According to Jason Cole's bio of Elway, Tebow made a “cottage industry” of speaking gigs. He charged a $50,000 speaking fee at various churches. When Elway’s wife, Janet, asked Tebow to make an appearance at a charity event. Tebow’s brother reportedly told her it would cost $50,000. Elway's wife declined, saying her husband didn’t pay for such appearances.
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Was going to say the same thing. Really don’t like Elway, and this is a bad look for him. If you are going to write a book and talk about stuff like this than good luck working with people who likely won’t respect you.
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if anyone knows avaricious and self-centered, it's John Elway.
Was going to say the same thing. Really don’t like Elway, and this is a bad look for him. If you are going to write a book and talk about stuff like this than good luck working with people who likely won’t respect you.
Jason Cole wrote the book. It’s about Elway, not by him.
The article pointed a much more damning finger at his talent than his personality.
I find the general Tebow hate fascinating. I’m not religious but lots of people were and are offended about how open he was about his beliefs. Downright hated him for it.
Except Osteen is more accurate.
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that a famous person would exploit their name to profit from speaking fees. Unheard of.
I find the general Tebow hate fascinating. I’m not religious but lots of people were and are offended about how open he was about his beliefs. Downright hated him for it.
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that a famous person would exploit their name to profit from speaking fees. Unheard of.
I find the general Tebow hate fascinating. I’m not religious but lots of people were and are offended about how open he was about his beliefs. Downright hated him for it.
I disliked him due to his constant proselytizing. Also being Christian seemed to be his dominant personality trait. I generally dislike people that base their personality and life around one defining thing. Just very shallow. That being said, he seems like for the most part he walks the walk (heard stories about him not being a virgin for instance)
I would say the vast majority of people in the NFL, and generally in the world, tend to be decent people. Most of them aren't raping women, pointing guns at a pregnant woman's stomach etc. And a lot of NFL players do extensive charity work. His extra attention due to being evangelical, while being a tremendously shitty football player outside of college and people saying he just had a magical quality about him, is a bit annoying. He's a handsome, white, evangelical guy who used that to his advantage. It turns out he's human. I think it's perfectly rational to call it what it is.
And also, that's quite an assumption to think that people that have a problem with him, don't have a problem with the aforementioned rapists. Bold. :)
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I will say one thing about Tebow. Those that have an irrational dislike for him: it says a lot about the people who dislike him than it does about Tebow. All the pieces of shit in the NFL, and this is the guy you have a problem with? By all accounts he is a good man, and he does quite a bit of charity work. But I guess he’s never raped a woman, or pointed a gun at a pregnant woman’s stomach.
And also, that's quite an assumption to think that people that have a problem with him, don't have a problem with the aforementioned rapists. Bold. :)
What good does it do you to hate someone you don’t know? What has he done wrong to you? I’m sure he is more athletic, has more money, etc. than you. You sound like a jealous, bitter woman.
Whenever sports coverage goes over the top, there's a lot of backlash
Comes across as self-absorbed with a big ego. Not attractive qualities
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After all, I saw him kneeling in the end zone so he couldn't be.
Comes across as self-absorbed with a big ego. Not attractive qualities
Whenever sports coverage goes over the top, there's a lot of backlash
Shocking that you would say this
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After all, I saw him kneeling in the end zone so he couldn't be.
Comes across as self-absorbed with a big ego. Not attractive qualities
Rare qualities for a famous football player,
Very true. But still not attractive and why I’m not a fan of Brady as well. And not sure self absorbed and egotistic match the values he espouses. I.e., he seems like a bit of a phony
It’s ok not to like him but the venom does seem to be over the top in some cases
He only has a canon arm compared to Joel Osteen. But Osteen can probably hit a change up better.
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of Tebow seemed to be less about him and more about the coverage of him by the Media.
Whenever sports coverage goes over the top, there's a lot of backlash
Shocking that you would say this
Shocking?? Are you going to derail another thread with your pontification? Since you have your pulse on the public, tell us that the Media going over the top to laud a mediocre QB didn't cause some backlash??
Same thing we've seen come into play with other mediocre QB's like Manziel, established QB's like Cam, and publicity stunts that centered around the Brett Favre and LeBron James when they were changing teams and it became a huge Media event.
There is such a thing as an authorized biography. It's not clear to me from that NY Post story whether Elway had approved it. Normally he wouldn't have approval over a book like this, even if he sat for interviews. Usually people do that because it's better to have the writer hear your version of events and not just rely on what other people say about you.
The greed and ego are one thing. The lack of discipline and preparation, and the ineffectiveness on the field, are another.
I dislike Tebow because the Mets signed him, which was lame and embarrassing. He he has been a terrible player but sucked up attention and took a roster spot that would have been better used on a real prospect. As a football player, he just bored me. Overhyped, not very good, and quickly flamed out because he was too arrogant to either excel as a QB or switch positions. He wanted to succeed his way and his way only, and everybody had to adapt to him.
That's not the world. It's sure not the NFL.
I don't hate Tebow, rationally or irrationally. I just want him to go live his life, go preach or run for office or run a company -- away from my baseball team and out of the public eye until he does something really good.
The greed and ego are one thing. The lack of discipline and preparation, and the ineffectiveness on the field, are another.
I dislike Tebow because the Mets signed him, which was lame and embarrassing. He he has been a terrible player but sucked up attention and took a roster spot that would have been better used on a real prospect. As a football player, he just bored me. Overhyped, not very good, and quickly flamed out because he was too arrogant to either excel as a QB or switch positions. He wanted to succeed his way and his way only, and everybody had to adapt to him.
That's not the world. It's sure not the NFL.
I don't hate Tebow, rationally or irrationally. I just want him to go live his life, go preach or run for office or run a company -- away from my baseball team and out of the public eye until he does something really good.
A real prospect? Please enlighten me as to what big time OF prospect the Mets have that he has been holding back?
He just wasn’t good enough, nothing unprofessional at all about not being good enough to play in the NFL. Skipping meetings, blowing off practice, and treating teammates like shit are unprofessional traits/characteristics.
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It said he requested. A simple “no thank you” takes care of just about anything I don’t want in life.
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It said he requested. A simple “no thank you” takes care of just about anything I don’t want in life.
If he was a virgin before he ain't one now lol
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I will say one thing about Tebow. Those that have an irrational dislike for him: it says a lot about the people who dislike him than it does about Tebow. All the pieces of shit in the NFL, and this is the guy you have a problem with? By all accounts he is a good man, and he does quite a bit of charity work. But I guess he’s never raped a woman, or pointed a gun at a pregnant woman’s stomach.
And also, that's quite an assumption to think that people that have a problem with him, don't have a problem with the aforementioned rapists. Bold. :)
What good does it do you to hate someone you don’t know? What has he done wrong to you? I’m sure he is more athletic, has more money, etc. than you. You sound like a jealous, bitter woman.
I sound like a bitter, jealous woman? I was saying why I think people feel the way they do about him. I don’t hate him. Just trying to have a rational conversation about it. You made a lot of assumptions and I’m offering what I thought was a reasonable response. Why make it so personal?
Whenever sports coverage goes over the top, there's a lot of backlash
Yeah. Deifying these guys is always crazy.
Huh? So the sole reason some people don't like him is because of his religious beliefs? I don't buy that. I don't have an opinion on Tebow @ all, but I'm sure people can dislike him for reasons unrelated to religion. Like, if you're a Steelers fan that lose that playoff game to him when he was the Broncos QB? I'm sure they exist.
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because he has religious beliefs and that is all it is.
Huh? So the sole reason some people don't like him is because of his religious beliefs? I don't buy that. I don't have an opinion on Tebow @ all, but I'm sure people can dislike him for reasons unrelated to religion. Like, if you're a Steelers fan that lose that playoff game to him when he was the Broncos QB? I'm sure they exist.
I believe it. I’m not sure why it’s a trigger but people seem to get bent out of shape if others make their beliefs known overtly. I recall here there were disparaging comments about the prayer circle after games and there was mockery over the guy (whose name I can’t recall) who was assigned to NFL Europe in Amsterdam and left because some of the cultural differences were disturbing to him from a faith basis.
Pretty much everyone id quirky but I do think religion, mainly Christianity, is a red flag.
He just wasn’t good enough, nothing unprofessional at all about not being good enough to play in the NFL. Skipping meetings, blowing off practice, and treating teammates like shit are unprofessional traits/characteristics.
“As one teammate put it bluntly that season,” Cole wrote, “‘He has no idea what’s going on out there. If the first read doesn’t work, he’s just making it up.'”
But from a pure player development perspective, every at bat, every chance, every minute of batting practice was wasted on him. They might as well have been giving those reps to my dead grandmother. They would have been better off spending the roster space and opportunities on literally any other player in their system, even if they weren't top prospects.
Again, I don't hate Tebow. I'd be happy for him if the Yankees picked him up. But the Yankees don't do that kind of lame shit.