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NFT: Tried to Negotiate Sunday Ticket - Didn't go Well. Options??

FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 4:01 pm
So I called AT& T today to get better pricing for the Sunday Ticket and I started by saying that I wanted to cancel the ticket.

The cheery customer service woman said "OK. I'll take that off your account. Why do you want to cancel". I said doing the math, the price comes out to just under $400 and with other people getting deals for $200 and less, I felt that I was getting the short end of the stick. She responded by saying, "we do offer 6 payments, so you don't have to pay it all at once" and while I told her I understood, it still was $400 while others are paying far less.

Bottom line, the ticket was cancelled. I did get a retention offer to stay with DirectTV with $45 a month taken off the bill, so I'm saving over $500 a year on my current monthly price, but no ticket.

Question - sort of the same as the one in the thread below about streaming on the computer - what are my options to watch giants games? I'm just thinking I'll Reddit stream them like I do when out of the country - I won't have the discipline to wait until after the game is over to use GamePass. Any cheap ways to get the Red Zone channel?
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Sunday Ticket is not  
section125 : 9/12/2020 4:05 pm : link
worth the money. It is just not. $400 for few games is just ridiculous and why I dropped it.
I agree..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 4:09 pm : link
which is why I didn't fight it. I mean, for the times we play and it isn't on, I can pay for an Uber to go to a bar or friends house and still come out on top.

It went pretty well outside of losing the ticket. Didn't have to pay $400 and saved over $500. A $900 swing.
FMiC  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/12/2020 4:26 pm : link
Don't forget that $900 you owe me
RE: FMiC  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14968251 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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Don't forget that $900 you owe me


Larry!! Great to hear from you
Streaming is probably the way to go  
moespree : 9/12/2020 4:31 pm : link
But the quality is not going to be all that good on most of them and some of the streams will likely fail, or be filled with endless spam.

We're all going to have to wait out Directv losing the ticket which seems like it is likely to happen. NFL is supposedly interested in making it non-exclusive which opens it up to multiple sources all of which will lower the price significantly. One of the rumors even is Amazon may only charge $4.99 a month for it if you are already a Prime subscriber.
Thanks FMiC  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/12/2020 4:33 pm : link
It's been a rough year. I got Covid and resulted in a broken back due to the after effects. My girlfriend got it too and the after effects are making her miserable. I'm just waiting 2020 out like the rest. Otherwise busy with work and a new home.

As far as watching games I have Verizon and they stream limited games on the phone so I watch at work. Everything else is Reddit streams. The gamepass would be great for me.

I hope you and your family are well

LiP





Don't forget my $900
Larry..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 4:37 pm : link
sorry to hear the troubles, but glad that you're hanging in there. Just sent my youngest off to college yesterday, which with all the shit going on in 2020 is filled with angst on how that will go, but so far my family has remained safe and healthy.

I'll put the $900 in the mail - but you know how those pesky rumors about the USPS are......
And thanks..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 4:38 pm : link
for mentioning the Verizon option. I'll check that out
I dropped Sunday Ticket  
Gman11 : 9/12/2020 4:46 pm : link
like a hot potato. I can go to a bar, have a couple of beers, a couple slices of pizza and it still won't cost as much as Sunday Ticket.
yeah I tossed Sunday ticket and Directv right with it  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/12/2020 4:51 pm : link
I hate AT&T
Holy shit larry  
mattlawson : 9/12/2020 4:51 pm : link
My apologies.

Regarding the ticket invest your money instead.
Lippy  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/12/2020 4:53 pm : link
you better get me a sammich

Sorry that you and your sweetie got the Covid -- that sux -- but you are not off the hook for my sammich
Not worth it. Especially with RedZone.  
Route 9 : 9/12/2020 5:01 pm : link
2016 I just started focusing on the Giants. Since they started sucking ass since 2017, focusing on them and watching 70% of Giant games is still a sincere effort.
DirecTV Gave Me Sunday Ticket Max For Free Without Asking For 2020  
Trainmaster : 9/12/2020 5:17 pm : link
Not sure why., but I’ll take it. I’ve had DirecTV since around 2005, so maybe a customer loyalty thing.

When I was haggling with them in prior years, I did best when I immediately threatened to cancel DirecTV completely. I’d get transferred from “Bob in Bombay” to someone in the US with authority to make deals.



You can get it now for $200 without an .edu email address  
Shockwave : 9/12/2020 5:38 pm : link
In past years I have used my .edu email address. Then a couple years ago they started to not even confirm that I had one. All I had to do was check a box stating it was an .edu discount or something. Even this year they renewed it without my permission, I canceled it last night actually. I have lost pretty much all interest in football after being diehard fan for 40+ years.
There aren't real great options, IMO  
BH28 : 9/12/2020 5:45 pm : link
1. Gamepass with a VPN is probably the best. If it thinks you are in different country you can watch live.

2. Random streams on the internet

Depending on what your viewing expectations are, I find neither of them are up to snuff if you are trying to stream to your TV. The quality just isn't there. If you are trying to stream from a computer screen it might be passable.

Being an out of local market fan, I have come to live with Directv being the only option until their contract is up.

A hail mary option would be anyone who lives local to NY who has you tube TV. If they add you to their YouTube network, you will be able to watch youtubeTV with local channels including giants. The only catch is that it will only work for a piece of the season because it will require you to log in from your local area about every 3 months.
RE: Lippy  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/12/2020 5:45 pm : link
In comment 14968268 gidiefor said:
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you better get me a sammich

Sorry that you and your sweetie got the Covid -- that sux -- but you are not off the hook for my sammich


Gidie,

We'd love to see you for a sammich. I'd love to introduce you to her. She's awesome and took me to a Giant's game last year. I got the seal of approval from BB26
FMIC  
DCPollaro : 9/12/2020 5:48 pm : link
your son just started college right??
you can get sunday ticket as a result (stream only for $99)

see link below.. now get me his roomates name/email so i can register too! sad we dont know anyone in college right now!
Link - ( New Window )
I would try another call  
SimpleMan : 9/12/2020 6:13 pm : link
but start off the entire thing with "Cancel service." Just keep saying cancel service until you get someone on the phone. This person will be in the Loyalty Department. This is where you get the deals. It is hit or miss and my understanding is that these people can give out a certain number of deals in their work week, so the timing with getting the right person matters. I got the Ticket Max on my first call this year. If you are friendly they will even chat it up and help you out - the girl I spoke with reminded me to call back in October when my current $50 off per month expires and said I can get a new offer.

Some years I have had to call 3-4 times, but eventually they will throw you a bone.
RE: FMIC  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 6:17 pm : link
In comment 14968282 DCPollaro said:
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your son just started college right??
you can get sunday ticket as a result (stream only for $99)

see link below.. now get me his roomates name/email so i can register too! sad we dont know anyone in college right now! Link - ( New Window )


DC - I can do that for you!! Let me check it out. I have a son and daughter at college, so I can get you my daughter's email/name if it works.

Thanks!
RE: I would try another call  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 6:18 pm : link
In comment 14968289 SimpleMan said:
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but start off the entire thing with "Cancel service." Just keep saying cancel service until you get someone on the phone. This person will be in the Loyalty Department. This is where you get the deals. It is hit or miss and my understanding is that these people can give out a certain number of deals in their work week, so the timing with getting the right person matters. I got the Ticket Max on my first call this year. If you are friendly they will even chat it up and help you out - the girl I spoke with reminded me to call back in October when my current $50 off per month expires and said I can get a new offer.

Some years I have had to call 3-4 times, but eventually they will throw you a bone.


I got a good deal. I always go to "Customer Retention" - which is what I did. Getting $45 off a month is actually pretty damn good. It comes at the expense of the ticket, but we'll see what workarounds exist.
RE: RE: FMIC  
DCPollaro : 9/12/2020 6:40 pm : link
In comment 14968290 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14968282 DCPollaro said:


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your son just started college right??
you can get sunday ticket as a result (stream only for $99)

see link below.. now get me his roomates name/email so i can register too! sad we dont know anyone in college right now! Link - ( New Window )



DC - I can do that for you!! Let me check it out. I have a son and daughter at college, so I can get you my daughter's email/name if it works.

Thanks!

That would be great! Thanks!
You can legit stream every game except...  
vonritz : 9/12/2020 6:43 pm : link
CBS games if you use a VPN and have a cable account. Simply log in to a NY site and then go to the Fox web page and stream.
Dean..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 6:53 pm : link
I'll probably Facebook message you the info
Let me get this straight  
Stan in LA : 9/12/2020 7:34 pm : link
They offered you $500 credit on you bill and ST is only $400? Seems to me if you take the deal and buy ST you are getting ST for FREE plus $100 extra to spend on hookers.

I've seen worse deals...
RE: RE: I would try another call  
Stan in LA : 9/12/2020 7:38 pm : link
In comment 14968291 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14968289 SimpleMan said:


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but start off the entire thing with "Cancel service." Just keep saying cancel service until you get someone on the phone. This person will be in the Loyalty Department. This is where you get the deals. It is hit or miss and my understanding is that these people can give out a certain number of deals in their work week, so the timing with getting the right person matters. I got the Ticket Max on my first call this year. If you are friendly they will even chat it up and help you out - the girl I spoke with reminded me to call back in October when my current $50 off per month expires and said I can get a new offer.

Some years I have had to call 3-4 times, but eventually they will throw you a bone.



I got a good deal. I always go to "Customer Retention" - which is what I did. Getting $45 off a month is actually pretty damn good. It comes at the expense of the ticket, but we'll see what workarounds exist.


Why? You can still buy the ticket and you have the $45 a month to pay for it. What am I missing?
I had the option of the student ticket for 3 years for 100 bucks  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2020 7:43 pm : link
which was fantastic. Not sure why they just don't widely offer that and make a deal with advertisers for national commercials. Seems like a no brainer to me. The market for something like that would be huge.
I've heard ExpressVPN cycles through ip addresses until they are  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2020 7:46 pm : link
caught, and then they'll make a new one on request. Read that on Reddit somewhere. Not sure how valid it is, anyone have any input there? I have youtube tv and would love this option.
I've never been successful trying to fool my Smart TV or YTTV  
PatersonPlank : 9/12/2020 8:23 pm : link
they are too smart now. However it works fine on a PC, so fooling GamePass is easy.
I have a different take on the price of  
bluesince56 : 9/12/2020 8:33 pm : link
Sunday Ticket. $400.00 gives you access to more than just the Giants games. I live Giants football. I had season tickets when I lived in NYC. Besides the cost of the ticket, tolls,gas, and parking. It was almost $300.00. Not to mention food and beer. Living in South Fla I don’t get all the games. Even if I get five I still consider what it would cost to go to a game. Also, I have the luxury of watching other games. I tried the bar route. Expensive and you take the chance of a DWi.
RE: I've heard ExpressVPN cycles through ip addresses until they are  
BH28 : 9/12/2020 8:37 pm : link
In comment 14968346 Zeke's Alibi said:
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caught, and then they'll make a new one on request. Read that on Reddit somewhere. Not sure how valid it is, anyone have any input there? I have youtube tv and would love this option.


I have not tried, but I have read that a static IP address installed on the router works. You might have to switch to nord vpn since they offer static IP option.

Alternatively, I might try this...theoretically, if you have an old phone or tablet, you could log into your youtube TV account and mail the device to a friend and/or family member in NYC area. If they log into youtubeTV in the NYC viewing area, it should reset the out of area timer and you should be able to get the local channels for giants games. They could keep the device at their place and just log in every time you get requested to verify your area.
RE: Dean..  
robbieballs2003 : 9/12/2020 8:40 pm : link
In comment 14968310 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I'll probably Facebook message you the info


Bad move. I wouldn't trust Dean with your daughter's info. Haha.
I tried to get it for less than $400 just the other day  
mpinmaine : 9/12/2020 8:44 pm : link
She couldn't (or wouldn't) but did give me $45 a month off my package for a full year for simply asking for something.
That more than offsets the ticket (will save $540 and spend $400 for NFL)
It is odd that so many have different results with them.
Last year I paid $300...who knows..??

She told me she thought next season will be the last year they offer it FWIW.
I have been a customer for 5 years.
I do not get red zone etc.
Being in Maine it is a must.

Just like I tell my wife..it's 3 hrs x 16 games=48 hrs I get a year to not be bothered. Sorry Giants games are sacred.
College discount Sunday ticket option was great  
Giantimistic : 9/12/2020 9:08 pm : link
I was able to get the $99 student discount when I did my masters degree part time.

After that I went express vpn and gamepass Europe. If you can do the streaming direct tv college that is the way to go.
RE: RE: Dean..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 9:30 pm : link
In comment 14968370 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 14968310 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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I'll probably Facebook message you the info



Bad move. I wouldn't trust Dean with your daughter's info. Haha.


He's a married man now, and he's a fellow Pisano. I have people to keep that in line:)
Ipad to a projector  
56n11bestever : 9/12/2020 9:31 pm : link
Why does the NFL apps block you from using an HDMI cable from an IPAD to a projector? For Thursday Night Football I had to use the NBC app to get the stream to a projector.

Does anyone have apps that they use for the Giants Games?
I would like to watch the games outside with a few friends to simulate tailgating.
I got if off Ebay for $25 the max version as well  
DaddyM89 : 9/12/2020 9:31 pm : link
Used the guy for MLB tv package this year as well he's legit.
Strangely enough, I got a phone call from them around last  
carpoon : 9/12/2020 9:36 pm : link
March or April telling me I am getting Sunday Ticket free this year. I asked why and it is because I have been with them since 1998. I haven't had Sunday Ticket in at least 10 years. It is funny because I am planning on watching Giant games only this season.
Fatman  
steve in ky : 9/12/2020 9:45 pm : link
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- I won't have the discipline to wait until after the game is over to use GamePass


I lost my NY CBS/FOX this year so I got GamePass, and your thought is what I’m most worried about. But I want to be able to watch it on my TV, and through my PS4 this seemed like the best option for me. I still have to decide if I’m going to listen to the radio feed live(which is also part of (GP), and then watch afterwards, or just force myself to wait and watch. It won’t be easy, but seems like the best alternative for me. Good luck with finding your best solution.
Anyone can get the college gamepass from AT&T  
Dennis From Madison : 9/12/2020 9:53 pm : link
All you need is the ability to do a little independent research. I have no one in college, and got it for $80 + tax this year.

I did the ebay thing for a couple of years until I got screwed by a seller last year and missed much of the first game I tried using it. That's when I discovered an easy way to qualify by researching college athletes.

I don't like Reddit streams unless I am out of the country and am desperate. I don't want to sit in front of the computer, or worry about a drop out and reconnecting all the time.
by college gamepass  
Dennis From Madison : 9/12/2020 9:54 pm : link
I meant NFL Sunday Ticket U.
BTW - this was $20 discount code for this year:  
Dennis From Madison : 9/12/2020 9:56 pm : link
TEAMHUDDLE
I negotiated the same deal I have gotten over the last several  
LBH15 : 9/12/2020 10:49 pm : link
years. $60-$80 discount per month off programming and NFL Sunday Ticket free for season. Keeps bill basically the same and can watch the Giants and all the games free of charge.

They probably think you are dickhead when you talk to them so not surprised you got the shaft. Maybe curse at them less or stop typing "LOL" as sarcasm.
Didn't really..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/12/2020 11:01 pm : link
get the shaft since I lowered my bill by $45 a month.

But you'd have to pick up those pesky details by exhibiting reading comprehension....
I called  
mitch300 : 9/13/2020 2:44 am : link
And was transferred to the loyalty department. I got 45 dollars off my bill for 1 year. So I am paying 298 for the ticket. But getting 540 savings off my bill for the year. So, I am getting paid 242 dollars at the end to watch my Giants.
I got an email saying it was free this year  
halfback20 : 9/13/2020 5:05 am : link
so i didn't have to call and argue
I also received an email saying I was getting it for free this year  
Chiefgiant : 9/13/2020 8:07 am : link
Haven’t ordered it in about 5 years. Not sure how they select who to give it to.
RE: Didn't really..  
LBH15 : 9/13/2020 8:25 am : link
In comment 14968419 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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get the shaft since I lowered my bill by $45 a month.

But you'd have to pick up those pesky details by exhibiting reading comprehension....


Read your own thread title.

At least you can put your monthly savings to purchasing the Ticket or your sports bar tabs. Have fun...whoops, I mean LOL.
FMiC  
EricJ : 9/13/2020 8:28 am : link
just go to a bar... $400 divided by 8 games = enough to sit there and have some wings + something cold to drink. Plus this Monday's game is on national TV so that one is free.
i have a kid in college  
markky : 9/13/2020 8:36 am : link
so I bought the Sunday Ticket U. less than $100.
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