and we'll worry about Anthony Davis later. If Mitch were drafted by Miami or Toronto or Utah he'd probably be an All-Star by now. Gotta get to work on his offensive game.
RE: It means he is not just some assistant at the end of the bench
And why are you attacking me? all last year i said Durant was not coming..
I'm not attacking you at all. Nothing I said was remotely inflammatory. I'm just pointing out the faulty logic in thinking that hiring an assistant coach who was/is close to a player, doesn't guarantee anything.
RE: RE: It means he is not just some assistant at the end of the bench
And why are you attacking me? all last year i said Durant was not coming..
I'm not attacking you at all. Nothing I said was remotely inflammatory. I'm just pointing out the faulty logic in thinking that hiring an assistant coach who was/is close to a player, doesn't guarantee anything.
Nobkdy said it did, nobody said Davis is coming here, the combination of Wes and Payne though should grt them at least a meeting
and it gives us something to discuss while our team is basically dormant, but I can't get crazy about the "relationships" this guy developed with guys who spent about 6 months in Kentucky before turning pro.
nice hire, fine. All these moves show that the front office is building things pretty much from the ground up. Nice to see, but so much still to do and see. Seems the Knicks have their equilibrium, so to speak. I just can';t help but here The Who's "won't get fooled again" in my head...so damaged. Probably need therapy from this franchise.
AD isn’t coming here. But Longstaff and Payne aren’t quite the same situation. AD as of 2-3 years ago said he still talks to Payne twice a week. He calls him Uncle Kenny and that’s just Payne, never mind Wes who he’s also very close to.
At the end of the day though, it comes down to other things besides the staff or FO as always. Durant was going to the Warriors the second they lost that game to OKC. His mom could’ve been a Knicks assistant and it wouldn’t have mattered.
Payne was brought here is because of some AD dream then this would just be the same old FO with different faces. Hopefully that's not the case. And im not saying it is, obviously how would i know, but hopefully this organization is done basing everything around how to get a star here.
Payne was brought here is because of some AD dream then this would just be the same old FO with different faces. Hopefully that's not the case. And im not saying it is, obviously how would i know, but hopefully this organization is done basing everything around how to get a star here.
I don’t think this actually is a factor here. Towns called him one of the best development coaches in the world. His work with big men is what he’s known for so it’s likely more about Mitch and his ability to connect with young players and get them to work hard, than it is anything else
i dont think this hire is based on an AD pipe dream
But who knows? Maybe Payne will tap into something with him.
there's no code to crack with Randle. Cut out the iso nonsense and play more of a team game. Unfortunately, his fatal flaw is that his game is not ideal in today's NBA and I'm not sure he can co-exist with Mitch for big minutes.
was such an idiotic signing in a league where a guy like Kanter gets 2 for 10. Randle is what he is, youngish doesn't mean untapped potential when your skills are what they are.
if Payne's as good as his rep, then it's a great move. The Knicks need to develop their youth and this should help Mitch and maybe even salvage something from Knox (probably not, but he's at least familiar with him from Kentucky).
was such an idiotic signing in a league where a guy like Kanter gets 2 for 10. Randle is what he is, youngish doesn't mean untapped potential when your skills are what they are.
I wonder if we were even bidding against anyone for him. The partial guarantee ($4 million?)for 21/22 is not insignificant either.
Some have noticed Leon's resemblance to Tony Soprano, and Hahn compared the organizational structure to that of the mafia - "that's how they do things in South Jersey." Leon is the Godfather, Wes is consigliere, Thibs is a captain, and the rest are the soldiers (Perrin, Aller, etc.). Pretty excited about the front office, coaching staff and development team - we're finally clearing out the lackeys and bringing in some legit people.
isn't leaving LA but his quote on Payne and how he helped him is pretty exciting in terms of Mitch and maybe even Knox. I'm sure it doesn't hurt helping big men when you yourself at 6'8
was such an idiotic signing in a league where a guy like Kanter gets 2 for 10. Randle is what he is, youngish doesn't mean untapped potential when your skills are what they are.
Last offseason shows how incompetent the front office was. Put aside the disaster of the KP trade and missing on the top FAs, they essentially got a late 1st round pick for spending 70 million. They had endless possibilities to acquire talent or picks and they completely blew it. Imagine a scenario if they acquired CP3 and picked up a few extra picks along the way?
I always laugh when fans think Randle has any value. No team in the league has any interest in touching that contract. They will have to attach sweeteners to move him in any trade.
is a horrible player when you give him ball handling responsibility. This occurs when you have no lead guards on the roster...see NYK 19/20 roster.
Put him on most teams (those with true facilitators) and his warts are not so apparent. He is not the horrible player he was last year. He's far from perfect, but the contract isn't bad and he does have things he does well.
Lastly, if he is traded, he won't be traded for a team with cap room. It'll more likely be a deal where $$ plays a key role e.g. as part of a CP3 deal.
can score reasonably well and can rebound at a solid clip. He's a terrible defensive player and passer. Other than not being an annoying tool, what differentiates him and Kanter? This ignores the fact that he's a poor fit next to Mitch.
can score reasonably well and can rebound at a solid clip. He's a terrible defensive player and passer. Other than not being an annoying tool, what differentiates him and Kanter? This ignores the fact that he's a poor fit next to Mitch.
I'd say Randle can at least create his own shot (which is a valuable skill) much better than Kanter - but Kanter is a better rebounder/finisher. Both suck on defense. Given their current contracts, Kanter is a MUCH better value.
Kanter is pretty unique in the NBA these days. It seems like many teams prefer getting back on defense instead of pursuing offensive rebounds. But Kanter is so good at offensive rebounding and putbacks that he can help prop up an offense that would otherwise be struggling.
can score reasonably well and can rebound at a solid clip. He's a terrible defensive player and passer. Other than not being an annoying tool, what differentiates him and Kanter? This ignores the fact that he's a poor fit next to Mitch.
I'd say Randle can at least create his own shot (which is a valuable skill) much better than Kanter - but Kanter is a better rebounder/finisher. Both suck on defense. Given their current contracts, Kanter is a MUCH better value.
Kanter is pretty unique in the NBA these days. It seems like many teams prefer getting back on defense instead of pursuing offensive rebounds. But Kanter is so good at offensive rebounding and putbacks that he can help prop up an offense that would otherwise be struggling.
To be clear... I think Randle is marginally better than Kanter, I'm just saying taking into account the contracts.. Randle's looks comical.
I think Paul has played well enough and helped that team enough that they arent going to just give him away. Which sux cause i was def a fan of adding him.
I think Paul has played well enough and helped that team enough that they arent going to just give him away. Which sux cause i was def a fan of adding him.
They are at 107 million doesnt include cap holds for draft picks, plus the cap is most likely going to go down..
but man Dallas is an easy team to root against, Doncic, KP and Carlisle bitch about every single call..KP literally flopped 10 ft after gary trent jr touched him..
Did not know Knicks could sign Robinson to extension this offseason, wpuld you sign him now? 3 years 35 million or 4 years 50
is Mitch a RFA or UFA after 2022? That plays into it. I think he's only a RFA. But either way, I'd definitely consider extending him and getting him under team control for a significant amount of time.
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Did not know Knicks could sign Robinson to extension this offseason, wpuld you sign him now? 3 years 35 million or 4 years 50
is Mitch a RFA or UFA after 2022? That plays into it. I think he's only a RFA. But either way, I'd definitely consider extending him and getting him under team control for a significant amount of time.
he is restricted after next year and unrestricted after the following year
Keep in mind rookies will start their seasons just a few weeks after getting drafted, so the odds of instant impact are reduced. Throw in DJ Augustin as a starting point guard, and we'll be scouting the loaded draft class in no time.
Probably reduces the likelihood of a roster overhaul, since all the players wanted out because of him. Atkinson would probably enjoy coaching that group, especially Lavine and Lauri.
Probably reduces the likelihood of a roster overhaul, since all the players wanted out because of him. Atkinson would probably enjoy coaching that group, especially Lavine and Lauri.
Is Lavine up for an extension? that could play a part, but otherwise i agree..
Looks like Lavine is under contract for two more seasons.
No player or team options until it expires. So yeah, that's gonna come to a crossroads soon. I was thinking more of Lauri - we'll see who they hire. Lauri wasn't allowed any mid-range shots last year, which irritated him and probably led to his drop off in production. Obviously Atkinson would demand the same in his offense.
Gotta think that's the #1 job available. The opportunity to coach Zion. The Bulls may be a bigger and better all-around market, but the Pelicans have a more promising future.
Gotta think that's the #1 job available. The opportunity to coach Zion. The Bulls may be a bigger and better all-around market, but the Pelicans have a more promising future.
Not only Zion, Ingram is a budding star, assuming they resign him, young bench pieces, jrue holiday..
also add, I'd probably give up way more than would be recommended to draft LaMelo.
Think he's the only guy in the draft you can build a team around and has the clearest path to being a superstar. Maybe even include next year's first with some protections.
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With the win by the LA Clippers, New York will now have the 27th pick in the Draft. The Knicks also own a lottery pick and second from Charlotte - currently 6 and 39.
also add, I'd probably give up way more than would be recommended to draft LaMelo.
Think he's the only guy in the draft you can build a team around and has the clearest path to being a superstar. Maybe even include next year's first with some protections.
Agreed, hope the Knicks get 1 and save those assets but if i have to i am doing it
The Knicks are not making all seven of these draft picks over the next two years, and probably not all four of the first rounders. Can’t add that many young guys to a roster that’s already pretty young.
I bet they’d love to throw in a Dallas pick in a trade for a good veteran, so they can say they spun the KP haul into something positive.
Do you guys think the Knicks have enough assets (and opportunity) to somehow add 2 big stars by next season? Trade for one sign another...
You could make it work financially, i think if they want a star in free agency next year, they habe to trade for one this offseason or at least come close to making playoffs
How do people think LaMelo compares to Lonzo coming out?
To me, it seems like LaMelo has a higher ceiling due to his superior athletic ability but I’m a bit biased by Lonzo as a pro and seeing his limitations in the NBA
RE: How do people think LaMelo compares to Lonzo coming out?
To me, it seems like LaMelo has a higher ceiling due to his superior athletic ability but I’m a bit biased by Lonzo as a pro and seeing his limitations in the NBA
I won’t pretend to be an expert off of YouTube videos, but I think you’re right about the athletic ability - Lonzo doesn’t really create his own shot, and needed to improve his 3-ball just to be a competent NBA player. LaMelo is twitchy and crafty enough as a ball handler to get by defenders.
I have this uneasy feeling that Detroit - which has a glaring need at PG - will win the lottery and not entertain trade offers.
I am rooting for the Jazz and Philly to flame out bad. As great as he is , Gobert doesn't really fit the Knicks currently. But Simmons, Mitchell, and Embiid are high up on the list for the next stars to be traded.
I am rooting for the Jazz and Philly to flame out bad. As great as he is , Gobert doesn't really fit the Knicks currently. But Simmons, Mitchell, and Embiid are high up on the list for the next stars to be traded.
it will be interesting to see what Philly does, i think it is clear they are not going any farther with embiid and simmons pairing...
Do they trade Embiid move horford to center and add shooters around simmons..
or do they trade simmons and run the offense through embiid and surround him with shooters..
either way philly needs shooters
you should always root for a philly franchise to crash and burn
and im fine with giving it to him. Guy is a stud whose best basketball is ahead of him. Man what a shame we couldnt find a way to get ujiri. What a job he has done. So many teams consistently picking in the top 10 cant find good players and he grabs guys like FVV and Siakim with late picks (or undrafted in FVV case).
and im fine with giving it to him. Guy is a stud whose best basketball is ahead of him. Man what a shame we couldnt find a way to get ujiri. What a job he has done. So many teams consistently picking in the top 10 cant find good players and he grabs guys like FVV and Siakim with late picks (or undrafted in FVV case).
I agree with all of this. It's amazing that the final four Wichita State team was led by three players, two of which the Knicks had (and stunk up the join) and the third was Vanvleet.
How many picks are you willing to give up for Mitchell?
Tommy Beer has been pushing this for a while now. With Harris extremely unlikely I'd be all for Bogdanovic. Not particularly interested in Gallo given his age. All-in on FVV and as I've stated big on Harrell.
on Hield as well. He's owed essentially FVV money and given the choice it wouldn't be close. Also, not sure the origin but Knicks fans need to move on from Anunby, no chance Toronto deals him .
Riley is the king of finding underrated talent but man is Ujiri good.
Traded Grievis Vasquez for Anunoby 23rd and Powell, Siakam 27th, FVV scrap heap, RHJ for 2.5 million and now players like Boucher and Watson giving them quality minutes. Dolan was right to fawn over the guy.
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The New York Knicks are hiring Utah Jazz assistant Johnnie Bryant as associate head coach under Tom Thibodeau, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA
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It’s not unusual for Mitchell to receive a handful of daily texts from Bryant of film clips with accompanying notes.
“I watch film a lot, but I’ve never met someone who watches it more than me,” Mitchell said. “He’s always trying to find ways to get guys better and find little tweaks to improve your game.”
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so he is above Payne...
Payne is almost certainly being paid more so the title may have been necessary to snipe Bryant.
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Wow. Johnnie Bryant leaving the Jazz for a promotion with the Knicks. He’s renowned for his player development. This is a big loss for Utah.
love trolling the Knicks but it's not like they have drafted a bunch of reaches in recent years and yet the young players have mostly been awful. Have to believe player development has been lacking.
RE: How many picks are you willing to give up for Mitchell?
Honestly whatever it took to get him. Would you trade this for him?
Both 2020 1st round picks, 2021 Dallas unprotected, 2022 NYK pick and Barrett.
I would in a heartbeat but I don't think they entices Utah. They would probably want future picks instead of Clips or Dallas one. I'd also be open to taking Conley if they were looking to shed salary...
RE: RE: How many picks are you willing to give up for Mitchell?
Honestly whatever it took to get him. Would you trade this for him?
Both 2020 1st round picks, 2021 Dallas unprotected, 2022 NYK pick and Barrett.
I would in a heartbeat but I don't think they entices Utah. They would probably want future picks instead of Clips or Dallas one. I'd also be open to taking Conley if they were looking to shed salary...
My guess just to talk:
Barrett, 2020 1st, 2021 1st, 2021 dallas, and another future first
Riley is the king of finding underrated talent but man is Ujiri good.
Traded Grievis Vasquez for Anunoby 23rd and Powell, Siakam 27th, FVV scrap heap, RHJ for 2.5 million and now players like Boucher and Watson giving them quality minutes. Dolan was right to fawn over the guy.
I like what Rose has done thus far and definitely hopeful, but its still crazy to me the Knicks didn't make an all out push to get Masai. Hopefully they did behind the scenes and he turned them down. But he is by far the best GM in the league and hes up there in all of sports. Incredibly impressive what he's done in Toronto.
Riley is the king of finding underrated talent but man is Ujiri good.
Traded Grievis Vasquez for Anunoby 23rd and Powell, Siakam 27th, FVV scrap heap, RHJ for 2.5 million and now players like Boucher and Watson giving them quality minutes. Dolan was right to fawn over the guy.
I like what Rose has done thus far and definitely hopeful, but its still crazy to me the Knicks didn't make an all out push to get Masai. Hopefully they did behind the scenes and he turned them down. But he is by far the best GM in the league and hes up there in all of sports. Incredibly impressive what he's done in Toronto.
Why would toronto let him leave? Knicks probably would of had to give 2 1sts
Not to rehash this whole thing, but he only had 1 year left on his deal and if he wanted to take the Knicks job- something could have been figured out. Even if they wanted 2 1sts, I would have done it. Especially if it was this years Clippers picks and one of the Dallas picks. You hate trading picks for him its close to a no brainer.
a highly-regarded person who’s gainfully employed by a successful NBA franchise. I’m sure a fat paycheck goes a long way, but it says something about his persuasive powers. These guys all know what the Knicks brand has been.
a highly-regarded person who’s gainfully employed by a successful NBA franchise. I’m sure a fat paycheck goes a long way, but it says something about his persuasive powers. These guys all know what the Knicks brand has been.
a highly-regarded person who’s gainfully employed by a successful NBA franchise. I’m sure a fat paycheck goes a long way, but it says something about his persuasive powers. These guys all know what the Knicks brand has been.
it'll be interesting to see who Rose brings on as GM after this lame duck year is over for Perry
a highly-regarded person who’s gainfully employed by a successful NBA franchise. I’m sure a fat paycheck goes a long way, but it says something about his persuasive powers. These guys all know what the Knicks brand has been.
is he persuasive or is he just throwing money around? I guess it doesn't really matter, but hiring a great staff should be the "easy" part of running a team.
tommy breer are already hinting at it..
I dont think it happens but i do think Knicks get a meeting
Rose probabky feeding him info aince Woj is CAA
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tommy breer are already hinting at it..
I dont think it happens but i do think Knicks get a meeting
Ala Longstaff and Durant?
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whispers which will inevitably be followed by LOL Knicks once we opts in or resigns with LAL.
tommy breer are already hinting at it..
I dont think it happens but i do think Knicks get a meeting
Ala Longstaff and Durant?
Must have missed where Longstaff was making 2 million a year as an assistant..
And the Knicks getting a meeting with Davis is not just based on Payne
Booker's a pipe dream. He's under contact through 2024
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whispers which will inevitably be followed by LOL Knicks once we opts in or resigns with LAL.
tommy breer are already hinting at it..
I dont think it happens but i do think Knicks get a meeting
Ala Longstaff and Durant?
Must have missed where Longstaff was making 2 million a year as an assistant..
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
I'm not attacking you at all. Nothing I said was remotely inflammatory. I'm just pointing out the faulty logic in thinking that hiring an assistant coach who was/is close to a player, doesn't guarantee anything.
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And why are you attacking me? all last year i said Durant was not coming..
I'm not attacking you at all. Nothing I said was remotely inflammatory. I'm just pointing out the faulty logic in thinking that hiring an assistant coach who was/is close to a player, doesn't guarantee anything.
Nobkdy said it did, nobody said Davis is coming here, the combination of Wes and Payne though should grt them at least a meeting
At the end of the day though, it comes down to other things besides the staff or FO as always. Durant was going to the Warriors the second they lost that game to OKC. His mom could’ve been a Knicks assistant and it wouldn’t have mattered.
I don’t think this actually is a factor here. Towns called him one of the best development coaches in the world. His work with big men is what he’s known for so it’s likely more about Mitch and his ability to connect with young players and get them to work hard, than it is anything else
I do wonder what happened with Bam Adebayo. He looks like a beast with the Heat. What happened at Kentucky?
Fuck that loser. He never would have made it in New York anyways.
--Me after he resigns with the Lakers.
I do wonder what happened with Bam Adebayo. He looks like a beast with the Heat. What happened at Kentucky?
Kentucky bigs in that system are asked to play down low rebound and post up..
Towns has mentioned this, he had no idea how to post up when he got to kentucky and learned in that system..
there's no code to crack with Randle. Cut out the iso nonsense and play more of a team game. Unfortunately, his fatal flaw is that his game is not ideal in today's NBA and I'm not sure he can co-exist with Mitch for big minutes.
and this (if true) is head scratching
"GM Scott Perry refused former player development director Craig Robinson’s pleas to send Smith to the G-League to ease him back."
and this (if true) is head scratching
"GM Scott Perry refused former player development director Craig Robinson’s pleas to send Smith to the G-League to ease him back."
Not the first time someone's said Perry hates the G League. It's a flaw and a mistake. Hopefully it gets corrected.
Great news on Ball. Lets go get him.
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and this (if true) is head scratching
"GM Scott Perry refused former player development director Craig Robinson’s pleas to send Smith to the G-League to ease him back."
Not the first time someone's said Perry hates the G League. It's a flaw and a mistake. Hopefully it gets corrected.
Great news on Ball. Lets go get him.
Thibs twice mentioned the G league (unsolicited) during his zoom call so I have to believe we will make use of it this year.
I wonder if we were even bidding against anyone for him. The partial guarantee ($4 million?)for 21/22 is not insignificant either.
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Nets Will Consider Jason Kidd, Ime Udoka, Ty Lue, Jeff Van Gundy
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Jacques Vaughn has done a great job with the Nets, IMO
Last offseason shows how incompetent the front office was. Put aside the disaster of the KP trade and missing on the top FAs, they essentially got a late 1st round pick for spending 70 million. They had endless possibilities to acquire talent or picks and they completely blew it. Imagine a scenario if they acquired CP3 and picked up a few extra picks along the way?
I always laugh when fans think Randle has any value. No team in the league has any interest in touching that contract. They will have to attach sweeteners to move him in any trade.
Put him on most teams (those with true facilitators) and his warts are not so apparent. He is not the horrible player he was last year. He's far from perfect, but the contract isn't bad and he does have things he does well.
Lastly, if he is traded, he won't be traded for a team with cap room. It'll more likely be a deal where $$ plays a key role e.g. as part of a CP3 deal.
I'd say Randle can at least create his own shot (which is a valuable skill) much better than Kanter - but Kanter is a better rebounder/finisher. Both suck on defense. Given their current contracts, Kanter is a MUCH better value.
Kanter is pretty unique in the NBA these days. It seems like many teams prefer getting back on defense instead of pursuing offensive rebounds. But Kanter is so good at offensive rebounding and putbacks that he can help prop up an offense that would otherwise be struggling.
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can score reasonably well and can rebound at a solid clip. He's a terrible defensive player and passer. Other than not being an annoying tool, what differentiates him and Kanter? This ignores the fact that he's a poor fit next to Mitch.
I'd say Randle can at least create his own shot (which is a valuable skill) much better than Kanter - but Kanter is a better rebounder/finisher. Both suck on defense. Given their current contracts, Kanter is a MUCH better value.
Kanter is pretty unique in the NBA these days. It seems like many teams prefer getting back on defense instead of pursuing offensive rebounds. But Kanter is so good at offensive rebounding and putbacks that he can help prop up an offense that would otherwise be struggling.
To be clear... I think Randle is marginally better than Kanter, I'm just saying taking into account the contracts.. Randle's looks comical.
I think Paul has played well enough and helped that team enough that they arent going to just give him away. Which sux cause i was def a fan of adding him.
I think Paul has played well enough and helped that team enough that they arent going to just give him away. Which sux cause i was def a fan of adding him.
They are at 107 million doesnt include cap holds for draft picks, plus the cap is most likely going to go down..
He wants to be an NBA head coach.
Depends if that signing would prevent other big moves. Might hamstring them a bit.
is Mitch a RFA or UFA after 2022? That plays into it. I think he's only a RFA. But either way, I'd definitely consider extending him and getting him under team control for a significant amount of time.
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is Mitch a RFA or UFA after 2022? That plays into it. I think he's only a RFA. But either way, I'd definitely consider extending him and getting him under team control for a significant amount of time.
he is restricted after next year and unrestricted after the following year
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How many wins does this #Knicks squad finish with next year?
Thibs/Payne/Woody/Miller/etc
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Augustin/Edwards/RJ/Carmelo/Mitch
Frank/Bullock/Harkless/Randle/Taj
Knicks need to add a SG that can actually shoot and not wayne ellington.
Shocked if Melo is not signed..
Obviously this all changes if a star becomes available
I dont understand how he doesnt get more respect, wont jump teams, wants to stay in portland for the rest of his career..should get more respect
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Is Lavine up for an extension? that could play a part, but otherwise i agree..
maybe we can get our pick back...lol.
Gotta think that's the #1 job available. The opportunity to coach Zion. The Bulls may be a bigger and better all-around market, but the Pelicans have a more promising future.
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Gotta think that's the #1 job available. The opportunity to coach Zion. The Bulls may be a bigger and better all-around market, but the Pelicans have a more promising future.
Not only Zion, Ingram is a budding star, assuming they resign him, young bench pieces, jrue holiday..
Apparently their top 2 is kidd and lue
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Please take Scott Perry back. Please.
maybe we can get our pick back...lol.
I didn’t need to know that we gave up a pick for Perry. Thanks I think?
Why give up a pick for an OK exec? Why?
Averaged 18-6-4 out of the break on much improved shooting %s including 41% from 3.
My only concern is his fit with RJ, but that's a later problem. Focus on the BPA.
Think he's the only guy in the draft you can build a team around and has the clearest path to being a superstar. Maybe even include next year's first with some protections.
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With the win by the LA Clippers, New York will now have the 27th pick in the Draft. The Knicks also own a lottery pick and second from Charlotte - currently 6 and 39.
Think he's the only guy in the draft you can build a team around and has the clearest path to being a superstar. Maybe even include next year's first with some protections.
Agreed, hope the Knicks get 1 and save those assets but if i have to i am doing it
I bet they’d love to throw in a Dallas pick in a trade for a good veteran, so they can say they spun the KP haul into something positive.
You could make it work financially, i think if they want a star in free agency next year, they habe to trade for one this offseason or at least come close to making playoffs
I won’t pretend to be an expert off of YouTube videos, but I think you’re right about the athletic ability - Lonzo doesn’t really create his own shot, and needed to improve his 3-ball just to be a competent NBA player. LaMelo is twitchy and crafty enough as a ball handler to get by defenders.
I have this uneasy feeling that Detroit - which has a glaring need at PG - will win the lottery and not entertain trade offers.
Or maybe a "small token of appreciation"...
I am rooting for the Jazz and Philly to flame out bad. As great as he is , Gobert doesn't really fit the Knicks currently. But Simmons, Mitchell, and Embiid are high up on the list for the next stars to be traded.
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KP return is more accurate.
Or maybe a "small token of appreciation"...
I am rooting for the Jazz and Philly to flame out bad. As great as he is , Gobert doesn't really fit the Knicks currently. But Simmons, Mitchell, and Embiid are high up on the list for the next stars to be traded.
it will be interesting to see what Philly does, i think it is clear they are not going any farther with embiid and simmons pairing...
Do they trade Embiid move horford to center and add shooters around simmons..
or do they trade simmons and run the offense through embiid and surround him with shooters..
either way philly needs shooters
I agree with all of this. It's amazing that the final four Wichita State team was led by three players, two of which the Knicks had (and stunk up the join) and the third was Vanvleet.
i want a 2nd round pick back
Tommy Beer has been pushing this for a while now. With Harris extremely unlikely I'd be all for Bogdanovic. Not particularly interested in Gallo given his age. All-in on FVV and as I've stated big on Harrell.
If you can get him and send them randle in the process, could be something to think about
Traded Grievis Vasquez for Anunoby 23rd and Powell, Siakam 27th, FVV scrap heap, RHJ for 2.5 million and now players like Boucher and Watson giving them quality minutes. Dolan was right to fawn over the guy.
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The New York Knicks are hiring Utah Jazz assistant Johnnie Bryant as associate head coach under Tom Thibodeau, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA
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The New York Knicks are hiring Utah Jazz assistant Johnnie Bryant as associate head coach under Tom Thibodeau, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA
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so he is above Payne...
It’s not unusual for Mitchell to receive a handful of daily texts from Bryant of film clips with accompanying notes.
“I watch film a lot, but I’ve never met someone who watches it more than me,” Mitchell said. “He’s always trying to find ways to get guys better and find little tweaks to improve your game.”
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The New York Knicks are hiring Utah Jazz assistant Johnnie Bryant as associate head coach under Tom Thibodeau, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA
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so he is above Payne...
Payne is almost certainly being paid more so the title may have been necessary to snipe Bryant.
Johnnie Bryant works behind the scenes, but his impact on the Jazz is unmistakable - ( New Window )
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Wow. Johnnie Bryant leaving the Jazz for a promotion with the Knicks. He’s renowned for his player development. This is a big loss for Utah.
Honestly whatever it took to get him. Would you trade this for him?
Both 2020 1st round picks, 2021 Dallas unprotected, 2022 NYK pick and Barrett.
I would in a heartbeat but I don't think they entices Utah. They would probably want future picks instead of Clips or Dallas one. I'd also be open to taking Conley if they were looking to shed salary...
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Honestly whatever it took to get him. Would you trade this for him?
Both 2020 1st round picks, 2021 Dallas unprotected, 2022 NYK pick and Barrett.
I would in a heartbeat but I don't think they entices Utah. They would probably want future picks instead of Clips or Dallas one. I'd also be open to taking Conley if they were looking to shed salary...
My guess just to talk:
Barrett, 2020 1st, 2021 1st, 2021 dallas, and another future first
Traded Grievis Vasquez for Anunoby 23rd and Powell, Siakam 27th, FVV scrap heap, RHJ for 2.5 million and now players like Boucher and Watson giving them quality minutes. Dolan was right to fawn over the guy.
I like what Rose has done thus far and definitely hopeful, but its still crazy to me the Knicks didn't make an all out push to get Masai. Hopefully they did behind the scenes and he turned them down. But he is by far the best GM in the league and hes up there in all of sports. Incredibly impressive what he's done in Toronto.
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Riley is the king of finding underrated talent but man is Ujiri good.
Traded Grievis Vasquez for Anunoby 23rd and Powell, Siakam 27th, FVV scrap heap, RHJ for 2.5 million and now players like Boucher and Watson giving them quality minutes. Dolan was right to fawn over the guy.
I like what Rose has done thus far and definitely hopeful, but its still crazy to me the Knicks didn't make an all out push to get Masai. Hopefully they did behind the scenes and he turned them down. But he is by far the best GM in the league and hes up there in all of sports. Incredibly impressive what he's done in Toronto.
Why would toronto let him leave? Knicks probably would of had to give 2 1sts
wonder if walt perrin helped with this
it'll be interesting to see who Rose brings on as GM after this lame duck year is over for Perry
is he persuasive or is he just throwing money around? I guess it doesn't really matter, but hiring a great staff should be the "easy" part of running a team.