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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2020 12:39 pm
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If at the end of season 2 Jones has not solved his TO issues  
nym172 : 9/20/2020 1:24 pm : link
you have to move on if Lawrence or Fields is available. He can't be the franchise QB turning the ball over 2-3x a game.
Graham is the same old  
nym172 : 9/20/2020 1:24 pm : link
Has a system, can't adjust. He will be fired after a year, terrible DC pick.
RE: Let’s not go overboard with the fumbling  
Producer : 9/20/2020 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14977314 Simms11 said:
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it happens when the ball gets hit while throwing quite often. Quinn got around Thomas and knocked the ball down while DJ was about to throw.

the problem wasn't the fumble per se. He wasted time in the pocket and panicked, which led to the fumble.
I  
AcidTest : 9/20/2020 1:24 pm : link
agree we need to move Jones, but last week he was under more pressure than any other QB. He can't rollout on every play. He's having the ball slapped away by defenders who would knock it away from almost any QB in those situations. The bad OL is compounded by the fact that aside from Slayton it takes our WRs time to separate.
RE: RE: Dancing Barkley, Fumbling Jones, Swiss Cheese Oline  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/20/2020 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14977316 PatersonPlank said:
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all are true.



How exactly did Barkley dance? You are making up your own facts. He took the handoff and there were 2 guys waiting. Should he just fall down, put his head down and run into their stomach?


He should just hit the designated hole
He has 9 fewer turnovers than Jameis fucking Winston.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/20/2020 1:24 pm : link
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Think I’d rather mow the lawn.  
Giant John : 9/20/2020 1:25 pm : link
Than watch this.
Barkley nice power there.  
Simms11 : 9/20/2020 1:25 pm : link
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A three and out.....  
thrunthrublue : 9/20/2020 1:25 pm : link
Will be a win for this offense.
Wow!  
Simms11 : 9/20/2020 1:25 pm : link
This is not a good start!
RE: when barkley is met in the backfield he seems to stop running  
Producer : 9/20/2020 1:25 pm : link
In comment 14977321 markky said:
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i know it's futile, but he has to try to run through some of those tackles.


the problem there is the play calling.. they need to get barkley in space. he isn't going to break runs when he's met in the backfield.
3 and out  
Big Daddy : 9/20/2020 1:26 pm : link
Awful team. Worst team in the NFL
How is Dave Gettleman still employed?  
Justlurking : 9/20/2020 1:26 pm : link
This team has no talent. He has set the rebuild back 5 years.
Barkley got through the line of scrimmage!  
islander1 : 9/20/2020 1:26 pm : link
holy shit
Let's see what Philly is doing...  
Route 9 : 9/20/2020 1:26 pm : link
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I can't believe I thought we would  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/20/2020 1:26 pm : link
Win this game.
RE: RE: RE: Dancing Barkley, Fumbling Jones, Swiss Cheese Oline  
PatersonPlank : 9/20/2020 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14977327 Thunderstruck27 said:
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In comment 14977306 Thunderstruck27 said:


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all are true.



How exactly did Barkley dance? You are making up your own facts. He took the handoff and there were 2 guys waiting. Should he just fall down, put his head down and run into their stomach?



He should just hit the designated hole


What hole? He never got to a hole. How can you hit a hole when you are getting hit bin the backfield

He just ran for 5 straight up the middle with no hesitation dragging players.
And Dave Gettleman still has a job. SMH  
Dutch77 : 9/20/2020 1:26 pm : link
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Again I ask  
socrates : 9/20/2020 1:26 pm : link
Where is the progress everyone was talking about?
Specials look good!  
adamg : 9/20/2020 1:26 pm : link
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Bears are stacking the line  
Crazed Dogs : 9/20/2020 1:27 pm : link
just like the Steelers.... until the Giants prove they can block someone this is what we are going to see
Three  
AcidTest : 9/20/2020 1:27 pm : link
and out. The defense will quickly get worn out.
RE: Trevor Lawerence countdown  
TommyWiseau : 9/20/2020 1:27 pm : link
In comment 14977294 Paulie Walnuts said:
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Begins


The odds of us getting the first pick is slim to none. We always win a game or two at the end of the year to fuck it up
for  
Producer : 9/20/2020 1:27 pm : link
one week only this is the 86 Bears.

Next week they will suck again.
RE: Trevor lawrence is nice  
markky : 9/20/2020 1:27 pm : link
In comment 14977315 Giantfan21 said:
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But he aint fixing this defense, this offensive line, or barkley being soft as sharmin .

This team that Gettleman put together is a joke and Mara is a bigger clown for still keeping him around


Lawrence would definitely help the OL. And he could keep the D off the field for a breather. He's light years better than what we're seeing from DJ8.
RE: when barkley is met in the backfield he seems to stop running  
halfback20 : 9/20/2020 1:27 pm : link
In comment 14977321 markky said:
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i know it's futile, but he has to try to run through some of those tackles.


Agreed. Stutter steps wont help when 3 defenders have you surrounded. Hit the line hard and try to get a yard or two
NFL is unwatchable  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/20/2020 1:27 pm : link
Too many commercial breaks Golf has it right with playing through style commercials..
Super '70s style......the punter is the best player on the field  
Greg from LI : 9/20/2020 1:28 pm : link
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Enough with the Lawrence crap  
Dave on the UWS : 9/20/2020 1:28 pm : link
He doesn’t have the personality to play in NY. Maybe Jones isn’t the answer but Lawrence isn’t either. Clearly this team isn’t yet at a point where they can win games. The “ they can make the playoffs “ crowd was WAY overly optimistic. The OL still has a ways to go and the defense is a major work in progress. The issues start there m.
Depressing  
D_Giants : 9/20/2020 1:28 pm : link
Bad team.
RE: Bears are stacking the line  
Producer : 9/20/2020 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14977343 Crazed Dogs said:
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just like the Steelers.... until the Giants prove they can block someone this is what we are going to see


the answer to a stacked line is to get Barkley out for screens and flares. the play calling is bad
RE: for  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/20/2020 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14977346 Producer said:
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one week only this is the 86 Bears.

Next week they will suck again.
85 Bears
RE: Graham is the same old  
Simms11 : 9/20/2020 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14977324 nym172 said:
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Has a system, can't adjust. He will be fired after a year, terrible DC pick.


Don’t think that will happen. Judge is very loyal to him. It’ll be a few years before that happens IMO. He’s also an assistant HC?!
RE: Bears are stacking the line  
Mdgiantsfan : 9/20/2020 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14977343 Crazed Dogs said:
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just like the Steelers.... until the Giants prove they can block someone this is what we are going to see


And no time to throw so we are running quick routes, with no one that can threading the secondary. We are in a world of hurt if this doesn't change.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Dancing Barkley, Fumbling Jones, Swiss Cheese Oline  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/20/2020 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14977339 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 14977316 PatersonPlank said:


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all are true.



How exactly did Barkley dance? You are making up your own facts. He took the handoff and there were 2 guys waiting. Should he just fall down, put his head down and run into their stomach?



He should just hit the designated hole



What hole? He never got to a hole. How can you hit a hole when you are getting hit bin the backfield

He just ran for 5 straight up the middle with no hesitation dragging players.


Exactly..he didn't dance..there were players in the backfield then too.
ive been Jones  
mittenedman : 9/20/2020 1:28 pm : link
biggest supporter but he definitely seems to be missing the it factor. he looks way too mechanical and tight
RE: RE: when barkley is met in the backfield he seems to stop running  
PatersonPlank : 9/20/2020 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14977333 Producer said:
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i know it's futile, but he has to try to run through some of those tackles.



the problem there is the play calling.. they need to get barkley in space. he isn't going to break runs when he's met in the backfield.


The issue is when you get hit right after taking the hand off you have no momentum, you've barely taken a step. You can't run through someone from a standing still position. Give him 2 steps then sure, like on the 5 yard run. But that first play he was basically still standing when they were there
Jones was a wasted draft pick  
Big Daddy : 9/20/2020 1:28 pm : link
He sucks
RE: RE: Trevor lawrence is nice  
Toth029 : 9/20/2020 1:29 pm : link
In comment 14977347 markky said:
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But he aint fixing this defense, this offensive line, or barkley being soft as sharmin .

This team that Gettleman put together is a joke and Mara is a bigger clown for still keeping him around



Lawrence would definitely help the OL. And he could keep the D off the field for a breather. He's light years better than what we're seeing from DJ8.


Ok. You sold us.
At least we don't have Beckham to distract  
adamg : 9/20/2020 1:29 pm : link
us from how fucking bad we are
This is  
big_blue : 9/20/2020 1:29 pm : link
Not encouraging this far. When is this ship going to finally turn around
RE: for  
D_Giants : 9/20/2020 1:29 pm : link
In comment 14977346 Producer said:
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one week only this is the 86 Bears.

Next week they will suck again.


Every team they face is SB-caliber.
RE: I can't believe I thought we would  
RDJR : 9/20/2020 1:29 pm : link
In comment 14977338 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Win this game.


Same here.
RE: RE: Trevor lawrence is nice  
Giantfan21 : 9/20/2020 1:29 pm : link
In comment 14977347 markky said:
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But he aint fixing this defense, this offensive line, or barkley being soft as sharmin .

This team that Gettleman put together is a joke and Mara is a bigger clown for still keeping him around



Lawrence would definitely help the OL. And he could keep the D off the field for a breather. He's light years better than what we're seeing from DJ8.


I agree but until they bring in a competent GM and stop using people they are comfortable with in the "giants way " this team is never going anywhere . It all starts with MARA
RE: Bears are stacking the line  
AcidTest : 9/20/2020 1:29 pm : link
In comment 14977343 Crazed Dogs said:
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just like the Steelers.... until the Giants prove they can block someone this is what we are going to see


Agreed. We can't replace the whole OL, but I'd seriously consider Lemieux to replace Zeitler. I'd also use Smith more as a blocking TE.
RE: This is  
BigBlueinDE : 9/20/2020 1:29 pm : link
In comment 14977363 big_blue said:
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Not encouraging this far. When is this ship going to finally turn around


64k question.
The Bears came out ready and we have laid an egg  
SGMen : 9/20/2020 1:29 pm : link
Zeitler - I mean just wow bad now?
RB Montgomery eating them up on the ground...

The Giants DL better pick it up here on 3rd
Lawrence would be a great choice at #1 overall  
Optimus-NY : 9/20/2020 1:30 pm : link
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We're getting steamrolled  
Anakim : 9/20/2020 1:30 pm : link
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Well. This team  
halfback20 : 9/20/2020 1:30 pm : link
sucks.
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