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NFT: Braves at Yankees GDT 8/12 7:05PM

Jints in Carolina : 8/12/2020 4:28 pm
Ynoa vs. Tanaka

I'm still pissed about the Canes-Bruins game so I need the Yanks to win.

No Judge....cause for concern? He did come out of last nights game.

NYY
DJ LeMahieu (R) 2B
Luke Voit (R) 1B
Aaron Hicks (S) CF
Gio Urshela (R) 3B
Gleyber Torres (R) SS
Mike Ford (L) DH
Gary Sanchez (R) C
Clint Frazier (R) RF
Brett Gardner (L) LF

ATL
Dansby Swanson (R) SS
Travis d'Arnaud (R) C
Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
Marcell Ozuna (R) DH
Adam Duvall (R) LF
Nick Markakis (L) RF
Johan Camargo (S) 2B
Austin Riley (R) 3B
Ender Inciarte (L) CF
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RE: why did Tanaka leave the game  
arcarsenal : 8/12/2020 9:04 pm : link
In comment 14948731 Del Shofner said:
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after 66 pitches? From the box score looks like he was doing OK.


Was wondering that too. I have the game on, but the volume is low and I'm finishing up work so I didn't really catch why Boone yanked him.

Hopefully it's just that he's building back up after needing to re-set for a couple weeks after getting hit in the noggin.
Love watching Clint swing the bat.  
bceagle05 : 8/12/2020 9:06 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2020 9:07 pm : link
Red Thunder doesn't look like he wants to let this opportunity get away from him.
RE: Nice RBI double from Hicks  
Percy : 8/12/2020 9:08 pm : link
In comment 14948727 section125 said:
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to drive in LeMahieu....

Has been sensational tonight. Only one more (triple) needed for the cycle!
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2020 9:09 pm : link
RISP KING.
Anybody surprised that  
section125 : 8/12/2020 9:10 pm : link
DJ has three hits? 2 out RBI.
5-2 good guys
Frazier and DJ.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/12/2020 9:11 pm : link
What a combo.
And Luke with the  
section125 : 8/12/2020 9:13 pm : link
two out RBI after DJ steals 2nd.

Timely hitting is starting to happen.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/12/2020 9:18 pm : link
So, I think it's a no-brainer and we'd all agree that DJ should 100% be re-signed to a new deal to keep him here.

Question is how many years/AAV gets it done?

DJ is 32 now. A young 32 - he just turned it about a month ago.

3 years with an option?

5 years would make me a little uneasy, knowing we could definitely be looking at a couple of crappy ones at the end.

I feel like 3 with an option year would be the sweet spot.

Something like 16 per? He's on a 12 per deal now, so he's got to get a raise from there. 16-18 per seems about right.
let's keep the offense going  
RasputinPrime : 8/12/2020 9:32 pm : link
more damage to do here.
RE: .  
RasputinPrime : 8/12/2020 9:34 pm : link
In comment 14948741 arcarsenal said:
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So, I think it's a no-brainer and we'd all agree that DJ should 100% be re-signed to a new deal to keep him here.

Question is how many years/AAV gets it done?

DJ is 32 now. A young 32 - he just turned it about a month ago.

3 years with an option?

5 years would make me a little uneasy, knowing we could definitely be looking at a couple of crappy ones at the end.

I feel like 3 with an option year would be the sweet spot.

Something like 16 per? He's on a 12 per deal now, so he's got to get a raise from there. 16-18 per seems about right.


When he finishes the season over. 400 and we win the world series I have a feeling he will command more than 16mm per. Alot will depend on the MLB-Pandemic financial world.
stretching loaisga out here  
xman : 8/12/2020 9:41 pm : link
lets see if he can get through 3.
DJLM -  
section125 : 8/12/2020 9:47 pm : link
pay more for less seasons. 3 years $16-18 seems about right.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2020 9:53 pm : link
Chad Green is going to be an elite reliever if he's going to be able to use this slider now.
Chad Green doing  
section125 : 8/12/2020 9:55 pm : link
Chad Green things - and he was off tonight. He be racking up innings early this year.

Guess we will see Ottavino in the 8th.
DJ gets Frazier's triple  
Del Shofner : 8/12/2020 10:04 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2020 10:04 pm : link
Lol... now he hits a triple.

Such a good hitter.
RE: .  
RasputinPrime : 8/12/2020 10:12 pm : link
In comment 14948756 arcarsenal said:
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Chad Green is going to be an elite reliever if he's going to be able to use this slider now.


It sure has looked better. If he can actually harness it, he's a closer.
Avilan  
RasputinPrime : 8/12/2020 10:14 pm : link
really can't pitch to RHH.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/12/2020 10:24 pm : link
Ah, the obligatory HBP on a running 2-seamer...

This time, it's Gio.

Every freaking game one of our guys gets hit.
anyone listening to these Big Ed Delahanty stories?  
Del Shofner : 8/12/2020 10:28 pm : link
Crazy stuff. Bottom line is that apparently no one has ever won a batting title in both the NL and AL. Would not have guessed that. DJLM has a chance this year although it will come with a big asterisk.

I don't know who I thought might have done it. I guess the truly great hitters weren't typically traded and free agency is relatively recent in the history of the sport.
Working so can't watch the game  
adamg : 8/12/2020 10:28 pm : link
But I'm glad to see Frazier smacking it and Torres get on base three times. DJ is just a beast.
Gary  
RasputinPrime : 8/12/2020 10:31 pm : link
just in between. Damnit.

Let's close this one out without drama or lower body injuries.
Holder throwing BP -  
Del Shofner : 8/12/2020 10:39 pm : link
lucky the first batter didn't hit a HR, it was almost out. Next two guys have hit the ball hard. Britton warming up.
Seems like every yankee pitcher that has a last name beginning in H  
xman : 8/12/2020 10:41 pm : link
stinks
Never understood Boone's  
section125 : 8/12/2020 10:43 pm : link
penchant to bring in a B pitcher and then have to get the A pitcher to bailout the B pitcher. Should have just gotten Britton out there with the day off tomorrow.

While I understand him wanting to save some arm time, he ends up wasting it.
Green might be the better  
xman : 8/12/2020 10:45 pm : link
closer
yikes - Ozuna hit that hard  
Del Shofner : 8/12/2020 10:47 pm : link
but Hicks got it
whew -  
Del Shofner : 8/12/2020 10:49 pm : link
Britton did not have his "A" game tonight, but got it done.
Done  
Percy : 8/12/2020 10:50 pm : link
Not too much need for the two-on drama.
RE: Seems like every yankee pitcher that has a last name beginning in H  
Del Shofner : 8/12/2020 10:53 pm : link
In comment 14948774 xman said:
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stinks


Hale-Happ-Heller-Holder

May be something to that ...
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2020 10:54 pm : link
Another W - another one with a little more drama than needed at the end, but it doesn't matter.

Good start to the 9-game homestand here.

I want 7-2 on this thing. Or better.
RE: whew -  
section125 : 8/12/2020 10:54 pm : link
In comment 14948778 Del Shofner said:
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Britton did not have his "A" game tonight, but got it done.


I doubt he got a proper warm up. Mariano needed about 6-8 pitches to warm up. Most need a lot more. Holder was warming up in the 8th, I did not see Britton. Britton has a lot of innings(and 7 saves). He was getting better as he threw more.

Another stellar win for Jints. Day off tomorrow and then a weekend with our friends.

Chappy may be back Saturday or Sunday.
our old friend Eovaldi against Cole  
Del Shofner : 8/12/2020 11:04 pm : link
on Friday night.
RE: our old friend Eovaldi against Cole  
section125 : 8/12/2020 11:20 pm : link
In comment 14948790 Del Shofner said:
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on Friday night.


Wonderful. Setting up a 0-0 game.
RE: RE: whew -  
adamg : 8/12/2020 11:45 pm : link
In comment 14948784 section125 said:
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In comment 14948778 Del Shofner said:


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Britton did not have his "A" game tonight, but got it done.



I doubt he got a proper warm up. Mariano needed about 6-8 pitches to warm up. Most need a lot more. Holder was warming up in the 8th, I did not see Britton. Britton has a lot of innings(and 7 saves). He was getting better as he threw more.

Another stellar win for Jints. Day off tomorrow and then a weekend with our friends.

Chappy may be back Saturday or Sunday.


I forgot Chappy was even on the team. Our bullpen is sooo depp.
Deep  
adamg : 8/12/2020 11:46 pm : link
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Better not lose to that stuff Eovaldi again  
Greg from LI : 8/13/2020 12:08 am : link
I can't abide that again
Good win  
Carson53 : 8/13/2020 9:36 am : link
no sloppiness in this game, Britton looked better.
He needs more work to stay sharp as Coney said.
How 'bout Red Thunder stealing the show!
Looks like Cole and Eovaldi on Friday.
The Sawx pitching is just brutal besides Eovaldi and Perez.

It was a good night, the B's also won during the day.
The legend of Patrice Bergeron continues...
RE: why did Tanaka leave the game  
Carson53 : 8/13/2020 9:39 am : link
In comment 14948731 Del Shofner said:
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after 66 pitches? From the box score looks like he was doing OK.
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They are bringing him along slowly, it appears.
He has had 51, then 59, now 66 pitches.
I would like to see him get up to 85 pitches next time.
RE: Better not lose to that stuff Eovaldi again  
arcarsenal : 8/13/2020 10:44 am : link
In comment 14948808 Greg from LI said:
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I can't abide that again


The dude would NOT abide.

gah! that STIFF Eovaldi  
Greg from LI : 8/13/2020 10:46 am : link
Besides the homer, Gary hit a couple of outs that were rockets last night. He and Gleyber are gonna bust out soon.
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arcarsenal : 8/13/2020 10:55 am : link
Gary's AB's lately have definitely been better. Finally got one over the fence last night and he's barreled up some balls that went to unfortunate spots and were outs.

He's making better contact. One of those Sanchez HR streaks is probably around the corner.

Not sure what has been snagging Gleyber so badly - he looks a little loose mechanically. I know he's a bit of a free swinger in empty or one strike counts, but his approach in the past has always really tightened up with 2 strikes and he's struggling to do that now the way he has in the past.

He's way too good to struggle for much longer. A breakout should definitely be around the bend for him, too.

I hope Boone doesn't feel obligated to play Gardner if Judge can go on Friday. Frazier really should be in LF. Tauchman should also be playing ahead of Gardner.

It's a short year. We just need to play the best players and the guys who are hitting. Clint deserves PT and so does Tauchman.
RE: .  
bigbluehoya : 8/13/2020 11:10 am : link
In comment 14948964 arcarsenal said:
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Gary's AB's lately have definitely been better. Finally got one over the fence last night and he's barreled up some balls that went to unfortunate spots and were outs.

He's making better contact. One of those Sanchez HR streaks is probably around the corner.

Not sure what has been snagging Gleyber so badly - he looks a little loose mechanically. I know he's a bit of a free swinger in empty or one strike counts, but his approach in the past has always really tightened up with 2 strikes and he's struggling to do that now the way he has in the past.

He's way too good to struggle for much longer. A breakout should definitely be around the bend for him, too.

I hope Boone doesn't feel obligated to play Gardner if Judge can go on Friday. Frazier really should be in LF. Tauchman should also be playing ahead of Gardner.

It's a short year. We just need to play the best players and the guys who are hitting. Clint deserves PT and so does Tauchman.


yep, Judge or no Judge, neither Frazier nor Tauchman should be sitting in favor of Gardner these days. Late inning defensive replacement if anything, or give Hicks a day off or in the DH slot if you want to manage his wear and tear.
Thirded  
Greg from LI : 8/13/2020 12:18 pm : link
Gardy is purely a bench piece at this point. Frazier brings the lumber and Tauchman has been a great all-around OF for them.
RE: Thirded  
section125 : 8/13/2020 12:33 pm : link
In comment 14949013 Greg from LI said:
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Gardy is purely a bench piece at this point. Frazier brings the lumber and Tauchman has been a great all-around OF for them.


Gardy definitely seems to have lost his bat speed. He simply cannot catch up to a FB anymore and hence his plate discipline is gone. I have never seen him swing at so much trash at the rate with which he is doing now. Tauchman should definitely be the starter. I'll wait on Frazier for a few more games, but wow did he look good last night, even in the field.
Frazier's bat is electric  
NoGainDayne : 8/13/2020 3:27 pm : link
there also is no reason he shouldn't be good in the field. He is a great athlete. He's the first person I've ever seen that has gotten the yips in the field though. Knoblauch and the throwing stuff was definitely the weirdest thing I've seen but the way he was playing some of those balls last year was 2nd. But the way through that is reps so I hope his bat keeps playing well so they have patience with him if he makes a mistake. It doesn't seem bad that he is hungry to succeed though and honestly he is the kind of player that I can see being invaluable come playoff time. He has the kind of bat speed that can punish the elite flamethrowers in the league that have proven to be a huge bugaboo for us hoisting another pennant.
RE: Frazier's bat is electric  
Eman11 : 8/13/2020 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14949177 NoGainDayne said:
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there also is no reason he shouldn't be good in the field. He is a great athlete. He's the first person I've ever seen that has gotten the yips in the field though. Knoblauch and the throwing stuff was definitely the weirdest thing I've seen but the way he was playing some of those balls last year was 2nd. But the way through that is reps so I hope his bat keeps playing well so they have patience with him if he makes a mistake. It doesn't seem bad that he is hungry to succeed though and honestly he is the kind of player that I can see being invaluable come playoff time. He has the kind of bat speed that can punish the elite flamethrowers in the league that have proven to be a huge bugaboo for us hoisting another pennant.


He was never great in the OF but I think the concussion/s last year really affected his play. Not just the missed time and lack of practice but he looked a bit gun shy and unsure of himself out there, especially going back on balls.

I'm not sure his head was ever 100% over them last year, both physically and mentally. Can't blame him, but I think it was clear they affected his play.

It wouldn't surprise me at all knowing how bad he wants to play that he put in the work needed in the off season to improve defensively. I'm sure we'll find out since he no doubt earned more playing time last night.
just hope he doesn't pursue the ball  
xman : 8/13/2020 10:01 pm : link
near the wall and crash head first with his hustle and lack of technique
RE: RE: Frazier's bat is electric  
section125 : 8/14/2020 7:18 am : link
In comment 14949196 Eman11 said:
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I'm not sure his head was ever 100% over them last year, both physically and mentally. Can't blame him, but I think it was clear they affected his play.

It wouldn't surprise me at all knowing how bad he wants to play that he put in the work needed in the off season to improve defensively. I'm sure we'll find out since he no doubt earned more playing time last night.


I think you are correct. There is no way in God's green earth that a player of his caliber could play that badly without a serious cause. You could see better OF play by high schoolers than what we saw of him last year. He does not need to be Brett Gardner/Aaron Hicks. Competent will do it. For the short amount of exposure I saw the other night, he just looked better. He attacked the ball, was where he needed to be, made good throws.
I hope to see him on the field more.
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