He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
Anakim, I respectfully disagree. You're describing a Robbie Anderson type. Slayton is loads better. Barely into his 2nd season, he's looking like a stud and a major steal.
Agreed. This kid is good (Jones), the picks are part of the learning process. He didn’t fumble tonight against a terrific D. Brett Favre threw a shit load of picks as well and he’s on his way to the HOF. He just finished his 14th game.
has to game plan to try and stop. Not sure if Slayton is that guy. But that’s no knock, he’s a stud
You dont think teams will start to?
The dude has a 5th round rookie had 8 scores. Two tonight....the guy is a true threat with great apeed. You guys saying he isnt a #1 are jus late to the party. Kid is the goods
Would love for the Giants to have a big, long playmaker opposite of Slayton and Shepard in the slot.
I have no love lost for Tate, and I’ll give him his props for his production last year, but my goodness I hope the Giants aren’t paying him 10M next year.
Doesn’t really matter but I think of a no 1 WR as a go to threat when the game is on the line, requires double teams and makes everyone else better by drawing coverage. That is not Slayton yet but he has been damn good!
Doesn’t really matter but I think of a no 1 WR as a go to threat when the game is on the line, requires double teams and makes everyone else better by drawing coverage. That is not Slayton yet but he has been damn good!
Doesn’t really matter but I think of a no 1 WR as a go to threat when the game is on the line, requires double teams and makes everyone else better by drawing coverage. That is not Slayton yet but he has been damn good!
Doesn’t really matter but I think of a no 1 WR as a go to threat when the game is on the line, requires double teams and makes everyone else better by drawing coverage. That is not Slayton yet but he has been damn good!
He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?
Not at all. How is he a #1? It's rare to find a true #1 WR. What Slayton is a really good #2/outside WR. He's not Michael Thomas. He's not Mike Evans. He's not Julio Jones. He's not Nuk Hopkins. Not Davante, not Cooper, not Diggs, not Kupp...
With that said, this is his second year. Could he become a #1 guy? Possibly, but he's not there yet. He's a promising young WR, but I'm not even close to anointing him as a #1 WR.
He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Dude wtf are you talking about. Not even close? Who the fuck deemed you the second coming of gill brandt? The guy is playing his 17th career game, goes off against a great D, but hey, you know what he is.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: A true #1 WR? No, no he's not.
He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?
Not at all. How is he a #1? It's rare to find a true #1 WR. What Slayton is a really good #2/outside WR. He's not Michael Thomas. He's not Mike Evans. He's not Julio Jones. He's not Nuk Hopkins. Not Davante, not Cooper, not Diggs, not Kupp...
With that said, this is his second year. Could he become a #1 guy? Possibly, but he's not there yet. He's a promising young WR, but I'm not even close to anointing him as a #1 WR.
He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?
Not at all. How is he a #1? It's rare to find a true #1 WR. What Slayton is a really good #2/outside WR. He's not Michael Thomas. He's not Mike Evans. He's not Julio Jones. He's not Nuk Hopkins. Not Davante, not Cooper, not Diggs, not Kupp...
With that said, this is his second year. Could he become a #1 guy? Possibly, but he's not there yet. He's a promising young WR, but I'm not even close to anointing him as a #1 WR.
Please give me your definition of a #1
A dominant go-to WR who can produce in all facets of the passing game. Reliable hands, expert route runner, TD producer, speedy, excellent after the catch.
15 games doesn't anoint one as all that. Slayton is promising and has already cemented himself as a promising #2. He's not all the things I listed above yet.
That against a true shut down #1 corner then you can say he’s a #1 receiver. Until then he’s a nice #2.
Mike evans had 1 catch against a lrgit corner so is he not a #1??
Dumb argument
Mike Evans has 6 straight 1000 yard seasons. He’s burned a ton of No. 1 corners over his career. To compare him to Slayton is laughable.
Nobody was comparing the two, i simply said him having a bad game against a good corner doesnt mean he isnt a #1 reading comp goes a long way
No dude you are changing your argument to cover for your dumbass reasoning. Slayton is a nice receiver. Glad we have him. But to say he’s a No. 1 receiver, when he’s a 5th round pick 17 games into his career, is laughable.
And you don’t have to be Evans to be good. He’s not Stephen diggs? Oh really? He’s not kupp??? Kupp is a slot wr. Apples and oranges.
Slayton is on a terrific trajectory. Just because he wasn’t on your draft radar and went 5th doesn’t mean he can’t be a viable starting WR. He might be better than diggs by the way. He’s got better deep end speed for one thing. It took diggs two full seasons to score 7 tds. Slayton has 10 in nearly half the time.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: A true #1 WR? No, no he's not.
He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?
Not at all. How is he a #1? It's rare to find a true #1 WR. What Slayton is a really good #2/outside WR. He's not Michael Thomas. He's not Mike Evans. He's not Julio Jones. He's not Nuk Hopkins. Not Davante, not Cooper, not Diggs, not Kupp...
With that said, this is his second year. Could he become a #1 guy? Possibly, but he's not there yet. He's a promising young WR, but I'm not even close to anointing him as a #1 WR.
Please give me your definition of a #1
A dominant go-to WR who can produce in all facets of the passing game. Reliable hands, expert route runner, TD producer, speedy, excellent after the catch.
15 games doesn't anoint one as all that. Slayton is promising and has already cemented himself as a promising #2. He's not all the things I listed above yet.
You deacribed him as a speedy deep threat but he has been way more than that. He is a good route runner and has made catches in traffic, moved the chains, etc. I think youre really putting him a box by sayong he is a good #2 and just a speedy deep threat. Really lazy analysis and im.surprised its coming from you. For the first 17 gamea of his career he has shown he can be counted on as a go to playmaker and TD producer. He is projecting to be way better than a good #2
That against a true shut down #1 corner then you can say he’s a #1 receiver. Until then he’s a nice #2.
Mike evans had 1 catch against a lrgit corner so is he not a #1??
Dumb argument
Mike Evans has 6 straight 1000 yard seasons. He’s burned a ton of No. 1 corners over his career. To compare him to Slayton is laughable.
Nobody was comparing the two, i simply said him having a bad game against a good corner doesnt mean he isnt a #1 reading comp goes a long way
By that same token, having a good game against a good corner doesn't make him a #1 WR.
It feels like I'm bashing Slayton, which I'm not. I'm just pointing out that the sample size is small and I'm not ready to anoint him as one of the top WRs in the NFL. Could he get to that point? Yes. Is he there now? No.
The way I see it, you have Slayton, a promising young outside WR and two productive and reliable slot guys (though Shep lines up on the outside). This team still needs an outside WR, preferably someone with size.
The #1 WR can boil down to being the best on their team. I love this description:
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A dominant go-to WR who can produce in all facets of the passing game. Reliable hands, expert route runner, TD producer, speedy, excellent after the catch.
15 games doesn't anoint one as all that. Slayton is promising and has already cemented himself as a promising #2. He's not all the things I listed above yet.
By that definition, probably 65% of the league doesn't have a guy qualify as one. Hell, the Cowboys would be the only team in the division with one.
And you don’t have to be Evans to be good. He’s not Stephen diggs? Oh really? He’s not kupp??? Kupp is a slot wr. Apples and oranges.
Slayton is on a terrific trajectory. Just because he wasn’t on your draft radar and went 5th doesn’t mean he can’t be a viable starting WR. He might be better than diggs by the way. He’s got better deep end speed for one thing. It took diggs two full seasons to score 7 tds. Slayton has 10 in nearly half the time.
And that's the key word, isn't it? Trajectory. Yes, he's on a terrific trajectory and he's proven he can be a starting WR. He hasn't proven he can be a #1 WR.
Diggs is better right now than Slayton. He's been more productive to this point. That doesn't mean that will always be the case. If Slayton continues to produce and improve, we may be having a different conversation a year from now.
faster than a Nicks but more slender so he needs to create space since he’s not out muscling guys. His YPC is definite #1 material, small sample size but better than Beckham’s best years. Curious to see how he excels in the league - does he keep the speed or try to get a bit bigger?
Take a look at what he did last year on 84 targets and prorate that out for even 50% more (top WRs get double the targets typically).
And you don’t have to be Evans to be good. He’s not Stephen diggs? Oh really? He’s not kupp??? Kupp is a slot wr. Apples and oranges.
Slayton is on a terrific trajectory. Just because he wasn’t on your draft radar and went 5th doesn’t mean he can’t be a viable starting WR. He might be better than diggs by the way. He’s got better deep end speed for one thing. It took diggs two full seasons to score 7 tds. Slayton has 10 in nearly half the time.
And that's the key word, isn't it? Trajectory. Yes, he's on a terrific trajectory and he's proven he can be a starting WR. He hasn't proven he can be a #1 WR.
Diggs is better right now than Slayton. He's been more productive to this point. That doesn't mean that will always be the case. If Slayton continues to produce and improve, we may be having a different conversation a year from now.
when you're in a hole, just stop digging.
You made a snap judgment, we all have done it, you're off base, move on.
just my advice.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: A true #1 WR? No, no he's not.
He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?
Not at all. How is he a #1? It's rare to find a true #1 WR. What Slayton is a really good #2/outside WR. He's not Michael Thomas. He's not Mike Evans. He's not Julio Jones. He's not Nuk Hopkins. Not Davante, not Cooper, not Diggs, not Kupp...
With that said, this is his second year. Could he become a #1 guy? Possibly, but he's not there yet. He's a promising young WR, but I'm not even close to anointing him as a #1 WR.
Please give me your definition of a #1
A dominant go-to WR who can produce in all facets of the passing game. Reliable hands, expert route runner, TD producer, speedy, excellent after the catch.
15 games doesn't anoint one as all that. Slayton is promising and has already cemented himself as a promising #2. He's not all the things I listed above yet.
You deacribed him as a speedy deep threat but he has been way more than that. He is a good route runner and has made catches in traffic, moved the chains, etc. I think youre really putting him a box by sayong he is a good #2 and just a speedy deep threat. Really lazy analysis and im.surprised its coming from you. For the first 17 gamea of his career he has shown he can be counted on as a go to playmaker and TD producer. He is projecting to be way better than a good #2
You said it yourself, BB. Projecting to be way better. I agree with you there. But he's not there now. I'm not really sure why we're putting the carriage before the horse.
don’t know what you are trying to prove. He had a big boy #1 WR game today, made all sorts of catches, pulled in 2 scores. If he keeps this up why are we waiting until the end of the year?
I am hanging up the phone if buffalo calls offering diggs at even money for slayton. I’m laughing them off the phone. Kupp? Same.
17 games. He missed most of camp last year and didn’t miss a beat this summer. He’s going to have a huge season.
Agreed.
They are confusing a top wr in football eith a #1 wr. Nobody said he is top 10 but he is clearly a #1
This was my point with the post. He’s a legitimate #1 WR in the league. I’m not saying he is Michael Thomas. He could end up being that good, time will tell.
I think Anakim is confusing #1 with something else.
You don't have to be Michael Thomas or Julio Jones or DeAndre Hopkins to be a #1 WR.
Slayton is absolutely a legit #1.
And for that matter, compare Julio Jones rookie stats with Slayton's. Not that much different.
Slayton's were better than DeAndre Hopkins.
and you can do the rest of the work yourself.
Agree with this post.
Ideally we have another guy as good or better across from him if we were looking to contend, but he's a viable lead receiver. He's added a lot to his game and much earlier than Toomer. Let's hope the trajectory continues.
A No. 1 WR is a guy that the team can go to for short, long, or intermediate range. They are the guys that draw the other teams No. 1 CB. There’s seriously 15-20 true No. 1 receivers in the entire NFL. It’s way too early to declare Slayton one of those guys. Let’s just see how it plays out.
don’t know what you are trying to prove. He had a big boy #1 WR game today, made all sorts of catches, pulled in 2 scores. If he keeps this up why are we waiting until the end of the year?
He’s our #1 WR right now.
Exactly
If he isnt a #1, he is a big possession guy on outside or a slot guy. He is neither of those. He is clearly a main target playmaker who produces TDs has speed, draws coverage and can work the entire route tree.
don’t know what you are trying to prove. He had a big boy #1 WR game today, made all sorts of catches, pulled in 2 scores. If he keeps this up why are we waiting until the end of the year?
He’s our #1 WR right now.
It's been one game, UConn. That's my whole point. Why shouldn't we wait for the end of the year instead of focusing on a small sample size?
A No. 1 WR is a guy that the team can go to for short, long, or intermediate range. They are the guys that draw the other teams No. 1 CB. There’s seriously 15-20 true No. 1 receivers in the entire NFL. It’s way too early to declare Slayton one of those guys. Let’s just see how it plays out.
I agree its early but slayton works the entire route tree. Thats barely debatable....
A No. 1 WR is a guy that the team can go to for short, long, or intermediate range. They are the guys that draw the other teams No. 1 CB. There’s seriously 15-20 true No. 1 receivers in the entire NFL. It’s way too early to declare Slayton one of those guys. Let’s just see how it plays out.
I agree with this. Jury is out, but Slayton is promising.
don’t know what you are trying to prove. He had a big boy #1 WR game today, made all sorts of catches, pulled in 2 scores. If he keeps this up why are we waiting until the end of the year?
He’s our #1 WR right now.
It's been one game, UConn. That's my whole point. Why shouldn't we wait for the end of the year instead of focusing on a small sample size?
Please tell me you aren't ignorant enough to think that's one good game against a decent DB?
Of course not. But you didn't see any threads about Slayton being a #1 WR last year, did you? So why does one game change anything?
Slayton is a promising young WR. He's proven he can play in the NFL. Let's hope he continues to produce and improve.
He was a 5th round pick, he was not expected to produce like this so it was a surprise and people thought maybe it was a fluke. If he was a 1st round pick the opinions may be different and he wouldn't have to prove himself as much.
it does not appear that it is a fluke and he is legit.
A No. 1 WR is a guy that the team can go to for short, long, or intermediate range. They are the guys that draw the other teams No. 1 CB. There’s seriously 15-20 true No. 1 receivers in the entire NFL. It’s way too early to declare Slayton one of those guys. Let’s just see how it plays out.
I agree its early but slayton works the entire route tree. Thats barely debatable....
A No. 1 WR is a guy that the team can go to for short, long, or intermediate range. They are the guys that draw the other teams No. 1 CB. There’s seriously 15-20 true No. 1 receivers in the entire NFL. It’s way too early to declare Slayton one of those guys. Let’s just see how it plays out.
I agree with this. Jury is out, but Slayton is promising.
Sure we can wait but your snap judgemebt of he is a good #2 just a speedy deep threat was what i attacked. It was a poor and lazy analysis of what he is
don’t know what you are trying to prove. He had a big boy #1 WR game today, made all sorts of catches, pulled in 2 scores. If he keeps this up why are we waiting until the end of the year?
He’s our #1 WR right now.
It's been one game, UConn. That's my whole point. Why shouldn't we wait for the end of the year instead of focusing on a small sample size?
It hasn’t been one game. Why doesn’t last year count? There’s a lot of rules to this all of a sudden.
I think your first comment should have been lets pump breaks and not the he is a good #2 , a speedy deep threat because as mentioned he is more. All good just expected a better analysis from you brotha. All good
A No. 1 WR is a guy that the team can go to for short, long, or intermediate range. They are the guys that draw the other teams No. 1 CB. There’s seriously 15-20 true No. 1 receivers in the entire NFL. It’s way too early to declare Slayton one of those guys. Let’s just see how it plays out.
I agree with this. Jury is out, but Slayton is promising.
Sure we can wait but your snap judgemebt of he is a good #2 just a speedy deep threat was what i attacked. It was a poor and lazy analysis of what he is
That's fair, but I do think that's what he is right now. He's a good #2 WR with room for growth. And again, it's not meant to be a bash. I'm extremely encouraged by his trajectory and by his play. I mean he got over 100 yards in a game where Saquon was bottled, Shepard was the only other WR threat (and he's misplaced as an outside guy) and Tate didn't even play. It was a great game by Slayton. I'd just like to see more of games like this.
don’t know what you are trying to prove. He had a big boy #1 WR game today, made all sorts of catches, pulled in 2 scores. If he keeps this up why are we waiting until the end of the year?
He’s our #1 WR right now.
It's been one game, UConn. That's my whole point. Why shouldn't we wait for the end of the year instead of focusing on a small sample size?
It hasn’t been one game. Why doesn’t last year count? There’s a lot of rules to this all of a sudden.
You didn't have question marks about Slayton last year? And one game dispels any concerns you had?
when there's really no one else at wideout that scares anyone. Tate isn't really a threat. Shepard has been the definition of mediocre his whole career.
Slayton may end up being a "1B" type receiver, meaning superb
We shall see but with his speed and defenses pinching up to stop Barkley he could be grabbing a lot of good deep balls this year. That will make safeties honest.
another conversation about real football. Some seem to be using the FF version of "#1 WR" here.
Haven't played FF in 13 years. See it as a conflict of interests.
You wonder why you take shit after a post like this??
You don't play FF because you fancy yourself to be a future NFL GM? If I was drinking a beer when I read that, I'd have snarfed it out of every hole and shart myself.
RE: RE: RE: I get the feeling that fantasy football is ruining
another conversation about real football. Some seem to be using the FF version of "#1 WR" here.
Haven't played FF in 13 years. See it as a conflict of interests.
You don't play FF because you fancy yourself to be a future NFL GM? If I was drinking a beer when I read that, I'd have snarfed it out of every hole and shart myself.
You misunderstood. I don't play FF because it would mean I would have to root for players against the Giants interests. I would have to root for players in the NFC, particularly the NFC East, even if it was detrimental to the Giants hopes for the playoffs. I can't do that. And if I'm unable to pick what I deem to be the best players, there's no point in me playing.
And you don’t have to be Evans to be good. He’s not Stephen diggs? Oh really? He’s not kupp??? Kupp is a slot wr. Apples and oranges.
Slayton is on a terrific trajectory. Just because he wasn’t on your draft radar and went 5th doesn’t mean he can’t be a viable starting WR. He might be better than diggs by the way. He’s got better deep end speed for one thing. It took diggs two full seasons to score 7 tds. Slayton has 10 in nearly half the time.
And that's the key word, isn't it? Trajectory. Yes, he's on a terrific trajectory and he's proven he can be a starting WR. He hasn't proven he can be a #1 WR.
Diggs is better right now than Slayton. He's been more productive to this point. That doesn't mean that will always be the case. If Slayton continues to produce and improve, we may be having a different conversation a year from now.
Ill say it again, I would laugh Buffalo off the phone if they offered Diggs straight up for Slayton and I don't think it's a stretch to say Slayton is more explosive than Diggs already.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
Anakim, I respectfully disagree. You're describing a Robbie Anderson type. Slayton is loads better. Barely into his 2nd season, he's looking like a stud and a major steal.
He has value and is a playmaker - something this team lacks. We need to give Jones more weapons, not less. He's a pro-bowl caliber TE when healthy.
Agreed. This kid is good (Jones), the picks are part of the learning process. He didn’t fumble tonight against a terrific D. Brett Favre threw a shit load of picks as well and he’s on his way to the HOF. He just finished his 14th game.
You dont think teams will start to?
The dude has a 5th round rookie had 8 scores. Two tonight....the guy is a true threat with great apeed. You guys saying he isnt a #1 are jus late to the party. Kid is the goods
+1
Its likenour fanbase hates the team and DG so much even when a guy is proven good he sucks.
Cant both be true?
FACT jones looks good slayton looks good
DG has done plenty wrong but he has done a ton of good
Martinez and bradberry are solid adds
The obj trade is looking better by the day
Jones looks like a franchise guy
He found a gem in slayton
Geez, people act like we jus lost bt 40 to jets.
I have no love lost for Tate, and I’ll give him his props for his production last year, but my goodness I hope the Giants aren’t paying him 10M next year.
Can somebody for the LOVE OF GOD make an argument as to why he isnt a #1?
Slayton isnt a go too? In 17 games he has 10 TDs
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Mike evans had 1 catch against a lrgit corner so is he not a #1??
Dumb argument
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
Clueless as usual. Keep it up, you're constantly entertaining for your shitty takes and "rankings".
Still jealous of me after all these years. I really feel sorry for you, Joey.
He has value and is a playmaker - something this team lacks. We need to give Jones more weapons, not less. He's a pro-bowl caliber TE when healthy.
Slayton? He's not even a TE, you nut
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?
Not at all. How is he a #1? It's rare to find a true #1 WR. What Slayton is a really good #2/outside WR. He's not Michael Thomas. He's not Mike Evans. He's not Julio Jones. He's not Nuk Hopkins. Not Davante, not Cooper, not Diggs, not Kupp...
With that said, this is his second year. Could he become a #1 guy? Possibly, but he's not there yet. He's a promising young WR, but I'm not even close to anointing him as a #1 WR.
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Dude wtf are you talking about. Not even close? Who the fuck deemed you the second coming of gill brandt? The guy is playing his 17th career game, goes off against a great D, but hey, you know what he is.
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?
Not at all. How is he a #1? It's rare to find a true #1 WR. What Slayton is a really good #2/outside WR. He's not Michael Thomas. He's not Mike Evans. He's not Julio Jones. He's not Nuk Hopkins. Not Davante, not Cooper, not Diggs, not Kupp...
With that said, this is his second year. Could he become a #1 guy? Possibly, but he's not there yet. He's a promising young WR, but I'm not even close to anointing him as a #1 WR.
Please give me your definition of a #1
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That against a true shut down #1 corner then you can say he’s a #1 receiver. Until then he’s a nice #2.
Mike evans had 1 catch against a lrgit corner so is he not a #1??
Dumb argument
Mike Evans has 6 straight 1000 yard seasons. He’s burned a ton of No. 1 corners over his career. To compare him to Slayton is laughable.
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That against a true shut down #1 corner then you can say he’s a #1 receiver. Until then he’s a nice #2.
Mike evans had 1 catch against a lrgit corner so is he not a #1??
Dumb argument
Mike Evans has 6 straight 1000 yard seasons. He’s burned a ton of No. 1 corners over his career. To compare him to Slayton is laughable.
Nobody was comparing the two, i simply said him having a bad game against a good corner doesnt mean he isnt a #1 reading comp goes a long way
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?
Not at all. How is he a #1? It's rare to find a true #1 WR. What Slayton is a really good #2/outside WR. He's not Michael Thomas. He's not Mike Evans. He's not Julio Jones. He's not Nuk Hopkins. Not Davante, not Cooper, not Diggs, not Kupp...
With that said, this is his second year. Could he become a #1 guy? Possibly, but he's not there yet. He's a promising young WR, but I'm not even close to anointing him as a #1 WR.
Please give me your definition of a #1
A dominant go-to WR who can produce in all facets of the passing game. Reliable hands, expert route runner, TD producer, speedy, excellent after the catch.
15 games doesn't anoint one as all that. Slayton is promising and has already cemented himself as a promising #2. He's not all the things I listed above yet.
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Define a #1 receiver. He doesn't have to be 2015 Beckham to be a #1.
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That against a true shut down #1 corner then you can say he’s a #1 receiver. Until then he’s a nice #2.
Mike evans had 1 catch against a lrgit corner so is he not a #1??
Dumb argument
Mike Evans has 6 straight 1000 yard seasons. He’s burned a ton of No. 1 corners over his career. To compare him to Slayton is laughable.
Nobody was comparing the two, i simply said him having a bad game against a good corner doesnt mean he isnt a #1 reading comp goes a long way
No dude you are changing your argument to cover for your dumbass reasoning. Slayton is a nice receiver. Glad we have him. But to say he’s a No. 1 receiver, when he’s a 5th round pick 17 games into his career, is laughable.
Slayton is on a terrific trajectory. Just because he wasn’t on your draft radar and went 5th doesn’t mean he can’t be a viable starting WR. He might be better than diggs by the way. He’s got better deep end speed for one thing. It took diggs two full seasons to score 7 tds. Slayton has 10 in nearly half the time.
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?
Not at all. How is he a #1? It's rare to find a true #1 WR. What Slayton is a really good #2/outside WR. He's not Michael Thomas. He's not Mike Evans. He's not Julio Jones. He's not Nuk Hopkins. Not Davante, not Cooper, not Diggs, not Kupp...
With that said, this is his second year. Could he become a #1 guy? Possibly, but he's not there yet. He's a promising young WR, but I'm not even close to anointing him as a #1 WR.
Please give me your definition of a #1
A dominant go-to WR who can produce in all facets of the passing game. Reliable hands, expert route runner, TD producer, speedy, excellent after the catch.
15 games doesn't anoint one as all that. Slayton is promising and has already cemented himself as a promising #2. He's not all the things I listed above yet.
You deacribed him as a speedy deep threat but he has been way more than that. He is a good route runner and has made catches in traffic, moved the chains, etc. I think youre really putting him a box by sayong he is a good #2 and just a speedy deep threat. Really lazy analysis and im.surprised its coming from you. For the first 17 gamea of his career he has shown he can be counted on as a go to playmaker and TD producer. He is projecting to be way better than a good #2
I think Anakim is confusing #1 with something else.
You don't have to be Michael Thomas or Julio Jones or DeAndre Hopkins to be a #1 WR.
Slayton is absolutely a legit #1.
And for that matter, compare Julio Jones rookie stats with Slayton's. Not that much different.
Slayton's were better than DeAndre Hopkins.
and you can do the rest of the work yourself.
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That against a true shut down #1 corner then you can say he’s a #1 receiver. Until then he’s a nice #2.
Mike evans had 1 catch against a lrgit corner so is he not a #1??
Dumb argument
Mike Evans has 6 straight 1000 yard seasons. He’s burned a ton of No. 1 corners over his career. To compare him to Slayton is laughable.
Nobody was comparing the two, i simply said him having a bad game against a good corner doesnt mean he isnt a #1 reading comp goes a long way
By that same token, having a good game against a good corner doesn't make him a #1 WR.
It feels like I'm bashing Slayton, which I'm not. I'm just pointing out that the sample size is small and I'm not ready to anoint him as one of the top WRs in the NFL. Could he get to that point? Yes. Is he there now? No.
The way I see it, you have Slayton, a promising young outside WR and two productive and reliable slot guys (though Shep lines up on the outside). This team still needs an outside WR, preferably someone with size.
15 games doesn't anoint one as all that. Slayton is promising and has already cemented himself as a promising #2. He's not all the things I listed above yet.
By that definition, probably 65% of the league doesn't have a guy qualify as one. Hell, the Cowboys would be the only team in the division with one.
To be a #1, you dont have to be top 10 in football lol
17 games. He missed most of camp last year and didn’t miss a beat this summer. He’s going to have a huge season.
Please tell me you aren't ignorant enough to think that's one good game against a decent DB?
17 games. He missed most of camp last year and didn’t miss a beat this summer. He’s going to have a huge season.
Agreed.
They are confusing a top wr in football eith a #1 wr. Nobody said he is top 10 but he is clearly a #1
Please tell me you aren't ignorant enough to think that's one good game against a decent DB?
and only 9 starts because he was a 5th round rookie with Shepard and Tate (at least) ahead of him on the depth chart.
Slayton is on a terrific trajectory. Just because he wasn’t on your draft radar and went 5th doesn’t mean he can’t be a viable starting WR. He might be better than diggs by the way. He’s got better deep end speed for one thing. It took diggs two full seasons to score 7 tds. Slayton has 10 in nearly half the time.
And that's the key word, isn't it? Trajectory. Yes, he's on a terrific trajectory and he's proven he can be a starting WR. He hasn't proven he can be a #1 WR.
Diggs is better right now than Slayton. He's been more productive to this point. That doesn't mean that will always be the case. If Slayton continues to produce and improve, we may be having a different conversation a year from now.
Take a look at what he did last year on 84 targets and prorate that out for even 50% more (top WRs get double the targets typically).
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And you don’t have to be Evans to be good. He’s not Stephen diggs? Oh really? He’s not kupp??? Kupp is a slot wr. Apples and oranges.
Slayton is on a terrific trajectory. Just because he wasn’t on your draft radar and went 5th doesn’t mean he can’t be a viable starting WR. He might be better than diggs by the way. He’s got better deep end speed for one thing. It took diggs two full seasons to score 7 tds. Slayton has 10 in nearly half the time.
And that's the key word, isn't it? Trajectory. Yes, he's on a terrific trajectory and he's proven he can be a starting WR. He hasn't proven he can be a #1 WR.
Diggs is better right now than Slayton. He's been more productive to this point. That doesn't mean that will always be the case. If Slayton continues to produce and improve, we may be having a different conversation a year from now.
when you're in a hole, just stop digging.
You made a snap judgment, we all have done it, you're off base, move on.
just my advice.
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?
Not at all. How is he a #1? It's rare to find a true #1 WR. What Slayton is a really good #2/outside WR. He's not Michael Thomas. He's not Mike Evans. He's not Julio Jones. He's not Nuk Hopkins. Not Davante, not Cooper, not Diggs, not Kupp...
With that said, this is his second year. Could he become a #1 guy? Possibly, but he's not there yet. He's a promising young WR, but I'm not even close to anointing him as a #1 WR.
Please give me your definition of a #1
A dominant go-to WR who can produce in all facets of the passing game. Reliable hands, expert route runner, TD producer, speedy, excellent after the catch.
15 games doesn't anoint one as all that. Slayton is promising and has already cemented himself as a promising #2. He's not all the things I listed above yet.
You deacribed him as a speedy deep threat but he has been way more than that. He is a good route runner and has made catches in traffic, moved the chains, etc. I think youre really putting him a box by sayong he is a good #2 and just a speedy deep threat. Really lazy analysis and im.surprised its coming from you. For the first 17 gamea of his career he has shown he can be counted on as a go to playmaker and TD producer. He is projecting to be way better than a good #2
You said it yourself, BB. Projecting to be way better. I agree with you there. But he's not there now. I'm not really sure why we're putting the carriage before the horse.
He’s our #1 WR right now.
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I am hanging up the phone if buffalo calls offering diggs at even money for slayton. I’m laughing them off the phone. Kupp? Same.
17 games. He missed most of camp last year and didn’t miss a beat this summer. He’s going to have a huge season.
Agreed.
They are confusing a top wr in football eith a #1 wr. Nobody said he is top 10 but he is clearly a #1
This was my point with the post. He’s a legitimate #1 WR in the league. I’m not saying he is Michael Thomas. He could end up being that good, time will tell.
I think Anakim is confusing #1 with something else.
You don't have to be Michael Thomas or Julio Jones or DeAndre Hopkins to be a #1 WR.
Slayton is absolutely a legit #1.
And for that matter, compare Julio Jones rookie stats with Slayton's. Not that much different.
Slayton's were better than DeAndre Hopkins.
and you can do the rest of the work yourself.
Agree with this post.
Ideally we have another guy as good or better across from him if we were looking to contend, but he's a viable lead receiver. He's added a lot to his game and much earlier than Toomer. Let's hope the trajectory continues.
Please tell me you aren't ignorant enough to think that's one good game against a decent DB?
Of course not. But you didn't see any threads about Slayton being a #1 WR last year, did you? So why does one game change anything?
Slayton is a promising young WR. He's proven he can play in the NFL. Let's hope he continues to produce and improve.
He’s our #1 WR right now.
Exactly
If he isnt a #1, he is a big possession guy on outside or a slot guy. He is neither of those. He is clearly a main target playmaker who produces TDs has speed, draws coverage and can work the entire route tree.
He’s our #1 WR right now.
It's been one game, UConn. That's my whole point. Why shouldn't we wait for the end of the year instead of focusing on a small sample size?
I agree its early but slayton works the entire route tree. Thats barely debatable....
I agree with this. Jury is out, but Slayton is promising.
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don’t know what you are trying to prove. He had a big boy #1 WR game today, made all sorts of catches, pulled in 2 scores. If he keeps this up why are we waiting until the end of the year?
He’s our #1 WR right now.
It's been one game, UConn. That's my whole point. Why shouldn't we wait for the end of the year instead of focusing on a small sample size?
It’s not one game, he did this last year as well.
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has 10 TD's in 17 career games.
Please tell me you aren't ignorant enough to think that's one good game against a decent DB?
Of course not. But you didn't see any threads about Slayton being a #1 WR last year, did you? So why does one game change anything?
Slayton is a promising young WR. He's proven he can play in the NFL. Let's hope he continues to produce and improve.
He was a 5th round pick, he was not expected to produce like this so it was a surprise and people thought maybe it was a fluke. If he was a 1st round pick the opinions may be different and he wouldn't have to prove himself as much.
it does not appear that it is a fluke and he is legit.
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A No. 1 WR is a guy that the team can go to for short, long, or intermediate range. They are the guys that draw the other teams No. 1 CB. There’s seriously 15-20 true No. 1 receivers in the entire NFL. It’s way too early to declare Slayton one of those guys. Let’s just see how it plays out.
I agree its early but slayton works the entire route tree. Thats barely debatable....
He's a great route runner. No doubt.
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A No. 1 WR is a guy that the team can go to for short, long, or intermediate range. They are the guys that draw the other teams No. 1 CB. There’s seriously 15-20 true No. 1 receivers in the entire NFL. It’s way too early to declare Slayton one of those guys. Let’s just see how it plays out.
I agree with this. Jury is out, but Slayton is promising.
Sure we can wait but your snap judgemebt of he is a good #2 just a speedy deep threat was what i attacked. It was a poor and lazy analysis of what he is
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don’t know what you are trying to prove. He had a big boy #1 WR game today, made all sorts of catches, pulled in 2 scores. If he keeps this up why are we waiting until the end of the year?
He’s our #1 WR right now.
It's been one game, UConn. That's my whole point. Why shouldn't we wait for the end of the year instead of focusing on a small sample size?
It hasn’t been one game. Why doesn’t last year count? There’s a lot of rules to this all of a sudden.
If only we could get OBJ sans headache...ahh well. Slay is growing on me. Need to see him take over a game on a consistent basis.
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A No. 1 WR is a guy that the team can go to for short, long, or intermediate range. They are the guys that draw the other teams No. 1 CB. There’s seriously 15-20 true No. 1 receivers in the entire NFL. It’s way too early to declare Slayton one of those guys. Let’s just see how it plays out.
I agree with this. Jury is out, but Slayton is promising.
Sure we can wait but your snap judgemebt of he is a good #2 just a speedy deep threat was what i attacked. It was a poor and lazy analysis of what he is
That's fair, but I do think that's what he is right now. He's a good #2 WR with room for growth. And again, it's not meant to be a bash. I'm extremely encouraged by his trajectory and by his play. I mean he got over 100 yards in a game where Saquon was bottled, Shepard was the only other WR threat (and he's misplaced as an outside guy) and Tate didn't even play. It was a great game by Slayton. I'd just like to see more of games like this.
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don’t know what you are trying to prove. He had a big boy #1 WR game today, made all sorts of catches, pulled in 2 scores. If he keeps this up why are we waiting until the end of the year?
He’s our #1 WR right now.
It's been one game, UConn. That's my whole point. Why shouldn't we wait for the end of the year instead of focusing on a small sample size?
It hasn’t been one game. Why doesn’t last year count? There’s a lot of rules to this all of a sudden.
You didn't have question marks about Slayton last year? And one game dispels any concerns you had?
We shall see but with his speed and defenses pinching up to stop Barkley he could be grabbing a lot of good deep balls this year. That will make safeties honest.
10TD's. Clearly #1 GOAT!!
Haven't played FF in 13 years. See it as a conflict of interests.
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another conversation about real football. Some seem to be using the FF version of "#1 WR" here.
Haven't played FF in 13 years. See it as a conflict of interests.
You wonder why you take shit after a post like this??
You don't play FF because you fancy yourself to be a future NFL GM? If I was drinking a beer when I read that, I'd have snarfed it out of every hole and shart myself.
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another conversation about real football. Some seem to be using the FF version of "#1 WR" here.
Haven't played FF in 13 years. See it as a conflict of interests.
You don't play FF because you fancy yourself to be a future NFL GM? If I was drinking a beer when I read that, I'd have snarfed it out of every hole and shart myself.
You misunderstood. I don't play FF because it would mean I would have to root for players against the Giants interests. I would have to root for players in the NFC, particularly the NFC East, even if it was detrimental to the Giants hopes for the playoffs. I can't do that. And if I'm unable to pick what I deem to be the best players, there's no point in me playing.
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And you don’t have to be Evans to be good. He’s not Stephen diggs? Oh really? He’s not kupp??? Kupp is a slot wr. Apples and oranges.
Slayton is on a terrific trajectory. Just because he wasn’t on your draft radar and went 5th doesn’t mean he can’t be a viable starting WR. He might be better than diggs by the way. He’s got better deep end speed for one thing. It took diggs two full seasons to score 7 tds. Slayton has 10 in nearly half the time.
And that's the key word, isn't it? Trajectory. Yes, he's on a terrific trajectory and he's proven he can be a starting WR. He hasn't proven he can be a #1 WR.
Diggs is better right now than Slayton. He's been more productive to this point. That doesn't mean that will always be the case. If Slayton continues to produce and improve, we may be having a different conversation a year from now.
Ill say it again, I would laugh Buffalo off the phone if they offered Diggs straight up for Slayton and I don't think it's a stretch to say Slayton is more explosive than Diggs already.
He's going to have a better year. Watch.