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Vorkunov with the Athletic interviewed the Thunder Beat writer, who said Knox and Frank straight up for Paul would get it done. I'd do that.

to trade CP3 - his client at the time - to the Knicks last year. That would lead you to believev we're gonna make a big push for him. The only X-factor is CP3 himself - will OKC accommodate him if he asks for a trade to Milwaukee or Philly instead?

want to come to this franchise? Just because of his connection to Rose? Doesn't he want to win

They trade Embiid right?

If it is Knkx and Frank for Paul, done deal..

but good player. They can give that team expirings, future pick or whatever and then send that player to GSW for # 2. Not sure if that is doable, depends what level of player GSW would be expecting i guess.

chance Knox turns into a good player, but I still don't want to just toss him into a trade for a 35-year-old PG on creaky knees. Same goes for Frank. I just don't see a ton of upside in bringing Paul here...so why include guys who are (currently) cheap and might turn into something? I'd rather just stay a bad team, as long as they're a competent bad team.

- The Bucks owner can tell Giannis they will spend until they are blue in the face, but didn't letting Brogdon walk show them they won't go all in? That team is going to be hard to improve- if I'm Giannis I play out the year and re-assess.

- I'm sure the Knicks want CP3 and I think it would be a good move. But I'm not sure why the Knicks would be a top choice for Paul.

- Ringer mock draft has the Knicks taking Patrick Wlliams from FSU. I would be targetting Haliburton and Vasell at 8. Thoughts?
- Would also love to see the Knicks move down to 9-13. Maybe the Suns, Kings, or Pelicans give up a future 1st? Probably a pipe dream.
- Rockets have no shot at trading Westbrook. 3 years and 130 million coming. The only scenario I could see is for Blake Griffin. But why would detroit do that? I still think there is an outside shot Houston fully blows it up and trades Harden.

That said, the counter-argument is he can help the young guys really develop. If that is true (and I have my doubts), it might be worth it.

For the most part I've leaned toward acquiring him if OKC is practically giving him away, but the likelihood of a shortened season has me reconsidering. If we're just playing a 50-game schedule or something, it makes more sense just to throw the young guys out there. See what you have in terms of a young foundation when the smoke clears after the 2021 draft.

for NYK using its cap space to make a trade to give financial relief to another team and get compensated for it (for example: Mike Conley, Tobias Harris) and if that compensation were "right" you might be able to come up with an attractive trade. However, there is almost no compensation that is sufficient to take on Westbrook's contract commitment.

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for NYK using its cap space to make a trade to give financial relief to another team and get compensated for it (for example: Mike Conley, Tobias Harris) and if that compensation were "right" you might be able to come up with an attractive trade. However, there is almost no compensation that is sufficient to take on Westbrook's contract commitment.

You can't take on Harris unless they are seriously sweetening it for you. 4 years left and he'll be making 40 million in 2024! Not a fan of this guy and it would be hard pass.

They have picks 14, 26 and 30, and I can't imagine a championship contender adding three rookies to the roster.

I like him a lot but taking that contract on is too much.
Rather look to VanVleet and Christian Wood for the 40+ million CP3 is getting.

Also no on trading up with GS it's been rumored that the Knicks are one of those teams talking to GS and I am not 100% sold on Ball to give up multiple picks for him.

Hard no thanks.

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In comment 14969872 NYG22 said: Quote: for NYK using its cap space to make a trade to give financial relief to another team and get compensated for it (for example: Mike Conley, Tobias Harris) and if that compensation were "right" you might be able to come up with an attractive trade. However, there is almost no compensation that is sufficient to take on Westbrook's contract commitment. You can't take on Harris unless they are seriously sweetening it for you. 4 years left and he'll be making 40 million in 2024! Not a fan of this guy and it would be hard pass.

Yep, I mentioned the sweetener concept.

Something like:

Harris + 21st pick in 2020 + a 2022 first rounder + Zhaire Smith

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Julius Randle + DSJ

This paves the way for:

PG: FVV, Tyrese Halliburton (pick 8), Grant Riller (pick 27)

SG: RJ Barrett, Frank Ntilikina, Zhaire Smith

SF: Saddiq Bey (pick 21), Reggie Bullock, Knox/Iggy

PF: Tobias Harris, Kenny Wooten

C: Mitch Robinson, Taj Gibson, Xavier Tillman (pick 37)

That obviously not a contender or close, but that is a young team with a slew of shooters, defenders and guys that "get after it".

I go back and forth on him but definitely wouldn't give up anything of real value (which for me mean some combination of Knox, 27, 38, and/or DSJ (in decreasing order of value)).

It's hard for me to say yes or no without knowing how realistic other PG options, but I think we need a competent PG as a minimum to let the young guys develop. Someone like DJ Augustin as a minimum if not Paul/Conley.

& the Bucks official Twitter account?

Seems telling.

I think, with him and others, people are underestimating:

-lack of teams with cap room to absorb a large contract
-how much financial hurt no home games (paid attendance) put on teams

but Westbrook is extremely scary for a team like this. 3 whopper years left on his deal and his game is so predicated on AA. He's over 30. I mean look, if you told me right now the KNicks find a way to get Westbrook and another star and found a way to round out the roster? I guess i'd make peace with things, but I don't know. I'd just as soon sign Paul who has one less year and doesn't need to rely on insane AA to flourish. Plus he's proven to be a player that elevates those around him. Not that RW is some selfish slob out there, but Paul just seems such a no brainer if they can fill out the team around him.

I will say this, the more I think of it the more I am convinced the Knicks won't waste much time in going big game hunting. They have a lot of chips here that weren't drafted or cultivated by this regime. It's going to happen. Guys are getting dealt.

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but Westbrook is extremely scary for a team like this. 3 whopper years left on his deal and his game is so predicated on AA. He's over 30. I mean look, if you told me right now the KNicks find a way to get Westbrook and another star and found a way to round out the roster? I guess i'd make peace with things, but I don't know. I'd just as soon sign Paul who has one less year and doesn't need to rely on insane AA to flourish. Plus he's proven to be a player that elevates those around him. Not that RW is some selfish slob out there, but Paul just seems such a no brainer if they can fill out the team around him. I will say this, the more I think of it the more I am convinced the Knicks won't waste much time in going big game hunting. They have a lot of chips here that weren't drafted or cultivated by this regime. It's going to happen. Guys are getting dealt.

Westbrook is a really bad idea for so many reasons:

1. the contract
2. his age and his reliance on great athletic ability
3. the fact that he is among the worst shooters at the guard spot in the league
4. his play style inhibits team play and growth of young players
5. he is a turnover machine
6. HOU doesn't have young assets to compensate a trade partner to take on that contract

has 2 years left on his deal.

We are really that concerned with a 2 year deal? Are the Knicks going to be able to sign or acquire a better player that has the same number of years and one that requires less assets in return? That's the million dollar question. If you can get Paul for trash, you arent getting or equal player for less than that. And 2 years?

If you want the Knicks to get better without subtracting much if anything in return, paul is your guy.

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has 2 years left on his deal. We are really that concerned with a 2 year deal? Are the Knicks going to be able to sign or acquire a better player that has the same number of years and one that requires less assets in return? That's the million dollar question. If you can get Paul for trash, you arent getting or equal player for less than that. And 2 years? If you want the Knicks to get better without subtracting much if anything in return, paul is your guy.

if we're just throwing crappy vets on expiring deals into a trade, then I can see it. But I don't want to give up anything resembling a young asset. Even if it's a clown like DSJ. Whatever upside you get with Paul is not worth the risk one of these guys turns into an actual player with 8-9 years in the league ahead of him.

The Knicks have to take advantage this off-season that they are one of 3 teams that can take salary. They blew it last offseason, let's hope this mgmt team is smarter and more savvy.

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The Knicks have to take advantage this off-season that they are one of 3 teams that can take salary. They blew it last offseason, let's hope this mgmt team is smarter and more savvy.

Pete, have you heard any rumblings lately about they have in mind?

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have to question why Paul would want to come here unless it's his only option. I'm not saying he fully gets to pick but I doubt OKC is going to fuck him over nor is Leon looking to trade for a guy who doesn't want to be here.

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& the Bucks official Twitter account? Seems telling.

He deleted ALL but 8 accounts. The teammate's thing was all hype. He follows only his family now.

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In comment 14970005 djm said: Quote: has 2 years left on his deal. We are really that concerned with a 2 year deal? Are the Knicks going to be able to sign or acquire a better player that has the same number of years and one that requires less assets in return? That's the million dollar question. If you can get Paul for trash, you arent getting or equal player for less than that. And 2 years? If you want the Knicks to get better without subtracting much if anything in return, paul is your guy. if we're just throwing crappy vets on expiring deals into a trade, then I can see it. But I don't want to give up anything resembling a young asset. Even if it's a clown like DSJ. Whatever upside you get with Paul is not worth the risk one of these guys turns into an actual player with 8-9 years in the league ahead of him.

Knox ok fine, to me DSJ is utterly and totally worthless. I get your point though, I want Paul with the caveat that he doesn't cost us shit.

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In comment 14970005 djm said: Quote: has 2 years left on his deal. We are really that concerned with a 2 year deal? Are the Knicks going to be able to sign or acquire a better player that has the same number of years and one that requires less assets in return? That's the million dollar question. If you can get Paul for trash, you arent getting or equal player for less than that. And 2 years? If you want the Knicks to get better without subtracting much if anything in return, paul is your guy. if we're just throwing crappy vets on expiring deals into a trade, then I can see it. But I don't want to give up anything resembling a young asset. Even if it's a clown like DSJ. Whatever upside you get with Paul is not worth the risk one of these guys turns into an actual player with 8-9 years in the league ahead of him.

I get your point but I think DSJ is close to being out of the league. He has negative value. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see DSJ becoming a player.

I understand Paul's age and he has had injuries. But the guy is a legendary point guard who was close to a top 5 player this season. And he's an excellent defender and distributor.

I'm really surprised by fans reluctance to pursue him. I get he's paid alot but I think it will hard to match a player of his caliber even with cap space. I love FVV and get the age/ cost difference, but CP3 is a lot better than him.

To me if you can get him for expirings and 1 low level asset- its a no brainer. Only 2 years left and he'll still only be 36...

pursue Chris Paul. It's why the hell would he want to play for the Knicks? At least OKC had some talent around him. If he comes here that means they had to give up assets to acquire him thus giving him a shittier supporting cast on an already terrible team.

I really see now reason why or how it happens. Another pipe dream to keep Knick fans interested.

That has us getting rid of Randle and DSJ is something we HAVE to do. ANY scenario. That's how caustic and toxic those two have become. I am neutral on CP3, it depends on the package, really. Don't kill me, but I am slightly positive on Russ... but we need to get rid of all our detritus in the package AND have a boatload of picks and young talent coming in as well. That said, I don't really see it happening. I think it might be too big of a splash, with the cries of, "Same-o, same-o," again.

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pursue Chris Paul. It's why the hell would he want to play for the Knicks?

I think this will be the deciding factor. OKC will show him the proper respect and not banish him to the bottom of the league. He'll probably end up in Milwaukee or Philly, which is cool with me.

suggested the Knicks go after Harrel.

Could not be a stronger pass. He's -42 in the playoffs and that's including a game in which he was +34. He's being exposed in major ways. There are much better ways to be spending our money.

they have (or will be hiring) yet another assistant coach. I don't pay for the Athletic but Vorkunov implied as much in a tweet. Anyone with access?

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In comment 14969882 TyreeHelmet said: Quote: In comment 14969872 NYG22 said: Quote: for NYK using its cap space to make a trade to give financial relief to another team and get compensated for it (for example: Mike Conley, Tobias Harris) and if that compensation were "right" you might be able to come up with an attractive trade. However, there is almost no compensation that is sufficient to take on Westbrook's contract commitment. You can't take on Harris unless they are seriously sweetening it for you. 4 years left and he'll be making 40 million in 2024! Not a fan of this guy and it would be hard pass. Yep, I mentioned the sweetener concept. Something like: Harris + 21st pick in 2020 + a 2022 first rounder + Zhaire Smith for Julius Randle + DSJ This paves the way for: PG: FVV, Tyrese Halliburton (pick 8), Grant Riller (pick 27) SG: RJ Barrett, Frank Ntilikina, Zhaire Smith SF: Saddiq Bey (pick 21), Reggie Bullock, Knox/Iggy PF: Tobias Harris, Kenny Wooten C: Mitch Robinson, Taj Gibson, Xavier Tillman (pick 37) That obviously not a contender or close, but that is a young team with a slew of shooters, defenders and guys that "get after it".

I think Bey is a stud and would be a great pick at 8

love to take on a contract and get another 1st round pick. While this draft is not top heavy, there are some solid players you will be able to get in the teens and 20s. Would have to come out of this draft with a PG and a 3 and D type

Macri,

Knicks building an offer around Randle and Knox for Paul.

I'm all in for that. Surprised that Thunder couldn't get more, but I do think Randle has more value in the eyes of opposing teams than for us. I also have to imagine Paul has given his blessing on coming to the Knicks if we're even going to make an offer.

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Macri, Knicks building an offer around Randle and Knox for Paul. I'm all in for that. Surprised that Thunder couldn't get more, but I do think Randle has more value in the eyes of opposing teams than for us. I also have to imagine Paul has given his blessing on coming to the Knicks if we're even going to make an offer.

I'm pretty down on Randle, but to me it makes more sense to keep him if you're bringing in Paul. Let Paul help to rebuild some of his value. Let OKC take on the likes of Portis and Payton if they need expirings.

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In comment 14972732 Jon in NYC said: Quote: Macri, Knicks building an offer around Randle and Knox for Paul. I'm all in for that. Surprised that Thunder couldn't get more, but I do think Randle has more value in the eyes of opposing teams than for us. I also have to imagine Paul has given his blessing on coming to the Knicks if we're even going to make an offer. I'm pretty down on Randle, but to me it makes more sense to keep him if you're bringing in Paul. Let Paul help to rebuild some of his value. Let OKC take on the likes of Portis and Payton if they need expirings.

Only disagreement is that every minute Randle is here hurts the development of RJ and Mitch. Including Randle in the trade also allows them an extra 20 mil in cap room this summer to add another piece (Wood,FVV,Bertans?)

wouldn't be sad to see him go. Clearing that $4 million he's owed for 21/22 helps a little bit as well.

dude but awesome passer, I'd be in

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dude but awesome passer, I'd be in NBA Central @TheNBACentral · 19h The Knicks have scouted Facundo Campazzo, per @NYPost_Berman

Thibs loves short PGs for whatever reason. Aaron Brooks, DJ Augustin, Nate Robinson, im sure there are more. He also seems like a ton of fun to watch play. I'd be in at the right price.

just highlights, he's not particularly young, weird shot and small... but man can he pass and he's a good finisher for his size.

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In comment 14973151 DanMetroMan said: Quote: dude but awesome passer, I'd be in NBA Central @TheNBACentral · 19h The Knicks have scouted Facundo Campazzo, per @NYPost_Berman Thibs loves short PGs for whatever reason. Aaron Brooks, DJ Augustin, Nate Robinson, im sure there are more. He also seems like a ton of fun to watch play. I'd be in at the right price.

it's sort of a Moneyball approach to filling the spot. There's a ton of them out there, they're usually cheap, and given the rules in the modern NBA - a decent one can prop up your offense.

A tiny PG could get targeted/attacked in the playoffs but nothing we need to be concerned about at this point...

Knicks offer being discussed internally is randle and knox for Paul...He is hearing Paul isnopen to coming to the Knicks mainly becaise of Rose..

Knicks wont get into bidding war

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Knicks offer being discussed internally is randle and knox for Paul...He is hearing Paul isnopen to coming to the Knicks mainly becaise of Rose.. Knicks wont get into bidding war

Unless I missed something, that's not what he said.

"According to multiple sources familiar with the Knicks thinking, New York is readying initial offers to potentially bring the Point God to the Mecca. Julius Randle and Kevin Knox are two names I’m hearing are involved in internal discussions. "

Meaning those are 2 names he's heard internal discussions. Not that the Knicks offer is those 2.

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In comment 14973473 nygiants16 said: Quote: Knicks offer being discussed internally is randle and knox for Paul...He is hearing Paul isnopen to coming to the Knicks mainly becaise of Rose.. Knicks wont get into bidding war Unless I missed something, that's not what he said. "According to multiple sources familiar with the Knicks thinking, New York is readying initial offers to potentially bring the Point God to the Mecca. Julius Randle and Kevin Knox are two names I’m hearing are involved in internal discussions. " Meaning those are 2 names he's heard internal discussions. Not that the Knicks offer is those 2.

Isnt that exactly what i said

From what I've seen shared on this board, he sounds like he's running the Tommy Dee playbook.

wrote is implying those are 2 names the Knicks are discussing including. It's not suggesting their offer is those 2 and thats it.

with the Knicks being connected to Pat Williams so often. That's getting too cutesy at 8.

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From what I've seen shared on this board, he sounds like he's running the Tommy Dee playbook.

I actually met Tommy Dee once. His source was someone close to David Lee. Either Lee himself or his agent or friend or something.

Macri I think has some more credibility than Dee but not a ton. Weirdly enough the person I actually trust the most is Berman.

happened to that guy whose source was Courtney Lee? JKnicks or something. He completely fell off the radar, or mine at least.

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happened to that guy whose source was Courtney Lee? JKnicks or something. He completely fell off the radar, or mine at least.

He's posted a bit but Lee was definitely his main plug
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I'm all for getting Chris Paul but I would rather they keep Knox- even as bad as he's been. He just turned 21 and is 2 years away from being the 9th pick. I'd like to see him play the 4 next to Robinson for an extended period of time. Lets give him some time with a competent coaching staff. I think its pretty clear Fizdale was a terrible head coach. Has he had any buzz about the openings? I'd prefer a late 1st and/ or take on unwanted salary from them.

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wrote is implying those are 2 names the Knicks are discussing including. It's not suggesting their offer is those 2 and thats it.

wasnt trying to, thanks for keeping me honest..

As for Macri he doesnt over step his bounds, he is not trying to be woj, he shares bits and pieces

hyping up Knox?
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my point was he seems to do exactly what Tommy Dee used to do --- say he's "hearing" something that is extremely obvious like Thibs being the favorite for the Knicks job or that they're interested in Chris Paul. Then throw in some unimportant details to make it sound more reputable which can easily be written off if it doesn't come to fruition as things change during negotiations.

I'm wary of the character-type when they're trying to build a following for themselves to monetize. A bit too coincidental.

What spurred the post was that I saw a Utah beat writer was asked about a Randle-Conley trade rumor which I believe came from him and he said he hasn't heard anything close to that at all. So I guess my question is, has he actually had anything before everyone else what wasn't super obvious (IE, any one of us would've predicted the Thibs hire).

definitely uses some of these tidbits as clickbait for his newsletter, but overall he seems like a good dude.

As for the Randle/Paul rumor, that was the guys at KnicksFanTV. They have a lot of scouts on their show, so they probably got some bad intel from one of them. The real news there was a Randle trade being a top priority, which may still be the case. They also threw out Cassius Stanley and Robert Woodard as targets with the later pics, so we'll see how that goes.

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I like RJ, but it’s a bit disappointing that the third overall pick didn’t earn a spot. Hopefully he’s making strides with that jumper.

The saga continues.

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The saga continues.

Bucks really have nothing to offer OKC..

I wonder if they trh for westbrook

think the Knicks are in the drivers seat here. The Sixers can only offer awful contracts and who else is there? Maybe the Suns.

think the Suns are the best fit. They want to clear Oubre, have the #10 pick and I think those 2 pieces are far more than I'd want to give up. For them, I get it.

Paul/Booker/Ayton would be a fun trio. Knicks figure to be right in the mix though.

are important to OKC unless they get a young player, it is the contracts and what kind of cap space they can get..

oubre and 10 paul is all yours..

The Knicks can't match that.

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wouldn't be sad to see him go. Clearing that $4 million he's owed for 21/22 helps a little bit as well.

Guys like Randle are a dime a dozen. Yea he could probably help the Knicks with the right system and players around him, but he's replaceable. PLus it's not like the Knicks gave up anything for him in the first place.

Knox would be sting if he ever figured shit out, but what kind of player and ceiling are we really talking about? I can't envision any scenario where KNox is playing good defense. HE might develop into a good offensive 3-4, if he can find an outside shot, sure. He's pretty good (maybe) in the open floor, stumbles into a few rebounds, but the potential is limited. Not only does Knox not even try on D all that often, he sucks at it even when he does.

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Chris Paul, Knicks trade that I had heard NY had lined up was: Elfrid Payton, Bobby Portis, Frank Ntilikina, Kevin Knox, 2021 2nd round pick via Hornets & 2021 2nd round pick via Mavs in exchange for CP3

it is 21 first from mavs top 5 protected

I'd rather give up Knox than Frank...but no way am I giving up both.

Now that we have a scout I actually believe in (Walt Perrin), I'd expect to find a guy in the 18-20 range of a deep draft who can help for years to come. I'd probably give up Knox and Frank before the Dallas pick at this point.

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📍Brandon ‘Scoop B’ Robinson, M.A. @ScoopB Chris Paul, Knicks trade that I had heard NY had lined up was: Elfrid Payton, Bobby Portis, Frank Ntilikina, Kevin Knox, 2021 2nd round pick via Hornets & 2021 2nd round pick via Mavs in exchange for CP3

I can tell this is bullshit because there's 0 reason to include Payton and Portis unless the Thunder really want those players (unlikely). Don't need them as cap filler, the Knicks can just decline their options and absorb Paul into space.

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In comment 14974679 nygiants16 said: Quote: 📍Brandon ‘Scoop B’ Robinson, M.A. @ScoopB Chris Paul, Knicks trade that I had heard NY had lined up was: Elfrid Payton, Bobby Portis, Frank Ntilikina, Kevin Knox, 2021 2nd round pick via Hornets & 2021 2nd round pick via Mavs in exchange for CP3 I can tell this is bullshit because there's 0 reason to include Payton and Portis unless the Thunder really want those players (unlikely). Don't need them as cap filler, the Knicks can just decline their options and absorb Paul into space.

Knicms could want to include them so they dont have 2 million of dead cap on their books, but other than that really no reason for okc to take them...

wants expirings they can use at the deadline? It gives them a little more flexibility than just straight up cap space. But other than that, I got nothing. Doesn't make a lot of sense for them to take back players when they can just dump a ton of Paul's money into space.

RJ Hampton had a video call with Knicks executives and scouts a few weeks ago. The call included team president Leon Rose and senior and executive vice president William ‘World Wide Wes’ Wesley.

Hampton hoped to get a clear message across to New York during the interview.

“I was a projected Top 5 pick last year. I went overseas, I learned a lot, I didn’t have superior numbers and I was kind of forgotten about,” Hampton said in an interview with SNY. “The message that I was trying to get across is, ‘I’m still that same player. I’m still that player that can get you 20-25 points, 6-7 assists, be that lead guard and a franchise changer.’”
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but im not giving up Knox, Frank, and a 1st. And i have zero hopes for knox and frank, just seems like a lot of "assets" for us to give away for an older PG on a huge deal. Again i really like the idea of getting Paul, but i dont think we should be trading 3 assets for him.

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RJ Hampton had a video call with Knicks executives and scouts a few weeks ago. The call included team president Leon Rose and senior and executive vice president William ‘World Wide Wes’ Wesley. Hampton hoped to get a clear message across to New York during the interview. “I was a projected Top 5 pick last year. I went overseas, I learned a lot, I didn’t have superior numbers and I was kind of forgotten about,” Hampton said in an interview with SNY. “The message that I was trying to get across is, ‘I’m still that same player. I’m still that player that can get you 20-25 points, 6-7 assists, be that lead guard and a franchise changer.’” Link - ( New Window )

He a guy you take a chance on in the 2nd round or that late first

cool giving away Knox, but I have a suspicion moving Frank will be one of those moves that comes back to bite us

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cool giving away Knox, but I have a suspicion moving Frank will be one of those moves that comes back to bite us

he certainly wouldn't be the first guy to go from being a bad shooter to being at least average. And if he can become average, that plus his defense makes him someone you can trust at the end of games.

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cool giving away Knox, but I have a suspicion moving Frank will be one of those moves that comes back to bite us

Agreed. If the kid can improve his shot and handle a bit he can be a great bench piece in this league for many years

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but im not giving up Knox, Frank, and a 1st. And i have zero hopes for knox and frank, just seems like a lot of "assets" for us to give away for an older PG on a huge deal. Again i really like the idea of getting Paul, but i dont think we should be trading 3 assets for him.

I tend to agree. That’s a little more than I’d want to stomach.

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with the Knicks being connected to Pat Williams so often. That's getting too cutesy at 8.

Here we go...

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Suddenly Florida State forward Patrick Williams has emerged as a serious candidate for the eighth overall pick for the Knicks.

"The [New York] Knicks might be one of the only teams that could be a fit for Westbrook."

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(Via Eric Pincus of Bleacher Report)

Has to be included for Salary? Am I wrong?

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Has to be included for Salary? Am I wrong?

He does not.

"Once the Knicks enter the 2020-21 offseason, they have the ability to create close to $45 million in cap space. That means they could absorb Chris Paul’s massive $41 million salary without needing to send much back to Oklahoma City."

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Age 35? Pass.

In comment 14975461 Carl in CT said:

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Age 35? Pass.

Rj and mitch, the 8th pick, whatever else they add in free agency..

Adding Paul is not just about on the court

In comment 14975461 Carl in CT said:

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Age 35? Pass.

He is 35. He was also named 2nd team all NBA, so....

Will be gone up to 2019 RJB. So when do we start the rebuild?

In comment 14975471 Carl in CT said:

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Will be gone up to 2019 RJB. So when do we start the rebuild?

Huh? you can do both, there are ways to rebuild and compete, tanking doesnt work..you dont tank your way into being a championship contender..

RJ and Mitch are your building blocks, it doesnt matter mitch was a 2nd tound pick

Knox and Frank for 2 years? Maybe 3 (Stretch) of Paul? Here comes Stevie Francis part 2.

Are not good enough to be your building blocks.

In comment 14975471 Carl in CT said:

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Will be gone up to 2019 RJB. So when do we start the rebuild?

The new rules killed tanking. Adding Paul doesn't hurt anything with our rebuild, aside from making the team better. He wont take too many assets to get and wouldn't be taking time from anyone.

Wanna tank a shortened season and see what kind of young core we can build? Great.

Wanna go after CP3 in a reasonable trade? Fine. I’ll watch a CP3/RJ/Mitch/Vassell (or whomever at #8) starting lineup next year.

is a “big-time priority.”