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How will Jones perform vs Chicago?

Route 9 : 9/16/2020 7:35 pm
Let's get the pot boiling. I thought he played OK vs Pittsburgh, great defense. The huge drive I was impressed but it was cancelled out with the interception in the redzone, of course. That one is in the past.

Jones saw Chicago last year and I was just curious about what my friends at BBI thought about this upcoming matchup vs another good defense.

Daniel Jones is 3-10 as a starter thus far in his career.
I predict  
crick n NC : 9/16/2020 7:46 pm : link
Jones will not perform up to bbi standards, regardless of the final outcome.
RE: I predict  
Route 9 : 9/16/2020 7:47 pm : link
In comment 14974921 crick n NC said:
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Jones will not perform up to bbi standards, regardless of the final outcome.


We are BBI.
Really  
mdthedream : 9/16/2020 7:48 pm : link
is about the offensive line than it is about Jones. Jones will perform fine but can the Giants get the running game going? We don't have the weapons to just be a throwing team.
RE: RE: I predict  
crick n NC : 9/16/2020 7:50 pm : link
In comment 14974922 Route 9 said:
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In comment 14974921 crick n NC said:


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Jones will not perform up to bbi standards, regardless of the final outcome.



We are BBI.


Then I am talking about you and me.
Detroit put up 400 yards on the vaunted Chicago defense  
BillT : 9/16/2020 7:50 pm : link
I think Jones will be fine.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/16/2020 7:53 pm : link
I think we beat Chicago. And Jones looks good.
You and I on BBI  
Route 9 : 9/16/2020 7:53 pm : link
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RE: Detroit put up 400 yards on the vaunted Chicago defense  
Route 9 : 9/16/2020 7:54 pm : link
In comment 14974932 BillT said:
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I think Jones will be fine.


I hope they're not pissed off because of it and take it on him!
RE: I predict  
joeinpa : 9/16/2020 7:54 pm : link
In comment 14974921 crick n NC said:
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Jones will not perform up to bbi standards, regardless of the final outcome.


This.

But not from me. I wanted them to draft him. I m thrilled with the results and what could be with this kid.
Like a  
Phil in LA : 9/16/2020 8:05 pm : link
Man, Take Notes.
480 yards  
Jersey Heel : 9/16/2020 8:09 pm : link
5 touchdowns
Returns a punt for a TD too
Jones throws for 600 yds and 7 TDs  
PatersonPlank : 9/16/2020 8:12 pm : link
Barkley runs for 300 yards

BBI still says we should have drafted Darnold.
The int canceled out the 19 play drive  
UConn4523 : 9/16/2020 8:13 pm : link
but it shouldn't cancel your opinion of everything that transpired up to that point. He showed steel balls and got caught trying to make a play. I bet Pitt doesn’t allow a drive like that the rest of the year.
RE: The int canceled out the 19 play drive  
Route 9 : 9/16/2020 8:17 pm : link
In comment 14974957 UConn4523 said:
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but it shouldn't cancel your opinion of everything that transpired up to that point. He showed steel balls and got caught trying to make a play. I bet Pitt doesn’t allow a drive like that the rest of the year.


I mentioned how well he did up until that point but that mistake was frustrating to see.
RE: The int canceled out the 19 play drive  
KeoweeFan : 9/16/2020 8:29 pm : link
In comment 14974957 UConn4523 said:
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but it shouldn't cancel your opinion of everything that transpired up to that point. He showed steel balls and got caught trying to make a play. I bet Pitt doesn’t allow a drive like that the rest of the year.


Just based on what I saw on TV, I can't fault DJ on the interception. It was a well called play and Slayton had gotten behind the mass of Steelers on the goal line.
Given he had to throw across his body, a QB has to assume he is protected from what at that instant was his blind side. If his arm wasn't tipped that was a TD.
RE: RE: The int canceled out the 19 play drive  
Mdgiantsfan : 9/16/2020 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14974963 Route 9 said:
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In comment 14974957 UConn4523 said:


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but it shouldn't cancel your opinion of everything that transpired up to that point. He showed steel balls and got caught trying to make a play. I bet Pitt doesn’t allow a drive like that the rest of the year.



I mentioned how well he did up until that point but that mistake was frustrating to see.


One play canceled out the previous 18; which is crazy but true. At the end of the day this is not just about DJ’s progression. In the words of Herm Edwards “you play to win the game”. We need a W this week.
RE: I predict  
BillKo : 9/16/2020 9:37 pm : link
In comment 14974921 crick n NC said:
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Jones will not perform up to bbi standards, regardless of the final outcome.


He is not allowed to turn the ball over. EVER!

In fact, he's not allowed to even make a throw that simply results in an incompletion, because the decision is poor.

And if the final stat line doesn't resemble something out of Madden, he's just simply not the guy to be running this ship.

RE: 480 yards  
BillKo : 9/16/2020 9:38 pm : link
In comment 14974949 Jersey Heel said:
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5 touchdowns
Returns a punt for a TD too


And that punt was as the gunner.......
RE: RE: The int canceled out the 19 play drive  
lax counsel : 9/16/2020 9:40 pm : link
In comment 14974982 KeoweeFan said:
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In comment 14974957 UConn4523 said:


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but it shouldn't cancel your opinion of everything that transpired up to that point. He showed steel balls and got caught trying to make a play. I bet Pitt doesn’t allow a drive like that the rest of the year.



Just based on what I saw on TV, I can't fault DJ on the interception. It was a well called play and Slayton had gotten behind the mass of Steelers on the goal line.
Given he had to throw across his body, a QB has to assume he is protected from what at that instant was his blind side. If his arm wasn't tipped that was a TD.


Interesting take in both posts. I've gone back and forth on whether he attempting to throw it away or whether it was a throw to Slayton. Would have been cool to see him hit Slayton in the back of the end zone.
He turns over the ball, plenty. Lol.  
Route 9 : 9/16/2020 10:14 pm : link
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Not quite  
crick n NC : 9/16/2020 10:51 pm : link
As much as I. .
If he’s protected by the guys along the OL and is complimented  
The_Boss : 9/16/2020 11:17 pm : link
with a ground game, he should have some success, says Captain Obvious. The problem is Khalil Mack still has the ability to wreck a game. Gun to my head? I think he has a pedestrian game. Something like 220 yards, 1TD/1INT.

I think the game itself on the whole is going to be ugly (for both teams).
My God, this board  
montanagiant : 9/16/2020 11:44 pm : link
Really has some idiots on it
RE: My God, this board  
Route 9 : 9/16/2020 11:49 pm : link
In comment 14975103 montanagiant said:
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Really has some idiots on it


Yeah. Adding name-calling always facilitates the discussion because ya know, idiots.
RE: If he’s protected by the guys along the OL and is complimented  
Route 9 : 9/16/2020 11:50 pm : link
In comment 14975096 The_Boss said:
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with a ground game, he should have some success, says Captain Obvious. The problem is Khalil Mack still has the ability to wreck a game. Gun to my head? I think he has a pedestrian game. Something like 220 yards, 1TD/1INT.

I think the game itself on the whole is going to be ugly (for both teams).


Nice.

Prob the same sort of game as last year in Chicago.
I think he'll play well.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/17/2020 12:41 am : link
Hopefully, this week, he doesn't get his run game completely and utterly taken away from him to an embarrassing level to everyone involved in the run game like he did last week. That would...help.
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montanagiant : 9/17/2020 12:51 am : link
In comment 14975104 Route 9 said:
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Really has some idiots on it



Yeah. Adding name-calling always facilitates the discussion because ya know, idiots.

So does having a negative take on every single damn thing Spanky
Huh? Giants have won  
Route 9 : 9/17/2020 1:37 am : link
12 games since 2016, also, during these years a big fat sausage in the shape of a Vince Lombardi trophy that sits within the Philadelphia Eagles headquarters.

Yeah, I may be a tad annoyed as of "lately."

I just hope we can avoid another good moral victory in the form of another L. You got it, Ralphie. I want a victory as much as you do.

Just trying to get some discussions going. Then, five months later when no one is starting threads, we get those loud echos within the cave wondering where everyone went.
RE: I think he'll play well.  
Route 9 : 9/17/2020 1:41 am : link
In comment 14975112 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Hopefully, this week, he doesn't get his run game completely and utterly taken away from him to an embarrassing level to everyone involved in the run game like he did last week. That would...help.


I remember thinking that Denver was going to obliterate the Giants in 2017 and I went to that game. Eli did a nice job of reading the defense until the very last second and you couldn't tell if it was a run or pass and the Giants had some nice runs. Hope we can get into that sort of thing. Run. Run. Run.
520 yards 8TDs 1 INT because of Engram  
OdellBeckhamJr : 9/17/2020 1:58 am : link
like others mentioned, it comes down to the OL. they've had less than 20 practices together and the Bears DL has continuity. you know they're looking at the Steelers tape and going to do the exact same thing they did by shutting down Barkley.
RE: Huh? Giants have won  
montanagiant : 9/17/2020 2:16 am : link
In comment 14975121 Route 9 said:
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12 games since 2016, also, during these years a big fat sausage in the shape of a Vince Lombardi trophy that sits within the Philadelphia Eagles headquarters.

Yeah, I may be a tad annoyed as of "lately."

I just hope we can avoid another good moral victory in the form of another L. You got it, Ralphie. I want a victory as much as you do.

Just trying to get some discussions going. Then, five months later when no one is starting threads, we get those loud echos within the cave wondering where everyone went.

You really have to be the single most whiniest bitch on this board...LOL
RE: I predict  
Big Blue '56 : 9/17/2020 7:40 am : link
In comment 14974921 crick n NC said:
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Jones will not perform up to bbi standards, regardless of the final outcome.


Mic drop
RE: He turns over the ball, plenty. Lol.  
joeinpa : 9/17/2020 7:46 am : link
In comment 14975081 Route 9 said:
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More than Eli? Also what was Eli s record with this team the prior three years. Some of you are pretty inconsistent when evaluating Jones.

Eli was. Great Giant, but they kept him too long. Thankfully Jones is here now.
hmmm  
giantfan2000 : 9/17/2020 8:05 am : link
Chicago front 7 isn't great .. I really hope we get our running game going or it is going to be a long season

the Bears scored 21 in 4th Quarter and got a huge emotional opening day win.
I am nervous about this game

Maybe  
Toth029 : 9/17/2020 8:13 am : link
The top skill guys show up. It would be nice to have Tate, too.
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christian : 9/17/2020 8:15 am : link
Every team to some degree was thrown into a cold start, so I’m not taking much from week one.

I expect the Bears to have a good defense, and I’d expect them to attack the interior of the Giants line because that’s been their weakness and they have an inexperienced center.

Jones’s performance will be a reflection of how well they can run the ball and how well they can pass protect. The difference between a good and pretty good performance is a few plays. If he’s forced to do it through the air and he’s getting harassed, I expect just an average game.
Jones will be fine  
Heisenberg : 9/17/2020 8:26 am : link
After week 1, I'm more concerned with the Chicago D Line vs our O Line.
RE: RE: He turns over the ball, plenty. Lol.  
Route 9 : 9/17/2020 10:05 am : link
In comment 14975147 joeinpa said:
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More than Eli? Also what was Eli s record with this team the prior three years. Some of you are pretty inconsistent when evaluating Jones.

Eli was. Great Giant, but they kept him too long. Thankfully Jones is here now.


Oh yeah, he did. Never said he didn't and I told others they were right he was done after 2017, but he's gone now. But... This is 2020, I wanted to get a Jones discussion about this week's game going.
RE: ...  
Route 9 : 9/17/2020 10:13 am : link
In comment 14975160 christian said:
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Every team to some degree was thrown into a cold start, so I’m not taking much from week one.

I expect the Bears to have a good defense, and I’d expect them to attack the interior of the Giants line because that’s been their weakness and they have an inexperienced center.

Jones’s performance will be a reflection of how well they can run the ball and how well they can pass protect. The difference between a good and pretty good performance is a few plays. If he’s forced to do it through the air and he’s getting harassed, I expect just an average game.


Agree
I Feel This Game is A Must Win  
LTIsTheGreatest : 9/17/2020 11:19 am : link
with the 49ers, then road games vs the Rams and Cowboys to follow, this could get ugly early. Could be staring at 0-5 if they don't get it going this week
I think Jones will do well. Khalil Mack was quiet  
LBH15 : 9/17/2020 11:28 am : link
in week one so I don't know how often that happens two games in a row.

Evan Engram with a break out game.

Then we smartly trade him on Monday.

RE: I think Jones will do well. Khalil Mack was quiet  
Route 9 : 9/17/2020 11:35 am : link
In comment 14975300 LBH15 said:
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in week one so I don't know how often that happens two games in a row.

Evan Engram with a break out game.

Then we smartly trade him on Monday.


Who do you think would want him?

And what (best) offer do you believe the potential trader could give up for him?
RE: RE: Huh? Giants have won  
Route 9 : 9/17/2020 11:40 am : link
In comment 14975124 montanagiant said:
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You really have to be the single most whiniest bitch on this board...LOL


Haha most of you guys are 15, 20, 30 something years older than me and just use curse words and name-calling without any salient points to your arguments, as if it's the third grade. It's the same pattern, too: I always see one guy crop up, get mad at me, I say we should talk it out and then...nothing.
I'm gonna miss the game live  
JonC : 9/17/2020 11:56 am : link
for a family b-day milestone party. BAH!
RE: Jones will be fine  
ArlingtonMike : 9/17/2020 12:09 pm : link
In comment 14975165 Heisenberg said:
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After week 1, I'm more concerned with the Chicago D Line vs our O Line.

I watched their game and Hicks and Mack were pretty quiet. Their secondary seem average (with some promise) and LBers are aging. We match up pretty decently against them
RE: RE: RE: He turns over the ball, plenty. Lol.  
joeinpa : 9/17/2020 12:20 pm : link
In comment 14975227 Route 9 said:
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More than Eli? Also what was Eli s record with this team the prior three years. Some of you are pretty inconsistent when evaluating Jones.

Eli was. Great Giant, but they kept him too long. Thankfully Jones is here now.



Oh yeah, he did. Never said he didn't and I told others they were right he was done after 2017, but he's gone now. But... This is 2020, I wanted to get a Jones discussion about this week's game going.


By the way I agree , nothing wrong with your post, good to stir the pot.

Got me going,😄
Run game struggles  
uther99 : 9/17/2020 3:02 pm : link
Jones has to put game on his shoulders, makes some mistakes trying to do too much
RE: RE: I think Jones will do well. Khalil Mack was quiet  
LBH15 : 9/17/2020 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14975309 Route 9 said:
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in week one so I don't know how often that happens two games in a row.

Evan Engram with a break out game.

Then we smartly trade him on Monday.




Who do you think would want him?

And what (best) offer do you believe the potential trader could give up for him?


Somebody will want him. Quite frankly I am so down on him right now I might take anything.

Sadly though, we actually need him as a target with no WRs drafted last spring and Tate injured. But this is on the Judge/coaches to get him involved and productive. Judge gave him plenty of compliments this summer, he wants more team speed and keeps quoting its their job to put guys in roles to make them successful.

So go do it.
I think it's pretty clear at this point  
djm : 9/17/2020 5:34 pm : link
that Jones will go as as far as the team around him goes. We don't know how good Jones will be in the championship or clutch moments, but we have seen him drive the team down and score the winning TD in the limited number of chances he has had.

Jones really is the least of our worries. Yes we need to know more about Jones and winning big games and moments, but that's really putting the cart before the horse. We know the guy can play. HE's deadly accurate and gutty and smart. The team is another story. How does the OL play? How does Barkely and the running game fare? Critical drops? Hows the D looking next week? Those are the real questions. Jones isn't.
Jones will be fine and he will make plays  
SGMen : 9/18/2020 2:25 pm : link
But will he be able to make enough plays?

Lets face it, we need to run the ball effectively for Jones to be at his best. Pittsburgh was a tough test and Chicago is only a notch below them so it will be interesting.

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