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Well, we lost, but we have a true #1 WR

eric2425ny : 9/14/2020 10:06 pm
Slayton, holy crap what a 5th round pick.
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He is a piece for sure  
widmerseyebrow : 9/14/2020 10:07 pm : link
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He's a great  
MookGiants : 9/14/2020 10:08 pm : link
pick for sure, not sure he'll be a true #1 but he's a very good player and a great value in the 5th round.
A true #1 WR? No, no he's not.  
Anakim : 9/14/2020 10:09 pm : link
He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
and  
BleedBlue : 9/14/2020 10:10 pm : link
a franchise QB
RE: A true #1 WR? No, no he's not.  
BleedBlue : 9/14/2020 10:10 pm : link
In comment 14971917 Anakim said:
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.


BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.
RE: A true #1 WR? No, no he's not.  
Poktown Pete : 9/14/2020 10:11 pm : link
In comment 14971917 Anakim said:
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.


Anakim, I respectfully disagree. You're describing a Robbie Anderson type. Slayton is loads better. Barely into his 2nd season, he's looking like a stud and a major steal.
Slayton  
CowboyHaters : 9/14/2020 10:11 pm : link
He’s fun to watch. Happy I have him in fantasy.
Slayton has been a bright spot  
terptacular : 9/14/2020 10:11 pm : link
Though we do need another outside WR IMO.
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Walnut : 9/14/2020 10:12 pm : link
He's an above average TE in a league that generally has a lack of talent at the position.

He has value and is a playmaker - something this team lacks. We need to give Jones more weapons, not less. He's a pro-bowl caliber TE when healthy.
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eric2425ny : 9/14/2020 10:13 pm : link
In comment 14971927 BleedBlue said:
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a franchise QB


Agreed. This kid is good (Jones), the picks are part of the learning process. He didn’t fumble tonight against a terrific D. Brett Favre threw a shit load of picks as well and he’s on his way to the HOF. He just finished his 14th game.
A true #1 is a guy the opposing team  
mfsd : 9/14/2020 10:13 pm : link
has to game plan to try and stop. Not sure if Slayton is that guy. But that’s no knock, he’s a stud
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BleedBlue : 9/14/2020 10:15 pm : link
In comment 14971954 mfsd said:
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has to game plan to try and stop. Not sure if Slayton is that guy. But that’s no knock, he’s a stud



You dont think teams will start to?

The dude has a 5th round rookie had 8 scores. Two tonight....the guy is a true threat with great apeed. You guys saying he isnt a #1 are jus late to the party. Kid is the goods
RE: A true #1 WR? No, no he's not.  
Joey in VA : 9/14/2020 10:17 pm : link
In comment 14971917 Anakim said:
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.
Clueless as usual. Keep it up, you're constantly entertaining for your shitty takes and "rankings".
I'm guessing..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/14/2020 10:19 pm : link
if a Cowboys WR had 8TD's in his first 17 games, he'd be called elite and a future HoF'er!!
Make..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/14/2020 10:19 pm : link
that 10 TD's!
There are not 32 WRs I would take ahead of Slayton  
BigBlueNH : 9/14/2020 10:19 pm : link
at this point. In that sense, he is already a #1 in my eyes. And he and Jones are only gonna get better.
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Micko : 9/14/2020 10:20 pm : link
Def not a no 1 WR yet but a threat a for sure. Very impressive pick.
He is more than jist a deep threat  
nygiants16 : 9/14/2020 10:20 pm : link
he is catching the ball over the middle and making people miss...He has been a reliable threat for jones
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BleedBlue : 9/14/2020 10:21 pm : link
In comment 14971999 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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if a Cowboys WR had 8TD's in his first 17 games, he'd be called elite and a future HoF'er!!


+1

Its likenour fanbase hates the team and DG so much even when a guy is proven good he sucks.

Cant both be true?

FACT jones looks good slayton looks good

DG has done plenty wrong but he has done a ton of good

Martinez and bradberry are solid adds

The obj trade is looking better by the day

Jones looks like a franchise guy

He found a gem in slayton

Geez, people act like we jus lost bt 40 to jets.
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christian : 9/14/2020 10:21 pm : link
Would love for the Giants to have a big, long playmaker opposite of Slayton and Shepard in the slot.

I have no love lost for Tate, and I’ll give him his props for his production last year, but my goodness I hope the Giants aren’t paying him 10M next year.
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BleedBlue : 9/14/2020 10:21 pm : link
In comment 14972006 Micko said:
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Def not a no 1 WR yet but a threat a for sure. Very impressive pick.



Can somebody for the LOVE OF GOD make an argument as to why he isnt a #1?
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Micko : 9/14/2020 10:22 pm : link
Doesn’t really matter but I think of a no 1 WR as a go to threat when the game is on the line, requires double teams and makes everyone else better by drawing coverage. That is not Slayton yet but he has been damn good!
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Micko : 9/14/2020 10:22 pm : link
Doesn’t really matter but I think of a no 1 WR as a go to threat when the game is on the line, requires double teams and makes everyone else better by drawing coverage. That is not Slayton yet but he has been damn good!
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Micko : 9/14/2020 10:23 pm : link
Doesn’t really matter but I think of a no 1 WR as a go to threat when the game is on the line, requires double teams and makes everyone else better by drawing coverage. That is not Slayton yet but he has been damn good!
If he does  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/14/2020 10:23 pm : link
That against a true shut down #1 corner then you can say he’s a #1 receiver. Until then he’s a nice #2.
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BleedBlue : 9/14/2020 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14972020 Micko said:
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Doesn’t really matter but I think of a no 1 WR as a go to threat when the game is on the line, requires double teams and makes everyone else better by drawing coverage. That is not Slayton yet but he has been damn good!


Slayton isnt a go too? In 17 games he has 10 TDs
RE: RE: A true #1 WR? No, no he's not.  
Anakim : 9/14/2020 10:23 pm : link
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.



BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.


How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.
Slayton came to play tonight.  
LBH15 : 9/14/2020 10:24 pm : link
Good for him to make plays when everybody else like Engram has their thumb up their ass.
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BleedBlue : 9/14/2020 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14972025 JoeyBigBlue said:
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That against a true shut down #1 corner then you can say he’s a #1 receiver. Until then he’s a nice #2.


Mike evans had 1 catch against a lrgit corner so is he not a #1??

Dumb argument
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BleedBlue : 9/14/2020 10:24 pm : link
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.



BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.



How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.



Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?
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Anakim : 9/14/2020 10:25 pm : link
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.

Clueless as usual. Keep it up, you're constantly entertaining for your shitty takes and "rankings".


Still jealous of me after all these years. I really feel sorry for you, Joey.
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pjcas18 : 9/14/2020 10:26 pm : link
In comment 14971949 Walnut said:
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He's an above average TE in a league that generally has a lack of talent at the position.

He has value and is a playmaker - something this team lacks. We need to give Jones more weapons, not less. He's a pro-bowl caliber TE when healthy.


Slayton? He's not even a TE, you nut
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Anakim : 9/14/2020 10:28 pm : link
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.



BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.



How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.




Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?


Not at all. How is he a #1? It's rare to find a true #1 WR. What Slayton is a really good #2/outside WR. He's not Michael Thomas. He's not Mike Evans. He's not Julio Jones. He's not Nuk Hopkins. Not Davante, not Cooper, not Diggs, not Kupp...

With that said, this is his second year. Could he become a #1 guy? Possibly, but he's not there yet. He's a promising young WR, but I'm not even close to anointing him as a #1 WR.
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djm : 9/14/2020 10:29 pm : link
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.



BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.



How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.


Dude wtf are you talking about. Not even close? Who the fuck deemed you the second coming of gill brandt? The guy is playing his 17th career game, goes off against a great D, but hey, you know what he is.
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BleedBlue : 9/14/2020 10:30 pm : link
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.



BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.



How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.




Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?



Not at all. How is he a #1? It's rare to find a true #1 WR. What Slayton is a really good #2/outside WR. He's not Michael Thomas. He's not Mike Evans. He's not Julio Jones. He's not Nuk Hopkins. Not Davante, not Cooper, not Diggs, not Kupp...

With that said, this is his second year. Could he become a #1 guy? Possibly, but he's not there yet. He's a promising young WR, but I'm not even close to anointing him as a #1 WR.



Please give me your definition of a #1
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JoeyBigBlue : 9/14/2020 10:32 pm : link
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That against a true shut down #1 corner then you can say he’s a #1 receiver. Until then he’s a nice #2.



Mike evans had 1 catch against a lrgit corner so is he not a #1??

Dumb argument



Mike Evans has 6 straight 1000 yard seasons. He’s burned a ton of No. 1 corners over his career. To compare him to Slayton is laughable.
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BleedBlue : 9/14/2020 10:34 pm : link
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That against a true shut down #1 corner then you can say he’s a #1 receiver. Until then he’s a nice #2.



Mike evans had 1 catch against a lrgit corner so is he not a #1??

Dumb argument




Mike Evans has 6 straight 1000 yard seasons. He’s burned a ton of No. 1 corners over his career. To compare him to Slayton is laughable.


Nobody was comparing the two, i simply said him having a bad game against a good corner doesnt mean he isnt a #1 reading comp goes a long way
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Anakim : 9/14/2020 10:35 pm : link
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.



BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.



How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.




Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?



Not at all. How is he a #1? It's rare to find a true #1 WR. What Slayton is a really good #2/outside WR. He's not Michael Thomas. He's not Mike Evans. He's not Julio Jones. He's not Nuk Hopkins. Not Davante, not Cooper, not Diggs, not Kupp...

With that said, this is his second year. Could he become a #1 guy? Possibly, but he's not there yet. He's a promising young WR, but I'm not even close to anointing him as a #1 WR.




Please give me your definition of a #1


A dominant go-to WR who can produce in all facets of the passing game. Reliable hands, expert route runner, TD producer, speedy, excellent after the catch.

15 games doesn't anoint one as all that. Slayton is promising and has already cemented himself as a promising #2. He's not all the things I listed above yet.
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FStubbs : 9/14/2020 10:36 pm : link
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.



BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.



How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.


Define a #1 receiver. He doesn't have to be 2015 Beckham to be a #1.
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JoeyBigBlue : 9/14/2020 10:36 pm : link
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That against a true shut down #1 corner then you can say he’s a #1 receiver. Until then he’s a nice #2.



Mike evans had 1 catch against a lrgit corner so is he not a #1??

Dumb argument




Mike Evans has 6 straight 1000 yard seasons. He’s burned a ton of No. 1 corners over his career. To compare him to Slayton is laughable.



Nobody was comparing the two, i simply said him having a bad game against a good corner doesnt mean he isnt a #1 reading comp goes a long way


No dude you are changing your argument to cover for your dumbass reasoning. Slayton is a nice receiver. Glad we have him. But to say he’s a No. 1 receiver, when he’s a 5th round pick 17 games into his career, is laughable.
No one said he’s mike Evans  
djm : 9/14/2020 10:37 pm : link
And you don’t have to be Evans to be good. He’s not Stephen diggs? Oh really? He’s not kupp??? Kupp is a slot wr. Apples and oranges.

Slayton is on a terrific trajectory. Just because he wasn’t on your draft radar and went 5th doesn’t mean he can’t be a viable starting WR. He might be better than diggs by the way. He’s got better deep end speed for one thing. It took diggs two full seasons to score 7 tds. Slayton has 10 in nearly half the time.
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BleedBlue : 9/14/2020 10:38 pm : link
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He's a good #2 WR who is a speedy deep threat. He's not a true #1 WR.



BASED On what?!? i usually agree with your posts but YOURE WAY OFF here.



How is he a #1 WR? He's a good #2. He's not even close to being a #1 guy.




Dude please back this up with something....is this a joke? Am i not picking up.your sarcasm?



Not at all. How is he a #1? It's rare to find a true #1 WR. What Slayton is a really good #2/outside WR. He's not Michael Thomas. He's not Mike Evans. He's not Julio Jones. He's not Nuk Hopkins. Not Davante, not Cooper, not Diggs, not Kupp...

With that said, this is his second year. Could he become a #1 guy? Possibly, but he's not there yet. He's a promising young WR, but I'm not even close to anointing him as a #1 WR.




Please give me your definition of a #1



A dominant go-to WR who can produce in all facets of the passing game. Reliable hands, expert route runner, TD producer, speedy, excellent after the catch.

15 games doesn't anoint one as all that. Slayton is promising and has already cemented himself as a promising #2. He's not all the things I listed above yet.


You deacribed him as a speedy deep threat but he has been way more than that. He is a good route runner and has made catches in traffic, moved the chains, etc. I think youre really putting him a box by sayong he is a good #2 and just a speedy deep threat. Really lazy analysis and im.surprised its coming from you. For the first 17 gamea of his career he has shown he can be counted on as a go to playmaker and TD producer. He is projecting to be way better than a good #2
Slayton  
pjcas18 : 9/14/2020 10:39 pm : link
is definitely a #1 WR by most definitions.

I think Anakim is confusing #1 with something else.

You don't have to be Michael Thomas or Julio Jones or DeAndre Hopkins to be a #1 WR.

Slayton is absolutely a legit #1.

And for that matter, compare Julio Jones rookie stats with Slayton's. Not that much different.

Slayton's were better than DeAndre Hopkins.

and you can do the rest of the work yourself.

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Anakim : 9/14/2020 10:39 pm : link
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That against a true shut down #1 corner then you can say he’s a #1 receiver. Until then he’s a nice #2.



Mike evans had 1 catch against a lrgit corner so is he not a #1??

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Mike Evans has 6 straight 1000 yard seasons. He’s burned a ton of No. 1 corners over his career. To compare him to Slayton is laughable.



Nobody was comparing the two, i simply said him having a bad game against a good corner doesnt mean he isnt a #1 reading comp goes a long way


By that same token, having a good game against a good corner doesn't make him a #1 WR.

It feels like I'm bashing Slayton, which I'm not. I'm just pointing out that the sample size is small and I'm not ready to anoint him as one of the top WRs in the NFL. Could he get to that point? Yes. Is he there now? No.

The way I see it, you have Slayton, a promising young outside WR and two productive and reliable slot guys (though Shep lines up on the outside). This team still needs an outside WR, preferably someone with size.
Huh??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/14/2020 10:39 pm : link
The #1 WR can boil down to being the best on their team. I love this description:

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15 games doesn't anoint one as all that. Slayton is promising and has already cemented himself as a promising #2. He's not all the things I listed above yet.


By that definition, probably 65% of the league doesn't have a guy qualify as one. Hell, the Cowboys would be the only team in the division with one.
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BleedBlue : 9/14/2020 10:39 pm : link
I think you guys are confusing a #1 wr and what that means for an offense with being a top 10 WR in the game....

To be a #1, you dont have to be top 10 in football lol
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djm : 9/14/2020 10:40 pm : link
I am hanging up the phone if buffalo calls offering diggs at even money for slayton. I’m laughing them off the phone. Kupp? Same.

17 games. He missed most of camp last year and didn’t miss a beat this summer. He’s going to have a huge season.
Slayton..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/14/2020 10:40 pm : link
has 10 TD's in 17 career games.

Please tell me you aren't ignorant enough to think that's one good game against a decent DB?
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BleedBlue : 9/14/2020 10:41 pm : link
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I am hanging up the phone if buffalo calls offering diggs at even money for slayton. I’m laughing them off the phone. Kupp? Same.

17 games. He missed most of camp last year and didn’t miss a beat this summer. He’s going to have a huge season.



Agreed.

They are confusing a top wr in football eith a #1 wr. Nobody said he is top 10 but he is clearly a #1
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pjcas18 : 9/14/2020 10:46 pm : link
In comment 14972148 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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has 10 TD's in 17 career games.

Please tell me you aren't ignorant enough to think that's one good game against a decent DB?


and only 9 starts because he was a 5th round rookie with Shepard and Tate (at least) ahead of him on the depth chart.
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