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Tiki on Saquon's Pass Blocking

armstead98 : 9/16/2020 10:12 am
Via Ranaan tweets:

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From Tiki Barber (Tiki and Tierney/CBS Sports Radio), who knows a little something about being an all-around back: "Saquon Barkley might not be an every down back. He cannot pass protect. It's becoming glaring... and it's going to be a liability...

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“Recognition is one and (two), you gotta go hit a dude. Saquon Barkley is a big man who doesn't want to hit anybody. It's frustrating to watch. He's a great back, but he's frustrating to watch trying to pass protect.”
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RE: Tiki needs to look in the mirror  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/16/2020 12:37 pm : link
In comment 14974441 larryflower37 said:
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He didn't even start until year 4 and averaged 8 fumbles a year until coughlin came in and forced him to change.
Barkley is a hard worker and is trying to improve,
Something Tiki didn't bother to do until Coughlin basically told him he wouldn't start unless he got his fumbling under control.
I wouldn't count Barkley out at this point.


Tiki was a second round pick. Barkley was the number two pick in the draft. Perhaps higher expectations are in order?
Why does everything have to be in absolutes?  
BH28 : 9/16/2020 12:39 pm : link
Can't it be true that Saquon needs to improve his pass blocking and it's something to keep an eye on the rest of the year?

Can't it also be true that he's really good despite the pass blocking?

One does not negate the other.
Tiki is for Tiki  
RetroJint : 9/16/2020 12:47 pm : link
& his twin brother, I guess, but Saquon should heed his critique. First you have to want to do it. Second, you need to recognize your markers. Third you need to apply the correct technique. The guy is 240 pounds. That's bigger than most linebackers these days. Stay up. Identify. Engage with extreme prejudice.

Know why? Because other teams will see this on film. The Bears aren't the Steelers on Defense but they certainly have a coaching staff and players to use multiple pressures on Sun.

As for the Parcells comment above, whenever Joe Morris cut blocked a blitzer, Bill sat him down. Different era, I know. But it's time that Barkley starts hearing some criticism.

I watched the Giants post-game delayed coverage on MSG after the game. All Sweet Young Thing wanted to do was talk about Barkley's hurdle. O'Hara, who should know better, didn't.
Barkley's natural instinct when he sees a oncoming rusher...  
penkap75 : 9/16/2020 12:49 pm : link
is to probablyhurdle over him.
He needs to start hitting some fools.
RE: Agree with Tiki 100%  
averagejoe : 9/16/2020 12:56 pm : link
In comment 14974171 mittenedman said:
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I realize it's a big no no to criticize Barkley here, but he has some of that "Looks like Tarzan" stuff going on.

He is built like Eddie George but he has no interest in the physical part of the game. That is a big problem.

You can teach a guy like Ahmad Bradshaw to block. But it's hard to teach someone who shies away from contact.

If you put Bradshaws brain on Saquons body he would be the RB everyone thought we were getting. But you cannot. He is NOT an every down RB. Can't block and will NEVER get the ball on 4th and 1. His stats are empty and meaningless. He does not help us win.
RE: RE: Everyone in the NFL is hurt.  
averagejoe : 9/16/2020 1:06 pm : link
In comment 14974216 Big Blue '56 said:
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Jacobs and Bradshaw were constantly hurt. Barkley is not getting the injury excuse. It's the NFL. You gotta get it done, or it's Not For Long.

Enough with the excuse making for this guy. I even see above it isn't fair to expect him to play well against good teams. C'mon now.



We get it by now. You wanted Chubb, Nelson or QB at #2, in ‘18.
Nope. We wanted Chubb or Nelson PLUS the other premium picks we could have gotten for the second pick. The Barkley pick was a massive failure.
RE: RE: Agree with Tiki 100%  
TC : 9/16/2020 1:12 pm : link
In comment 14974477 averagejoe said:
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In comment 14974171 mittenedman said:


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I realize it's a big no no to criticize Barkley here, but he has some of that "Looks like Tarzan" stuff going on.

He is built like Eddie George but he has no interest in the physical part of the game. That is a big problem.

You can teach a guy like Ahmad Bradshaw to block. But it's hard to teach someone who shies away from contact.


If you put Bradshaws brain on Saquons body he would be the RB everyone thought we were getting. But you cannot. He is NOT an every down RB. Can't block and will NEVER get the ball on 4th and 1. His stats are empty and meaningless. He does not help us win.


For a moment, I thought you were talking about TERRY Bradshaw! Mean, and more than a little bit crazy. I still remember a play where a DB had a hold of his left leg in the backfield trying to drag him down while he's looking for a receiver, and with his left hand Bradshaw is PUNCHING the would-be tackler in the top of his HELMET!

Saquon wouldn't be harmed by a touch of junk yard dog.

I like it when they line up Barkley wide.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/16/2020 1:53 pm : link
He may end up having a Gifford-type career where he begins as a RB but extends his career by playing receiver.
I think it is something  
Beer Man : 9/16/2020 1:55 pm : link
that can probably be corrected.
Beezer  
arniefez : 9/16/2020 2:26 pm : link
For what it's worth I agree 100% with your feelings about Tiki. Doesn't mean he isn't correct or qualified to make that critique.

I'm not objective. I hated the pick the minute it was made. I hate it more now.

RBs are a dime a dozen and should be cheap. The same thing with run stuffing DLs. Gettleman pays these positions in money and in picks like they're WRs or Edge rushers.

You look at the two teams on the field Monday Night and the Steelers are everything the Giants are not. The Steelers philosophy is exact opposite of the Giants. Which bus would you rather be on?

RE: If a Former All-Pro NFL Player...  
lax counsel : 9/16/2020 2:52 pm : link
In comment 14974370 Jim in Tampa said:
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Gives a negative critique of a player on YOUR team, who is playing the same position as that former NFL star...

And instead of acknowledging that this former player may have a good point you either attack him or make excuses for YOUR player not playing well...

Then say hi to Marge, Bart and Lisa for me, because you are a Homer.


This. Others have said it before, but he struggles to get tough yards between the tackles (and no I'm not referring to getting hit 5 yards in the backfield, no one expects a difference maker in that situation), and has a glaring weakness in pass protection. He looks more like Reggie Bush than Marshall Faulk at this point. Both very talented players, both very different players. Hope the remainder of the season sees the issues play out well for Barkley.
RE: If a Former All-Pro NFL Player...  
lax counsel : 9/16/2020 2:52 pm : link
In comment 14974370 Jim in Tampa said:
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Gives a negative critique of a player on YOUR team, who is playing the same position as that former NFL star...

And instead of acknowledging that this former player may have a good point you either attack him or make excuses for YOUR player not playing well...

Then say hi to Marge, Bart and Lisa for me, because you are a Homer.


This. Others have said it before, but he struggles to get tough yards between the tackles (and no I'm not referring to getting hit 5 yards in the backfield, no one expects a difference maker in that situation), and has a glaring weakness in pass protection. He looks more like Reggie Bush than Marshall Faulk at this point. Both very talented players, both very different players. Hope the remainder of the season sees the issues play out well for Barkley.
RE: Beezer  
averagejoe : 9/16/2020 2:56 pm : link
In comment 14974581 arniefez said:
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For what it's worth I agree 100% with your feelings about Tiki. Doesn't mean he isn't correct or qualified to make that critique.

I'm not objective. I hated the pick the minute it was made. I hate it more now.

RBs are a dime a dozen and should be cheap. The same thing with run stuffing DLs. Gettleman pays these positions in money and in picks like they're WRs or Edge rushers.

You look at the two teams on the field Monday Night and the Steelers are everything the Giants are not. The Steelers philosophy is exact opposite of the Giants. Which bus would you rather be on?
They let Bell walk rather than pay him and did not miss a beat. Giants will back up the Brinks truck to give Barkley a second contract and will continue to lose.
How..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/16/2020 2:57 pm : link
can anyone sit here and say the Barkley pick was a massive failure?

If he has just a decent season this year, he'll likely have the most yards from scrimmage since coming into the league
By the way..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/16/2020 2:58 pm : link
the Steelers let Bell and Brown walk and won what, exactly?
RE: By the way..  
family progtitioner : 9/16/2020 3:14 pm : link
In comment 14974620 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the Steelers let Bell and Brown walk and won what, exactly?


I get what you're saying here but they did lose their QB last year. If not for that they were a sure P.O. team
So how do you improve something like pass blocking  
Angel Eyes : 9/16/2020 3:16 pm : link
?
RE: Kamara and CMC aren't punishing runners  
GoDeep13 : 9/16/2020 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14974285 UConn4523 said:
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Zeke is, but that's his build/style. He doesn't have that extra gear that Barkley has so its a give/take.

You can't have everything. The areas Barkley is weaker at can be taught. I'd like to also think that getting some running room will will take the focus off the pass rush (a basic football 101 level concept) and thus translate to him being able to definitively pick up his blocking assignments.


Alvin Kamala - 5’10 215lbs

Christian McCaffrey - 5’11 205lbs

Ezekiel Elliot - 6ft 225lbs

Saquon Barkley - 6ft 233lbs

Saquon needs to lower a fucking shoulder and stop all this dancing.
RE: Wahh, you stink Saquon. You'll never be as good as me  
Greg from LI : 9/16/2020 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14974434 PatersonPlank said:
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Well, to date, he hasn't been, so....
Wanting Barkley to block  
Gman11 : 9/16/2020 4:58 pm : link
is like marrying Ms. Universe then complaining about her cooking.
RE: i think it's more than that  
santacruzom : 9/16/2020 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14974173 GiantNatty said:
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been saying since he came back from his injury last year that something's just not right with that guy. point blank, he's playing below average football (and i'm talking about when the opportunities are there; clearly guys hitting him in the backfield is not his fault).


I wonder about that myself. It just doesn't seem like he's as explosive as he was his rookie year.
RE: How..  
Thegratefulhead : 9/16/2020 5:28 pm : link
In comment 14974617 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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can anyone sit here and say the Barkley pick was a massive failure?

If he has just a decent season this year, he'll likely have the most yards from scrimmage since coming into the league
You're right. I think he was great pick. He needs to improve his pass blocking, it hasn't been good. It isn't a reason to shit on all he has been but his pass protection does deserve criticism.
RE: RE: Bradshaw/Jacobs  
santacruzom : 9/16/2020 5:47 pm : link
In comment 14974202 mittenedman said:
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Please stop. Their problems were strictly technique and recognition but they would've gladly run thru a brick wall if you pointed out which one.

Barkley's problem is different IMO. He shies away from contact. That is not an easy problem to fix.


Does he really though? Are there examples of him simply evading an approaching blitzer in his range?

Maybe he simply doesn't recognize it and react/position accordingly. It's not far-fetched -- we're talking quarter seconds here.
Only on BBI  
DieHard : 9/16/2020 5:54 pm : link
Should we "emulate" a team that hasn't been to a Super Bowl since, oh, before we won our last one, or claim a guy is a "failure" after he's gained nearly 3500+ yards from scrimmage in his first 2 seasons, because he's not "tough" (he looked plenty tough coming back early from injury last year).

That said, Tiki makes reasonable points. If it somehow leads to Barkley taking it up a notch like Eli did in 2007 after getting called out, and Tiki retroactively taking credit for it (again), I can live with that.
RE: The Giants version of the Butt Fumble  
santacruzom : 9/16/2020 5:55 pm : link
In comment 14974307 arniefez said:
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is Bakley trying to block Jamal Adams. That is one of the most embarrassing plays in Giants history.


I remember that, and it looked really bad. I'm hardly knowledgeable in blocking technique (neither is Saquon! Rim shot), but his arm got caught up a bit on one of his linemen and neither of his hands even made contact with Adams. All Adams had to do was just drive right into his chest.
RE: By the way..  
santacruzom : 9/16/2020 6:03 pm : link
In comment 14974620 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the Steelers let Bell and Brown walk and won what, exactly?


Two Giants' seasons worth of wins despite losing their starting QB!
RE: RE: By the way..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/16/2020 6:11 pm : link
In comment 14974826 santacruzom said:
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the Steelers let Bell and Brown walk and won what, exactly?



Two Giants' seasons worth of wins despite losing their starting QB!


Fantastic. I can't wait to see your elation when we get that many wins and miss the playoffs.
RE: fair criticism or not  
Brown_Hornet : 9/16/2020 6:44 pm : link
In comment 14974253 bigbluehoya said:
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Tiki has a HOF-level ability to get himself right back into the crosshairs of NYG fans time and time again.
Fuck Giants fans.
Stop being so "special."

Tiki is right. SB has work to do. I'd bet Tiki's words help, rather than hurt. (with the exception of a few Giants fans' butts...)
RE: RE: RE: By the way..  
santacruzom : 9/16/2020 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14974833 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the Steelers let Bell and Brown walk and won what, exactly?



Two Giants' seasons worth of wins despite losing their starting QB!



Fantastic. I can't wait to see your elation when we get that many wins and miss the playoffs.


You don't think I'd be elated with an 8-8 season this year? Man, if we had any champagne lying around at the end of Monday night's game, I'd have popped the bottle.
Me too  
ron mexico : 9/16/2020 6:54 pm : link
8-8 and I will sing Juges praises and welcome Dave back
He's right  
Carson53 : 9/16/2020 7:19 pm : link
I mentioned it the day after the game, so that would
be Tuesday. He's in his third year, not a rookie anymore.
Why, in the minds of many people here.....  
Greg from LI : 9/16/2020 7:49 pm : link
...is any criticism of a Giant, or the organization, "shitting on them"? Given the manifest failures of the entire organization, players and staff alike, over the past 8 years, you'd think it would be entirely noncontroversial to criticize them.

And yet.....
Barkley is a flawed back  
WillVAB : 9/16/2020 8:16 pm : link
Definitely doesn’t have any Brandon Jacobs in his game.

The question will be whether the Giants build an elite OL in front of him so that he rips off enough big runs to minimize the negatives runs.
I think Tiki’s right, and I think it’s getting time to be concerned  
trueblueinpw : 9/16/2020 11:06 pm : link
Tiki knows what he’s talking about. And yeah, he’s self serving tool, but the man knows the RB position and what it takes to pass pro in the NFL.

And he’s not saying anything that hasn’t said before, pass pro is mental. The RB needs to know who to pick up and this is certainly something made much more difficult by poor line play, a new line, both, a 2nd year quarterback, a good scheme by the defense, etc. All of these things conspired against Barks in pass pro on Monday night. He can do better in film study, the line can come together, DJ can get better at setting protections and this will all probably happen.

But pass pro is also about attitude and wanting to hit someone. It’s probably one of the most violent collisions in a sport of lots of violent collisions. And this is something that seems to be lacking in Barks game. If we’re being honest, Bark isn’t a back who “runs angry” and he isn’t good in pass pro and he doesn’t seem like a back that wears down the defense. His game, at least so far, and it’s season three now, is kind of like a DH who strikes out a lot but can turn on any pitch and hit a moon shot tater at any time. Barks can score any time he touches the ball, and sometimes he does and he’s an amazing athlete. But game in and game out? Doing all the things an every down back needs to do? I think it’s fair to start to wonder about Barks overall ability. And again it is year three for him. So, it’s time to put it all together. Hopefully getting called out by Tiki will motivate Saquon.

One last thing to consider, if Tiki sees this, and if Tiki’s saying it, you can believe D-cos are seeing it and you bet that guys in the Giants locker room are seeing it - and even if not saying it yet - I’ll bet they’re all thinking it. It’s time for Barks change some minds and the only way to do that is to go out and get the job done. Enough with all the excuses. Go be the best player on the field and win.
RE: I think Tiki’s right, and I think it’s getting time to be concerned  
averagejoe : 9/16/2020 11:25 pm : link
In comment 14975094 trueblueinpw said:
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Tiki knows what he’s talking about. And yeah, he’s self serving tool, but the man knows the RB position and what it takes to pass pro in the NFL.

And he’s not saying anything that hasn’t said before, pass pro is mental. The RB needs to know who to pick up and this is certainly something made much more difficult by poor line play, a new line, both, a 2nd year quarterback, a good scheme by the defense, etc. All of these things conspired against Barks in pass pro on Monday night. He can do better in film study, the line can come together, DJ can get better at setting protections and this will all probably happen.

But pass pro is also about attitude and wanting to hit someone. It’s probably one of the most violent collisions in a sport of lots of violent collisions. And this is something that seems to be lacking in Barks game. If we’re being honest, Bark isn’t a back who “runs angry” and he isn’t good in pass pro and he doesn’t seem like a back that wears down the defense. His game, at least so far, and it’s season three now, is kind of like a DH who strikes out a lot but can turn on any pitch and hit a moon shot tater at any time. Barks can score any time he touches the ball, and sometimes he does and he’s an amazing athlete. But game in and game out? Doing all the things an every down back needs to do? I think it’s fair to start to wonder about Barks overall ability. And again it is year three for him. So, it’s time to put it all together. Hopefully getting called out by Tiki will motivate Saquon.

One last thing to consider, if Tiki sees this, and if Tiki’s saying it, you can believe D-cos are seeing it and you bet that guys in the Giants locker room are seeing it - and even if not saying it yet - I’ll bet they’re all thinking it. It’s time for Barks change some minds and the only way to do that is to go out and get the job done. Enough with all the excuses. Go be the best player on the field and win.


Thread winner. Agree 100%
Odd thing about the historic comps for Saquon Barkley:  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/17/2020 7:14 am : link
Marshall Faulk, LaDainian Tomlinson, and Roger Craig all continued to raise their games and diversify their skills through at least theIr sixth seasons, and their stats reflect it. (Tiki peaked in year nine; he’s such a unique case that you almost have to discard him from any discussion of precedents.) So the holes in Barkley’s game, thirty starts into his young career, could be a distant memory by the time he’s done. He’s not likely to earn his hefty paycheck pass-blocking, but I expect his recognition and results to improve with experience.

The Faulk comparison might be the most instructive. Because of his gaudy stats, and perhaps because Mike Martz’s offense is notorious for exposing QBs to fatal injury, Faulk’s blocking is largely overlooked. He was really good. With no legit TE on the field much of the time, he had to be. Faulk had Saquon’s speed, without SB’s natural strength and explosion. His key assets as a blocker, like Tiki’s, were anticipation and rapid processing. I’m pretty sure Barkley will get there. Takes time, though.
RE: Barkley's nose for contact  
mittenedman : 9/17/2020 7:33 am : link
Remember, this is something Pat Shurmur quietly was critical of Barkley for, too, his rookie year.

He was trying to get Barkley to just take the handoff and get N-S immediately. He was careful not to be negative about it, but it was something he was trying to coach into SB. IIRC it was the Bucs his rookie year, where he played with a more hard-nosed approach and had a great game. But it didn't last.
I am shocked at Barkley's pass blocking issues  
djm : 9/17/2020 9:22 am : link
he needs to tighten that shit up and fast.
I really think Barkley’s biggest hurdle is staying focused  
LBH15 : 9/17/2020 9:48 am : link
when the team and/or he is struggling. Obviously a competitor, he gets very down on himself when things get tough and we saw this a bunch of times last season. Lack of focus leading to missing protections, dropped passes, trying to do too much.

Didn’t see this much, if at all, rookie year.



You know who blocked like a demon?  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2020 9:48 am : link
Ahmad Bradshaw. God almighty, I loved that guy.
I completely disagree with this "lack of contact crap"  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2020 9:48 am : link
What was the stat, he got hit on average 2 yds IN THE BACKFIELD last week. Just how much momentum do you think can be generated in his first step after getting the handoff to create hard contact? When he got open, like on the screens, he was a battering ram (jumping over people and running through them). This is a myth that needs to go away, like Eli grip strength.

Sure his pass blocking needs to improve, as does every Giants OL/TE/RB player. By the way CMC, Kamara, Zeke don't block for crap either (to answer a poster from above). This difference is that those teams are actually letting the RB get to the LOS before getting hit, so no one seems to care.
Also I watch Ranaan's tweet showing all of Barkleys pass blocking  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2020 10:03 am : link
plays. He blew I think 2 assignments. Besides that he got pads on everyone and held his own. He didn't look to me like a guy afraid. This is so overblown IMO.
RE: Barkley is a flawed back  
DieHard : 9/17/2020 10:40 am : link
In comment 14974961 WillVAB said:
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Definitely doesn’t have any Brandon Jacobs in his game.

The question will be whether the Giants build an elite OL in front of him so that he rips off enough big runs to minimize the negatives runs.


Much as I love Jacobs, I wouldn't use him as an example of a bruising runner. Sure he looked good when he got a head of steam, but he wasn't a pile mover. There's a reason folks called him the "tiptoe burglar."
All crap aside, what we really need to do is always play a FB or  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2020 11:03 am : link
H-Back (whoever is the best blocker). Split the useless Engram out (or pick someone else who can actually catch), and have Barkley just focus on running or getting out for pass plays. Leave the blocking to the 5 OL and 1 HB guy, who in theory are our best blockers. This way we aren't always trying to have Barkley pick up blitzes. I believe this is what Carolina does with CMC, and I know that Garrett has done this with Dallas. Put the people in the best places for their skills.
RE: You know who blocked like a demon?  
Carson53 : 9/17/2020 11:54 am : link
In comment 14975214 Greg from LI said:
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Ahmad Bradshaw. God almighty, I loved that guy.
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He was a better blocker than Jacobs, that's for sure.
Besides his pass catching ability, after a while,
they had Bradshaw in on 3rd downs, not Jacobs.
Once he got over his fumbling issues, liked him as well.
He was a tough S.O.B.
RE: RE: Barkley is a flawed back  
WillVAB : 9/17/2020 1:20 pm : link
In comment 14975258 DieHard said:
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In comment 14974961 WillVAB said:


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Definitely doesn’t have any Brandon Jacobs in his game.

The question will be whether the Giants build an elite OL in front of him so that he rips off enough big runs to minimize the negatives runs.



Much as I love Jacobs, I wouldn't use him as an example of a bruising runner. Sure he looked good when he got a head of steam, but he wasn't a pile mover. There's a reason folks called him the "tiptoe burglar."


Some truth to that but at least Jacobs was a willing pass blocker and would deliver a blow to a defender when he got a head of steam. Barkley just wants to try to string everything to the outside and jump over defenders.
RE: RE: Barkley is a flawed back  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2020 2:07 pm : link
In comment 14975258 DieHard said:
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Much as I love Jacobs, I wouldn't use him as an example of a bruising runner. Sure he looked good when he got a head of steam, but he wasn't a pile mover. There's a reason folks called him the "tiptoe burglar."


"Folks" didn't call him that. One jackass, Warren Sapp, called him that.
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CardinalX : 9/17/2020 3:43 pm : link
Tiki says a lot of things Giants fans don't want to hear from Tiki. Things they even say themselves. But Tiki better not say them.


Even when they are about a RB.


Which Tiki was. And a damn good one at that.


Bottom line? Tiki has as much or more of a right to comment on this type of thing as just about ANY one else.


Disagree with it all you want, but don't act like he doesn't have the right to state his opinion.

I wonder how much of Barkley's PB issues  
PaulBlakeTSU : 9/17/2020 3:59 pm : link
is related to our line's terrible performance as a unit.

For argument's sake, let's say the Giants had the best OL in the league. On passing plays, Barkley would know his assingment and there would only be one guy running free that Barkley could spot because the rest of the line is doing their job well. And so it's easier to recognize and slow down his target.

As the line gets worse, the RB's job is harder because there is more second-guessing about the assignment. On the other end of the spectrum, in the toilet, is the Giants offensive line. They give up pressure quickly and often get beat by stunts and various defensive pressures.

With more guys running free at the QB, I wonder if it causes Barkley, as the last line of defense, to hesitate about whom he should pick up to protect the QB.
RE: I wonder how much of Barkley's PB issues  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2020 7:10 pm : link
In comment 14975519 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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is related to our line's terrible performance as a unit.

For argument's sake, let's say the Giants had the best OL in the league. On passing plays, Barkley would know his assingment and there would only be one guy running free that Barkley could spot because the rest of the line is doing their job well. And so it's easier to recognize and slow down his target.

As the line gets worse, the RB's job is harder because there is more second-guessing about the assignment. On the other end of the spectrum, in the toilet, is the Giants offensive line. They give up pressure quickly and often get beat by stunts and various defensive pressures.

With more guys running free at the QB, I wonder if it causes Barkley, as the last line of defense, to hesitate about whom he should pick up to protect the QB.


Most things in football feed off each other. If the line was better, Barkley's job of blocking would be easier, sure. But things like apparently not seeing the free blitzer, or not anchoring down and getting rolled over, or just reacting to the play faster, are learned behaviors.
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