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Zeke Mowatt

Paulie from Brick : 8/9/2020 2:56 pm
In an earlier thread about New York Giant TE’s, Zeke Mowatt is an interesting player. A huge thanks to Eric for posting BigBlueVCR’s game tapes from the 80s/90s (Not a member of any social media or else I would have never viewed seen these fantastic clips!). It seemed zeke was a hell of a player. Big, strong, fast, and a matchup nightmare, especially with Bavaro. So here’s my question to BBI! Zeke Mowatt seemed like a dominate player. By looking at his stats, it would indicate he was hurt a lot. Did he fight with Parcells? Did George Young feel a 12 personnel was something not worth investing in (having to pay two TE) Or was the emergence of Mark Bavaro ultimately end Zeke Mowatt tenure with the New York Football Giants? Looking forward to hearing what you guys/gals have to say!
He flashed his dick...  
Milton : 8/9/2020 3:04 pm : link
...at Lisa Olsen.
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GiantEgo : 8/9/2020 3:08 pm : link
He was an emerging star that was injured in a preseason game and was never the same again. Interesting to consider what may have become of Bavaro had Mowatt stayed healthy.
Zeke was a good player....  
No Where Man : 8/9/2020 3:10 pm : link
Got hurt in the 1985 preseason and was out for the year. That was Bavaro's rookie year. MB played well and established himself as the starter going forward. Zeke came back in 1986, but at the start of that season, he wasn't the same player. Towards the end of 1986, he came back to his old self, catching a TD pass in the playoffs against the 49ers, as well as the first TD in the Super Bowl. Unfortunately, his legacy was tainted by being involved in the Lisa Olsen lockeroom incident years later when he was with New England.
RE: He flashed his dick...  
Jints in Carolina : 8/9/2020 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14946645 Milton said:
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...at Lisa Olsen.


The Patriot Missile
Mowatt  
Matt in SGS : 8/9/2020 3:13 pm : link
Coming out of 1984, Mowatt was looking like a breakout star at TE. He tore his ACL in training camp in 1985 and opened the door for Bavaro to get lots of playing time as a rookie. Mowatt was tentative coming back in 1986 (because I"m bored, I'm actually going to be posting highlights from the 1980s pre-season games since there is no pre-season to watch on the BigBlueVCR account). And Bavaro quickly became the best TE in the NFL by 1986, so Mowatt was relegated to 2nd TE status. But Mowatt never regained the same explosiveness after his ACL. He was a good TE, but not great.

By 1989, the Giants drafted Howard Cross to be the blocking TE opposite Bavaro and were starting to phase Mowatt out. Bavaro tore his ACL in 1989 in San Diego and Mowatt got lots of playing time, but the Giants saw Cross start to develop more. When it came time for Plan B free agency, Mowatt wanted more money, but the Giants were content to have Bavaro come back, with Cross in his 2nd year, and they got another blocking TE in Bob Mrosko. In 1990, the rules changed that the clock kept running on out of bounds plays until 2 min in the first half and 5 min in the 2nd half. So Parcells changed up his gameplan to control the clock and play defense. Mowatt was expendable and was allowed to go to the Patriots, where he decided to do some flashing.

When Bavaro failed his physical in 1991, Mowatt was brought back by the Giants after he was released by the Patriots.

Bottom line, Mowatt was on his way to becoming one of the best TEs in the NFL when he tore his ACL and by the time he got healthy, Bavaro had surpassed him and Cross took away his role as the 2nd TE.
Matt  
Paulie from Brick : 8/9/2020 3:41 pm : link
Thanks man! I enjoy reading your posts as well. That’s a shame on Mowatt and the female reporter. It seemed to dent his reputation, obviously. He just seemed so fluid, combined with Bavaro would have even made Buddy Ryan unsettled.
That game he had against the Chiefs in 1984 was something else.  
Mad Mike : 8/9/2020 4:16 pm : link
That was a great comeback, and he was terrific.
I recall Mowatt as the blocking TE until Howard Cross showed up  
Ivan15 : 8/9/2020 4:19 pm : link
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RE: Mowatt  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/9/2020 6:37 pm : link
In comment 14946655 Matt in SGS said:
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Coming out of 1984, Mowatt was looking like a breakout star at TE. He tore his ACL in training camp in 1985 and opened the door for Bavaro to get lots of playing time as a rookie. Mowatt was tentative coming back in 1986 (because I"m bored, I'm actually going to be posting highlights from the 1980s pre-season games since there is no pre-season to watch on the BigBlueVCR account). And Bavaro quickly became the best TE in the NFL by 1986, so Mowatt was relegated to 2nd TE status. But Mowatt never regained the same explosiveness after his ACL. He was a good TE, but not great.

By 1989, the Giants drafted Howard Cross to be the blocking TE opposite Bavaro and were starting to phase Mowatt out. Bavaro tore his ACL in 1989 in San Diego and Mowatt got lots of playing time, but the Giants saw Cross start to develop more. When it came time for Plan B free agency, Mowatt wanted more money, but the Giants were content to have Bavaro come back, with Cross in his 2nd year, and they got another blocking TE in Bob Mrosko. In 1990, the rules changed that the clock kept running on out of bounds plays until 2 min in the first half and 5 min in the 2nd half. So Parcells changed up his gameplan to control the clock and play defense. Mowatt was expendable and was allowed to go to the Patriots, where he decided to do some flashing.

When Bavaro failed his physical in 1991, Mowatt was brought back by the Giants after he was released by the Patriots.

Bottom line, Mowatt was on his way to becoming one of the best TEs in the NFL when he tore his ACL and by the time he got healthy, Bavaro had surpassed him and Cross took away his role as the 2nd TE.


Did he get hurt in camp or the preseson? I thought he was one of a long run of Giants who got hurt playing in the Jets preseason game.
RE: RE: Mowatt  
Matt in SGS : 8/9/2020 7:56 pm : link
In comment 14946780 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14946655 Matt in SGS said:


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Coming out of 1984, Mowatt was looking like a breakout star at TE. He tore his ACL in training camp in 1985 and opened the door for Bavaro to get lots of playing time as a rookie. Mowatt was tentative coming back in 1986 (because I"m bored, I'm actually going to be posting highlights from the 1980s pre-season games since there is no pre-season to watch on the BigBlueVCR account). And Bavaro quickly became the best TE in the NFL by 1986, so Mowatt was relegated to 2nd TE status. But Mowatt never regained the same explosiveness after his ACL. He was a good TE, but not great.

By 1989, the Giants drafted Howard Cross to be the blocking TE opposite Bavaro and were starting to phase Mowatt out. Bavaro tore his ACL in 1989 in San Diego and Mowatt got lots of playing time, but the Giants saw Cross start to develop more. When it came time for Plan B free agency, Mowatt wanted more money, but the Giants were content to have Bavaro come back, with Cross in his 2nd year, and they got another blocking TE in Bob Mrosko. In 1990, the rules changed that the clock kept running on out of bounds plays until 2 min in the first half and 5 min in the 2nd half. So Parcells changed up his gameplan to control the clock and play defense. Mowatt was expendable and was allowed to go to the Patriots, where he decided to do some flashing.

When Bavaro failed his physical in 1991, Mowatt was brought back by the Giants after he was released by the Patriots.

Bottom line, Mowatt was on his way to becoming one of the best TEs in the NFL when he tore his ACL and by the time he got healthy, Bavaro had surpassed him and Cross took away his role as the 2nd TE.



Did he get hurt in camp or the preseson? I thought he was one of a long run of Giants who got hurt playing in the Jets preseason game.


I think he actually got hurt at Pittsburgh in the preseason in 1985. I’m watching that game tomorrow so I’ll check for sure.
RE: RE: RE: Mowatt  
Fritz : 8/9/2020 8:55 pm : link
In comment 14946820 Matt in SGS said:
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In comment 14946655 Matt in SGS said:


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Coming out of 1984, Mowatt was looking like a breakout star at TE. He tore his ACL in training camp in 1985 and opened the door for Bavaro to get lots of playing time as a rookie. Mowatt was tentative coming back in 1986 (because I"m bored, I'm actually going to be posting highlights from the 1980s pre-season games since there is no pre-season to watch on the BigBlueVCR account). And Bavaro quickly became the best TE in the NFL by 1986, so Mowatt was relegated to 2nd TE status. But Mowatt never regained the same explosiveness after his ACL. He was a good TE, but not great.

By 1989, the Giants drafted Howard Cross to be the blocking TE opposite Bavaro and were starting to phase Mowatt out. Bavaro tore his ACL in 1989 in San Diego and Mowatt got lots of playing time, but the Giants saw Cross start to develop more. When it came time for Plan B free agency, Mowatt wanted more money, but the Giants were content to have Bavaro come back, with Cross in his 2nd year, and they got another blocking TE in Bob Mrosko. In 1990, the rules changed that the clock kept running on out of bounds plays until 2 min in the first half and 5 min in the 2nd half. So Parcells changed up his gameplan to control the clock and play defense. Mowatt was expendable and was allowed to go to the Patriots, where he decided to do some flashing.

When Bavaro failed his physical in 1991, Mowatt was brought back by the Giants after he was released by the Patriots.

Bottom line, Mowatt was on his way to becoming one of the best TEs in the NFL when he tore his ACL and by the time he got healthy, Bavaro had surpassed him and Cross took away his role as the 2nd TE.



Did he get hurt in camp or the preseson? I thought he was one of a long run of Giants who got hurt playing in the Jets preseason game.



I think he actually got hurt at Pittsburgh in the preseason in 1985. I’m watching that game tomorrow so I’ll check for sure.


Yes, he got hurt against the Steelers in the last preseason game of 1985 and the rookie Bavaro became the starter and never looked back. Zeke came back in 1986 but he couldn’t beat out Bavaro who became a star in that season. Zeke does have the distinction of being the first Giant to score in a Super Bowl.
The other reason  
LeonBright45 : 8/9/2020 9:46 pm : link
Mowatt saw less time was the acquirement and emergence of FB Maurice Carthon. Rob Carpenter was a running FB, but he was replaced by Carthon who was like a 3rd Guard blocking out of the backfield and clearing the way.
Leon  
Paulie from Brick : 8/9/2020 10:25 pm : link
Good point. How was Carthon out of the backfield? Was he like a Lorenzo Neal type player?
Parcells re Mowatt  
Josh in MD : 8/9/2020 10:50 pm : link
Zeke was an undrafted free agent and emerged quickly. Could block and catch. Parcells, asked about him, said, with obvious enthusiasm and admiration, "he's just a football-playing dude."

(PS to Paulie: it's "dominant," not "dominate." Dominate is always a verb; never an adjective--although many sports fans make this mistake.)
I worked  
PaulN : 8/10/2020 6:30 am : link
With Zeke's brother Dan and I can tell you he was not happy Zeke lost his job to Mark in 86. I was surprised when he brought it up, but he said, my brother should be starting, I was surprised because Mark was so great. He only worked with us a few months, was a great guy, high character, we wanted to hire him off the temp. list as a permanent, but he got an offer just before we made the offer, offered him him more money to change his mind but he said he gave his word. I loved talking football with him, he was a big dude.
RE: He flashed his dick...  
PepperJ52 : 8/10/2020 7:23 am : link
In comment 14946645 Milton said:
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...at Lisa Olsen.


He did worse than that. He came up behind her while she was sitting down interviewing someone else and put his dick against (or practically against) her face. Nowadays, that could (and should) be prosecuted as sexual assault.
They  
PaulN : 8/10/2020 7:41 am : link
Just started letting women in the lockers, no excuse, but a lot of people were not happy. Some felt they should act out, its disgusting, but those different times. Still no excuse, if your pissed, stay dressed and don't talk.
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djstat : 8/10/2020 9:50 am : link
In comment 14946649 GiantEgo said:
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He was an emerging star that was injured in a preseason game and was never the same again. Interesting to consider what may have become of Bavaro had Mowatt stayed healthy.
Interesting what may have come of Bavaro had Bavaro stayed healthy. HOF?
Bavaro  
PaulN : 8/10/2020 4:23 pm : link
Was a Hall of fame talent, no question.
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