Try to salvage the series and get back to 9-11 before a series with Marlins coming up. Let's see if Peterson can continue to look promising:
Nimmo CF
Davis 3B
McNeil LF
Conforto RF
Alonso 1B
Smith DH
Gimenez SS
Nido C
Guillorme 2B
SP David Peterson LHP
Nats lineup TBD, RHP Austin Voth has impressed thus far
To make the playoffs in this expanded format all they really need to do is tread water and have 1 good streak at some point. Now seems as good of a time as any to run off a little winning streak to get above .500. Philly is up next and they may get swept at home by Baltimore today with the Marlins after that. Would be nice to get above .500 heading into the games vs. the NYY.
Bro, you almost made me spew coffee. LOL.
When one of the choices is Mets vs Nats -- self-immolation is not an outrageously bad alternative.
I'm giving Big Lefty Peterson a chance before I strike a match.
Greatest thing about yesterday's game was Alonso being patient, staying back on that curveball and crushing it.
This is random I know, but it occurred to me last night about Dom, his swing reminds me of Griffey Jr. I absolutely love Dom's swing.
I think there's a temptation to trade him, but I think he could be an AMAZING DH for us for a long time.
Agree on the Smith comment - addition by subtraction when it comes to Cespedes with both clubhouse and production.
To me it didn't look that bad. Probably a bruise, but come on. Rub dirt on it and let's go. Obviously not going to happen, but damn, this is so Mets. Something great happens and the fallout is something worse.
Homegrown. Great guys. Quite a future
6th career MLB HR
30 in 8 minor league seasons.
Going forward when he's healthy Cano should really be primarily a DH. With Gimenez remaining at 2b and SS.
And obviously if there's a way to find a better defensive catcher than Ramos, by all means. He's another DH candidate if we are being honest with ourselves.
keep the young guys in the lineup!!!
But he pitched out of it. Last year, he probably gives up a three run HR
Degrom
Thor
Matz
Peterson
??
Diaz
Familia
Lugo
Gsellmen
K Smith
Brach
D Smith
Ramos
Nido
Alonso
Cano
Rosario
JD
Nimrod
Conforto
Dom
McNeil
Giminez
Guillorme
So, really, they need one starting pitcher and one bullpen guy and a 5th OFer.
I let Stroman walk and sign a big time free agent as a starting pitcher. That way you keep Puck in reserve as a sixth starter.
there's not much in the SP market, so I'd try to keep Stroman on a 1 year deal. I'd also contemplate trying to trade 1 of our young position players for a young SP at a similar arbitration stage of their career if there's a decent one out there.
it is a pretty complete team though.
there's not much in the SP market, so I'd try to keep Stroman on a 1 year deal. I'd also contemplate trying to trade 1 of our young position players for a young SP at a similar arbitration stage of their career if there's a decent one out there.
it is a pretty complete team though.
Agree on Ramos. I just put him in because I think Realmuto is unlikely.
Fuck Stroman. If his family was in Atlanta, Houston, or Miami, where the virus is rife, no problem. They are in NY where the virus is largely under control. This guy just didn’t want to play once he had gained time for free agency.
I never want to see him in a Mets uniform again. That video was such garbage.
I would never sign him. Plus, he isn’t that good. A lot better options out there for a #3 starter. Like Trevor Bauer
PS: Sorry for the rant. But Stroman pisses me off. Talk about abandoning your teammates. Alonso is from Florida, where COVID is raging. Do you think Pete even thought about not playing?
He's still 1 of the better SP available in the offseason so who knows. I think his real concern was just getting injured and hurting his value bc a ton of pitchers especially have gotten hurt already (likely bc of the weird restart).
But he's now come up small in 2 years where he could have been the difference between a postseason run or not. Definitely wouldn't overpay just bc it was a shitty trade.
Yes. Because they both are claiming imminent danger from COVID.
You read my mind. Totally gutless 'me' decision. Deion would be proud of him...
So that would mean teams have more incentive than usual to sign players tagged with a QO. But either way I really fail to see how there's going to be a hot market for Stroman's services.
His 2nd half with the Mets in '19 sucked. His '20 is now nothing. And now he gets to face what will likely be a blood bath of a free agency with revenues way down.
Almost everyone who got a multi-year deal last year, off a record revenue year, had a better season than Stroman in '19 (Wheeler, Ryu). Keuchel would seemingly be the absolute best case comp for his situation (3yrs, 55m) and it is sort of comparable since he even sat out a chunk of last year - but I highly doubt that offer exists with the current state of MLB revenues.
Stroman's 2019 with the Mets did not suck. In 11 games started, Stroman give up 2 runs or less in 7 of them. Another game he gave up 3 runs. Yes, I would have liked to get a little more innings out of some of his starts but to ask like he was horrible is way off.
Listen - I'm not the biggest fan of Stroman but he's a quality pitcher. However, it was a moronic trade to bring him here in the first place and as a result, he came to the Mets with very high expectations. But let's not be foolish, he's a good pitcher.
Stroman's 2019 with the Mets did not suck. In 11 games started, Stroman give up 2 runs or less in 7 of them. Another game he gave up 3 runs. Yes, I would have liked to get a little more innings out of some of his starts but to ask like he was horrible is way off.
Listen - I'm not the biggest fan of Stroman but he's a quality pitcher. However, it was a moronic trade to bring him here in the first place and as a result, he came to the Mets with very high expectations. But let's not be foolish, he's a good pitcher.
That's fair, overall even as a Met he was probably a slightly above average starter - but relative to his career and especially his 1st half last year, his 2nd half did suck. Most Yankee fans preferred him to Wheeler and went on endlessly about how he was the better pitcher in a harder division. Then he came to the weaker division and pitched to an era a full run higher and saw his whip surge up to his career high.
His numbers as a met compared to his career averages were not good.
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hilarious and most certainly based on emotion.
Stroman's 2019 with the Mets did not suck. In 11 games started, Stroman give up 2 runs or less in 7 of them. Another game he gave up 3 runs. Yes, I would have liked to get a little more innings out of some of his starts but to ask like he was horrible is way off.
Listen - I'm not the biggest fan of Stroman but he's a quality pitcher. However, it was a moronic trade to bring him here in the first place and as a result, he came to the Mets with very high expectations. But let's not be foolish, he's a good pitcher.
That's fair, overall even as a Met he was probably a slightly above average starter - but relative to his career and especially his 1st half last year, his 2nd half did suck. Most Yankee fans preferred him to Wheeler and went on endlessly about how he was the better pitcher in a harder division. Then he came to the weaker division and pitched to an era a full run higher and saw his whip surge up to his career high.
His numbers as a met compared to his career averages were not good.
Also fair. Don't mean to point you out specifically...the same has been said from many posters here. And I get it.
Personally, I don't even think he wanted to be here. The picture of a young Stroman in a Mets jacket was cute and a good story but make not mistake...he did not want to come to the Mets. Nobody does. Stro wanted to go to the Yankees. Childhood fandom for these players literally means nothing.
Childhood fandom for these players literally means nothing.
Unless you're John Tavares
Sure, in 7 of his 11 starts he allowed 2 runs or less, but in some of those 7 he didn't even make it out of the 5th inning.
He had 4 quality starts out of 11 as a Met. For comparison purposes Steven Matz had 6 quality starts in that same time frame (also out of 11 starts).
Like I've said all along, he was very mediocre when he got to the Mets.
He had 5 of 11 average game scores (GSC > 50)
I never said if he was a good pitcher or not, he didn't pitch great with the Mets and the trade was ridiculous.
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like Diaz gets bad luck all the time. The dribbler and then the Davis error.
But he pitched out of it. Last year, he probably gives up a three run HR
Bad luck or not, it's good to see Diaz pitching better this year, knock on wood (though the bar was pretty low, it would be hard for him to pitch worse than last year...)
after his second blow up Diaz also kind of downplayed it (sort of an obvious excuse).
Rojas could have let things slide like Callaway did and make the normal platitudes that it's still the first week of the season yada yada, but instead he was clear and honest. He said Diaz looked like a totally different pitcher and they needed to talk about his emotions on the mound.
The next day the 2 supposedly had a conversation and Diaz asked to pitch more frequently. Which Rojas has done, while also giving him more opportunities in non-close situations. Imagine that, surface problems and take sensible steps to remedy them and things can improve!
Rojas has been very impressive early on in seeming to be unafraid to have candid conversations, make adjustments, and reward those who are performing or producing.
Sure, in 7 of his 11 starts he allowed 2 runs or less, but in some of those 7 he didn't even make it out of the 5th inning.
He had 4 quality starts out of 11 as a Met. For comparison purposes Steven Matz had 6 quality starts in that same time frame (also out of 11 starts).
Like I've said all along, he was very mediocre when he got to the Mets.
He had 5 of 11 average game scores (GSC > 50)
I never said if he was a good pitcher or not, he didn't pitch great with the Mets and the trade was ridiculous.
Well, I did mention that I would've liked to get more innings out of Stroman and, yes, he didn't get out of the 5th a few more times than Matz. But Matz is an interesting comparison.
They both pitched 11 games during that stretch. They both pitched the same amount of innings during that stretch (58.5 vs 58.7). Stroman gave up 25 earned runs while Matz gave up 27 runs. In fact, most of their stats were almost identical (Ks, BBs, HRs). However, Matz' "shit the bed" factor was always greater...as we have seen in other seasons as well as this one again.
If memory serves, Callaway yanked Stroman from the game a couple of times that were head scratchers and one game he left early due to injury. Nevertheless, I agree that we could have gotten more innings out of him. But Stroman also never let the game get away. I think Stroman pitched well for the Mets.
after his second blow up Diaz also kind of downplayed it (sort of an obvious excuse).
Rojas could have let things slide like Callaway did and make the normal platitudes that it's still the first week of the season yada yada, but instead he was clear and honest. He said Diaz looked like a totally different pitcher and they needed to talk about his emotions on the mound.
The next day the 2 supposedly had a conversation and Diaz asked to pitch more frequently. Which Rojas has done, while also giving him more opportunities in non-close situations. Imagine that, surface problems and take sensible steps to remedy them and things can improve!
Rojas has been very impressive early on in seeming to be unafraid to have candid conversations, make adjustments, and reward those who are performing or producing.
So far Rojas has shown enough IMHO to justify getting a full season in 2021 absent someone who is clearly better being available. I think he is doing the best he can with what he was dealt.