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Justin Pugh is the 9th highest rated G in the NFL?

I Love Clams Casino : 8/11/2020 4:56 pm
how did the Giants mis-use him...I mean he's a G, you got pass blocking, you got run blocking...am I over simplifying this?

W...T....F....?
His main issue was health  
robbieballs2003 : 8/11/2020 4:57 pm : link
but it helps when you have a mobile QB that buys a little extra time.
You must  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2020 4:58 pm : link
have missed that Justin Pugh was actually a decent player for us.

The problem was he was always hurt and he wanted to be paid mega-bucks as an injury prone TACKLE.
Based on the five games a year....  
MOOPS : 8/11/2020 5:00 pm : link
that he actually plays.
I thought Pugh was a good player  
TJ : 8/11/2020 5:46 pm : link
I don't blame him for the injuries.
And I don't blame him that though he is better as a guard, he was also the best LT on the team for most of his time here.
Coach  
mittenedman : 8/11/2020 5:48 pm : link
killer
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arcarsenal : 8/11/2020 5:51 pm : link
I mean, he's a pretty good player. He's just had trouble staying healthy.

If that ranking is favorable to him, it's probably not by a whole lot.
RE: You must  
section125 : 8/11/2020 5:51 pm : link
In comment 14947882 Eric from BBI said:
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have missed that Justin Pugh was actually a decent player for us.

The problem was he was always hurt and he wanted to be paid mega-bucks as an injury prone TACKLE.


I agree.

He was still the best OL at any position but center on the Giants. Yes he was injured often, unfortunately.
Until last year....  
Britt in VA : 8/11/2020 5:54 pm : link
he hadn't started a full season since 2013.

Last 3 seasons:

Missed 9 games
Missed 8 games
Missed 5 games
Let..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/11/2020 5:54 pm : link
me guess - PFF??
The guy misses 21 of 48 games over three seasons with us  
Torrag : 8/11/2020 6:21 pm : link
Then plays 16 games for the first time since he was a rook 6 years ago. Fuck him.







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christian : 8/11/2020 6:21 pm : link
From the few tidbits I've read, Pugh had a healthy productive year in 2019.

Maybe a change of scenery made him less of a dope.

I'll never forget his ridiculous claim his injuries were caused by the Giants asking him to play multiple positions.
Pugh was a good player for us when healthy, particularly at  
BlueLou'sBack : 8/11/2020 6:32 pm : link
OG. He has good feet. But he's not powerful enough to ever sniff an All Pro or 2nd team All pro selection, and for a 20 something overall pick, that's not a great return on quality.

And as noted his quantity of play was disastrous. I'll take Hernandez after his "troubled" 2019 season over Pugh any day of the week and twice on Sundays. WH hasn't missed a game yet. Heck, I'm not sure that guy has missed a snap.

At OL, reliability is the best ability. Especially at OL, where team chemistry and cohesiveness trumps individual talent.

What do Thomas, Peart, Lemieux, Gates all have in common (as well as Hernandez and Zeitler?)

They play damn near every game.
I don't know if I'd say he was ''good''  
sb from NYT Forum : 8/11/2020 6:35 pm : link
I'd say he was average. He had a good rookie year but after that he had some OK play and some bad play.
RE: You must  
I Love Clams Casino : 8/11/2020 6:35 pm : link
In comment 14947882 Eric from BBI said:
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have missed that Justin Pugh was actually a decent player for us.

The problem was he was always hurt and he wanted to be paid mega-bucks as an injury prone TACKLE.


Yeah, I suppose that's true, He never played well against the Eagles though....but a big part of the rating was the fact that he started all 16 games for the Cardinals in 2019.
RE: ...  
djm : 8/11/2020 6:40 pm : link
In comment 14947915 christian said:
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From the few tidbits I've read, Pugh had a healthy productive year in 2019.

Maybe a change of scenery made him less of a dope.

I'll never forget his ridiculous claim his injuries were caused by the Giants asking him to play multiple positions.


Health and luck are intertwined.
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ghost718 : 8/11/2020 7:14 pm : link
Thought  
Lines of Scrimmage : 8/11/2020 7:38 pm : link
he would be a average LT. Maybe that would have helped with the injuries. As stated, dependability is vital.

Little outspoken compared to most of the other Giants OL I can recall.
Justin Pugh at Tackle  
eric2425ny : 8/11/2020 7:55 pm : link
EF gets most of the blame  
Dave : 8/11/2020 8:12 pm : link
but pugh and richburg were bad picks too
RE: I thought Pugh was a good player  
Ivan15 : 8/11/2020 8:54 pm : link
In comment 14947901 TJ said:
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I don't blame him for the injuries.
And I don't blame him that though he is better as a guard, he was also the best LT on the team for most of his time here.


He may have been the best LT but that was my default. Fact is, he never played the position he was drafted for.
Locker room lawyer  
regulator : 8/11/2020 10:48 pm : link
Between him and Schwartz, we had an unfavorable ratio of media quotations and headlines to on-field performance.

Not a bad guy, not a bad player, I just didn’t like his game.
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Banks : 8/12/2020 12:13 am : link
he was solid while healthy, but he missed a lot of time as previously pointed out and he was always running his mouth to the media. It was strange to hear so much talk from an above average player.

I can't say I watch every single lineman. I don't think any average joe can, but 9 seems a bit high from what I've seen before his injuries. These rankings are all subjective and may be a product of the fact he now blocks for the most mobile qb in the NFL. Good luck to him if we have the season, but I don't miss him
When he is actually starting games and doesn’t have to face  
LBH15 : 8/12/2020 7:29 am : link
the Eagle defense, then Pugh becomes an above average player.



Locker room lawyer, couldn't stay healthy  
JonC : 8/12/2020 9:23 am : link
couldn't nail down a position, talked a lot about money and didn't deliver on the field. We're better off moving on.
a legend in his own mind. big talk little play, and little play in  
Victor in CT : 8/12/2020 9:24 am : link
both quantity and quality.

and PFF sucks.
RE: You must  
djstat : 8/12/2020 9:32 am : link
In comment 14947882 Eric from BBI said:
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have missed that Justin Pugh was actually a decent player for us.

The problem was he was always hurt and he wanted to be paid mega-bucks as an injury prone TACKLE.
Agree with Eric. He played well here when healthy. Also, the mobile QB tend to make OL look better then they are. Ronnie Stanley will get paid megabucks for being very good, but Lamar Jackson has made him look great. Same with Tunsil and Watson
He's a decent  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/12/2020 9:53 am : link
player when healthy. But man does he love the sound of his own voice from what I recall.
RE: You must  
Johnny5 : 8/12/2020 10:12 am : link
In comment 14947882 Eric from BBI said:
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have missed that Justin Pugh was actually a decent player for us.

The problem was he was always hurt and he wanted to be paid mega-bucks as an injury prone TACKLE.

This. And I actually liked him at right tackle. He was a complainer and oft injured but he was a good blocker for us.
The problem was he was drafted as a Tackle  
Rudy5757 : 8/12/2020 10:50 am : link
but was a better guard and wanted to be paid like a tackle. Due to injuries he was too big a risk for the Giants to sign. He is a solid Guard when healthy. I am not sorry we didnt resign him, I wouldnt have paid big money for an often injured player. Plus he didnt seem to have the best attitude publicly.
I think the problem with  
phil in arizona : 8/12/2020 1:44 pm : link
Pugh was that they kept moving him around to compensate for weaknesses at other positions. They had no problem forcing Flowers at LT even though he clearly could not play the position, yet they insisted on moving Pugh everywhere. Even if he had to play from a position he wasn't the best at.

They should have penciled Pugh in at LG and called it a day. Maybe see if he could play some LT.
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