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NFT: Steve Cohen to own 95% of the Mets per league approval

DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 5:21 pm
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The  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 5:23 pm : link
Wilpon/Katz families will retain a 5% stake. The other LP's are out. 95% to Cohen (he obviously can opt to bring in other LP's). The November meetings have been canceled so it's conceivable a vote is held within the next 6 weeks. If it's not we will have to wait until a scheduled vote post-playoffs and world series.
Hurry  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/14/2020 5:25 pm : link
before Brodie does something stupid.
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DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 5:25 pm : link
Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
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Mets have released a comment from Steve Cohen: “I am excited to have reached an agreement with the Wilpon and Katz families to purchase the New York Mets,” said Mr. Cohen.
Is there a chance  
Jon in NYC : 9/14/2020 5:26 pm : link
the league doesn't approve?
Bill  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 5:26 pm : link
Maher invested 20 million, cashes out with 94 million. Not too bad lol.
RE: Is there a chance  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/14/2020 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14970216 Jon in NYC said:
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the league doesn't approve?


Not based on prior reports.
RE: Is there a chance  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14970216 Jon in NYC said:
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the league doesn't approve?


There is always that chance but I have not seen a single reputable writer suggest this has a real chance of falling apart at this point. Cohen is well known throughout baseball and was already putting his team together (LaRussa/Tellem) when the Dodgers deal didn't happen. It won't be unanimous but this is happening.
great news  
Eric on Li : 9/14/2020 5:28 pm : link
I think the chances of the vote going against him are an extreme long shot. A-rod coming in 2nd may have been the best thing for him in that regard.

Getting the agreement this far in advance of the offseason means he will likely get to plan a way to have an impact financially. At minimum he will be able to negotiate extensions for players still in the org later in the winter - which is great. Conforto and Thor should get locked down.

My guess is he will want to hire some form of organizational leader who reports directly to him and that will be the single most important thing that happens next with this franchise. It may take time to get the right person or it may happen the day after his announcement is official, but as long as it's not BVW or Omar I'll be happy.
RE: great news  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14970226 Eric on Li said:
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I think the chances of the vote going against him are an extreme long shot. A-rod coming in 2nd may have been the best thing for him in that regard.

Getting the agreement this far in advance of the offseason means he will likely get to plan a way to have an impact financially. At minimum he will be able to negotiate extensions for players still in the org later in the winter - which is great. Conforto and Thor should get locked down.

My guess is he will want to hire some form of organizational leader who reports directly to him and that will be the single most important thing that happens next with this franchise. It may take time to get the right person or it may happen the day after his announcement is official, but as long as it's not BVW or Omar I'll be happy.


Yes and no. The vote has to be held before 10/31 or it's going to come in the off-season. No off field league business is held during the playoffs or world series. So hopefully it comes within the next 6 weeks (the Marlins vote came soon after). Otherwise, it will be by special vote post world series (November meetings have been canceled).
Sorry  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 5:31 pm : link
that's before 9/28, not 10/31.
Yup-  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 5:31 pm : link
Christopher Soto
@SotoC803
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If it doesn't come by then.....

Then I do not see the approval coming until after the playoffs are over no later than 10/31.

November 1st and beyond feels like a REALLY long wait to finalize a sale that is seemingly going to be wrapped up today.
most seem to be reporting the vote will be in November  
Eric on Li : 9/14/2020 5:34 pm : link
most of the offseason usually doesn't happen until December, and this is going to be a strange offseason. Everyone will know before the vote whether or not he is getting approved. He is going to have whatever conversations he wants to have prior and has whatever access he needs already being a minority owner.

Nothing will officially happen before the approval vote but plenty will happen.
RE: .  
Everyone Relax : 9/14/2020 5:34 pm : link
In comment 14970215 DanMetroMan said:
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Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
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Mets have released a comment from Steve Cohen: “I am excited to have reached an agreement with the Wilpon and Katz families to purchase the New York Mets,” said Mr. Cohen.


What a quote haha! But seriously, couldn't have asked for a better owner on paper. Deep deep pockets and a life long Mets fan.
Can’t overstate how good this news is  
Metnut : 9/14/2020 5:34 pm : link
Really really exciting stuff
RE: most seem to be reporting the vote will be in November  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 5:35 pm : link
In comment 14970237 Eric on Li said:
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most of the offseason usually doesn't happen until December, and this is going to be a strange offseason. Everyone will know before the vote whether or not he is getting approved. He is going to have whatever conversations he wants to have prior and has whatever access he needs already being a minority owner.

Nothing will officially happen before the approval vote but plenty will happen.


November meetings were canceled so this will have to be a special vote. Hopefully sooner vs. later.
Now that it's over, I have a real curiosity how Jeff could be so dumb  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/14/2020 5:36 pm : link
his own family told him to get his shinebox.
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DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 5:39 pm : link
Now let's see what is/isn't involved in this sale. What's the minor league team situation? How soon does Brodie get his walking papers?
RE: Yup-  
Eric on Li : 9/14/2020 5:41 pm : link
In comment 14970233 DanMetroMan said:
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Christopher Soto
@SotoC803
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4h
If it doesn't come by then.....

Then I do not see the approval coming until after the playoffs are over no later than 10/31.

November 1st and beyond feels like a REALLY long wait to finalize a sale that is seemingly going to be wrapped up today.


It's not that abnormal, the Royals new owners had to wait longer than that last year.
Jeter  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 5:47 pm : link
only waited for 6 weeks but yes, the Royals situation could suggest we could be waiting until November.
RE: Is there a chance  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/14/2020 5:47 pm : link
In comment 14970216 Jon in NYC said:
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the league doesn't approve?


Honestly I doubt it. The other owners must be drooling at the prospect of $2.35 billion valuation for the Mets. That and he's a sole owner (not a conglomerate) that will be run the organization stably (i.e. no bickering amongst multiple owners).
Sherman says vote before November  
Eric on Li : 9/14/2020 5:55 pm : link
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A vote of all owners is expected to come before November


Honestly I don't think the exact date matters because it will be close enough to the beginning of the offseason that if he wants to give Realmuto $100m+ he will be able do it. The guy literally just spent the most money on a sports franchise in history beating out the Panthers sale.

The timeline that is more unpredictable is the search for a new GM/President. My guess is he will be having a ton of conversations over the next 6-8 weeks and it's 50/50 which happens first between him choosing that person and MLB voting.
Wilpons  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 5:56 pm : link
will retain SNY.
RE: Wilpons  
Eric on Li : 9/14/2020 5:59 pm : link
In comment 14970272 DanMetroMan said:
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will retain SNY.


Cohen will buy that too soon enough.
Martino  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 6:02 pm : link
General expectation from industry is Steve Cohen will be approved by other owners. However, this is not a 100 percent certainty, and it’s not likely that the votes are all counted. Last prospective owner to not be approved was Jeff Moorad with SDP.
Sure  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 6:03 pm : link
Sounds like we will have to wait until after the World Series
RE: Wilpons  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/14/2020 6:08 pm : link
In comment 14970272 DanMetroMan said:
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will retain SNY.


Bold prediction: Cohen finds a way to get out of the Mets' contract with SNY the first chance he gets and only re-signs with SNY if the Wilpons sell him a majority stake.
Congrats from over here in Yankee Country.  
bceagle05 : 9/14/2020 6:08 pm : link
Absolute game-changer in New York sports. Mets have talent and deep pockets now.
RE: Sure  
Eric on Li : 9/14/2020 6:10 pm : link
In comment 14970285 DanMetroMan said:
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Sounds like we will have to wait until after the World Series


The timing of the meeting likely has to do with everything else that needs to be on the agenda other than this.

I'd imagine these meetings typically go through annual revenue numbers, final ratings, offseason business, and things like that. That's likely why they do it a few weeks after the WS.

This year more than any other probably has some oddities to it due to everything related to C19. That could work for us if there's some reason why they need to have an official meeting earlier than usual or it could work against us if more important things push back usual business.

They want the record sale though so I don't think there's much that can derail this short of a Donald Sterling tape coming out.
Eric  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 6:13 pm : link
The November meetings were canceled today. There are no scheduled meetings until December. This meeting would be a “special” meeting just for the vote.
Cohen getting SNY is sort of unimportant right now  
Eric on Li : 9/14/2020 6:14 pm : link
a) if he wants it, it will happen, it's just a matter of when because owning the team gives him all the leverage now.

b) he already spent $2b+ to buy the team. Whether or not they sell him SNY for another $2b+ isn't going to impact operating decisions.
.  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 6:14 pm : link
“ The annual #MLB General Manager meetings, scheduled in November, have been cancelled. The Winter Meetings are tentatively still scheduled in December in Dallas, Texas.”
RE: Eric  
Eric on Li : 9/14/2020 6:15 pm : link
In comment 14970301 DanMetroMan said:
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The November meetings were canceled today. There are no scheduled meetings until December. This meeting would be a “special” meeting just for the vote.


If it's a special meeting just for this that's even better and I trust Sherman's take that it will probably happen before November.
None  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 6:16 pm : link
Of the writers are clear if the Wilpon owner affiliates are included. Earlier it was being suggested they likely would hold onto Brooklyn
Bob  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 6:17 pm : link
Nightengale says mid-November
He  
DanMetroMan : 9/14/2020 6:20 pm : link
Claims there is a 10 day vetting process and a mid November vote
It's been something like 30 years of these Wilpon schmucks.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/14/2020 6:23 pm : link
I'm sure MLB isn't eager to have a second free-spending team in New York, but at this point, I just want an upgrade to everything. The scouting, the farm system... and how about not turning everything Mets into Dodgers nostalgia? The Dodgers were in Brooklyn for 73 years, if you count the years they were in the American Assn. They've been in Los Angeles for 62 years. The Mets have existed for 58 years. They have their own identity. They're not the Dodgers of Fred Wilpon's childhood reborn. Geez, Fred, let it go. Nobody under the age of 70 cares anymore.

There's talk of renaming the Jackie Robinson Rotunda after Tom Seaver. Politically sensitive, but it should never have been named after a Dodger in the first place. Seaver works for me.
RE: It's been something like 30 years of these Wilpon schmucks.  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/14/2020 7:12 pm : link
In comment 14970317 81_Great_Dane said:
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I'm sure MLB isn't eager to have a second free-spending team in New York, but at this point, I just want an upgrade to everything. The scouting, the farm system... and how about not turning everything Mets into Dodgers nostalgia? The Dodgers were in Brooklyn for 73 years, if you count the years they were in the American Assn. They've been in Los Angeles for 62 years. The Mets have existed for 58 years. They have their own identity. They're not the Dodgers of Fred Wilpon's childhood reborn. Geez, Fred, let it go. Nobody under the age of 70 cares anymore.

There's talk of renaming the Jackie Robinson Rotunda after Tom Seaver. Politically sensitive, but it should never have been named after a Dodger in the first place. Seaver works for me.


I think the 42 makes a lot more sense at Barclays.
Wilpons  
DanMetroMan : 9/15/2020 12:50 pm : link
keep SNY and developmental rights of Willets point.
Wilpons  
DanMetroMan : 9/15/2020 12:52 pm : link
are not expected to be selling the Cyclones as part of this deal, Cohen would need to agree to a player development deal with the Wilpons (as the Cyclones owners), buy a new AA team or purchase the Cyclones outright.
I’ve heard from second hand sources that Cohen is a raging psycho  
Dave in PA : 9/15/2020 12:54 pm : link
I guess you have to be in that business and to amass billions upon billions of dollars. Hopefully it works out for the Mets
RE: Wilpons  
figgy2989 : 9/15/2020 12:58 pm : link
In comment 14973178 DanMetroMan said:
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are not expected to be selling the Cyclones as part of this deal, Cohen would need to agree to a player development deal with the Wilpons (as the Cyclones owners), buy a new AA team or purchase the Cyclones outright.


Aren't the Cyclones the Rookie A ball team for the Mets? Why would they need to buy a new AA team.

My hope is once the deal is finalized and Cohen finally has the team, he does his thing and start figuring out ways to get rid of the Wilpons. Create his own sports network, buy whatever minor league teams he has to and figure out a way to develop the land around the stadium without Sterling Equities.
RE: RE: Wilpons  
DanMetroMan : 9/15/2020 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14973193 figgy2989 said:
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In comment 14973178 DanMetroMan said:


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are not expected to be selling the Cyclones as part of this deal, Cohen would need to agree to a player development deal with the Wilpons (as the Cyclones owners), buy a new AA team or purchase the Cyclones outright.



Aren't the Cyclones the Rookie A ball team for the Mets? Why would they need to buy a new AA team.

My hope is once the deal is finalized and Cohen finally has the team, he does his thing and start figuring out ways to get rid of the Wilpons. Create his own sports network, buy whatever minor league teams he has to and figure out a way to develop the land around the stadium without Sterling Equities.


Cyclones are expected to become the Mets AA affiliate due to the elimination of 40-60 minor league teams.
So  
DanMetroMan : 9/15/2020 1:01 pm : link
assuming the Wilpons are keeping the Cyclones, he will either sign a player development deal with them, buy a different AA team (Cyclones ceasing to be a Mets affiliate, which I would be stunned to see) or he buys them outright (doesn't sound like they are for sale).

"Under the proposal, reported by Bill Madden of the Daily News, the Cyclones in their current iteration as a New York Penn League team would be eliminated, and they would become the Mets' Double-A affiliate, which currently plays in Binghamton.

According to Baseball America, the proposal would "completely reorganize" the full-season minor leagues, with the four highest levels -- Triple-A, Double-A, High-A, and Low-A, reworked to make those leagues "more geographically compac"
Got ya  
figgy2989 : 9/15/2020 1:02 pm : link
Thanks Dan. It would be in Cohen's best interest to cut ties with the Wilpons wherever he can.

Brooklyn  
DanMetroMan : 9/15/2020 1:08 pm : link
is obviously a very appealing place to have a team, even for non-NY teams. Hopefully, they work something out.
RE: Brooklyn  
pjcas18 : 9/15/2020 1:11 pm : link
In comment 14973212 DanMetroMan said:
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is obviously a very appealing place to have a team, even for non-NY teams. Hopefully, they work something out.


Sure, but why would Cohen want anything to do with the Wilpons.

If I were Cohen I'd reach out to the guy from BING who got contracted and re-open that franchise the first chance he gets as the AA team.
RE: RE: Brooklyn  
DanMetroMan : 9/15/2020 1:18 pm : link
In comment 14973214 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14973212 DanMetroMan said:


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is obviously a very appealing place to have a team, even for non-NY teams. Hopefully, they work something out.



Sure, but why would Cohen want anything to do with the Wilpons.

If I were Cohen I'd reach out to the guy from BING who got contracted and re-open that franchise the first chance he gets as the AA team.


1) He's still going to be in business with them as they will own 5% of the team 2) They are developing the area around the stadium (he will also get a taste of that per reports) 3) The Cyclones due to location are one of the more valuable teams/markets in all of minor league baseball 4) Because of licenses, Cohen could not just "re-open" the Rumbleponies, he would need to purchase one of the existing Eastern League teams.
I know all of that  
pjcas18 : 9/15/2020 1:28 pm : link
does it mean he has to be held hostage with the minor league team.

Can't an MLB owner decide where his affiliation should be?

Even the Mets under the Wilpons had 5 locations for AAA the past 20 years.

It seems like if Cohen wants to, he should be able to pick his own affiliation and IMO if that means ending Brooklyn and restarting BING it should be his call, not MLBs
RE: I know all of that  
DanMetroMan : 9/15/2020 1:32 pm : link
In comment 14973237 pjcas18 said:
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does it mean he has to be held hostage with the minor league team.

Can't an MLB owner decide where his affiliation should be?

Even the Mets under the Wilpons had 5 locations for AAA the past 20 years.

It seems like if Cohen wants to, he should be able to pick his own affiliation and IMO if that means ending Brooklyn and restarting BING it should be his call, not MLBs


No. That's not his call. Each league has X licenses. He would need to purchase an existing license/team and then move that license to (in this case) Bing.
This  
DanMetroMan : 9/15/2020 1:35 pm : link
is why teams ended up playing in Las Vegas (worst ball park in the minors). Because Las Vegas held/holds one of the AAA licenses.
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