If you add oil to the pasta your sauce won't stick.

For good cacio di pepe cook the pasta in just enough water to cover. Save that starchy water and toss the pasta with that and some park and some fresh ground black pepper. Creamy and delicious.


This is on the money.
brumotactillophobia  
Big Al : 8/10/2020 11:08 am : link
“Don’t like it when different foods touch each other on your plate? You could have brumotactillophobia! This phobia is believed to be a mild form of an obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD). You’d probably like to enjoy the flavours separately and feel that the plate looks cleaner that way. Well, of course.“

I have been criticized for not caring how much stuff mixes on a plate but I guess I have not been maximizing individual flavors.
Cook the eggs LAST...  
x meadowlander : 8/10/2020 12:31 pm : link
...if you're making breakfast, EVERYTHING should be done before an egg hits the heat. Tables set, drinks out. If you're occupied with anything else, you can overcook them, if the table isn't set yet, they'll be cold before you get to eat them. I hate cold eggs.

Also, on topic - when making fried eggs, ALWAYS COOL THE FRYING PAN between or you'll burn them. Cold water, both sides of the pan before cooking the next one.

What else? Steak sauce is a crime. My kids love it.

NEVER leave a Barbeque unattended.




SPOT Restaraunt, 1998...  
x meadowlander : 8/10/2020 1:06 pm : link
...customer, livid over slow service during a rush (he was dramatically overreacting, making a scene) with 2 tour busses in the parking lot - guy was going off on me. My boss, the owner, old Greek guy THREW HIM OUT for making a scene.

"What happened to 'the customer is always right?' the guy asked as headed to the door.

"I don't need your business, so you are NOT my customer and you are NOT right! GET OUT! and don't come back!"
Never leave bacon cooking unattended in a pan on a stovetop  
SomeFan : 8/10/2020 1:23 pm : link
If you do, note that when you no longer hear the sizzle, that means there is a four foot high open flame that looks like a tube as wide as the pan that will be scorching your 10 foot ceiling.
My number 1 rules is to clean up pots/pans/cutting boards, etc.  
SomeFan : 8/10/2020 1:25 pm : link
as you prepare your meal. It makes things much easier.
RE: Cook the eggs LAST...  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/10/2020 1:59 pm : link
In comment 14947103 x meadowlander said:
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Also, on topic - when making fried eggs, ALWAYS COOL THE FRYING PAN between or you'll burn them. Cold water, both sides of the pan before cooking the next one.


Bad idea. Running water over a hot pan = warped pan.
First noticed the pan/water trick at Harry's Corner in the 80's...  
x meadowlander : 8/10/2020 2:39 pm : link
...tiny restaurant that specialized in egg sandwiches - their 2 cooks had a little sink right next to the stove. After each order, they'd wash the pan, move on to the next.

Took me a while to realize it wasn't about cleaning the pan, but about cooling it so the next egg wouldn't overcook.

I've used that trick for DECADES, never 'warped' a pan.

Try it - if you make fried eggs one after the other, only the first one will come out right if you don't cool the pan down.


Anyway, RIP Harry's. My favorite little hole in the wall anywhere. Freaking OUTSTANDING egg sandwiches on Foschini Bakery hard rolls.
I don't give a shit about okd ideas about manners  
Sneakers O'toole : 8/10/2020 2:50 pm : link
But don't let me hear you chew!
"NEVER leave a Barbeque unattended."  
djm : 8/10/2020 3:15 pm : link
I did that once.


ONCE.
As noted, you have to clean things as you cook  
LBH15 : 8/10/2020 5:42 pm : link
without question. Source of frustration in my house too.

Also, we tell kids that if you set the table then you are free of doing the dishes, or vice-versa. Everybody kind of clears in our home.
Xmeadowlander...  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/10/2020 6:11 pm : link
Was your Greek owner at Spot in 1998 related to Pop's Riera at Riera's Restaurant from 1982-1989 or so?

Because this story is almost a word for word re-enaction of a scene at Riera's I witnessed.

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What happened to 'the customer is always right?' the guy asked as headed to the door.

"I don't need your business, so you are NOT my customer and you are NOT right! GET OUT! and don't come back!"


These customers were thrown out mid-meal by Pops, because instead of reeling their two toddlers in and seating them at their own table when politely asked to do so, they claimed special rights for their kids to terrorize every table in the restaurant (obviously begging for the attention their two yuppie self absorbed parents couldn't bother to give them.)

Instead of acquiescing to the "pleas keep your children seated at YOUR table" request by Pops, they started angrily responding about their kids' rights to roam freely about the dining room, and the kicker was the dad stating "I'm a lawyer, and my wife is a doctor..."

We (the wait staff) could barely keep ourselves from adding "and we're the king and queen of bloody France, but your kids gotta sit the fuck down with YOU."

ANYWAY Pops read them the "you're not my customer, I don't need your business, get the hell out of my restaurant" act part I.
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