It was a bad decision. He also had a Mahomes style drive the previous 18 plays. He basically drove the team 90 yards himself. Gotta relax a little there. Kid can play.
but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
No question
we wont be pickin #1. and IF we were, we would trade down and take the picks. jones is the goods. you guys just hate gettleman, its almost like youre rooting for jones to suck. kid hasnt even started 16 games in his career and he runs the offense like a seasoned vet. his INT in redzone was FIRST EVER. he was trying to make a play that wasnt there. he will learn. he faced a great defense tonight with a young and raw OL.
The OL cleaned up the blitz issues in the 2nd half
Right down to the garbage time drive that makes the game look closer than it actually was.
OL is still garbage. Secondary is still garbage. Defense still can't get stops when they need one. And as far as "oh, they competed!" goes, they have played a lot of games just like this over the past three years including against good teams.
Three Dave Gettleman offseasons and the talent level still sucks.
but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
No question
we wont be pickin #1. and IF we were, we would trade down and take the picks. jones is the goods. you guys just hate gettleman, its almost like youre rooting for jones to suck. kid hasnt even started 16 games in his career and he runs the offense like a seasoned vet. his INT in redzone was FIRST EVER. he was trying to make a play that wasnt there. he will learn. he faced a great defense tonight with a young and raw OL.
Right down to the garbage time drive that makes the game look closer than it actually was.
OL is still garbage. Secondary is still garbage. Defense still can't get stops when they need one. And as far as "oh, they competed!" goes, they have played a lot of games just like this over the past three years including against good teams.
Three Dave Gettleman offseasons and the talent level still sucks.
i swear you are the MOST NEGATIVE dude ever
the OL isnt "garbage" they are a young unit in their first game together. thomas looks like the goods. the OL is a sum of parts, takes time to gel. the secondary you HAD to know was gonna struggle. they have 4th and 5th rounders starting. they are missing 2nd and 3rd corner and starting FS.
but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
No question
we wont be pickin #1. and IF we were, we would trade down and take the picks. jones is the goods. you guys just hate gettleman, its almost like youre rooting for jones to suck. kid hasnt even started 16 games in his career and he runs the offense like a seasoned vet. his INT in redzone was FIRST EVER. he was trying to make a play that wasnt there. he will learn. he faced a great defense tonight with a young and raw OL.
If we are picking #1, we have way bigger problems than qb. I like Jones quite a bit. I'm a big fan and I like what I've seen from the kid. He is not the problem. The problem is what it's been for quite a while. The Oline needs to be better.
That being said, if the giants do find themselves in that position, you take Lawrence. That kid is a generational talent IMO. You deal Jones for pick(s).
He is an example of why we are a bad football team. We hold on to players who on paper show talent like speed but when they step onto the field they shit the bed. He shits the bed and or gets hurt. Enough is enough. How is he even in uniform. He sucks
New OC
New DC
2nd year QB
Rookie OLT
Sortend off-season
They play a SB contender hard till the 4rth
And you ain't excited? Yoy are fucking crazy
FACTS. i have no ill feelings about tonight. keep grinding and get better
Exactly how I feel....week 1 is always a crapshoot anyhow, ESPECIALLY with the circumstances as the are this year. Just want to see improvement from week to week, correct whats correctable, keep competing. Gonna take some time to work all these new guys in.
but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
No question
we wont be pickin #1. and IF we were, we would trade down and take the picks. jones is the goods. you guys just hate gettleman, its almost like youre rooting for jones to suck. kid hasnt even started 16 games in his career and he runs the offense like a seasoned vet. his INT in redzone was FIRST EVER. he was trying to make a play that wasnt there. he will learn. he faced a great defense tonight with a young and raw OL.
He is an example of why we are a bad football team. We hold on to players who on paper show talent like speed but when they step onto the field they shit the bed. He shits the bed and or gets hurt. Enough is enough. How is he even in uniform. He sucks
Engram is not good at football
RE: In like Jones im one of his biggest defenders on here
but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
its still doesn't fix the giants need at least 2 more top tier OL, an elite pass rushing, and at least one more good player in the secondary.
Jones is fine (he isn't going to be dominant) but neither was Eli. The giants won because they had good O-line and a dominant pass rush. We need those.
The only thing I require is DG doesn't make those decsions he clearly has no ability to build an NFL roster. 3 straight years we have the same problems.
but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
No question
we wont be pickin #1. and IF we were, we would trade down and take the picks. jones is the goods. you guys just hate gettleman, its almost like youre rooting for jones to suck. kid hasnt even started 16 games in his career and he runs the offense like a seasoned vet. his INT in redzone was FIRST EVER. he was trying to make a play that wasnt there. he will learn. he faced a great defense tonight with a young and raw OL.
He is an example of why we are a bad football team. We hold on to players who on paper show talent like speed but when they step onto the field they shit the bed. He shits the bed and or gets hurt. Enough is enough. How is he even in uniform. He sucks
How can you actually watch that game and think Jones isn’t good? Zero running game. Zero. A great play by Watt on the first int on a designed quick read pass, and just a bad decision on his last one. He threw a 3rd and 13 laser to get them off the goal line to start that drive! Without that they would have been punting from the back of their end zone And likely would have resulted in the same thing
but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
its still doesn't fix the giants need at least 2 more top tier OL, an elite pass rushing, and at least one more good player in the secondary.
Jones is fine (he isn't going to be dominant) but neither was Eli. The giants won because they had good O-line and a dominant pass rush. We need those.
The only thing I require is DG doesn't make those decsions he clearly has no ability to build an NFL roster. 3 straight years we have the same problems.
There were a couple of drives where he looked elite tonight. But I also understand the argument for rebooting with a chance to upgrade the most important position in the game and in professional sports.
Is the real deal I like what I see from this young defense and if we can move the ball verses that Steelers defense then im not worried about the Giants we are on the right track.
RE: RE: RE: In like Jones im one of his biggest defenders on here
but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
its still doesn't fix the giants need at least 2 more top tier OL, an elite pass rushing, and at least one more good player in the secondary.
Jones is fine (he isn't going to be dominant) but neither was Eli. The giants won because they had good O-line and a dominant pass rush. We need those.
The only thing I require is DG doesn't make those decsions he clearly has no ability to build an NFL roster. 3 straight years we have the same problems.
There were a couple of drives where he looked elite tonight. But I also understand the argument for rebooting with a chance to upgrade the most important position in the game and in professional sports.
he will be a good NFL qb. I don't think he is the issue. That was my arguement. He makes enough good plays to make you think he will be fine. Lawerence still doesn't fact we can't run block, we can't guard any WR's, or we can't sack the QB.
All those posistions of need require high draft picks to get good ones.
The truth of the matter is that Big Ben looked extremely competent and the rest of the AFC is in trouble. If DJ doesn't throw that terrible pick after like `12 passes everyone is talking about this differently. Fumbles? Against the elite defense of the NFL? We all know it was one thing he needed to clean up and it didn't happen tonigth. And he got hit tonight so where are the haters?
The defense looked great for 2 quarters. They run out of steam. Some great plays. Lost their confidence with the second interceptions. Jones makes BIG mistakes at critical times and the team just quit after the 3rd quarter. Understand that OL takes time but fans can only have patience for so long. At the moment is average. And a little sarcasm, I think we would hear from the coach that we had a great practice. Lol
RE: RE: In like Jones im one of his biggest defenders on here
but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
its still doesn't fix the giants need at least 2 more top tier OL, an elite pass rushing, and at least one more good player in the secondary.
Jones is fine (he isn't going to be dominant) but neither was Eli. The giants won because they had good O-line and a dominant pass rush. We need those.
The only thing I require is DG doesn't make those decsions he clearly has no ability to build an NFL roster. 3 straight years we have the same problems.
Eli was dominant. I'll point out 2 reasons why:
* Literally every WR and TE the Giants had during the Eli tenure except Visanthe Shiancoe left the Giants and was nowhere near as good.
* The 2011 Giants were 26th in defense, 32nd in rushing yards, 32nd in yards per carry, and 32nd in giving up QB pressures. Eli threw that team into a ring.
RE: If you come across this game as a negative, don't know what to say.
The truth of the matter is that Big Ben looked extremely competent and the rest of the AFC is in trouble. If DJ doesn't throw that terrible pick after like `12 passes everyone is talking about this differently. Fumbles? Against the elite defense of the NFL? We all know it was one thing he needed to clean up and it didn't happen tonigth. And he got hit tonight so where are the haters?
The team looked improved. The defense looked good. DJ makes HUGE mistakes at critical times. It’s like he chokes at a very critical point of the game. He takes away all the good things he does throughout the game. Is that a hater or just a fact? The team also looked as the game was over at half time. It’s an observation. Did you see anything different? Fans are tired for loosing year after year.
NONE i think 3 all weekend. the refs arel etting em play
Yeah, I can't remember an OL for either team being called for holding.
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He made a bonehead play, but let’s not go crazy
It was a bad decision. He also had a Mahomes style drive the previous 18 plays. He basically drove the team 90 yards himself. Gotta relax a little there. Kid can play.
I'll post it tomorrow. Only 5 offensive holding penalties called across all games this week
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I'll post it tomorrow. Only 5 offensive holding penalties called across all games this week
yea insane. i find it so hard to believe i saw a hold in leonard williams earlier
No question
I doubt they'll be that bad. But yes.
Agreed on that. He is a special talent at qb.
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but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
No question
we wont be pickin #1. and IF we were, we would trade down and take the picks. jones is the goods. you guys just hate gettleman, its almost like youre rooting for jones to suck. kid hasnt even started 16 games in his career and he runs the offense like a seasoned vet. his INT in redzone was FIRST EVER. he was trying to make a play that wasnt there. he will learn. he faced a great defense tonight with a young and raw OL.
You sound like the Fire Coughlin "fans" from 06
Yeah that was not great game management. Had to burn a time out on defense too. Not a crisp game by the sideline.
OL is still garbage. Secondary is still garbage. Defense still can't get stops when they need one. And as far as "oh, they competed!" goes, they have played a lot of games just like this over the past three years including against good teams.
Three Dave Gettleman offseasons and the talent level still sucks.
Only Mara knows
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but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
No question
we wont be pickin #1. and IF we were, we would trade down and take the picks. jones is the goods. you guys just hate gettleman, its almost like youre rooting for jones to suck. kid hasnt even started 16 games in his career and he runs the offense like a seasoned vet. his INT in redzone was FIRST EVER. he was trying to make a play that wasnt there. he will learn. he faced a great defense tonight with a young and raw OL.
This is such a spot on post!
OL is still garbage. Secondary is still garbage. Defense still can't get stops when they need one. And as far as "oh, they competed!" goes, they have played a lot of games just like this over the past three years including against good teams.
Three Dave Gettleman offseasons and the talent level still sucks.
i swear you are the MOST NEGATIVE dude ever
the OL isnt "garbage" they are a young unit in their first game together. thomas looks like the goods. the OL is a sum of parts, takes time to gel. the secondary you HAD to know was gonna struggle. they have 4th and 5th rounders starting. they are missing 2nd and 3rd corner and starting FS.
we all knew that unit would have growing pains
Stop. The fire Gettleman guys might put their pitchforks down.
Ahh who the fuck am I kidding. They are superglued to their hands...
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but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
No question
we wont be pickin #1. and IF we were, we would trade down and take the picks. jones is the goods. you guys just hate gettleman, its almost like youre rooting for jones to suck. kid hasnt even started 16 games in his career and he runs the offense like a seasoned vet. his INT in redzone was FIRST EVER. he was trying to make a play that wasnt there. he will learn. he faced a great defense tonight with a young and raw OL.
If we are picking #1, we have way bigger problems than qb. I like Jones quite a bit. I'm a big fan and I like what I've seen from the kid. He is not the problem. The problem is what it's been for quite a while. The Oline needs to be better.
That being said, if the giants do find themselves in that position, you take Lawrence. That kid is a generational talent IMO. You deal Jones for pick(s).
Okay, but they still had to drive the field and Jones had to make some plays. Do you think Pittsburgh wanted them to score?
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New OC
New DC
2nd year QB
Rookie OLT
Sortend off-season
They play a SB contender hard till the 4rth
And you ain't excited? Yoy are fucking crazy
FACTS. i have no ill feelings about tonight. keep grinding and get better
Exactly how I feel....week 1 is always a crapshoot anyhow, ESPECIALLY with the circumstances as the are this year. Just want to see improvement from week to week, correct whats correctable, keep competing. Gonna take some time to work all these new guys in.
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but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
No question
we wont be pickin #1. and IF we were, we would trade down and take the picks. jones is the goods. you guys just hate gettleman, its almost like youre rooting for jones to suck. kid hasnt even started 16 games in his career and he runs the offense like a seasoned vet. his INT in redzone was FIRST EVER. he was trying to make a play that wasnt there. he will learn. he faced a great defense tonight with a young and raw OL.
This is such a spot on post!
Thank you, Montana
Engram is not good at football
its still doesn't fix the giants need at least 2 more top tier OL, an elite pass rushing, and at least one more good player in the secondary.
Jones is fine (he isn't going to be dominant) but neither was Eli. The giants won because they had good O-line and a dominant pass rush. We need those.
The only thing I require is DG doesn't make those decsions he clearly has no ability to build an NFL roster. 3 straight years we have the same problems.
What a find
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but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
No question
we wont be pickin #1. and IF we were, we would trade down and take the picks. jones is the goods. you guys just hate gettleman, its almost like youre rooting for jones to suck. kid hasnt even started 16 games in his career and he runs the offense like a seasoned vet. his INT in redzone was FIRST EVER. he was trying to make a play that wasnt there. he will learn. he faced a great defense tonight with a young and raw OL.
This is such a spot on post!
Thank you, Montana
think he was tlaking about my comment hahah
He’s the Gary Sanchez of the Giants
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but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
its still doesn't fix the giants need at least 2 more top tier OL, an elite pass rushing, and at least one more good player in the secondary.
Jones is fine (he isn't going to be dominant) but neither was Eli. The giants won because they had good O-line and a dominant pass rush. We need those.
The only thing I require is DG doesn't make those decsions he clearly has no ability to build an NFL roster. 3 straight years we have the same problems.
There were a couple of drives where he looked elite tonight. But I also understand the argument for rebooting with a chance to upgrade the most important position in the game and in professional sports.
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but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
its still doesn't fix the giants need at least 2 more top tier OL, an elite pass rushing, and at least one more good player in the secondary.
Jones is fine (he isn't going to be dominant) but neither was Eli. The giants won because they had good O-line and a dominant pass rush. We need those.
The only thing I require is DG doesn't make those decsions he clearly has no ability to build an NFL roster. 3 straight years we have the same problems.
There were a couple of drives where he looked elite tonight. But I also understand the argument for rebooting with a chance to upgrade the most important position in the game and in professional sports.
he will be a good NFL qb. I don't think he is the issue. That was my arguement. He makes enough good plays to make you think he will be fine. Lawerence still doesn't fact we can't run block, we can't guard any WR's, or we can't sack the QB.
All those posistions of need require high draft picks to get good ones.
I was disappointed in the run-blocking mostly
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but if this team is bad enough to get the number 1 pick you take Trevor Lawrence and you dont think twice
its still doesn't fix the giants need at least 2 more top tier OL, an elite pass rushing, and at least one more good player in the secondary.
Jones is fine (he isn't going to be dominant) but neither was Eli. The giants won because they had good O-line and a dominant pass rush. We need those.
The only thing I require is DG doesn't make those decsions he clearly has no ability to build an NFL roster. 3 straight years we have the same problems.
Eli was dominant. I'll point out 2 reasons why:
* Literally every WR and TE the Giants had during the Eli tenure except Visanthe Shiancoe left the Giants and was nowhere near as good.
* The 2011 Giants were 26th in defense, 32nd in rushing yards, 32nd in yards per carry, and 32nd in giving up QB pressures. Eli threw that team into a ring.
The team looked improved. The defense looked good. DJ makes HUGE mistakes at critical times. It’s like he chokes at a very critical point of the game. He takes away all the good things he does throughout the game. Is that a hater or just a fact? The team also looked as the game was over at half time. It’s an observation. Did you see anything different? Fans are tired for loosing year after year.