The football was good today

Maybe 1, maybe 2 games, but I wouldn’t be shocked if it never returns.

It was much ado about nothing.

In comment 14969069 Ben in Tampa said:

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Maybe 1, maybe 2 games, but I wouldn’t be shocked if it never returns. It was much ado about nothing.

It was always about money, almost nothing to do with getting ready for the season. Going to be a hard sell to the owners to turn down 1-2 games worth of revenue and if that happens expect more games added somewhere to compensate.

Much rather just hear the sound of the game. Same goes for MLB and NBA the broadcasters disagree with me 3 for 3.

But yeah the games were good.

In comment 14969075 TJ said:

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Much rather just hear the sound of the game. Same goes for MLB and NBA the broadcasters disagree with me 3 for 3. But yeah the games were good.

I disagree, crowd noise is a big part of football to me. Without it would feel incomplete.

I actually like the noise. It helped distract from that there were no fans in the stands. The play was much better than I expected.

Here's to a great showing by Big Blue and a W tomorrow night.

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In comment 14969075 TJ said:

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Much rather just hear the sound of the game. Same goes for MLB and NBA the broadcasters disagree with me 3 for 3. But yeah the games were good.

Seconded. I like hearing just the game itself more clearly.

A week as I’ve seen in a long time.

The crowd noise is needed imo. And I think for the most part, they did a good job with it.

In comment 14969075 TJ said:

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Much rather just hear the sound of the game. Same goes for MLB and NBA the broadcasters disagree with me 3 for 3. But yeah the games were good.

Don’t mind the noise but not to the point it drowns out the announcers

And not having to see assholes with painted faces and idiotic signs made it more palatable.

I only watch the Giants!

a decade it seems. Me and my buddy can't for the life of me come up with a reason why. Any ideas?

Good post

In comment 14969095 Zeke's Alibi said:

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a decade it seems. Me and my buddy can't for the life of me come up with a reason why. Any ideas?

Maybe the lack of distractions? Most of these guys just trained at home or in small groups waiting for the season. No night clubs, no bars, etc.

Ha. Come on, just stop.

Jesus

Outstanding job by them.

And the broadcasters also were fantastic across the board in an environment that is very different from their norm

I think it needs the noise. It doesn't need to be gimmicky or excessive - but there's gotta be background noise. In a lot of cases, I barely even remember there aren't fans there. Football is shot in a way where the crowd isn't really visible during most plays the way it is in a sport like baseball, where you are staring at all the empty seats behind the plate every pitch. So, it's easy to just focus on the game and you don't really notice the difference.

I think if it were silent in there, it would be way more noticeable and "feel" more empty - which I think would kind of suck the life out.

Anyway - good points re: preseason in this thread. I think we see 2 games going forward. Preseason obviously isn't really needed from a player preparedness angle, but it does matter from a roster building standpoint. I think most teams would prefer to see their bubble guys in live action a bit against other teams to get a better feel for what they have on the backend of their rosters.

So, I don't think the NFL does away with preseason entirely - but I don't see any way they can justify 4 games ever again.

In comment 14969103 arcarsenal said:

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I think it needs the noise. It doesn't need to be gimmicky or excessive - but there's gotta be background noise. In a lot of cases, I barely even remember there aren't fans there. Football is shot in a way where the crowd isn't really visible during most plays the way it is in a sport like baseball, where you are staring at all the empty seats behind the plate every pitch. So, it's easy to just focus on the game and you don't really notice the difference. I think if it were silent in there, it would be way more noticeable and "feel" more empty - which I think would kind of suck the life out. Anyway - good points re: preseason in this thread. I think we see 2 games going forward. Preseason obviously isn't really needed from a player preparedness angle, but it does matter from a roster building standpoint. I think most teams would prefer to see their bubble guys in live action a bit against other teams to get a better feel for what they have on the backend of their rosters. So, I don't think the NFL does away with preseason entirely - but I don't see any way they can justify 4 games ever again.

Agree with this entire post.

Shitty sitcoms couldn't exist without it, but this is NFL football. It wouldn't be silent. You'd just hear more of the players making calls and the collisions, which would make it pretty cool imo.

It's not bad, I just don't think it's necessary. I've been to near empty stadium football games in my life and it's still great.

I think the guys triggering the cheers need some time.

One play that was a 3yrd gain sounded like a touchdown was scored lol

Like the NBA. Better than the cartoon cutouts

Doesn’t look like they missed that. Maybe 2 games max is all they need. Guess it’s all about the money , just as everyone thought.

The piped in noise is fantastic, I barely even notice any difference.

That football was gonna be complete trash this season. Heard that one a lot all summer. I guess we can put that one to bed.

Ps a first year coach (rivera) and second year qb (Haskins) beat the seasoned and stable eagles with all their familiar faces today. Maybe we will put that new coach new team struggling to bed too.

but whoever is doing it for this Sunday night game is a bit off.

Regardless, pretty good football today, although Saints/Bucs got really sloppy and stupid Red Zone wouldn't turn away from it.

In comment 14969135 djm said:

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That football was gonna be complete trash this season. Heard that one a lot all summer. I guess we can put that one to bed. Ps a first year coach (rivera) and second year qb (Haskins) beat the seasoned and stable eagles with all their familiar faces today. Maybe we will put that new coach new team struggling to bed too.

Right, but the issue the Eagles had today was their absolute line was absolutely atrocious going against a top front 7 unit Us and the Steelers have very little to do with Skins and Eagles. The NFC East is trash this year. Not to say we can't win, but it's not very similar.

In comment 14969075 TJ said:

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Much rather just hear the sound of the game. Same goes for MLB and NBA the broadcasters disagree with me 3 for 3. But yeah the games were good.

I think it was a little of both. Most of the time, it blended in really well and made me forget there weren’t people in the stands. The irritating part, most mundane plays, it would always sound like something big happened, when it was just a 2 yard run.

wasn't that big of a shock. Football is a game of a matchups and you had a patchwork OL going up against an elite front 7. Football Team doesn't have a ton going for them...but that front is for real.

The Giants fanbase knows how important a strong OL is as much as anybody...the Eagles will have serious issues until Johnson comes back. Even after that, they're going to need to overcome the loss of Brooks and Peters. Eagles will be in trouble this year.

I disagree with zero fans at the games at this point and I think the crowd is missed, but today felt like the most normal day of my life since around March 10th. Considering what we've all gone through this year, today felt like a typical fall Sunday with our old friend football.

As for preseason games, 4 has always been insane, 0 not enough for roster development in my opinion. The number moving forward should be 2.

Also, Buck said during the Saints game that they're looking to get some fans in for the next home game so if things keep improving I'd imagine we'll see some more fans in the seats where possible.

I would hope they go to an 18 game schedule and maybe more playoff games to meet the revenue loss
I think the extra practice time and not preparing for preseason games is improving the quality of the games.

I thought the games I have watched thus far were much cleaner than I though. Some teams look better than others but I was expecting MUCH sloppier football and I didnt see that.

Officiating good in the games I watched as well.

NFL has done a good job all around. Players/coaches too.

In comment 14969139 Zeke's Alibi said:

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In comment 14969135 djm said: Quote: That football was gonna be complete trash this season. Heard that one a lot all summer. I guess we can put that one to bed. Ps a first year coach (rivera) and second year qb (Haskins) beat the seasoned and stable eagles with all their familiar faces today. Maybe we will put that new coach new team struggling to bed too. Right, but the issue the Eagles had today was their absolute line was absolutely atrocious going against a top front 7 unit Us and the Steelers have very little to do with Skins and Eagles. The NFC East is trash this year. Not to say we can't win, but it's not very similar.

Giants have a tough test tomorrow for sure. I wasn’t really singling out the giants as much as just in general I am 100% sure new coaches on new teams are at a huge disadvantage. I’m not sure of anything really lol, this is uncharted territory. Too lazy to check how all the first year or new head coaches did today. Off top of my head we know Carolina lost. Dallas is playing now. Doesn’t cincy have a new coach? They lost in ridiculous fashion. Who knows. Hopefully the giants show up tomorrow night and put the nfc East on notice as it looks a little vulnerable.

Looking at the scores of all the games, it seems l8ke the offense is ahead of the defense. You would think without any preseason games , the offense with tim8ng 2ould be out of sync.

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I saw some really good football today

Very enjoyable Sunday

maybe it was just because Thurs seemed so non-competitive.

I actually was enjoying watching the replays of Redzone from week's 16 and 17 on Friday/Saturday more than the Texans-Chiefs.

Today felt more like football.

And the noise being pumped in is a good thing, but I hope they start to get more creative and use different tracks depending on the situation.......sometimes they were pumping noise in and I thought something happened (like a fumble) when it was simply nothing........

Was DL seem to have an advantage over OL. Makes sense, how much live work have OLs had, and it’s easier to destroy than create.

Doesn’t bode well for us, though.

It’s just one week, and the NFL season has always been a war of attrition. I don’t think anyone can judge the League’s decisions until at least November. We’ll see what kind of toll flu and COVID add to the usual injury carnage. Still, Week One has been pretty close to a best-case scenario.

As for the fake crowd noise, there’s obvious room for improvement. If they can make the fan “reactions” more situation- and site-appropriate, the noise should become a plus. Like others, I’d rather hear the sounds on the field - as one does at, say, a high school game. There are practical obstacles, though, including the likelihood of certain teams (Hello, Li’l Bill!) finding ways to eavesdrop.

As B3 says, we’ll now have to wait and see. Despite my doubts, fingers crossed.

Looking forward to tonight, with zero idea how we’ll do. Zero.

Saints and Buc and the Pokes and Rams. Speed of the game was very fast, very hard hitting.

It almost felt like a regular Sunday.
Plenty of bad calls by the refs, but I was happy that they canned the PI challenge.

The fake fan noise was decent, but I felt they didn't do it right at times.

The TV coverage was a little sloppy. Some issues with replays. But, with Covid I will give them a break on that.

and found them dull and boring. I think it’s missing a lot without fans in the stands.

will most definitely get axed. The writing was on the wall a few years ago when the Giants changed their season ticket pricing to weigh the preseason games less than regular season games while keeping overall season costs the same.
You knew that was a precursor to eliminating some preseason games so that when they ultimately add more regular season games they can charge more per game than before.

It was better than I anticipated. And I like the fake noise.

In comment 14969191 mitch300 said:

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Looking at the scores of all the games, it seems l8ke the offense is ahead of the defense. You would think without any preseason games , the offense with tim8ng 2ould be out of sync.

I was thinking about this - went against the conventional wisdom entering the season. But maybe less tackling in camp and no tackling in preseason sets the defense back? Hoping they get up to speed quickly.

you to hear what the players are saying because their language might not be appropriate for children to hear.

My favorite shot of the day (and I forget which game it was in) was a head coach holding his laminated card of plays in front of his mouth so that nobody could read his lips, but the camera man took a side view shot so you could see his lips moving anyway.

In comment 14969567 Marty in Albany said:

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you to hear what the players are saying because their language might not be appropriate for children to hear. My favorite shot of the day (and I forget which game it was in) was a head coach holding his laminated card of plays in front of his mouth so that nobody could read his lips, but the camera man took a side view shot so you could see his lips moving anyway.

Could make it easier for teams (Pats!) to steal signs too. Obviously they can hear them during the game and potentially catch onto their calls, but teams would have to change their calls weekly if the opposition could study film and know their calls entering the game.

In comment 14969088 US1 Giants said:

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I only watch the Giants!

In comment 14969135 djm said:

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That football was gonna be complete trash this season. Heard that one a lot all summer. I guess we can put that one to bed. Ps a first year coach (rivera) and second year qb (Haskins) beat the seasoned and stable eagles with all their familiar faces today. Maybe we will put that new coach new team struggling to bed too.

Are you suggesting that a first-year veteran HC is the same as a rookie HC who has never been a HC at any level?

I'm not sure that's exactly comparable.

First, Thanks to Roger G ... he takes a lot of deserved crap for some of his decisions and stances, but he stayed the course and gave us what we love.

Thanks for the jump and mute buttons on the remote ... useful in keeping the focus on football only, where I want it.

TD and other celebrations seemed more constrained. A good thing, maybe the players have a bit more respect for the game that was almost taken from them.

The top QBs were outstanding ... Russell Wilson for week 1 MVP ... Can Minshew really be for real?

Not surprisingly, tackling was weak in many games and
unfortunately, there will be lots of injuries early on.

In comment 14969078 UConn4523 said:

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They're pros at it in Seattle...

It was great! So glad football is back, even if the Giants are still bad.

for more than a few seconds at a time on Sunday afternoon. But I did get to sit down and focus on the night game..

I was incredibly impressed with the product that DAL/LAR put out last night.