NFT: Braves at Yankees GDT 8/12 7:05PM

"Lower body tightness" on Judge.

Here we go...

and still having to trot Gardner out there. Don't love this lineup, but what can you do?

you don't just pull him in an 8-3 game for "rest"

over a more productive Tauchman. Yup.

Bob Klapisch
@BobKlap
Aaron Judge hurt/not hurt - semantics, I guess - but out of the lineup with “lower body tightness” according to Aaron Boone. He means hips, hamstrings, calves. Could be a couple of days #Yankees

I wish Boone would quit lying about this stuff. I know he's trying not to create a stir, but one is created regardless when the guy isn't in the lineup and you have to explain why.

Amazing how these guys today just can't stay healthy for shit, even with the season starting 4 months late. Just incredible.

In comment 14948601 arcarsenal said:

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I wish Boone would quit lying about this stuff. I know he's trying not to create a stir, but one is created regardless when the guy isn't in the lineup and you have to explain why.

Yeah just come out with it but I'm wondering if it's his call or if it comes from above?

He said he's hoping with the day off today and team off day tomorrow it'll take care of it but when asked if he'll be able to pinch hit tonight Boone said "we'll see". That one I can see being cryptic about as there's no sense letting the Braves know if his bat might be lurking late.

In comment 14948602 Dave in Hoboken said:

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Amazing how these guys today just can't stay healthy for shit, even with the season starting 4 months late. Just incredible.

How many guys 6'6 or bigger are ever able to avoid injury over the long haul?

Next time don't have Judge running around on turf. That series in Tampa must have been harder on his lower half than we know.

Hopefully this is precautionary but i'm not holding my breath.

Good thing we have Andujar and Frazier.

In comment 14948612 Eman11 said:

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In comment 14948601 arcarsenal said: Quote: I wish Boone would quit lying about this stuff. I know he's trying not to create a stir, but one is created regardless when the guy isn't in the lineup and you have to explain why. Yeah just come out with it but I'm wondering if it's his call or if it comes from above? He said he's hoping with the day off today and team off day tomorrow it'll take care of it but when asked if he'll be able to pinch hit tonight Boone said "we'll see". That one I can see being cryptic about as there's no sense letting the Braves know if his bat might be lurking late.

I don't care if they are honest about it. Its a chess match and I don't need to know. I'm fine just sitting on my hands gnashing my teeth.

In comment 14948601 arcarsenal said:

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I wish Boone would quit lying about this stuff. I know he's trying not to create a stir, but one is created regardless when the guy isn't in the lineup and you have to explain why.

The word is he is sometimes less than forthright,
I mean I heard his comments after the game,
said he wanted to get him out, because they played on turf in Tampa.
All you have to say Booney, is he is dealing with some
tightness in his lower body, end of story.

in 4 days last week, that kinda sucks, but...it's so 2020.

what 4 weeks since they returned? It is spring training all over. So the players will get a little sore. Judge really has not had a game off, IIRC.

OK, was I positive enough.

But, yeah, I would have prefered Tauchman in the field over Frazier or Gardner. Really nice when you can whine over Gardner/Frazier/Tauchman/Andujar....

SOS with Judge and Stanton injuries

In comment 14948599 bigbluehoya said:

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over a more productive Tauchman. Yup.

I think the team is trying to get him a WS before sending him off. Tauchman I'm not sold on, but I think delaying the inevitable on Gardy is hurting Frazier's development.

are looking like huge whiffs right now.

I hope he's onto something we aren't and they can turn it around but the season is short and Gardy especially can't be stealing at bats from Tauchman primarily but also Andujar and Frazier if he is going to be swinging the bat like he is

In comment 14948666 NoGainDayne said:

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are looking like huge whiffs right now. I hope he's onto something we aren't and they can turn it around but the season is short and Gardy especially can't be stealing at bats from Tauchman primarily but also Andujar and Frazier if he is going to be swinging the bat like he is

Happ may be a whiff, true. Gardy can still field as well as anyone, so he serves a purpose. His bat will likely come alive. He is a slow starter and right now his bat is not catching up to the FB. I expect it will but you never know. I suspect Cash and Boone will watch it.

Not worried about Andujar or Frazier. Right now Andujar looks as lost as Gary and Gleyber.

and Ford 6th?

Gardy has definitely been taking ABs away from him. And if Gardy has an edge in the field it's not by much (especially considering Tauchman has the better arm)

I'd agree it's not a whiff if neither Frazier or Andujar look like viable major MLB players this year. But that's less true if Gardy doesn't heat up and keeps Tauchman on the bench.

Would definitely love to see Gardy heat up and not ruling it out by any stretch

ball called a strike on a 2-0 count. Why do umpires do that?

Could it be a result of his injury? I'm not sure what to think but his D has been one of the more puzzling things in Yankee games this year to me.

He should've caught that Markakis ball, and it should've been an error taboot. Cost the Yanks a run.

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we saw your raise and raised an additional homer..Gary and Clint back to back.

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looks at the third...He had his pitch on the 2nd one.

from curve balls from a lefty that were in the middle of the plate? WTF was that?

:::Gary Sanchez and Clint Frazier have entered the chat:::

to drive in LeMahieu....

after 66 pitches? From the box score looks like he was doing OK.

In comment 14948731 Del Shofner said:

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after 66 pitches? From the box score looks like he was doing OK.

Was wondering that too. I have the game on, but the volume is low and I'm finishing up work so I didn't really catch why Boone yanked him.

Hopefully it's just that he's building back up after needing to re-set for a couple weeks after getting hit in the noggin.

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Red Thunder doesn't look like he wants to let this opportunity get away from him.

In comment 14948727 section125 said:

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to drive in LeMahieu....

Has been sensational tonight. Only one more (triple) needed for the cycle!

RISP KING.

DJ has three hits? 2 out RBI.
5-2 good guys

What a combo.

two out RBI after DJ steals 2nd.

Timely hitting is starting to happen.

So, I think it's a no-brainer and we'd all agree that DJ should 100% be re-signed to a new deal to keep him here.

Question is how many years/AAV gets it done?

DJ is 32 now. A young 32 - he just turned it about a month ago.

3 years with an option?

5 years would make me a little uneasy, knowing we could definitely be looking at a couple of crappy ones at the end.

I feel like 3 with an option year would be the sweet spot.

Something like 16 per? He's on a 12 per deal now, so he's got to get a raise from there. 16-18 per seems about right.

more damage to do here.

In comment 14948741 arcarsenal said:

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So, I think it's a no-brainer and we'd all agree that DJ should 100% be re-signed to a new deal to keep him here. Question is how many years/AAV gets it done? DJ is 32 now. A young 32 - he just turned it about a month ago. 3 years with an option? 5 years would make me a little uneasy, knowing we could definitely be looking at a couple of crappy ones at the end. I feel like 3 with an option year would be the sweet spot. Something like 16 per? He's on a 12 per deal now, so he's got to get a raise from there. 16-18 per seems about right.

When he finishes the season over. 400 and we win the world series I have a feeling he will command more than 16mm per. Alot will depend on the MLB-Pandemic financial world.

lets see if he can get through 3.

pay more for less seasons. 3 years $16-18 seems about right.

Chad Green is going to be an elite reliever if he's going to be able to use this slider now.

Chad Green things - and he was off tonight. He be racking up innings early this year.

Guess we will see Ottavino in the 8th.

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Lol... now he hits a triple.

Such a good hitter.

In comment 14948756 arcarsenal said:

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Chad Green is going to be an elite reliever if he's going to be able to use this slider now.

It sure has looked better. If he can actually harness it, he's a closer.

really can't pitch to RHH.

Ah, the obligatory HBP on a running 2-seamer...

This time, it's Gio.

Every freaking game one of our guys gets hit.

Crazy stuff. Bottom line is that apparently no one has ever won a batting title in both the NL and AL. Would not have guessed that. DJLM has a chance this year although it will come with a big asterisk.

I don't know who I thought might have done it. I guess the truly great hitters weren't typically traded and free agency is relatively recent in the history of the sport.

But I'm glad to see Frazier smacking it and Torres get on base three times. DJ is just a beast.

just in between. Damnit.

Let's close this one out without drama or lower body injuries.

lucky the first batter didn't hit a HR, it was almost out. Next two guys have hit the ball hard. Britton warming up.

stinks

penchant to bring in a B pitcher and then have to get the A pitcher to bailout the B pitcher. Should have just gotten Britton out there with the day off tomorrow.

While I understand him wanting to save some arm time, he ends up wasting it.

closer

but Hicks got it

Britton did not have his "A" game tonight, but got it done.

Not too much need for the two-on drama.

In comment 14948774 xman said:

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stinks

Hale-Happ-Heller-Holder

May be something to that ...

Another W - another one with a little more drama than needed at the end, but it doesn't matter.

Good start to the 9-game homestand here.

I want 7-2 on this thing. Or better.

In comment 14948778 Del Shofner said:

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Britton did not have his "A" game tonight, but got it done.

I doubt he got a proper warm up. Mariano needed about 6-8 pitches to warm up. Most need a lot more. Holder was warming up in the 8th, I did not see Britton. Britton has a lot of innings(and 7 saves). He was getting better as he threw more.

Another stellar win for Jints. Day off tomorrow and then a weekend with our friends.

Chappy may be back Saturday or Sunday.

on Friday night.

In comment 14948790 Del Shofner said:

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on Friday night.

Wonderful. Setting up a 0-0 game.

In comment 14948784 section125 said:

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In comment 14948778 Del Shofner said: Quote: Britton did not have his "A" game tonight, but got it done. I doubt he got a proper warm up. Mariano needed about 6-8 pitches to warm up. Most need a lot more. Holder was warming up in the 8th, I did not see Britton. Britton has a lot of innings(and 7 saves). He was getting better as he threw more. Another stellar win for Jints. Day off tomorrow and then a weekend with our friends. Chappy may be back Saturday or Sunday.

I forgot Chappy was even on the team. Our bullpen is sooo depp.

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I can't abide that again

no sloppiness in this game, Britton looked better.
He needs more work to stay sharp as Coney said.
How 'bout Red Thunder stealing the show!
Looks like Cole and Eovaldi on Friday.
The Sawx pitching is just brutal besides Eovaldi and Perez.

It was a good night, the B's also won during the day.
The legend of Patrice Bergeron continues...

In comment 14948731 Del Shofner said:

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after 66 pitches? From the box score looks like he was doing OK.

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They are bringing him along slowly, it appears.
He has had 51, then 59, now 66 pitches.
I would like to see him get up to 85 pitches next time.

In comment 14948808 Greg from LI said:

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I can't abide that again

The dude would NOT abide.

Besides the homer, Gary hit a couple of outs that were rockets last night. He and Gleyber are gonna bust out soon.

Gary's AB's lately have definitely been better. Finally got one over the fence last night and he's barreled up some balls that went to unfortunate spots and were outs.

He's making better contact. One of those Sanchez HR streaks is probably around the corner.

Not sure what has been snagging Gleyber so badly - he looks a little loose mechanically. I know he's a bit of a free swinger in empty or one strike counts, but his approach in the past has always really tightened up with 2 strikes and he's struggling to do that now the way he has in the past.

He's way too good to struggle for much longer. A breakout should definitely be around the bend for him, too.

I hope Boone doesn't feel obligated to play Gardner if Judge can go on Friday. Frazier really should be in LF. Tauchman should also be playing ahead of Gardner.

It's a short year. We just need to play the best players and the guys who are hitting. Clint deserves PT and so does Tauchman.

In comment 14948964 arcarsenal said:

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Gary's AB's lately have definitely been better. Finally got one over the fence last night and he's barreled up some balls that went to unfortunate spots and were outs. He's making better contact. One of those Sanchez HR streaks is probably around the corner. Not sure what has been snagging Gleyber so badly - he looks a little loose mechanically. I know he's a bit of a free swinger in empty or one strike counts, but his approach in the past has always really tightened up with 2 strikes and he's struggling to do that now the way he has in the past. He's way too good to struggle for much longer. A breakout should definitely be around the bend for him, too. I hope Boone doesn't feel obligated to play Gardner if Judge can go on Friday. Frazier really should be in LF. Tauchman should also be playing ahead of Gardner. It's a short year. We just need to play the best players and the guys who are hitting. Clint deserves PT and so does Tauchman.

yep, Judge or no Judge, neither Frazier nor Tauchman should be sitting in favor of Gardner these days. Late inning defensive replacement if anything, or give Hicks a day off or in the DH slot if you want to manage his wear and tear.

Gardy is purely a bench piece at this point. Frazier brings the lumber and Tauchman has been a great all-around OF for them.

In comment 14949013 Greg from LI said:

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Gardy is purely a bench piece at this point. Frazier brings the lumber and Tauchman has been a great all-around OF for them.

Gardy definitely seems to have lost his bat speed. He simply cannot catch up to a FB anymore and hence his plate discipline is gone. I have never seen him swing at so much trash at the rate with which he is doing now. Tauchman should definitely be the starter. I'll wait on Frazier for a few more games, but wow did he look good last night, even in the field.

there also is no reason he shouldn't be good in the field. He is a great athlete. He's the first person I've ever seen that has gotten the yips in the field though. Knoblauch and the throwing stuff was definitely the weirdest thing I've seen but the way he was playing some of those balls last year was 2nd. But the way through that is reps so I hope his bat keeps playing well so they have patience with him if he makes a mistake. It doesn't seem bad that he is hungry to succeed though and honestly he is the kind of player that I can see being invaluable come playoff time. He has the kind of bat speed that can punish the elite flamethrowers in the league that have proven to be a huge bugaboo for us hoisting another pennant.

In comment 14949177 NoGainDayne said:

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there also is no reason he shouldn't be good in the field. He is a great athlete. He's the first person I've ever seen that has gotten the yips in the field though. Knoblauch and the throwing stuff was definitely the weirdest thing I've seen but the way he was playing some of those balls last year was 2nd. But the way through that is reps so I hope his bat keeps playing well so they have patience with him if he makes a mistake. It doesn't seem bad that he is hungry to succeed though and honestly he is the kind of player that I can see being invaluable come playoff time. He has the kind of bat speed that can punish the elite flamethrowers in the league that have proven to be a huge bugaboo for us hoisting another pennant.

He was never great in the OF but I think the concussion/s last year really affected his play. Not just the missed time and lack of practice but he looked a bit gun shy and unsure of himself out there, especially going back on balls.

I'm not sure his head was ever 100% over them last year, both physically and mentally. Can't blame him, but I think it was clear they affected his play.

It wouldn't surprise me at all knowing how bad he wants to play that he put in the work needed in the off season to improve defensively. I'm sure we'll find out since he no doubt earned more playing time last night.

near the wall and crash head first with his hustle and lack of technique

In comment 14949196 Eman11 said:

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I'm not sure his head was ever 100% over them last year, both physically and mentally. Can't blame him, but I think it was clear they affected his play. It wouldn't surprise me at all knowing how bad he wants to play that he put in the work needed in the off season to improve defensively. I'm sure we'll find out since he no doubt earned more playing time last night.

I think you are correct. There is no way in God's green earth that a player of his caliber could play that badly without a serious cause. You could see better OF play by high schoolers than what we saw of him last year. He does not need to be Brett Gardner/Aaron Hicks. Competent will do it. For the short amount of exposure I saw the other night, he just looked better. He attacked the ball, was where he needed to be, made good throws.
I hope to see him on the field more.