NFT: Yankees at Rays GDT 8/9 1:10PM

In comment 14946663 section125 said:

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about the wins. He is stretching pitchers out. How many games now has he left a pitcher in too long and it cost the team.

C'mon man, you can't really believe he doesn't give a shit about wins. Sure, maybe he is trying to stretch some guys out ( he sure didn't the other day when Tanaka was dealing) but not at the expense of wins.

I think it's more likely he thought Pax was dealing and thought he'd be ok after the 2run HR. He was wrong obviously but no way do I think his priority was stretching Pax out over getting this win.

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In comment 14946679 Jints in Carolina said:

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Worse. Another hitless 9th will do it.

In comment 14946678 Eman11 said:

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In comment 14946663 section125 said: Quote: about the wins. He is stretching pitchers out. How many games now has he left a pitcher in too long and it cost the team. C'mon man, you can't really believe he doesn't give a shit about wins. Sure, maybe he is trying to stretch some guys out ( he sure didn't the other day when Tanaka was dealing) but not at the expense of wins. I think it's more likely he thought Pax was dealing and thought he'd be ok after the 2run HR. He was wrong obviously but no way do I think his priority was stretching Pax out over getting this win.

I absolutely do. He has left pitchers out there well past their expiration limit. He did it with Cole, King in this series alone (now Paxton).
He is looking to stretch these guys out not worried about the win

by a hair

Fucking ump

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That has to be overturned.

Because it’s the Trop, I figured we’d get screwed.

by D.J. though, got the call.

Call reversed! Still a tie.

Please?

In comment 14946689 bceagle05 said:

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Because it’s the Trop, I figured we’d get screwed.

the call comes from NY

In comment 14946695 Jints in Carolina said:

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the call comes from NY

I know, I just meant that we’re a bit cursed in that garbage building.

funky motion pitchers do the Rays have?

I am hoping we get there.

9th.

In comment 14946690 Carson53 said:

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by D.J. though, got the call.

That should have been a routine DP. Urshela got that ball out fast. DJ does seem a bit slow.

get a split. Tough luck for Paxton today.

In comment 14946682 section125 said:

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In comment 14946678 Eman11 said: Quote: In comment 14946663 section125 said: Quote: about the wins. He is stretching pitchers out. How many games now has he left a pitcher in too long and it cost the team. C'mon man, you can't really believe he doesn't give a shit about wins. Sure, maybe he is trying to stretch some guys out ( he sure didn't the other day when Tanaka was dealing) but not at the expense of wins. I think it's more likely he thought Pax was dealing and thought he'd be ok after the 2run HR. He was wrong obviously but no way do I think his priority was stretching Pax out over getting this win. I absolutely do. He has left pitchers out there well past their expiration limit. He did it with Cole, King in this series alone (now Paxton). He is looking to stretch these guys out not worried about the win

You don't think Cole was already stretched out before he gave up the HR yesterday? He was already there. How come he didn't stretch Tanaka out the last time around if stretching them out is his priority?

Leaving guys in too long just means he screwed up in doing so, not necessarily because he's forgoing wins in favor of stretching guys out.

Sanchez is a true masterpiece of a joke


How anyone thinks he is still quality is beyond me

In comment 14946707 Eman11 said:

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I You don't think Cole was already stretched out before he gave up the HR yesterday? He was already there. How come he didn't stretch Tanaka out the last time around if stretching them out is his priority? Leaving guys in too long just means he screwed up in doing so, not necessarily because he's forgoing wins in favor of stretching guys out.

No. Cole had about 85 pitches previous time,IIRC. Tanaka was only about 60 pitches - remember he had a late start. King I'm not sure had 50.

Cole got tagged in his previous start late also.

this game in the rear

How's that "stretching the pitchers" idea working for them?

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I was going to say this guy gets his bat on the ball, and
he did.

Should've won this one.

another pitiful performance.

Freakin Sanchez takes Britton's best pitch out of his hand....

Hallelujah. Back to business on Tuesday.

at all.

In comment 14946723 Carson53 said:

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at all.

Because he couldn't throw his sinker...

In comment 14946721 section125 said:

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another pitiful performance. Freakin Sanchez takes Britton's best pitch out of his hand....

I agree and I am just going to keep my mouth shut.

In comment 14946710 section125 said:

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In comment 14946707 Eman11 said: Quote: I You don't think Cole was already stretched out before he gave up the HR yesterday? He was already there. How come he didn't stretch Tanaka out the last time around if stretching them out is his priority? Leaving guys in too long just means he screwed up in doing so, not necessarily because he's forgoing wins in favor of stretching guys out. No. Cole had about 85 pitches previous time,IIRC. Tanaka was only about 60 pitches - remember he had a late start. King I'm not sure had 50. Cole got tagged in his previous start late also.

My point on Cole was he was already stretched out yesterday. He was at what, like 95 pitches if not more when he have up the dinger.

I think it's much more likely Boone felt he could get through the inning and wanted to get him the win.

As for Tanaka, even with the late start, he was dealing his late time out and not really that many more pitches than his previous one. I believe it was only 5-8 more. If he wanted to stretch him out he would've let him go at least another 10-15 from his previous start.

We can go round and round on this as we clearly see it differently and I'm a bit surprised to see your take on this.

Tampa coach just has the Yankees number.. Dude knows how to use his pitchers.. smh.

and we continue to underperform in this shitbag of a stadium.

especially in a season like this one where everything is abnormal. It’s a shorty loss, that’s all I got.

Correa of course instigates and ducks behind three guys when things escalate.

who was instigating. What a shit franchise.

In comment 14946727 Eman11 said:

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We can go round and round on this as we clearly see it differently and I'm a bit surprised to see your take on this.

I just cannot see any other reason for leaving Cole, King and Paxton in the game up to and beyond the point of failure. Remember he likes to let pitchers work themselves out of trouble so they see how to do it(yet Cole and Paxton should know).
Boone does "crazy" stuff. He is a good manager, not nearly as good as Cash, but has a non-conventional managing style. But I was very "disappointed"(for lack of a better word) with how he managed this weekend.

Reading how great they are, does not look like a great team to me, they are not situational hitters, they strike out too much, the late 90's team was great, Jeter, Posada, Knoblach, O'Niell, Bernie, Tino was the heart, George came back added Matsui, who I loved, Giambi, Arod, and Sheffield and we have won 1 since, but we continue to put out power teams who strike out too much and expect it to change, get high on base guys who work the count and hit for a good average, guys who make contact, but why do what already worked. We have a few of those players, we need a few more, 2 useless players are Sanchez and Stanton, Sanchez stinks altogether, Urshella, Tauchman, and LeMahieu. There is three, and they can play thier position, we miss you Stick and Buck.

In comment 14946801 PaulN said:

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Reading how great they are, does not look like a great team to me, they are not situational hitters, they strike out too much, the late 90's team was great, Jeter, Posada, Knoblach, O'Niell, Bernie, Tino was the heart, George came back added Matsui, who I loved, Giambi, Arod, and Sheffield and we have won 1 since, but we continue to put out power teams who strike out too much and expect it to change, get high on base guys who work the count and hit for a good average, guys who make contact, but why do what already worked. We have a few of those players, we need a few more, 2 useless players are Sanchez and Stanton, Sanchez stinks altogether, Urshella, Tauchman, and LeMahieu. There is three, and they can play thier position, we miss you Stick and Buck.

Unfortunately this rings true as a bell. Indeed even the team's small ball is poor. The pitching is what it is and does not seem to be he root of the problem. Have no idea what to do about it. One can only hope Cashman and Boone can figure something out to at least start to change it.

In comment 14946796 section125 said:

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In comment 14946727 Eman11 said: Quote: We can go round and round on this as we clearly see it differently and I'm a bit surprised to see your take on this. I just cannot see any other reason for leaving Cole, King and Paxton in the game up to and beyond the point of failure. Remember he likes to let pitchers work themselves out of trouble so they see how to do it(yet Cole and Paxton should know). Boone does "crazy" stuff. He is a good manager, not nearly as good as Cash, but has a non-conventional managing style. But I was very "disappointed"(for lack of a better word) with how he managed this weekend.

Well we agree on a lot of that there, just not the part from earlier about not caring about wins over stretching guys out.

I didn't see the game King pitched so I can't really comment on that one but I think the reasons he kept Cole and Pax in are pretty simple and nothing to do with stretching them out.

Cole was one out away from qualifying for the win and I don't think he wanted to pull his new big money Ace in that spot. Nothing to do with getting more pitches in, IMO, just him trying to show Cole respect, that he had confidence in him and wanted to reward him with getting a win.

As for Pax, similar in that he felt he was cruising and wanted to show his vet the same kind of respect, thinking he could overcome the 2 run HR. I think had Pax not been so dominating he would've pulled him after the first guy got on, and certainly after the 2 run HR. Boone was fooled on that one and it ended up costing them the game.

To be honest, as well as Pax was dealing I thought he'd get the lefty out, and leave leading 3-2. I definitely didn't see the tying HR coming there so I can't kill Boone too much because I still felt Pax had good enough stuff to get another out at least.

good pitching. But our situation hitting is atrocious, how do you expect to win in the post-season when you score like 90% of your runs off HR's?

Aaron Boone or Joe Girardi?

In comment 14946890 Jim in Hoboken said:

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good pitching. But our situation hitting is atrocious, how do you expect to win in the post-season when you score like 90% of your runs off HR's?

Because it's been studied and shown that offenses that score higher % of runs via HR do better in post-season than the opposite.

What seems more likely? Getting a long sustained rally against a pitcher like Verlander or getting a guy or two on and then hitting a mistake for a bomb? It's the latter.

Even in a crazy sprint type season like this its still baseball. They play evevry day and there are ups and downs. We had 4 bad days where we lost 4 tough 1 run games. This team is really good and they'll be fine. Chappy coming back will help lengthen the pen. Tanaka and Pax looked great for 5 or 6 innings this weekend and that is really encouraging. Tampa is a really good team and frankly 1-13 they're pitching staff is probably a little better than ours.

"Aww theses guys aren't like the late 90's Yanks" No shit shirlock that was an all time fucking dynasty! This team has competed in the playoffs for years. Maybe came up a bit short because of starting pitching but getting Cole may help that. This team will be fine but this season will be crazy and the playoff format really doesn't reward teams for doing well so we'll see how it plays out.

In comment 14946955 M.S. said:

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Aaron Boone or Joe Girardi?

I think Joe, and he knew how to use his pen better as well. Boone is doing ok with that but Joe was/is about as good as there is in the game at it.

In comment 14946758 prdave73 said:

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Tampa coach just has the Yankees number.. Dude knows how to use his pitchers.. smh.

Oh fuck us, Randal's back?? Let me guess, Joey Cora has Boone's number too?

Wake me in October please...