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My Observations from WK1

GoDeep13 : 9/14/2020 10:37 pm
First off I’d like to say that this team has made progress. It was a tough week 1 matchup to pull and a win would have been more surprising. Thought we played hard for the most part. Main takeaways (in no specific order.)

- Graham has to do better changing coverages. Pittsburgh was making our defense declare man/zone from the 2nd Qtr on with all their motions. Graham is known for playing a lot of man and Pittsburgh had the man beaters ready. Rub routes, drags, whip routes, and curls galore. Our CBS were actually in good coverage most of the night (sans the touchdown on Yiadom by Smith-Schuster). Many times Ben was just throwing it before his receivers made their break. Tough to defend that.

- Offensive line struggles more about communication than talent. Guys were confused by Pittsburgh’s pressure packages and too often we had two guys blocking one guy and leaving a free runner into the backfield. Or guys recognizing the blitz late.

- Evan Engram is a very athletic player. But he doesn’t have the physicality or IQ to properly play his position. Tony Gonzalez wasn’t a great blocker but he knew how to get open for his QB and had reliable hands. We keep banking on what Engram COULD be. But all he’s proven to be time and time again is a liability and the 1st drive encapsulated the many ways he lets this team down.

- Daniel Jones should have been given the reigns of this game earlier. We moved the ball when we let the passing game lead. Coming in we knew running the ball against Pittsburgh wasn’t going to be easy. They were run blitzing almost every 1st down. Needed to mix more playaction in on 1st and 2nd.

-Absolutely. Positively. CANNOT have that interception in the red zone on that long drive. Inexcusable. Worst decision of the game by Jones. Cannot happen. Can’t. Either get rid of it earlier or eat the sack. Even 3 there is huge for the game momentum.

- Peppers on special teams is a move I like. Almost broke one.

- Didn’t like the lack of energy on the last scoring drive. It’s was still a two score game, ahead of the 2 minute warning with 2 timeouts. They seemed too just be content putting a drive together instead of playing to for the game into overtime.

-Darius Slayton is legit. Good find by DG.
This team must lead the league  
thrunthrublue : 9/14/2020 10:42 pm : link
Over the past few years with running backs tackled for losses, and for busted screen passes.
My name is SB from NYT Forum  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/14/2020 10:44 pm : link
...and I endorse this message.
Brown_Hornet : 9/14/2020 10:45 pm : link!
we changed everything  
mittenedman : 9/14/2020 10:47 pm : link
but it looks like the same f#cking team. It really does.

*Can't run the ball. Repeatedly taking huge losses on run plays.

*Can't convert inside the 10.

*Can't find a way to use Barkley effectively at all.

*No pass rush. Middle of the field wide open.

*Dumb mistakes and penalties at inopportune times.

*Play hard at the start, but ultimately get overwhelmed by a superior opponent.

I guess it's a starting point - but this looked like many games under McAdoo & Shurmur.
Good post  
mfsd : 9/14/2020 10:47 pm : link
I think Martinez and Bradberry both had strong showings. As did our DL, especially Williams and Lawrence.

You’re right about our guys getting exposed in man coverage. But we also didn’t give up any absurd long TDs bc a safety was lost. Sad to consider that an improvement over the past 2 seasons, but it is
I also think  
dairborn : 9/14/2020 10:56 pm : link
the last half of the 4th quarter, both the O and the D were could see it....they were having trouble getting back to the line....I know everyone hates preseason games, but you could tell they were getting tired..not having real action hurt...I know they scrimmaged, but it wasn't the same..2 minute offense in the last part of the first game I am sure is pretty tough...

I will say this...seems like we came out of the game pretty healthy....we need that for keeping things together communication wise moving forward.....I feel like steps have been taken in the right direction....haven't felt that way about the giants in a while.
Good post  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/14/2020 10:58 pm : link
you're leaving out something very important  
GiantsFan84 : 9/14/2020 11:38 pm : link
overall i thought the team was prepared to play and well coached. i haven't seen that from this team in a long, long time. i am extremely encouraged about joe judge after this week
RE: we changed everything  
loafin : 9/15/2020 12:06 am : link
In comment 14972175 mittenedman said:
but it looks like the same f#cking team. It really does.

*Can't run the ball. Repeatedly taking huge losses on run plays.
This was the OL's first game as a unit against one of the best defensive lines in the NFL

*Can't convert inside the 10.
Jones pick was an asinine throw.

*Can't find a way to use Barkley effectively at all.
Pittsburgh's objective was to stop Barkley. I was pleased that we still had a game plan in spite of their success against Barkley.

*No pass rush. Middle of the field wide open.
The defense played very well IMO. Gave up a short field TD after the pick to Watt

*Dumb mistakes and penalties at inopportune times.
Didn't see to many penalties on the offensive line or the DBs

*Play hard at the start, but ultimately get overwhelmed by a superior opponent.
Isn't that the way a better team usually wins. If not for the 2 picks - the Giants have a chance to win.

I guess it's a starting point - but this looked like many games under McAdoo & Shurmur.
I thought the defense looked really good, but they were left on the field too long.
I fear  
santacruzom : 9/15/2020 7:51 am : link
that the team will be deficient in talent across multiple position groups for some time, so we just have to hope the talented young players take a leap of faith and stick around long enough for us to reverse that.
it's ONE game  
giants#1 : 9/15/2020 8:09 am : link
against a top D that's had a steady coaching staff for a decade, but basically confirmed what many of suspected:

1. Giants still lack a legit pass rusher
2. Secondary has some holes
3. Engram can't block (if he can't catch either he needs to be benched)
4. OL still has issues, particularly at C - there's at least hope that this will improve after a few games together

One major positive is that the coaching staff looked like they actually made some good in-game adjustments, particularly Garrett and the offense. Came out with a strong drive to start the 2nd half, but obviously need to finish them.

This team doesn't have the talent to overcome a TO deficit. Need to take better care of the ball and find ways to generate some pressure and maybe force a TO or two.
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