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NFT: Blue Jays at Yankees 9/16 GDT: The All Rise Edition

Jints in Carolina : 9/16/2020 3:51 pm
Roark vs. Cole

DJ LeMahieu (R) 2B
Aaron Judge (R) RF
Aaron Hicks (S) CF
Luke Voit (R) 1B
Gio Urshela (R) 3B
Clint Frazier (R) LF
Gary Sanchez (R) DH
Tyler Wade (L) SS
Kyle Higashioka (R) C

Cavan Biggio (L) RF
Bo Bichette (R) SS
Travis Shaw (L) 3B
Randal Grichuk (R) CF
Vladimir Guerrero Jr. (R) 1B
Lourdes Gurriel Jr. (R) LF
Joe Panik (L) DH
Jonathan Villar (S) 2B
Danny Jansen (R) C

RISE

praying to the baseball gods  
RasputinPrime : 9/16/2020 4:04 pm : link
that we can just stay healthy the rest of the way. Whatever happens, I want it to be based on the performance of our guys.
Yanks jumped to 5 seed with last nights win  
mfsd : 9/16/2020 4:33 pm : link
2 back of Twins (1 loss column) for 4 seed, to host opening round.

4 games back of Rays in the East

Home field probably means less this year than any other, but I still think the Yanks have an advantage at the Stadium, especially against the Twins

Shaping up as likely we play the Twins in round 1, unless something really changes with about 10-13 games left per team. If Yanks let the Jays pass them again for 2nd in the East, we’re most likely playing opening round at Tampa, Chicago, or Oakland as the 7 or 8 seed
All Rise baby!  
adamg : 9/16/2020 4:37 pm : link
LFG Yanks!
Why Gary instead of Stanton?  
adamg : 9/16/2020 4:38 pm : link
I guess they're easing the guys in. But, the lineup will look better with Stanton and Torres.
RE: Why Gary instead of Stanton?  
Jim in Tampa : 9/16/2020 5:49 pm : link
In comment 14974749 adamg said:
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I guess they're easing the guys in. But, the lineup will look better with Stanton and Torres.

They mentioned on the broadcast last night that Stanton would be sitting today. They want to (as you put it) ease him back into the lineup.

Just get everybody healthy and ready for the playoffs.
I am happy where we are right now,  
Neckbone1333 : 9/16/2020 6:12 pm : link
but here is my problem with Boone.

If you know you are going to be sitting Stanton one of the 2 nights, why would you not sit him last night and play him against Roark today who he has power against historically.

8 for 36 (only .222 average, but still better than Sanchez)
Of the 8 hits, he's got 4 HR, a double and 6 RBI, along with 4 walks

Sanchez is 1-4 off Roark with a single and a walk and no RBIs

which obviously means  
Neckbone1333 : 9/16/2020 6:13 pm : link
Sanchez will homer twice tonight and have 5 RBI
RE: RE: Why Gary instead of Stanton?  
adamg : 9/16/2020 6:16 pm : link
In comment 14974810 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 14974749 adamg said:


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I guess they're easing the guys in. But, the lineup will look better with Stanton and Torres.


They mentioned on the broadcast last night that Stanton would be sitting today. They want to (as you put it) ease him back into the lineup.

Just get everybody healthy and ready for the playoffs.


Thanks. Missed yesterday's game. It was a pleasant surprise this morning. :)
RE: I am happy where we are right now,  
BigBlueShock : 9/16/2020 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14974836 Neckbone1333 said:
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but here is my problem with Boone.

If you know you are going to be sitting Stanton one of the 2 nights, why would you not sit him last night and play him against Roark today who he has power against historically.

8 for 36 (only .222 average, but still better than Sanchez)
Of the 8 hits, he's got 4 HR, a double and 6 RBI, along with 4 walks

Sanchez is 1-4 off Roark with a single and a walk and no RBIs

The nitpicking has gotten to ludicrous levels. Stanton was just activated yesterday, why would they rest him before he played a game? The idea is to get them in a game and then the next day off to monitor how their injuries handled the workload. They also knew Judge would be back today and in the lineup. And just so you know, they’ve already said they will do the same thing with Judge. He will not be in the lineup tomorrow. Can’t wait to read the comments when he’s not in the lineup tomorrow...
RE: RE: I am happy where we are right now,  
Neckbone1333 : 9/16/2020 6:28 pm : link
In comment 14974851 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 14974836 Neckbone1333 said:


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but here is my problem with Boone.

If you know you are going to be sitting Stanton one of the 2 nights, why would you not sit him last night and play him against Roark today who he has power against historically.

8 for 36 (only .222 average, but still better than Sanchez)
Of the 8 hits, he's got 4 HR, a double and 6 RBI, along with 4 walks

Sanchez is 1-4 off Roark with a single and a walk and no RBIs



The nitpicking has gotten to ludicrous levels. Stanton was just activated yesterday, why would they rest him before he played a game? The idea is to get them in a game and then the next day off to monitor how their injuries handled the workload. They also knew Judge would be back today and in the lineup. And just so you know, they’ve already said they will do the same thing with Judge. He will not be in the lineup tomorrow. Can’t wait to read the comments when he’s not in the lineup tomorrow...



Nitpicking? If you are going to play analytics, then play them, or play both days. They didn't have enough time during today to monitor to see if he wasn't injured?
RE: RE: RE: I am happy where we are right now,  
section125 : 9/16/2020 6:54 pm : link
In comment 14974856 Neckbone1333 said:
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In comment 14974851 BigBlueShock said:


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In comment 14974836 Neckbone1333 said:


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but here is my problem with Boone.

If you know you are going to be sitting Stanton one of the 2 nights, why would you not sit him last night and play him against Roark today who he has power against historically.

8 for 36 (only .222 average, but still better than Sanchez)
Of the 8 hits, he's got 4 HR, a double and 6 RBI, along with 4 walks

Sanchez is 1-4 off Roark with a single and a walk and no RBIs



The nitpicking has gotten to ludicrous levels. Stanton was just activated yesterday, why would they rest him before he played a game? The idea is to get them in a game and then the next day off to monitor how their injuries handled the workload. They also knew Judge would be back today and in the lineup. And just so you know, they’ve already said they will do the same thing with Judge. He will not be in the lineup tomorrow. Can’t wait to read the comments when he’s not in the lineup tomorrow...




Nitpicking? If you are going to play analytics, then play them, or play both days. They didn't have enough time during today to monitor to see if he wasn't injured?


It was preordained as stated. Stanton is sitting today, then will play two, then sit. Judge is on the same schedule. It is all about having people healthy for a grueling playoff schedule. Torres can play, but they are giving that quad a little extra time. He can pinch hit and go in late if needed. But when they score 20 more tonight, he will not be needed.
Cole with a K already  
adamg : 9/16/2020 7:09 pm : link
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Judge? Got Judge Back?  
Percy : 9/16/2020 7:11 pm : link
Guess everyone else knew he was going to be there tonight. Lost track of it if I ever knew it. Glad he's back at last.
Cole looking good again  
adamg : 9/16/2020 7:13 pm : link
Let's see if he can finish tonight
THE MACHINE!  
adamg : 9/16/2020 7:15 pm : link
Wowza
.  
arcarsenal : 9/16/2020 7:16 pm : link
DJ is so fucking good.
DJLM  
Percy : 9/16/2020 7:16 pm : link
Bang. Gone! What else did we expect?
I'd give DJ 4-5 years  
adamg : 9/16/2020 7:16 pm : link
He needs to be back
RE: I'd give DJ 4-5 years  
bceagle05 : 9/16/2020 7:20 pm : link
In comment 14974902 adamg said:
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He needs to be back

I’m scared to death of his free agency, especially with the Yankees taking a revenue hit this year. Hope they don’t get too cute.
Luke works the shit  
section125 : 9/16/2020 7:25 pm : link
out of the pitcher...productive out in a perverted way.
RE: Luke works the shit  
adamg : 9/16/2020 7:27 pm : link
In comment 14974911 section125 said:
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out of the pitcher...productive out in a perverted way.


Definitely. 23 pitches in one inning isn't a sustainable pace especially giving up those hard hit balls.

Hicks and Boot both almost got one.
Boot = Voit  
adamg : 9/16/2020 7:27 pm : link
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Cole at 20 pitches through 2  
adamg : 9/16/2020 7:30 pm : link
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Not great ABs  
adamg : 9/16/2020 7:36 pm : link
That half. Gary just missed it.
HIGGY!  
Del Shofner : 9/16/2020 7:47 pm : link
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3-0  
RasputinPrime : 9/16/2020 7:47 pm : link
Higgy goes monumental.
.  
arcarsenal : 9/16/2020 7:47 pm : link
Higgy goes boom.

3-0, Yanks.
Higgy!  
adamg : 9/16/2020 7:48 pm : link
Two run shot. Let's go!
Higashioka!  
Percy : 9/16/2020 7:48 pm : link
Two run contribution. Nice swat.
Higster!  
section125 : 9/16/2020 7:54 pm : link
Did not think he hit it THAT well. It was tagged, but never though it would get out. Nice 3-0
.  
arcarsenal : 9/16/2020 7:54 pm : link
TOR got zero length from Walker last night and Roark is going to need more than 50 pitches just to get through 3 innings here.

I'd love to smash their bullpen again tonight.
RE: .  
RasputinPrime : 9/16/2020 7:58 pm : link
In comment 14974938 arcarsenal said:
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TOR got zero length from Walker last night and Roark is going to need more than 50 pitches just to get through 3 innings here.

I'd love to smash their bullpen again tonight.


I'd love to see Espinal again tonight but these things have a way of evening out.
Red Thunder baby!  
adamg : 9/16/2020 8:13 pm : link
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Red Thunder  
RasputinPrime : 9/16/2020 8:13 pm : link
4-0
Holy shit that was a  
section125 : 9/16/2020 8:13 pm : link
quick swing....4-0 Frazier
Frazier!  
Percy : 9/16/2020 8:13 pm : link
Smash over the fence in left.
.  
arcarsenal : 9/16/2020 8:15 pm : link
Love that Frazier swing.
Gary getting some good fortune  
RasputinPrime : 9/16/2020 8:15 pm : link
takin it.
Hmm, Gary just missed  
section125 : 9/16/2020 8:16 pm : link
in the first AB and he worked the count into a single there...good signs
DJLM!  
Del Shofner : 9/16/2020 8:21 pm : link
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.  
arcarsenal : 9/16/2020 8:21 pm : link
The MACHINE.

Wow, the Yankees are scorching.
La machina!  
adamg : 9/16/2020 8:22 pm : link
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DJLM Again!  
Percy : 9/16/2020 8:22 pm : link
Holy cow! Another over the wall.
any chance  
RasputinPrime : 9/16/2020 8:22 pm : link
we don't sign DJ to a fat contract?

GONE

up to .372 with 9 homers. Sneaking into the MVP conversation if he finishes strong.
good to see  
RasputinPrime : 9/16/2020 8:22 pm : link
Judge getting umped.

6-0
Keep the motor running!  
section125 : 9/16/2020 8:23 pm : link
Head out on the highway

DJLM with his second - a two runner/ 6-0
Who  
dune69 : 9/16/2020 8:23 pm : link
are these guys???
Ha, Judge has been umped  
section125 : 9/16/2020 8:23 pm : link
each at bat...
DJLM is essentially our most important player  
UConn4523 : 9/16/2020 8:25 pm : link
other than Cole. If he isn’t signed it will be a giant kick in the nuts.
RE: DJLM is essentially our most important player  
section125 : 9/16/2020 8:27 pm : link
In comment 14974977 UConn4523 said:
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other than Cole. If he isn’t signed it will be a giant kick in the nuts.


Yep, 3 yrs $45ish maybe 4/$55ish
RE: Ha, Judge has been umped  
Percy : 9/16/2020 8:27 pm : link
In comment 14974975 section125 said:
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each at bat...

First at bat, second strike phony (low). Had to know that was how it was going to go.
RE: RE: DJLM is essentially our most important player  
arcarsenal : 9/16/2020 8:31 pm : link
In comment 14974980 section125 said:
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other than Cole. If he isn’t signed it will be a giant kick in the nuts.



Yep, 3 yrs $45ish maybe 4/$55ish


Tack on an option year and let's do it.

Also, Cole is... pitching really well. I'll leave it at that. :)
Clint is keeping the  
section125 : 9/16/2020 8:44 pm : link
motor running 7-0
RE: RE: DJLM is essentially our most important player  
adamg : 9/16/2020 8:46 pm : link
In comment 14974980 section125 said:
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In comment 14974977 UConn4523 said:


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other than Cole. If he isn’t signed it will be a giant kick in the nuts.



Yep, 3 yrs $45ish maybe 4/$55ish


Less than 16 per? I'd be surprised if he was that cheap.
Some of the strikes called  
section125 : 9/16/2020 8:53 pm : link
already and he calls ball 3 on Biggio?????

Cole loses focus on occasion...
RE: Some of the strikes called  
adamg : 9/16/2020 8:55 pm : link
In comment 14974995 section125 said:
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already and he calls ball 3 on Biggio?????

Cole loses focus on occasion...


He needs to finish as strong as he starts. It's a weird issue he has.
RE: RE: RE: DJLM is essentially our most important player  
section125 : 9/16/2020 8:55 pm : link
In comment 14974992 adamg said:
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In comment 14974977 UConn4523 said:


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other than Cole. If he isn’t signed it will be a giant kick in the nuts.



Yep, 3 yrs $45ish maybe 4/$55ish



Less than 16 per? I'd be surprised if he was that cheap.


He's 32...and yes it could go more, but too much and they may not re-sign.
I'd go 4 for 60 easy  
adamg : 9/16/2020 8:56 pm : link
And that'd be a steal
Higgy!  
adamg : 9/16/2020 8:59 pm : link
Holy shit. He's just knocking the ball.
Higgy Again!  
Percy : 9/16/2020 8:59 pm : link
Another blow outa here!
Higashioka, the home run stroka!  
Greg from LI : 9/16/2020 9:00 pm : link
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Higgy thinks  
dune69 : 9/16/2020 9:00 pm : link
he's Miggy
Who stole our Higgy  
section125 : 9/16/2020 9:03 pm : link
and where did they take him?

OK DJLM worth a lot of coin...
RE: Higashioka, the home run stroka!  
Stu11 : 9/16/2020 9:09 pm : link
In comment 14975005 Greg from LI said:
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Lol was in the car for the firt HR gotta give Sterling credit on that one its a good one.
.  
arcarsenal : 9/16/2020 9:09 pm : link
LUKE.

This is awesome.
LUUUUUKE!  
adamg : 9/16/2020 9:09 pm : link
MVP!
Now Voit for Three!  
Percy : 9/16/2020 9:10 pm : link
Guy was patient though priors and came through. Who else?
Luke comes through  
section125 : 9/16/2020 9:11 pm : link
again......#19
RE: RE: Higashioka, the home run stroka!  
bigbluehoya : 9/16/2020 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14975012 Stu11 said:
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Lol was in the car for the firt HR gotta give Sterling credit on that one its a good one.


His Higgy call has to be a top fiver for me.
Luke for MVP  
terz22 : 9/16/2020 9:20 pm : link
!
That ump just straight up took a fastball to the face  
adamg : 9/16/2020 9:20 pm : link
Wow
RE: That ump just straight up took a fastball to the face  
section125 : 9/16/2020 9:25 pm : link
In comment 14975025 adamg said:
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Wow


That may have been the worst I ever saw. Direct to the mask.
And Cole was throwing 99  
adamg : 9/16/2020 9:29 pm : link
That was something
Gerrit Cole  
dune69 : 9/16/2020 9:32 pm : link
is fantastic. He controls the strike zone. He's his biggest critic. Happy he's a Yankee. #StayHealthy
off a foul tip or did the catcher  
Del Shofner : 9/16/2020 9:33 pm : link
miss it completely?
RE: off a foul tip or did the catcher  
adamg : 9/16/2020 9:34 pm : link
In comment 14975040 Del Shofner said:
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miss it completely?
No tip. No ricochet. Straight up 99 to the face
Cross up. Higgy missed it  
adamg : 9/16/2020 9:34 pm : link
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I'm glad getting hit didn't affect  
NoGainDayne : 9/16/2020 9:35 pm : link
his strikeout karate enthusiasm. He really gets that chop going to ring people up.

Higgy, to me, has to play more over Sanchez right now.

Also I just noticed that they really overlooked in the MVP Voit conversation what the WAR actually was, he's 21 in the AL in WAR right now. I'm just not sure that is high enough for the MVP as much as I am a huge fan of his.
Fangraphs WAR - ( New Window )
.  
arcarsenal : 9/16/2020 9:37 pm : link
Wow.
Higgy Third HR!!  
Percy : 9/16/2020 9:37 pm : link
Really? Yeah, really.
Higgy with the hat trick!  
adamg : 9/16/2020 9:37 pm : link
Wow!
Unbelievable  
dune69 : 9/16/2020 9:39 pm : link
Go Higgy!!
You can only hope to contain the Higster  
adamg : 9/16/2020 9:40 pm : link
Unreal. This team is so fun.
RE: I'm glad getting hit didn't affect  
terz22 : 9/16/2020 9:44 pm : link
In comment 14975044 NoGainDayne said:
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his strikeout karate enthusiasm. He really gets that chop going to ring people up.

Higgy, to me, has to play more over Sanchez right now.

Also I just noticed that they really overlooked in the MVP Voit conversation what the WAR actually was, he's 21 in the AL in WAR right now. I'm just not sure that is high enough for the MVP as much as I am a huge fan of his. Fangraphs WAR - ( New Window )


Really shows how flawed WAR can be. Some of the names above him is absolutely joke.
Well, Higgy has always had good power  
Greg from LI : 9/16/2020 9:45 pm : link
Never been good at getting the bat on the ball at this level, but he can give it a ride when he does.
Not to mention  
terz22 : 9/16/2020 9:47 pm : link
the Angels have 4 players in the top 20 in WAR and still are 9 games under .500. How the fuck does that work?
Man, I bitched about somebody(Higgy)  
section125 : 9/16/2020 9:59 pm : link
a couple days ago and he goes Barry Bonds on me. Touche Mr Higashioka, touche.
WAR severely overvalues defensive metrics  
Greg from LI : 9/16/2020 10:00 pm : link
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RE: WAR severely overvalues defensive metrics  
adamg : 9/16/2020 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14975072 Greg from LI said:
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+3.5
Gary really selling himself with that AB  
adamg : 9/16/2020 10:02 pm : link
Lol
RE: WAR severely overvalues defensive metrics  
adamg : 9/16/2020 10:06 pm : link
In comment 14975072 Greg from LI said:
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What do you think a guy like Kiermaier is worth then? He gets like a 2-3 dwar. And Hit a Tina sub 100 OPS+... I think Hicks is worth a lot more.
And Greg what do you make of Sanchez?  
adamg : 9/16/2020 10:09 pm : link
He's struggling mightily. Are you still staying the course on him?
Oh I see it's in the other thread  
adamg : 9/16/2020 10:19 pm : link
Nvm.
Good win boys!  
adamg : 9/16/2020 10:20 pm : link
Jints keep it up!
RE: Good win boys!  
section125 : 9/16/2020 10:25 pm : link
In comment 14975083 adamg said:
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Jints keep it up!


Jints has his Mojo back. Nice work. Manana
The team is a wrecking ball right now!  
Jints in Carolina : 9/17/2020 8:37 am : link
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Gerrit Cole  
JPinstripes : 9/17/2020 8:43 am : link
Wow...
RE: And Greg what do you make of Sanchez?  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2020 10:18 am : link
In comment 14975077 adamg said:
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He's struggling mightily. Are you still staying the course on him?


I mean....I'm not giving up on him entirely, but we're nearly done with the season. If he doesn't start hitting in the next ten days, I think you have to give Higashioka first crack at the playoffs.
Was that Mike Piazza  
Carson53 : 9/17/2020 10:36 am : link
or somebody they call Higgy. Who would have thunk it.
They are bashing at the moment, keep the train rolling.
Cole looks like he is back on the beam!
A sweep would be nice, they have to go to Buffalo next week for four games.
A little cushion would be nice at this time.
This organization  
Carson53 : 9/17/2020 10:40 am : link
will start El Gary when the playoffs start, you can book it.
Good Lord, they still use him as a DH at times.
RE: This organization  
section125 : 9/17/2020 10:55 am : link
In comment 14975257 Carson53 said:
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will start El Gary when the playoffs start, you can book it.
Good Lord, they still use him as a DH at times.


He will not get better on the bench. Of course they are playing him now. Just looking for something to jump start him. I thought he was a bit better last night, going to right. Seemed to recognize pitches a little better....or maybe it was wishful thinking on my part.
RE: Gerrit Cole  
arcarsenal : 9/17/2020 10:56 am : link
In comment 14975175 JPinstripes said:
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Wow...


He's got that look.
RE: This organization  
Eman11 : 9/17/2020 11:11 am : link
In comment 14975257 Carson53 said:
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will start El Gary when the playoffs start, you can book it.
Good Lord, they still use him as a DH at times.


If he doesn’t pick it up offensively, I don’t think they start him game 1 with Cole on the mound.

No way they risk Cole being less comfortable on the bump unless there’s a significant chance of it paying off with a solid offensive game from Gary.
Forgot to add  
Eman11 : 9/17/2020 11:13 am : link
That’s if everyone else is healthy. Judge in RF, Frazier in LF and Stanton at DH leaves no room for Gary if he’s not catching.
RE: Forgot to add  
Carson53 : 9/17/2020 11:34 am : link
In comment 14975289 Eman11 said:
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That’s if everyone else is healthy. Judge in RF, Frazier in LF and Stanton at DH leaves no room for Gary if he’s not catching.
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I know he won't be a DH when people are healthy,
that's not what I was talking about....Based on his performance, no way he should have been a DH this season.
It's just as I have said previously, they have coddled this guy for far too long now.
RE: RE: Forgot to add  
Eman11 : 9/17/2020 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14975308 Carson53 said:
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That’s if everyone else is healthy. Judge in RF, Frazier in LF and Stanton at DH leaves no room for Gary if he’s not catching.

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I know he won't be a DH when people are healthy,
that's not what I was talking about....Based on his performance, no way he should have been a DH this season.
It's just as I have said previously, they have coddled this guy for far too long now.


I got what you were saying and I was just trying to clarify my post disagreeing with you saying they won’t sit Gary.

In my initial reply I was saying why they would sit him as a catcher with Cole on the mound and realized I forgot to finish my point about how and why he’d also sit that game as DH.

Basically, regardless of how they’ve coddled him in the past, if he doesn’t come out of this offensive funk, he’s riding the pine in game 1 imo.
RE: RE: RE: Forgot to add  
section125 : 9/17/2020 2:19 pm : link
In comment 14975419 Eman11 said:
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In comment 14975289 Eman11 said:


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That’s if everyone else is healthy. Judge in RF, Frazier in LF and Stanton at DH leaves no room for Gary if he’s not catching.

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I know he won't be a DH when people are healthy,
that's not what I was talking about....Based on his performance, no way he should have been a DH this season.
It's just as I have said previously, they have coddled this guy for far too long now.



I got what you were saying and I was just trying to clarify my post disagreeing with you saying they won’t sit Gary.

In my initial reply I was saying why they would sit him as a catcher with Cole on the mound and realized I forgot to finish my point about how and why he’d also sit that game as DH.

Basically, regardless of how they’ve coddled him in the past, if he doesn’t come out of this offensive funk, he’s riding the pine in game 1 imo.


Agree Eman11. But they will continue to play him to try and get him out of his funk, up until the playoffs. Boone admitted that Higgy is catching Cole
No doubt Section  
Eman11 : 9/17/2020 2:56 pm : link
And I think they should try and get him out of his funk, unless it jeopardizes them getting in the playoffs but I think they’re in good shape there.

Gary hitting would be a huge boost to the club and no doubt the team and all of us would love to see it. Problem for me is I’m not seeing many positive signs he’ll get going, and I don’t think he will. Fingers crossed I’m 100% wrong on that.
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