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NFT: Tried to Negotiate Sunday Ticket - Didn't go Well. Options??

FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 4:01 pm
So I called AT& T today to get better pricing for the Sunday Ticket and I started by saying that I wanted to cancel the ticket.

The cheery customer service woman said "OK. I'll take that off your account. Why do you want to cancel". I said doing the math, the price comes out to just under $400 and with other people getting deals for $200 and less, I felt that I was getting the short end of the stick. She responded by saying, "we do offer 6 payments, so you don't have to pay it all at once" and while I told her I understood, it still was $400 while others are paying far less.

Bottom line, the ticket was cancelled. I did get a retention offer to stay with DirectTV with $45 a month taken off the bill, so I'm saving over $500 a year on my current monthly price, but no ticket.

Question - sort of the same as the one in the thread below about streaming on the computer - what are my options to watch giants games? I'm just thinking I'll Reddit stream them like I do when out of the country - I won't have the discipline to wait until after the game is over to use GamePass. Any cheap ways to get the Red Zone channel?
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Not worth it. Especially with RedZone.  
Route 9 : 9/12/2020 5:01 pm : link
2016 I just started focusing on the Giants. Since they started sucking ass since 2017, focusing on them and watching 70% of Giant games is still a sincere effort.
DirecTV Gave Me Sunday Ticket Max For Free Without Asking For 2020  
Trainmaster : 9/12/2020 5:17 pm : link
Not sure why., but I’ll take it. I’ve had DirecTV since around 2005, so maybe a customer loyalty thing.

When I was haggling with them in prior years, I did best when I immediately threatened to cancel DirecTV completely. I’d get transferred from “Bob in Bombay” to someone in the US with authority to make deals.



You can get it now for $200 without an .edu email address  
Shockwave : 9/12/2020 5:38 pm : link
In past years I have used my .edu email address. Then a couple years ago they started to not even confirm that I had one. All I had to do was check a box stating it was an .edu discount or something. Even this year they renewed it without my permission, I canceled it last night actually. I have lost pretty much all interest in football after being diehard fan for 40+ years.
There aren't real great options, IMO  
BH28 : 9/12/2020 5:45 pm : link
1. Gamepass with a VPN is probably the best. If it thinks you are in different country you can watch live.

2. Random streams on the internet

Depending on what your viewing expectations are, I find neither of them are up to snuff if you are trying to stream to your TV. The quality just isn't there. If you are trying to stream from a computer screen it might be passable.

Being an out of local market fan, I have come to live with Directv being the only option until their contract is up.

A hail mary option would be anyone who lives local to NY who has you tube TV. If they add you to their YouTube network, you will be able to watch youtubeTV with local channels including giants. The only catch is that it will only work for a piece of the season because it will require you to log in from your local area about every 3 months.
RE: Lippy  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/12/2020 5:45 pm : link
In comment 14968268 gidiefor said:
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you better get me a sammich

Sorry that you and your sweetie got the Covid -- that sux -- but you are not off the hook for my sammich


Gidie,

We'd love to see you for a sammich. I'd love to introduce you to her. She's awesome and took me to a Giant's game last year. I got the seal of approval from BB26
FMIC  
DCPollaro : 9/12/2020 5:48 pm : link
your son just started college right??
you can get sunday ticket as a result (stream only for $99)

see link below.. now get me his roomates name/email so i can register too! sad we dont know anyone in college right now!
Link - ( New Window )
I would try another call  
SimpleMan : 9/12/2020 6:13 pm : link
but start off the entire thing with "Cancel service." Just keep saying cancel service until you get someone on the phone. This person will be in the Loyalty Department. This is where you get the deals. It is hit or miss and my understanding is that these people can give out a certain number of deals in their work week, so the timing with getting the right person matters. I got the Ticket Max on my first call this year. If you are friendly they will even chat it up and help you out - the girl I spoke with reminded me to call back in October when my current $50 off per month expires and said I can get a new offer.

Some years I have had to call 3-4 times, but eventually they will throw you a bone.
RE: FMIC  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 6:17 pm : link
In comment 14968282 DCPollaro said:
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your son just started college right??
you can get sunday ticket as a result (stream only for $99)

see link below.. now get me his roomates name/email so i can register too! sad we dont know anyone in college right now! Link - ( New Window )


DC - I can do that for you!! Let me check it out. I have a son and daughter at college, so I can get you my daughter's email/name if it works.

Thanks!
RE: I would try another call  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 6:18 pm : link
In comment 14968289 SimpleMan said:
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but start off the entire thing with "Cancel service." Just keep saying cancel service until you get someone on the phone. This person will be in the Loyalty Department. This is where you get the deals. It is hit or miss and my understanding is that these people can give out a certain number of deals in their work week, so the timing with getting the right person matters. I got the Ticket Max on my first call this year. If you are friendly they will even chat it up and help you out - the girl I spoke with reminded me to call back in October when my current $50 off per month expires and said I can get a new offer.

Some years I have had to call 3-4 times, but eventually they will throw you a bone.


I got a good deal. I always go to "Customer Retention" - which is what I did. Getting $45 off a month is actually pretty damn good. It comes at the expense of the ticket, but we'll see what workarounds exist.
RE: RE: FMIC  
DCPollaro : 9/12/2020 6:40 pm : link
In comment 14968290 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14968282 DCPollaro said:


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your son just started college right??
you can get sunday ticket as a result (stream only for $99)

see link below.. now get me his roomates name/email so i can register too! sad we dont know anyone in college right now! Link - ( New Window )



DC - I can do that for you!! Let me check it out. I have a son and daughter at college, so I can get you my daughter's email/name if it works.

Thanks!

That would be great! Thanks!
You can legit stream every game except...  
vonritz : 9/12/2020 6:43 pm : link
CBS games if you use a VPN and have a cable account. Simply log in to a NY site and then go to the Fox web page and stream.
Dean..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 6:53 pm : link
I'll probably Facebook message you the info
Let me get this straight  
Stan in LA : 9/12/2020 7:34 pm : link
They offered you $500 credit on you bill and ST is only $400? Seems to me if you take the deal and buy ST you are getting ST for FREE plus $100 extra to spend on hookers.

I've seen worse deals...
RE: RE: I would try another call  
Stan in LA : 9/12/2020 7:38 pm : link
In comment 14968291 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14968289 SimpleMan said:


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but start off the entire thing with "Cancel service." Just keep saying cancel service until you get someone on the phone. This person will be in the Loyalty Department. This is where you get the deals. It is hit or miss and my understanding is that these people can give out a certain number of deals in their work week, so the timing with getting the right person matters. I got the Ticket Max on my first call this year. If you are friendly they will even chat it up and help you out - the girl I spoke with reminded me to call back in October when my current $50 off per month expires and said I can get a new offer.

Some years I have had to call 3-4 times, but eventually they will throw you a bone.



I got a good deal. I always go to "Customer Retention" - which is what I did. Getting $45 off a month is actually pretty damn good. It comes at the expense of the ticket, but we'll see what workarounds exist.


Why? You can still buy the ticket and you have the $45 a month to pay for it. What am I missing?
I had the option of the student ticket for 3 years for 100 bucks  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2020 7:43 pm : link
which was fantastic. Not sure why they just don't widely offer that and make a deal with advertisers for national commercials. Seems like a no brainer to me. The market for something like that would be huge.
I've heard ExpressVPN cycles through ip addresses until they are  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2020 7:46 pm : link
caught, and then they'll make a new one on request. Read that on Reddit somewhere. Not sure how valid it is, anyone have any input there? I have youtube tv and would love this option.
I've never been successful trying to fool my Smart TV or YTTV  
PatersonPlank : 9/12/2020 8:23 pm : link
they are too smart now. However it works fine on a PC, so fooling GamePass is easy.
I have a different take on the price of  
bluesince56 : 9/12/2020 8:33 pm : link
Sunday Ticket. $400.00 gives you access to more than just the Giants games. I live Giants football. I had season tickets when I lived in NYC. Besides the cost of the ticket, tolls,gas, and parking. It was almost $300.00. Not to mention food and beer. Living in South Fla I don’t get all the games. Even if I get five I still consider what it would cost to go to a game. Also, I have the luxury of watching other games. I tried the bar route. Expensive and you take the chance of a DWi.
RE: I've heard ExpressVPN cycles through ip addresses until they are  
BH28 : 9/12/2020 8:37 pm : link
In comment 14968346 Zeke's Alibi said:
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caught, and then they'll make a new one on request. Read that on Reddit somewhere. Not sure how valid it is, anyone have any input there? I have youtube tv and would love this option.


I have not tried, but I have read that a static IP address installed on the router works. You might have to switch to nord vpn since they offer static IP option.

Alternatively, I might try this...theoretically, if you have an old phone or tablet, you could log into your youtube TV account and mail the device to a friend and/or family member in NYC area. If they log into youtubeTV in the NYC viewing area, it should reset the out of area timer and you should be able to get the local channels for giants games. They could keep the device at their place and just log in every time you get requested to verify your area.
RE: Dean..  
robbieballs2003 : 9/12/2020 8:40 pm : link
In comment 14968310 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I'll probably Facebook message you the info


Bad move. I wouldn't trust Dean with your daughter's info. Haha.
I tried to get it for less than $400 just the other day  
mpinmaine : 9/12/2020 8:44 pm : link
She couldn't (or wouldn't) but did give me $45 a month off my package for a full year for simply asking for something.
That more than offsets the ticket (will save $540 and spend $400 for NFL)
It is odd that so many have different results with them.
Last year I paid $300...who knows..??

She told me she thought next season will be the last year they offer it FWIW.
I have been a customer for 5 years.
I do not get red zone etc.
Being in Maine it is a must.

Just like I tell my wife..it's 3 hrs x 16 games=48 hrs I get a year to not be bothered. Sorry Giants games are sacred.
College discount Sunday ticket option was great  
Giantimistic : 9/12/2020 9:08 pm : link
I was able to get the $99 student discount when I did my masters degree part time.

After that I went express vpn and gamepass Europe. If you can do the streaming direct tv college that is the way to go.
RE: RE: Dean..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 9:30 pm : link
In comment 14968370 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 14968310 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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I'll probably Facebook message you the info



Bad move. I wouldn't trust Dean with your daughter's info. Haha.


He's a married man now, and he's a fellow Pisano. I have people to keep that in line:)
Ipad to a projector  
56n11bestever : 9/12/2020 9:31 pm : link
Why does the NFL apps block you from using an HDMI cable from an IPAD to a projector? For Thursday Night Football I had to use the NBC app to get the stream to a projector.

Does anyone have apps that they use for the Giants Games?
I would like to watch the games outside with a few friends to simulate tailgating.
I got if off Ebay for $25 the max version as well  
DaddyM89 : 9/12/2020 9:31 pm : link
Used the guy for MLB tv package this year as well he's legit.
Strangely enough, I got a phone call from them around last  
carpoon : 9/12/2020 9:36 pm : link
March or April telling me I am getting Sunday Ticket free this year. I asked why and it is because I have been with them since 1998. I haven't had Sunday Ticket in at least 10 years. It is funny because I am planning on watching Giant games only this season.
Fatman  
steve in ky : 9/12/2020 9:45 pm : link
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- I won't have the discipline to wait until after the game is over to use GamePass


I lost my NY CBS/FOX this year so I got GamePass, and your thought is what I’m most worried about. But I want to be able to watch it on my TV, and through my PS4 this seemed like the best option for me. I still have to decide if I’m going to listen to the radio feed live(which is also part of (GP), and then watch afterwards, or just force myself to wait and watch. It won’t be easy, but seems like the best alternative for me. Good luck with finding your best solution.
Anyone can get the college gamepass from AT&T  
Dennis From Madison : 9/12/2020 9:53 pm : link
All you need is the ability to do a little independent research. I have no one in college, and got it for $80 + tax this year.

I did the ebay thing for a couple of years until I got screwed by a seller last year and missed much of the first game I tried using it. That's when I discovered an easy way to qualify by researching college athletes.

I don't like Reddit streams unless I am out of the country and am desperate. I don't want to sit in front of the computer, or worry about a drop out and reconnecting all the time.
by college gamepass  
Dennis From Madison : 9/12/2020 9:54 pm : link
I meant NFL Sunday Ticket U.
BTW - this was $20 discount code for this year:  
Dennis From Madison : 9/12/2020 9:56 pm : link
TEAMHUDDLE
I negotiated the same deal I have gotten over the last several  
LBH15 : 9/12/2020 10:49 pm : link
years. $60-$80 discount per month off programming and NFL Sunday Ticket free for season. Keeps bill basically the same and can watch the Giants and all the games free of charge.

They probably think you are dickhead when you talk to them so not surprised you got the shaft. Maybe curse at them less or stop typing "LOL" as sarcasm.
Didn't really..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 11:01 pm : link
get the shaft since I lowered my bill by $45 a month.

But you'd have to pick up those pesky details by exhibiting reading comprehension....
I called  
mitch300 : 9/13/2020 2:44 am : link
And was transferred to the loyalty department. I got 45 dollars off my bill for 1 year. So I am paying 298 for the ticket. But getting 540 savings off my bill for the year. So, I am getting paid 242 dollars at the end to watch my Giants.
I got an email saying it was free this year  
halfback20 : 9/13/2020 5:05 am : link
so i didn't have to call and argue
I also received an email saying I was getting it for free this year  
Chiefgiant : 9/13/2020 8:07 am : link
Haven’t ordered it in about 5 years. Not sure how they select who to give it to.
RE: Didn't really..  
LBH15 : 9/13/2020 8:25 am : link
In comment 14968419 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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get the shaft since I lowered my bill by $45 a month.

But you'd have to pick up those pesky details by exhibiting reading comprehension....


Read your own thread title.

At least you can put your monthly savings to purchasing the Ticket or your sports bar tabs. Have fun...whoops, I mean LOL.
FMiC  
EricJ : 9/13/2020 8:28 am : link
just go to a bar... $400 divided by 8 games = enough to sit there and have some wings + something cold to drink. Plus this Monday's game is on national TV so that one is free.
i have a kid in college  
markky : 9/13/2020 8:36 am : link
so I bought the Sunday Ticket U. less than $100.
RE: I also received an email saying I was getting it for free this year  
PatersonPlank : 9/13/2020 8:57 am : link
In comment 14968450 Chiefgiant said:
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Haven’t ordered it in about 5 years. Not sure how they select who to give it to.


I think it has something to do with how much you've paid. Do you the top of the line package? Over years the $$ add up
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FatMan in Charlotte : 9/13/2020 9:09 am : link
In comment 14968455 LBH15 said:
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In comment 14968419 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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get the shaft since I lowered my bill by $45 a month.

But you'd have to pick up those pesky details by exhibiting reading comprehension....



Read your own thread title.

At least you can put your monthly savings to purchasing the Ticket or your sports bar tabs. Have fun...whoops, I mean LOL.


Now you are just trying too hard. And the irony will be dripping the next time you say "that Googs guy must have gotten under your skin, huh".
neat and warming, really,  
ColHowPepper : 9/13/2020 9:14 am : link
reading how the heart beats quicken between and among the BBI oldtimers...got here toward tail end of the glory years and Albany Camp indulgences...blew my one op with Bruce in Sedona but the family was kind of, really? Nuts.
Unless they..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/13/2020 9:22 am : link
are armed with a bag of tater tots, everyone blows their op with Bruce:)
RE: RE: I also received an email saying I was getting it for free this year  
Chiefgiant : 9/13/2020 9:29 am : link
In comment 14968466 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 14968450 Chiefgiant said:


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Haven’t ordered it in about 5 years. Not sure how they select who to give it to.



I think it has something to do with how much you've paid. Do you the top of the line package? Over years the $$ add up


Not top of line and I even cancelled HBO/Cinemax about a year ago. But they certainly have made their money off me over the years.
FMiC  
ColHowPepper : 9/13/2020 9:51 am : link
there is this soft, sweet side of you so often overshadowed during your rants at the less fortunate (<:
I too canceled DTV and Sunday ticket  
pjcas18 : 9/13/2020 9:57 am : link
a few years ago once my youngest started playing club level hockey and we traveled almost every single Sunday.

So for the rare Sundays I was home - someone on here suggested a way to watch games each week that was more reliable than streams.

And referenced above - Sunday Game Pass and VPN.

The NFL Sunday Game Pass streams real time (all games) on a per season or per week basis for non US residents. For a fee.

So, first you get a VPN. I used one called Private Internet Access (PIA). That is about $6 per month IIRC.

Then you start your VPN and set your location to be a country in Europe (could probably be anywhere i guess). I used UK or France usually.

Once you are connected via VPN then go to NFL website and you will notice it has a .eu on the end and the site looks a little different and you can sign up for NFL Game pass - I think it was $22 per week. But it lasts for two Sundays.

Anyway, once connected you can watch any game on your computer.

I connected a Chrome Cast so I was able to watch on my TV from my computer.

Worked great and made far more sense to me than spending a few hundred on the Sunday Ticket when I might be home 3 or 4 sundays - not counting the weeks where the Giants played at night or were otherwise my national game.

RE: RE: RE: Didn't really..  
LBH15 : 9/13/2020 10:37 am : link
In comment 14968471 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14968455 LBH15 said:


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In comment 14968419 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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get the shaft since I lowered my bill by $45 a month.

But you'd have to pick up those pesky details by exhibiting reading comprehension....



Read your own thread title.

At least you can put your monthly savings to purchasing the Ticket or your sports bar tabs. Have fun...whoops, I mean LOL.



Now you are just trying too hard. And the irony will be dripping the next time you say "that Googs guy must have gotten under your skin, huh".


He clearly did.
RE: Thanks FMiC  
djm : 9/13/2020 11:28 am : link
In comment 14968259 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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It's been a rough year. I got Covid and resulted in a broken back due to the after effects. My girlfriend got it too and the after effects are making her miserable. I'm just waiting 2020 out like the rest. Otherwise busy with work and a new home.

As far as watching games I have Verizon and they stream limited games on the phone so I watch at work. Everything else is Reddit streams. The gamepass would be great for me.

I hope you and your family are well

LiP





Don't forget my $900


Fuck dude sorry to hear. Hang in there.
Going the student-discount route  
TXRabbit : 9/13/2020 1:06 pm : link
My daughter's a student so I can sub to the app for $100. My laptop is running Windows 10 which has a screen-cast feature built in. I'll cast it to my Roku connected to my TV. There's almost 0 latency and as long as my internet connection remains solid, I'm good to go
Fat Man  
Producer : 9/13/2020 1:15 pm : link
Last season I got a VPN, set it to Indonesia, and got the NFL Game Pass for like $120. Worked really well. It isn't the full US Game Pass but it was every game.
RE: BTW - this was $20 discount code for this year:  
ZogZerg : 9/13/2020 4:25 pm : link
In comment 14968394 Dennis From Madison said:
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TEAMHUDDLE


Thanks!!
Used the code and am watching redzone and games.

Also gave code to someone else so saved 40 bucks!
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