and unlimited family loyalty. The Yankees have literally spent billions on payroll since 2001 and have won 1 WS. They have become the Red Sox bitch on Cashman's watch. But carry on that he he has won some good recent dumpster dives. The entire Rays roster is a dumpster dive for 50 million and they're better at baseball than the Yankees.
BLA BLA FUCKING BLA.
Lets see how many WS wins the Rays and Sox have over the next 20 years compared to the Yanks. Sox had an amazing decade and they paid as much or more for their titles as any team has. Good for them, well earned. Lets see them do it again and again like the Yanks have.
If you don't think Cashman is as well regarded a front office EXEC as anyone, you're a fucking fool.
The rays "greatness" comment isn't even worth the effort. Wake me up when they win a series in late september or october. TIA. Good for them too...and LOL at them in a big sustained moment. As east.
Gross. Will be 32 by the end of the WS this season, and has never pitched more than 160 innings. Miss me with that.
I hear you. I see that Wheeler deal as his floor for the most part, maybe slightly less because of age/injury and COVID revenues but I doubt it. He has that #1 potential that someone will want to try and tap into.
but bloaded rotation salaries tanked that franchise really quickly. I love Pax and Tanaka but we need to be really careful particularly with ownership insisting on fiscal responsibility. Having Stanton on the books during his post-peak years is going to make it critical that the big money contracts are carefully doled out.
At this point i'm not seeing Sanchez getting one of those deals. Really sucks to be a catcher in MLB.
Gross. Will be 32 by the end of the WS this season, and has never pitched more than 160 innings. Miss me with that.
I hear you. I see that Wheeler deal as his floor for the most part, maybe slightly less because of age/injury and COVID revenues but I doubt it. He has that #1 potential that someone will want to try and tap into.
you may not be wrong at the end of the day, but I'd note that Wheeler was 2.5 years younger and had thrice eclipsed 180 innings, including the prior 2 seasons consecutively.
but bloaded rotation salaries tanked that franchise really quickly. I love Pax and Tanaka but we need to be really careful particularly with ownership insisting on fiscal responsibility. Having Stanton on the books during his post-peak years is going to make it critical that the big money contracts are carefully doled out.
At this point i'm not seeing Sanchez getting one of those deals. Really sucks to be a catcher in MLB.
I absolutely love Tanaka, but can't see signing him to anything longer than 3 years. I doubt he accepts that. Paxton I can do without. As much as I love Judge, I would let somebody else pay him obscene money for a long deal. Too many injuries and not enough consistency. Torres, I want to keep.
DJLM is the toughest one in my estimation. I really want to retain him. He has been perfect for the Yankees both at the plate and in the field. But, he's already on the other side of 30 and playing, by far, the best baseball of his career. This is probably his best and only shot at a real payday. I just can't see paying him over $20M per year and/or a deal 5 years or greater. If he accepts less on both fronts, then I am all for re-signing him. I just think he is going to want more.
I absolutely love Tanaka, but can't see signing him to anything longer than 3 years. I doubt he accepts that. Paxton I can do without. As much as I love Judge, I would let somebody else pay him obscene money for a long deal. Too many injuries and not enough consistency. Torres, I want to keep.
DJLM is the toughest one in my estimation. I really want to retain him. He has been perfect for the Yankees both at the plate and in the field. But, he's already on the other side of 30 and playing, by far, the best baseball of his career. This is probably his best and only shot at a real payday. I just can't see paying him over $20M per year and/or a deal 5 years or greater. If he accepts less on both fronts, then I am all for re-signing him. I just think he is going to want more.
great points, and I agree on all. They can't carry Stanton and Judge long term because neither can stay on the field.
I love Lemahieu. I was skeptical about his numbers being from COL, but man do i like him. He plays BASEBALL. hits to all fields. puts the ball in play. nothing more boring than. K,BB, HR.
If Crash Davis thought Ks were fascist, would would he call what we have now? :-)
I absolutely love Tanaka, but can't see signing him to anything longer than 3 years. I doubt he accepts that. Paxton I can do without. As much as I love Judge, I would let somebody else pay him obscene money for a long deal. Too many injuries and not enough consistency. Torres, I want to keep.
DJLM is the toughest one in my estimation. I really want to retain him. He has been perfect for the Yankees both at the plate and in the field. But, he's already on the other side of 30 and playing, by far, the best baseball of his career. This is probably his best and only shot at a real payday. I just can't see paying him over $20M per year and/or a deal 5 years or greater. If he accepts less on both fronts, then I am all for re-signing him. I just think he is going to want more.
It's not my money, so i greedily want DJ, Judge and Paxton signed. However, you have to perform on the field to get paid.
I'd prefer they get Judge some better money immediately and get him signed up through 2025. DJ will likely get a longer term deal from someone else and we have alot of young talent in the middle infield that may be ready to take a spot in 2022.
Starting pitching is an absolute need. The Nats won the WS last year behind that rotation and carefully inserted vets in that lineup. If we don't sign Pax or Tanaka i'd really like to know where the horses are going to come from.
to me his game is getting more clever. He has smart at bats and so much plate coverage. He can get hits off bad pitches. I listed my optimistic numbers but I think you could get him for something like 4/72 and i'd do that.
In terms of what actually could get a contract done I see Tanaka at something like 4/88 and I think Paxton 5 / 100 makes sense to me.
It becomes an incredibly tough call. Because if you are talking about Judge and one of those guys vs the 3 of them and no Judge, I think, given our farm / depth (if we can swing Andujar in left especially) you'd have to go with those 3 over Judge + 1 of them. When I think you'd be lucky to get Judge at 10/350 even after more up and down seasons with injuries.
Judge is my favorite Yankee in a while honestly so it pains me to look at it like this and ideally we could sign everyone. Tanaka or Pax + DJLM + Judge might be doable without the expectation of paying Sanchez. But correct me if i'm wrong since we are over the luxury tax threshold this year we need to get under it next year?
BLA BLA FUCKING BLA.
Lets see how many WS wins the Rays and Sox have over the next 20 years compared to the Yanks. Sox had an amazing decade and they paid as much or more for their titles as any team has. Good for them, well earned. Lets see them do it again and again like the Yanks have.
If you don't think Cashman is as well regarded a front office EXEC as anyone, you're a fucking fool.
The rays "greatness" comment isn't even worth the effort. Wake me up when they win a series in late september or october. TIA. Good for them too...and LOL at them in a big sustained moment. As east.
Gross. Will be 32 by the end of the WS this season, and has never pitched more than 160 innings. Miss me with that.
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5 years for $100m I would imagine
Gross. Will be 32 by the end of the WS this season, and has never pitched more than 160 innings. Miss me with that.
I hear you. I see that Wheeler deal as his floor for the most part, maybe slightly less because of age/injury and COVID revenues but I doubt it. He has that #1 potential that someone will want to try and tap into.
At this point i'm not seeing Sanchez getting one of those deals. Really sucks to be a catcher in MLB.
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5 years for $100m I would imagine
Gross. Will be 32 by the end of the WS this season, and has never pitched more than 160 innings. Miss me with that.
I hear you. I see that Wheeler deal as his floor for the most part, maybe slightly less because of age/injury and COVID revenues but I doubt it. He has that #1 potential that someone will want to try and tap into.
you may not be wrong at the end of the day, but I'd note that Wheeler was 2.5 years younger and had thrice eclipsed 180 innings, including the prior 2 seasons consecutively.
He's got the better ERA and K's/9 and had some really good seasons (especially 2017) while also in the AL.
Its close - his yearly salary will be comparable.
At this point i'm not seeing Sanchez getting one of those deals. Really sucks to be a catcher in MLB.
DJLM is the toughest one in my estimation. I really want to retain him. He has been perfect for the Yankees both at the plate and in the field. But, he's already on the other side of 30 and playing, by far, the best baseball of his career. This is probably his best and only shot at a real payday. I just can't see paying him over $20M per year and/or a deal 5 years or greater. If he accepts less on both fronts, then I am all for re-signing him. I just think he is going to want more.
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DJLM is the toughest one in my estimation. I really want to retain him. He has been perfect for the Yankees both at the plate and in the field. But, he's already on the other side of 30 and playing, by far, the best baseball of his career. This is probably his best and only shot at a real payday. I just can't see paying him over $20M per year and/or a deal 5 years or greater. If he accepts less on both fronts, then I am all for re-signing him. I just think he is going to want more.
great points, and I agree on all. They can't carry Stanton and Judge long term because neither can stay on the field.
I love Lemahieu. I was skeptical about his numbers being from COL, but man do i like him. He plays BASEBALL. hits to all fields. puts the ball in play. nothing more boring than. K,BB, HR.
If Crash Davis thought Ks were fascist, would would he call what we have now? :-)
DJLM is the toughest one in my estimation. I really want to retain him. He has been perfect for the Yankees both at the plate and in the field. But, he's already on the other side of 30 and playing, by far, the best baseball of his career. This is probably his best and only shot at a real payday. I just can't see paying him over $20M per year and/or a deal 5 years or greater. If he accepts less on both fronts, then I am all for re-signing him. I just think he is going to want more.
It's not my money, so i greedily want DJ, Judge and Paxton signed. However, you have to perform on the field to get paid.
I'd prefer they get Judge some better money immediately and get him signed up through 2025. DJ will likely get a longer term deal from someone else and we have alot of young talent in the middle infield that may be ready to take a spot in 2022.
Starting pitching is an absolute need. The Nats won the WS last year behind that rotation and carefully inserted vets in that lineup. If we don't sign Pax or Tanaka i'd really like to know where the horses are going to come from.
In terms of what actually could get a contract done I see Tanaka at something like 4/88 and I think Paxton 5 / 100 makes sense to me.
It becomes an incredibly tough call. Because if you are talking about Judge and one of those guys vs the 3 of them and no Judge, I think, given our farm / depth (if we can swing Andujar in left especially) you'd have to go with those 3 over Judge + 1 of them. When I think you'd be lucky to get Judge at 10/350 even after more up and down seasons with injuries.
Judge is my favorite Yankee in a while honestly so it pains me to look at it like this and ideally we could sign everyone. Tanaka or Pax + DJLM + Judge might be doable without the expectation of paying Sanchez. But correct me if i'm wrong since we are over the luxury tax threshold this year we need to get under it next year?