Giants fear RB Saquon Barkley suffered a torn ACL today, sources tell me and @JordanRaanan. One source said the torn ACL was “certainly within the realm” but there will be more tests Monday to make a full and complete determination.
of Tucker Frederickson... may never regain his old form if this is true.
Come on now....
that was 60 years ago. Modern medicine has completely changed the significance of an ACL injury. Look across the league at how many guys have come back from ACL injuries.
You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
And you’ll continue to say it and say it and say it and say it and say it.
I feel bad for the Giants as well because he’s supposed to be a big piece and now he’s gone. Timing is horrible with a contract decision looming, there is absolutely no way in the world the Giants can offer him serious money. He’ll have to come back on his rookie deal and prove he’s the same guy next season. Even then I think letting him walk will prove to be the right move.
Whatever happens I don’t want Gettleman making the call.
of Tucker Frederickson... may never regain his old form if this is true.
He may have to go the Ottis Anderson/Rodney Hapmpton route by putting on weight and becoming a between-the-tackles power back.
That makes him a wasted pick in this NFL. You have to hope he fully recovers, as many athletes do from ACL injuries these days. Unfortunately, this means he very likely misses part of next season also, so this could essentially kill 2 years of his rookie deal. That leaves him playing for a contract in the final year.
I feel bad for the Giants as well because he’s supposed to be a big piece and now he’s gone. Timing is horrible with a contract decision looming, there is absolutely no way in the world the Giants can offer him serious money. He’ll have to come back on his rookie deal and prove he’s the same guy next season. Even then I think letting him walk will prove to be the right move.
Whatever happens I don’t want Gettleman making the call.
Depending on severity, next year could be a bit of a wash. Eecovery is usually more than a year. There is a good chance he would miss camp next year depending on when he has surgery...assuming he needs it.
Right now, our best bet is this comes back as a sprained or hyperextended knee.
Gallman gets his chance, and we should also look at Freeman
hope it's a non-complicated surgery and he can get himself 100% for next year. He looked like he was running with anger and about to break loose for a big day too.
He was the guy I wanted then and I still think it was the right move. But, I'm sure you guys would be happier with no running back and Darnold struggling in his 3rd year at QB, right?
You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
Can you just shut the fuck up, for once? Not the thread for this you insecure zero.
You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
Can you just shut the fuck up, for once? Not the thread for this you insecure zero.
You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
What a scumbag comment to make on a injury thread. What’s wrong with you?
You can tell with flexibility tests prior to the MRI, it's a pretty easy diagnosis these days. We may very well be picking 1st, but at least if we take another QB he'll have a LT to protect him.
You can tell with flexibility tests prior to the MRI, it's a pretty easy diagnosis these days. We may very well be picking 1st, but at least if we take another QB he'll have a LT to protect him.
You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
is the Giants are smart, this injury can be used as a re-start. Move on from Jones and Barkley, get rid of Gettleman and do a proper rebuild.
Now you're talking. I still have hope for DJ, but we should definitely move on from Getts and Barkley. And absolutely, hit the reset button this offseason.
You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
You continue to sound like the fucking morons who while Barkley is writhing on the ground in pain are typing "Fire Gettleman".
I used to think we had knowledgeable, classy fans, but time and again I'm shown that we have some real fucking imbeciles supporting this team.
You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
You continue to sound like the fucking morons who while Barkley is writhing on the ground in pain are typing "Fire Gettleman".
I used to think we had knowledgeable, classy fans, but time and again I'm shown that we have some real fucking imbeciles supporting this team.
Nah every week that passes it seems I’ve been proven more and more right. Tough for you and others to acknowledge you were wrong, i understand, but that draft pick is going to end up being the downfall of Gettleman. Sorry if you still can’t see what’s now staring you in the face.
You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
You continue to sound like the fucking morons who while Barkley is writhing on the ground in pain are typing "Fire Gettleman".
I used to think we had knowledgeable, classy fans, but time and again I'm shown that we have some real fucking imbeciles supporting this team.
Nah every week that passes it seems I’ve been proven more and more right. Tough for you and others to acknowledge you were wrong, i understand, but that draft pick is going to end up being the downfall of Gettleman. Sorry if you still can’t see what’s now staring you in the face.
and if it were up to you, Sam Darnold would be our quarterback. You can try to beat this drum as much as you like, but that fact won’t change.
See, now that Darnold looks like ass, you’ve changed your point from: “should have drafted Darnold over Barkley” to “you can’t take a RB high”
who sit here before a full diagnosis has officially been released and say that his career is over or that he will never be the same, never be worth a second contract...you are SAD, SAD people.
Yes, it sucks and we are all upset. First, think of how he feels. A guy who works so hard and gives everything he has, and his season is over. He missed out on a big contract extension this offseason just to top it off.
And- it's like some of you haven't taken yourself out of pre-modern medicine era where ACL injuries are a career ender. Guys come back from ACL's all of the time- Peterson, Chubb (multiple acl tears), Dalvin Cook, Jamaal Charles etc etc
You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
You continue to sound like the fucking morons who while Barkley is writhing on the ground in pain are typing "Fire Gettleman".
I used to think we had knowledgeable, classy fans, but time and again I'm shown that we have some real fucking imbeciles supporting this team.
Nah every week that passes it seems I’ve been proven more and more right. Tough for you and others to acknowledge you were wrong, i understand, but that draft pick is going to end up being the downfall of Gettleman. Sorry if you still can’t see what’s now staring you in the face.
What you can't get through your fucking head is that you'd rather be right than the Giants be good.
You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
You continue to sound like the fucking morons who while Barkley is writhing on the ground in pain are typing "Fire Gettleman".
I used to think we had knowledgeable, classy fans, but time and again I'm shown that we have some real fucking imbeciles supporting this team.
Nah every week that passes it seems I’ve been proven more and more right. Tough for you and others to acknowledge you were wrong, i understand, but that draft pick is going to end up being the downfall of Gettleman. Sorry if you still can’t see what’s now staring you in the face.
What you can't get through your fucking head is that you'd rather be right than the Giants be good.
You really can go fuck yourself. Zero class.
I’d rather be proven wrong. But unfortunately the results speak for themselves. It was an obvious mistake on draft night that has continued to haunt this team. And most ‘fans’ are too blinded by their love to acknowledge that.
is not justification for posting some shitty response about a guy who just blew out his season. I don't see fans who want to see the team win gloating about being right about draft picks.
Your repeated posts about "being right" are beyond stupid, offensive, and insulting,when the guy you are "right about" just blew out his ACL.
I pray you're not the Josh from this forum that I'm FB friends with... Holy cow if you are. I didn't think Jews could be as stupid as you are acting in this thread. And then doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on the point.
If you use hindsight as your guide (not to mention bail on the shit choice YOU would have made in real time), every Giants draft pick ever should have been someone else, except LT. And maybe Diehl in the 5th round...
Sure, if we knew Solder was going to be trash and that SB would get injured in successive seasons, it was the wrong pick. I can't argue with that hindsight. However, knowing everything we know about his character and talent it was reasonable pick. The Browns were considering taking him at 1.
That said, some of you are fucking cunts. Stinky, oozing ones at that. None on wants you around. You smell awful and can infect anyone you come into contact with. Just go away and never come back, Gollum. This is no day to gloat.
I actually don't think you'd rather be proven wrong
I just keep getting more and more frustrated by the stupidity of the pick as my initial reaction has been proven to be right. I'd give anything to have been wrong and for Saquon to have defied all odds to make me eat my words. But unfortunately, that hasn't come close to actually coming to fruition.
well I guess I can do it too. Darnold looks awful, so we'd be in the exact same spot we are in now, only no hope at all at QB in all likelihood, hoping to tank to get Lawrence.
So you were wrong (and I was too as I would have been fine with Darnold).
fuck has your initial reaction been right?? You keep saying this - but literally your initial reaction was that Barkley was a terrible pick and by passing on Darnold we are missing out on a franchise QB.
Seems to me, at least part of that is woefully wrong - why the fuck aren't you owing up to that or crowing about it?
In fact why the fuck are you patting yourself on the back for a statement that isn't even proving you to be right?
I just keep getting more and more frustrated by the stupidity of the pick as my initial reaction has been proven to be right. I'd give anything to have been wrong and for Saquon to have defied all odds to make me eat my words. But unfortunately, that hasn't come close to actually coming to fruition.
Serious question. Are you aware of the lack of class you displayed by using the news of a player suffering a serious injury to say, "I was right"?
I said that while Darnold would have been my pick, I would have been happy with any of the QB's. The one thing you absolutely do NOT do is draft a RB at #2 overall. And now you've all seen why.
you keep backtracking, its pretty hilarious. I can make a legitimate argument that getting the QB wrong is worse than anything else we could have done.
If the Jets don't get the #1 pick and can't take Lawrence, what do they do next year? Pick up Darnold's 5th year option? Extend him? Let him go and start over after 4 years?
If we drafted Rosen or Darnold how long do we play them until moving on?
How is either scenario better than what we have now?
You were wrong, own it, especially if you are going to keep boasting on every Barkley or DG thread.
equal risk there. And if he comes back and plays relatively well you will then be making the decision to pay him DE money which is basically double that of a RB as far as guarantees go (sometimes triple).
So this whole "anyone else but Barkley" bit actually has some really poor alternatives when using the ole crystal ball.
It's a "hindsight is 20/20" thing to use this injury
to say the Barkley pick was wrong, but part of the argument against taking a RB high in the draft has always been the injury risks.
In general, with the way the game is played now and with the durability concerns at the position, taking a RB high in the draft is probably not the wisest decision, but in this case the alternatives weren't much better.
Taking Darnold or Rosen would have been a disaster, and Allen is off to a nice start this season, but I am not completely sold on him just yet. I don't remember Denzel Ward being in the conversation (he's looking like a heck of a player), Chubb's ACL injury makes the durability argument moot, and taking a Guard at 2 is just as frowned upon as taking an RB.
At the end of the day, the Barkley injury sucks, but he should make a full recovery and be as good as ever. At least we didn't get stuck with Darnold or Rosen...
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Giants fear RB Saquon Barkley suffered a torn ACL today, sources tell me and @JordanRaanan. One source said the torn ACL was “certainly within the realm” but there will be more tests Monday to make a full and complete determination.
Second....looking like a lost season
Now forget it....
Is there even a point haha
Yeah that’s a useful post. Asshole.
That is unfortunately possible, but an unknown obviously.
Come on now....
that was 60 years ago. Modern medicine has completely changed the significance of an ACL injury. Look across the league at how many guys have come back from ACL injuries.
He may have to go the Ottis Anderson/Rodney Hapmpton route by putting on weight and becoming a between-the-tackles power back.
And you’ll continue to say it and say it and say it and say it and say it.
Whatever happens I don’t want Gettleman making the call.
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of Tucker Frederickson... may never regain his old form if this is true.
He may have to go the Ottis Anderson/Rodney Hapmpton route by putting on weight and becoming a between-the-tackles power back.
Whatever happens I don’t want Gettleman making the call.
Right now, our best bet is this comes back as a sprained or hyperextended knee.
If the OL continues to get better we can still compete
I do give them credit for nearly coming back in the second half.
Strange thread to continue your argument
Can you just shut the fuck up, for once? Not the thread for this you insecure zero.
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You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
Can you just shut the fuck up, for once? Not the thread for this you insecure zero.
And Jones is definitely NOT, to this point in time, ruling out a play for another QB.
I don't think he's comfortable in Garrett's offense yet, but he has some issues that need correcting big time.
They'll bring up Rod Smith, he can play and knows the offense.
What a scumbag comment to make on a injury thread. What’s wrong with you?
Getting Penei Sewell would be many steps forward.
You’re the worst.
Now you're talking. I still have hope for DJ, but we should definitely move on from Getts and Barkley. And absolutely, hit the reset button this offseason.
You continue to sound like the fucking morons who while Barkley is writhing on the ground in pain are typing "Fire Gettleman".
I used to think we had knowledgeable, classy fans, but time and again I'm shown that we have some real fucking imbeciles supporting this team.
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You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
You continue to sound like the fucking morons who while Barkley is writhing on the ground in pain are typing "Fire Gettleman".
I used to think we had knowledgeable, classy fans, but time and again I'm shown that we have some real fucking imbeciles supporting this team.
Nah every week that passes it seems I’ve been proven more and more right. Tough for you and others to acknowledge you were wrong, i understand, but that draft pick is going to end up being the downfall of Gettleman. Sorry if you still can’t see what’s now staring you in the face.
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You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
You continue to sound like the fucking morons who while Barkley is writhing on the ground in pain are typing "Fire Gettleman".
I used to think we had knowledgeable, classy fans, but time and again I'm shown that we have some real fucking imbeciles supporting this team.
Nah every week that passes it seems I’ve been proven more and more right. Tough for you and others to acknowledge you were wrong, i understand, but that draft pick is going to end up being the downfall of Gettleman. Sorry if you still can’t see what’s now staring you in the face.
and if it were up to you, Sam Darnold would be our quarterback. You can try to beat this drum as much as you like, but that fact won’t change.
See, now that Darnold looks like ass, you’ve changed your point from: “should have drafted Darnold over Barkley” to “you can’t take a RB high”
Yes, it sucks and we are all upset. First, think of how he feels. A guy who works so hard and gives everything he has, and his season is over. He missed out on a big contract extension this offseason just to top it off.
And- it's like some of you haven't taken yourself out of pre-modern medicine era where ACL injuries are a career ender. Guys come back from ACL's all of the time- Peterson, Chubb (multiple acl tears), Dalvin Cook, Jamaal Charles etc etc
Such negative people in here.
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You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
You continue to sound like the fucking morons who while Barkley is writhing on the ground in pain are typing "Fire Gettleman".
I used to think we had knowledgeable, classy fans, but time and again I'm shown that we have some real fucking imbeciles supporting this team.
Nah every week that passes it seems I’ve been proven more and more right. Tough for you and others to acknowledge you were wrong, i understand, but that draft pick is going to end up being the downfall of Gettleman. Sorry if you still can’t see what’s now staring you in the face.
What you can't get through your fucking head is that you'd rather be right than the Giants be good.
You really can go fuck yourself. Zero class.
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You don’t take a RB at #2 overall (aside from the fact that they have no impact on wins and losses) - they don’t last. I’ll continue to say it...absolutely brutal pick by Gettleman. At least we likely won’t be exacerbating it by spending a ridiculous amount to extend him.
You continue to sound like the fucking morons who while Barkley is writhing on the ground in pain are typing "Fire Gettleman".
I used to think we had knowledgeable, classy fans, but time and again I'm shown that we have some real fucking imbeciles supporting this team.
Nah every week that passes it seems I’ve been proven more and more right. Tough for you and others to acknowledge you were wrong, i understand, but that draft pick is going to end up being the downfall of Gettleman. Sorry if you still can’t see what’s now staring you in the face.
What you can't get through your fucking head is that you'd rather be right than the Giants be good.
You really can go fuck yourself. Zero class.
I’d rather be proven wrong. But unfortunately the results speak for themselves. It was an obvious mistake on draft night that has continued to haunt this team. And most ‘fans’ are too blinded by their love to acknowledge that.
You are really dense aren't you?
You are really dense aren't you?
Nope, you’re just blind.
You were fucking right! Want a cookie?
I pray you're not the Josh from this forum that I'm FB friends with... Holy cow if you are. I didn't think Jews could be as stupid as you are acting in this thread. And then doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on the point.
If you use hindsight as your guide (not to mention bail on the shit choice YOU would have made in real time), every Giants draft pick ever should have been someone else, except LT. And maybe Diehl in the 5th round...
Give it a rest and go beat off or something.
That said, some of you are fucking cunts. Stinky, oozing ones at that. None on wants you around. You smell awful and can infect anyone you come into contact with. Just go away and never come back, Gollum. This is no day to gloat.
So you were wrong (and I was too as I would have been fine with Darnold).
Seems to me, at least part of that is woefully wrong - why the fuck aren't you owing up to that or crowing about it?
In fact why the fuck are you patting yourself on the back for a statement that isn't even proving you to be right?
Serious question. Are you aware of the lack of class you displayed by using the news of a player suffering a serious injury to say, "I was right"?
If you pick Darnold or Rosen - the next two rated QB's behind Mayfield - we are no better off.
Yet here you sit, repeating over and over again that you were absolutely right.
Get a fucking dictionary and learn the meaning of absolutely, preferably when you aren't pumping your fist celebrating Barkley's injury.
Dictionaries can cause some damage to windows and walls when propelled....
If the Jets don't get the #1 pick and can't take Lawrence, what do they do next year? Pick up Darnold's 5th year option? Extend him? Let him go and start over after 4 years?
If we drafted Rosen or Darnold how long do we play them until moving on?
How is either scenario better than what we have now?
You were wrong, own it, especially if you are going to keep boasting on every Barkley or DG thread.
So this whole "anyone else but Barkley" bit actually has some really poor alternatives when using the ole crystal ball.
In general, with the way the game is played now and with the durability concerns at the position, taking a RB high in the draft is probably not the wisest decision, but in this case the alternatives weren't much better.
Taking Darnold or Rosen would have been a disaster, and Allen is off to a nice start this season, but I am not completely sold on him just yet. I don't remember Denzel Ward being in the conversation (he's looking like a heck of a player), Chubb's ACL injury makes the durability argument moot, and taking a Guard at 2 is just as frowned upon as taking an RB.
At the end of the day, the Barkley injury sucks, but he should make a full recovery and be as good as ever. At least we didn't get stuck with Darnold or Rosen...