I have a friend that plays offensive line for the Steelers. He told me that what the Steelers did last night was a scheme to overload one side of the line and force the tackle to take the linebacker, which is why there were so many plays where the defensive end came totally free. The Tackle was actually doing the correct assignment by picking up the linebacker and the protections needed to be adjusted to account for the defensive end.
So it may have been more of a scheme that our coaching staff had not prepared us for rather than our line just being totally awful. Jones should have adjusted the protections and the running backs should have done a better job picking up the rushers. My friend seems to think that the Giants were just unprepared and were never able to adjust.
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I think he meant the Steelers overload blitz like on this play
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Did your friend have any opinions on the interior play?
Im no o-line coach but based on Hernandez pulling to the other side, yes and Thomas is blocking down
Did your friend have any opinions on the interior play?
He commented that the Giants O-Line is not "bad" ... he said they are young and they couldn't figure out the scheme the Steelers kept throwing at them ... def got hurt by not having any preseason games to work on stuff
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That’s a great insight, there was clearly an assignment issue on the edges.
Did your friend have any opinions on the interior play?
He commented that the Giants O-Line is not "bad" ... he said they are young and they couldn't figure out the scheme the Steelers kept throwing at them ... def got hurt by not having any preseason games to work on stuff
But is this on the players (OL) the coaches or both? If it's on the players, they'll get better the more they play together. If the coaches were unable to make adjustments, it's a little more worrisome.
New scheme, young QB, new C never been a C, complex D, no preseason. They may not have recognized things and our backs and TEs need to pick up rushers better.
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That’s a great insight, there was clearly an assignment issue on the edges.
Did your friend have any opinions on the interior play?
He commented that the Giants O-Line is not "bad" ... he said they are young and they couldn't figure out the scheme the Steelers kept throwing at them ... def got hurt by not having any preseason games to work on stuff
Interesting, appreciate you sharing all that
I know the natural reaction is to say "the OL sucks", but a lot of times with us its the RB/Engram sucks at blocking.
We need to bench Engram and out in a real TE. Frankly you saw us do this when we go with 2 or 3 TE's. Its done because EE can't block. My issue is then why have him out there because he can't catch either.
Sweet!
I think he meant the Steelers overload blitz like on this play Example - ( New Window )
If you look at the first play on this video, Fleming had 2 guys coming at him. Where is the RB? the TE? Its a scheme thing or an incompetence "crappy blocking by RB/TE thing.
You can see later in the game they were having the TE block this crashing guy more, so that leads me to believe the protection scheme was in place and it just wasn't being executed.
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Its not a stunt, we were fine with them.
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That’s a great insight, there was clearly an assignment issue on the edges.
Did your friend have any opinions on the interior play?
He commented that the Giants O-Line is not "bad" ... he said they are young and they couldn't figure out the scheme the Steelers kept throwing at them ... def got hurt by not having any preseason games to work on stuff
But is this on the players (OL) the coaches or both? If it's on the players, they'll get better the more they play together. If the coaches were unable to make adjustments, it's a little more worrisome.
I think it's likely on the coaches.
Bad: they weren't prepared for it heading into week 1
Good: they did make some successful in-game adjustments as evidenced by the long drive to start the 2nd
That said, there were at least 2 occasions early on where Engram was completely blown up by the defender before SB even took the handoff. No scheme can get around that...
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STFU, you whiny little bitch.
Second, sadly it doesn't appear that Saquon or Engram have improved their blocking. I hole out hope that they were just "ambushed" last night and will improve.
Third, if Columbo believes in Gates so do I. But it was his first EVER NFL start at OC and he faced ProBowl level defenders.
Fourth, if Jones didn't make the the proper adjustments or line calls well that is an issue that needs to be addressed and fixed before Chicago.
We lost this game because we lost the turnover battle AND because we lack the continuity needed to keep this type of talented defense at bay. We will improve with experience but we may also have a few L's before it gets better.
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For like the 7th year in a row all you have to do is run a simple DL stunt and you can totally blow up our offense.
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STFU, you whiny little bitch.
Oh good one...
It's true. Well, maybe not a stunt, but an overload.
Weak OL play (or just blocking in general)kills this team over and over.
On a positive note, I saw several instances of Thomas and Hernandez executing perfectly on DL stunts, which was nice to see after years of complete incompetence.
Never cease to be amazed that that team has had only 3 head coaches in the past 50 years.
Never cease to be amazed that that team has had only 3 head coaches in the past 50 years.
vs. our 3 head coaches in the past 5 years. Oh the pain!
Teams know Barkley struggles to pass protect. Something I’ve noticed is if Barkley is in the game, teams almost blitz exclusively because they know it’s either gonna keep Barkley in to block (which again, he struggles with.) Or if he slips out they have a safety rallying down to the flats.
Kind of easy for a team that has been together for years to adjust ove a team with a brand new oline and new to the team coaches.
Teams know Barkley struggles to pass protect. Something I’ve noticed is if Barkley is in the game, teams almost blitz exclusively because they know it’s either gonna keep Barkley in to block (which again, he struggles with.) Or if he slips out they have a safety rallying down to the flats.
This is a great point which I, being of simple mind, didn't realize....why WOULDN'T you blitz as much as possible? You take away the threat that Barkley is when he's in open space AND you force him to do something hes bad at. Pure genius....(cue a Wiley E Coyote gif here).
Great post though! Thanks.
You'd hope for some Gel and im provement and a little more production from the run game.
If you add a TD on that early turnover and you Take back the Deep Red Interception, you might conclude that Tomlin chose his poison and lost.