James Paxton vs. Charlie Morton
NYY
DJ LeMahieu (R) 2B
Aaron Judge (R) RF
Aaron Hicks (S) CF
Luke Voit (R) 1B
Gleyber Torres (R) SS
Mike Ford (L) DH
Gio Urshela (R) 3B
Gary Sanchez (R) C
Brett Gardner (L) LF
TB
Yandy Diaz (R) 3B
Austin Meadows (L) LF
Jose Martinez (R) DH
Hunter Renfroe (R) RF
Mike Brosseau (R) 1B
Brandon Lowe (L) 2B
Manuel Margot (R) CF
Willy Adames (R) SS
Mike Zunino (R) C
I think he's a legit lefty slugger.
sorry you had to delete your thread LOL
we won 103 games without him last year....i don't care if he plays or not.
Agree. He's shown me nothing. I am surprised when he does anything positive.
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AGAIN, unbelievable with this guy.
we won 103 games without him last year....i don't care if he plays or not.
They are paying him an awful lot of money not to play,
and have to do it for six more years...so I care about that. He screws up things they could do with payroll!
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is not right
Agree. He's shown me nothing. I am surprised when he does anything positive.
Really glad we signed him for that 6 year extension. In all honesty he's not a bad player just don't know what warranted signing him to such a long term deal 🤷♂️
This
I think he's a legit lefty slugger.
Over/under on Paxton's 1st inning 2?
No improvement yet.
You see it with Diaz, and I've seen other players do it too
You see it with Diaz, and I've seen other players do it too
makes zero sense
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is not right
Agree. He's shown me nothing. I am surprised when he does anything positive.
Really glad we signed him for that 6 year extension. In all honesty he's not a bad player just don't know what warranted signing him to such a long term deal 🤷♂️
Yeah the years suck but the salary isn't prohibitive.
You see it with Diaz, and I've seen other players do it too
Covering the mouth against spittle, coughs and talking more important to prevent spreading than the nose.
velo is still down and his mechanics apparently are off. Not sure what we can take away from that.
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is not right
Agree. He's shown me nothing. I am surprised when he does anything positive.
Really glad we signed him for that 6 year extension. In all honesty he's not a bad player just don't know what warranted signing him to such a long term deal 🤷♂️
Yeah the years suck but the salary isn't prohibitive.
After hitting 27 homers a couple years back, he is too
pull happy now. At least he draws his share of walks,
and is good out in CF. I didn't understand a 7 year deal
for an injury prone player though?
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are going to wear a mask, why not cover their nose?
You see it with Diaz, and I've seen other players do it too
Covering the mouth against spittle, coughs and talking more important to prevent spreading than the nose.
These players are spitting all over the place, sunflower seeds. It's not more important to covert the nose?
Maybe you should mention that to Dr. Fauci.
He's got a ton of value.
He's got a ton of value.
Not saying he doesn't guy gets hurt way too much and was a 7 year deal really necessary?
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Of that DP. Very. Paxton looks OK, doesn't he?
velo is still down and his mechanics apparently are off. Not sure what we can take away from that.
Down a little , but his last pitch that inning was 93. Not that bad.
Knock on wood....
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Of that DP. Very. Paxton looks OK, doesn't he?
velo is still down and his mechanics apparently are off. Not sure what we can take away from that.
Down a little , but his last pitch that inning was 93. Not that bad.
It actually is down a ton. He's an upper 90s fb pitcher.
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And he sees a ton of pitches. And he's a switch hitter.
He's got a ton of value.
Not saying he doesn't guy gets hurt way too much and was a 7 year deal really necessary?
That's a team friend deal. I don't mind making him a building block. Who else would play center?
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And he sees a ton of pitches. And he's a switch hitter.
He's got a ton of value.
Not saying he doesn't guy gets hurt way too much and was a 7 year deal really necessary?
That's a team friend deal. I don't mind making him a building block. Who else would play center?
Thats fine in the short team by the end of that contract you think he's going to be roaming center field when he's 34 or 35?
Nothing major. They saw something from the dugout.
I missed that too. Seemed quick.
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what happened?
Nothing major. They saw something from the dugout.
Uncomfortable-looking out there and poor control.
Cheap, not phony. He was clipped. And West is doing a much better job than the other guys in this crew..couple close ones, but seems more consistent.
Well, he is now. Very weak at bat.
The NL East standings were very shocking to me.
Yes he is.
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The NL East standings were very shocking to me.
O's hanging in there in second -- rare air for them.
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And he sees a ton of pitches. And he's a switch hitter.
He's got a ton of value.
Not saying he doesn't guy gets hurt way too much and was a 7 year deal really necessary?
That's a team friend deal. I don't mind making him a building block. Who else would play center?
Thats fine in the short team by the end of that contract you think he's going to be roaming center field when he's 34 or 35?
Maybe not but by that time 10 mil a year will seem like he's making peanuts.
It's a team friendly deal. One they're hoping pays off big early and if not, it's not going to hurt them late.
Meanwhile Ford had another bad AB..
Someone is getting shit canned
Meanwhile Ford had another bad AB..
I complimented him too soon!
good call
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answer to trivia question.
good call
I was wrong, thought they meant with the Rays.Oops.
my dad just said the same thing
C'mon man, you can't really believe he doesn't give a shit about wins. Sure, maybe he is trying to stretch some guys out ( he sure didn't the other day when Tanaka was dealing) but not at the expense of wins.
I think it's more likely he thought Pax was dealing and thought he'd be ok after the 2run HR. He was wrong obviously but no way do I think his priority was stretching Pax out over getting this win.
Worse. Another hitless 9th will do it.
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about the wins. He is stretching pitchers out. How many games now has he left a pitcher in too long and it cost the team.
C'mon man, you can't really believe he doesn't give a shit about wins. Sure, maybe he is trying to stretch some guys out ( he sure didn't the other day when Tanaka was dealing) but not at the expense of wins.
I think it's more likely he thought Pax was dealing and thought he'd be ok after the 2run HR. He was wrong obviously but no way do I think his priority was stretching Pax out over getting this win.
I absolutely do. He has left pitchers out there well past their expiration limit. He did it with Cole, King in this series alone (now Paxton).
He is looking to stretch these guys out not worried about the win
the call comes from NY
I know, I just meant that we’re a bit cursed in that garbage building.
That should have been a routine DP. Urshela got that ball out fast. DJ does seem a bit slow.
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about the wins. He is stretching pitchers out. How many games now has he left a pitcher in too long and it cost the team.
C'mon man, you can't really believe he doesn't give a shit about wins. Sure, maybe he is trying to stretch some guys out ( he sure didn't the other day when Tanaka was dealing) but not at the expense of wins.
I think it's more likely he thought Pax was dealing and thought he'd be ok after the 2run HR. He was wrong obviously but no way do I think his priority was stretching Pax out over getting this win.
I absolutely do. He has left pitchers out there well past their expiration limit. He did it with Cole, King in this series alone (now Paxton).
He is looking to stretch these guys out not worried about the win
You don't think Cole was already stretched out before he gave up the HR yesterday? He was already there. How come he didn't stretch Tanaka out the last time around if stretching them out is his priority?
Leaving guys in too long just means he screwed up in doing so, not necessarily because he's forgoing wins in favor of stretching guys out.
How anyone thinks he is still quality is beyond me
You don't think Cole was already stretched out before he gave up the HR yesterday? He was already there. How come he didn't stretch Tanaka out the last time around if stretching them out is his priority?
Leaving guys in too long just means he screwed up in doing so, not necessarily because he's forgoing wins in favor of stretching guys out.
No. Cole had about 85 pitches previous time,IIRC. Tanaka was only about 60 pitches - remember he had a late start. King I'm not sure had 50.
Cole got tagged in his previous start late also.
he did.
Freakin Sanchez takes Britton's best pitch out of his hand....
Because he couldn't throw his sinker...
Freakin Sanchez takes Britton's best pitch out of his hand....
I agree and I am just going to keep my mouth shut.
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You don't think Cole was already stretched out before he gave up the HR yesterday? He was already there. How come he didn't stretch Tanaka out the last time around if stretching them out is his priority?
Leaving guys in too long just means he screwed up in doing so, not necessarily because he's forgoing wins in favor of stretching guys out.
No. Cole had about 85 pitches previous time,IIRC. Tanaka was only about 60 pitches - remember he had a late start. King I'm not sure had 50.
Cole got tagged in his previous start late also.
My point on Cole was he was already stretched out yesterday. He was at what, like 95 pitches if not more when he have up the dinger.
I think it's much more likely Boone felt he could get through the inning and wanted to get him the win.
As for Tanaka, even with the late start, he was dealing his late time out and not really that many more pitches than his previous one. I believe it was only 5-8 more. If he wanted to stretch him out he would've let him go at least another 10-15 from his previous start.
We can go round and round on this as we clearly see it differently and I'm a bit surprised to see your take on this.
We can go round and round on this as we clearly see it differently and I'm a bit surprised to see your take on this.
I just cannot see any other reason for leaving Cole, King and Paxton in the game up to and beyond the point of failure. Remember he likes to let pitchers work themselves out of trouble so they see how to do it(yet Cole and Paxton should know).
Boone does "crazy" stuff. He is a good manager, not nearly as good as Cash, but has a non-conventional managing style. But I was very "disappointed"(for lack of a better word) with how he managed this weekend.
Unfortunately this rings true as a bell. Indeed even the team's small ball is poor. The pitching is what it is and does not seem to be he root of the problem. Have no idea what to do about it. One can only hope Cashman and Boone can figure something out to at least start to change it.
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We can go round and round on this as we clearly see it differently and I'm a bit surprised to see your take on this.
I just cannot see any other reason for leaving Cole, King and Paxton in the game up to and beyond the point of failure. Remember he likes to let pitchers work themselves out of trouble so they see how to do it(yet Cole and Paxton should know).
Boone does "crazy" stuff. He is a good manager, not nearly as good as Cash, but has a non-conventional managing style. But I was very "disappointed"(for lack of a better word) with how he managed this weekend.
Well we agree on a lot of that there, just not the part from earlier about not caring about wins over stretching guys out.
I didn't see the game King pitched so I can't really comment on that one but I think the reasons he kept Cole and Pax in are pretty simple and nothing to do with stretching them out.
Cole was one out away from qualifying for the win and I don't think he wanted to pull his new big money Ace in that spot. Nothing to do with getting more pitches in, IMO, just him trying to show Cole respect, that he had confidence in him and wanted to reward him with getting a win.
As for Pax, similar in that he felt he was cruising and wanted to show his vet the same kind of respect, thinking he could overcome the 2 run HR. I think had Pax not been so dominating he would've pulled him after the first guy got on, and certainly after the 2 run HR. Boone was fooled on that one and it ended up costing them the game.
To be honest, as well as Pax was dealing I thought he'd get the lefty out, and leave leading 3-2. I definitely didn't see the tying HR coming there so I can't kill Boone too much because I still felt Pax had good enough stuff to get another out at least.
Aaron Boone or Joe Girardi?
Because it's been studied and shown that offenses that score higher % of runs via HR do better in post-season than the opposite.
What seems more likely? Getting a long sustained rally against a pitcher like Verlander or getting a guy or two on and then hitting a mistake for a bomb? It's the latter.
"Aww theses guys aren't like the late 90's Yanks" No shit shirlock that was an all time fucking dynasty! This team has competed in the playoffs for years. Maybe came up a bit short because of starting pitching but getting Cole may help that. This team will be fine but this season will be crazy and the playoff format really doesn't reward teams for doing well so we'll see how it plays out.
Aaron Boone or Joe Girardi?
I think Joe, and he knew how to use his pen better as well. Boone is doing ok with that but Joe was/is about as good as there is in the game at it.
Oh fuck us, Randal's back?? Let me guess, Joey Cora has Boone's number too?