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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/20/2020 3:57 pm
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The moral victory folks  
socrates : 9/20/2020 4:56 pm : link
are in for a rude awakening. Let's see if they have a win after 8 games.
RE: Oh and by the way we are tied for second still in the division  
LBH15 : 9/20/2020 4:58 pm : link
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probably 1 game out of first.

Everyone knew the 1st half was for building. This game made me more hopeful, not less


This is my favorite post of the year I think.
RE: Same thing  
Dutch77 : 9/20/2020 4:58 pm : link
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I have been seeing for the last several years.

Agreed!
Needed to win this game..  
Sean : 9/20/2020 5:00 pm : link
The TD they gave up right before the half was inexcusable. Only coming with 3 points twice, especially off the INT was inexcusable.

I like Jones, but where are the points? 16 points last week and 13 today. That is not enough.

0-2 now staring down SF, LAR & DAL. Could easily see 0-5. There’s no spinning this, this team NEVER wins.
Our WRs are slow.  
Clintqb17 : 9/20/2020 5:09 pm : link
It takes too long for them to get down the field. That coupled with a shaky offensive line is a bad combination.
Get Real  
Jeffrey : 9/20/2020 5:11 pm : link
The Bears are not a good team. The Steelers are good but not a powerhouse. The supposed strength of the defense was stopping the run and yet there is no evidence of this as a strength. Very little pass rush. Still hope that Jones will be the guy, but his management of the Lsst few plays was absolutely not impressive. Without Barkley, and with Shepard a constant injury victim this offense may be weaker than the defense.

Too early to expect a DG firing, but it’s already guaranteed to be the highlight of what looks rot be another horrible season.
Off-topic a bit, but  
81_Great_Dane : 9/20/2020 5:14 pm : link
can you imagine what we and all Giants fans would be feeling/thinking/saying if the Jets were good?

It's depressing enough watching this years-long shit show. If the Jets were good, it'd be unbearable .
the fucking ref throws a flag for a flop then Chicago actually commits  
gtt350 : 9/20/2020 5:24 pm : link
PI.
Do people expect Garrett  
CT Charlie : 9/20/2020 5:28 pm : link
to have everything figured out after 20 practices and no preseason games? And then Saquon goes out? For years, we've been talking about our inability to make halftime adjustments, and today we improved on both sides of the ball after the break.
RE: Do people expect Garrett  
Mdgiantsfan : 9/20/2020 5:38 pm : link
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to have everything figured out after 20 practices and no preseason games? And then Saquon goes out? For years, we've been talking about our inability to make halftime adjustments, and today we improved on both sides of the ball after the break.


So should we expect a complete game next week?
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montanagiant : 9/20/2020 5:39 pm : link
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Honestly I think people are insane with what they are expecting out of this team with a new staff a new set of schemes and a ton of new faces. Especially on the OL. And with basically NO PRESEASON.



The first half of this game wasn't even professional football. If you are okay with that, your judgement needs adjusting.


Who said I'm OK with it? But if you are expecting different against established programs, I mean come on...



Everyone should expect them to at least appear prepared to play. That's crazy that you wouldn't.


Dude. A new coach. New schemes. ZERO preseason games. This is basically our preseason. Against established teams with very good defenses. Honestly I just don't know what else to say.

I don't know why this has to be explained repeatedly! They had 14 days of practice in Pads to take in a new Coach, new Scheme, new Playbooks, etc..etc..

And yet with all that against them they have played 2 competitive games against two of the better teams in the NFL
RE: Get Real  
montanagiant : 9/20/2020 5:40 pm : link
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The Bears are not a good team. The Steelers are good but not a powerhouse. The supposed strength of the defense was stopping the run and yet there is no evidence of this as a strength. Very little pass rush. Still hope that Jones will be the guy, but his management of the Lsst few plays was absolutely not impressive. Without Barkley, and with Shepard a constant injury victim this offense may be weaker than the defense.


Too early to expect a DG firing, but it’s already guaranteed to be the highlight of what looks rot be another horrible season.

Steelers are picked by many to get to the SB and the Bears have one of the best D's in the NFL
RE: Sick of moral victories.  
SGMen : 9/20/2020 5:41 pm : link
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A loss is a loss.So many issues beyond personnel here. Schemes outright sucked. I see no growth so far from DJ.I have been a big supporter but he either locks onto his #1 or tries to thread the needle into tight spaces which gets him in trouble. On the defensive side, what happened to the pass rush that seemingly put good pressure last week on Big Ben. They should have blitzed the shit out of Trubisky. And don't get me started on the ridiculous play with 8 seconds for 4 yards instead of taking a shot into the end zone. No moral victories today.
I agree at the end of the game you had two quick shots to the endzone. Bad play calling.
RE: RE: Another loss.  
FStubbs : 9/20/2020 5:45 pm : link
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And SF will steamroll us next week.



They have about 12 starters out including Bosa and their QB


And they still have a much better roster.
RE: RE: Showed fight?  
FStubbs : 9/20/2020 5:46 pm : link
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How about doing something in the first half and not giving the game away. I have news for you the Bears suck. Can’t be them it’s going to be a long long season.
I am sorry about our running back. That’s a loss to the team. Big question as to whether he will be back to what he was.


The Bears do not suck. They have some talent on the roster especially on defense. Their OL is not terrible, and they had top ten rated defense the last 2 years. 12-4 and 8-8 under Nagy. And the reason they struggled last year was because of Trubisky, who seems to be playing better.


Trubisky stunk last week and will stink going forward. The Giants are just so bad they make him look good.
The fact we're even in these games  
Giant4Life : 9/20/2020 6:03 pm : link
Given the lousy talent on this team is a testament to Joe Judge and the coaching staff. We aren't committing a lot of penalties and we seem to be in a position to make a play, we just don't make it. That's on the GM. We need an infusion of talent, and Gettleman isn't up to the task. I say can him at the end of the season and promote Judge to HC/GM. He couldn't be worse than our last two GMs.
Is it too early to say I’ve seen enough Of Ballentine?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/20/2020 6:05 pm : link
I’ve definitely seen enough Patrick Graham 3 man rushes to last a lifetime.

This game was depressing to watch, then they decided to make it close enough to have a chance for a final kick in the balls. This is just a bad fucking football team that really doesn’t look much different than last season. I hope we can see gradual improvement like the Dolphins last season. That’s pretty much all we have at this point. I’m looking forward to Sy’s recap because I need to know if people were open and Jones was missing them or if the entire thing was a disaster. Few things say Giants football this decade quite like allowing a 23 yard run on 1st & 25.

Sorry for Quads. Get better brother.
Each new coach and system  
crick n NC : 9/20/2020 6:17 pm : link
Takes patience regardless. Then add in a rookie coach. Just because people don't think they should have to be patient because of how poor the team has been doesn't mean there won't be required time for new coaches, new players, new schemes, and no preseason to see what we have going forward.
Don’t even know where to start with this team  
WillVAB : 9/20/2020 6:21 pm : link
The guys brought in to be impact players simply aren’t.

Very little to be comfortable with on this roster moving forward.
Sick of the losing  
DavidinBMNY : 9/20/2020 6:26 pm : link
It just grows old. Biggest thing for them is Jones has to stop with the turnovers or be replaced next year.

RE: RE: Get Real  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/20/2020 6:47 pm : link
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The Bears are not a good team. The Steelers are good but not a powerhouse. The supposed strength of the defense was stopping the run and yet there is no evidence of this as a strength. Very little pass rush. Still hope that Jones will be the guy, but his management of the Lsst few plays was absolutely not impressive. Without Barkley, and with Shepard a constant injury victim this offense may be weaker than the defense.


Too early to expect a DG firing, but it’s already guaranteed to be the highlight of what looks rot be another horrible season.


Steelers are picked by many to get to the SB and the Bears have one of the best D's in the NFL



Stop. The Bears are going to fight it out with Detroit for second place in that division and the Steelers are no where near the Ravens, much less the Chiefs. They’re both better than the Giants but big whoop.

This is a bad team with very little talent. Name a player that would play elsewhere from the back 7.

The losing will continue until more talent gets added, and the people currently in charge are responsible for the current talent, so don’t hold out hope.
Huh??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/20/2020 6:50 pm : link
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This is a bad team with very little talent. Name a player that would play elsewhere from the back 7.


How about Bradberry and Ryan? Blake Martinez?
RE: Huh??  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/20/2020 6:58 pm : link
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This is a bad team with very little talent. Name a player that would play elsewhere from the back 7.



How about Bradberry and Ryan? Blake Martinez?


Bradbury maybe. Did Martinez look good today? When the Bears wanted to run, they did.

Neither are superstars and both were FA. WHOOPTY WHOOP.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 9/20/2020 7:16 pm : link
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Honestly I think people are insane with what they are expecting out of this team with a new staff a new set of schemes and a ton of new faces. Especially on the OL. And with basically NO PRESEASON.



The first half of this game wasn't even professional football. If you are okay with that, your judgement needs adjusting.


Who said I'm OK with it? But if you are expecting different against established programs, I mean come on...



Everyone should expect them to at least appear prepared to play. That's crazy that you wouldn't.


Dude. A new coach. New schemes. ZERO preseason games. This is basically our preseason. Against established teams with very good defenses. Honestly I just don't know what else to say.


I don't know why this has to be explained repeatedly! They had 14 days of practice in Pads to take in a new Coach, new Scheme, new Playbooks, etc..etc..

And yet with all that against them they have played 2 competitive games against two of the better teams in the NFL


Even the head coach doesn't agree with this sentiment. Fans are just a lot more willing to make excuses.
The Bears last drive  
Ike#88 : 9/20/2020 7:16 pm : link
they ran the ball down our throats. Same as the the last how many years we could not get a stop on defense early to give our offense more time. Had to use all our timeouts while they controlled the ball. Williams is a big person but no threat in the pass rush and in containment. Just slow. F DG for this. He never heard Ernie A say you can never have enough pass rushers? We have D tackles who can't stop the run when it counts. We have no pass rushers the other team has to plan for. We still have no quality linebackers. On our last drive why do we not throw the ball into the end zone once we are inside the 20? Eli did this his last 3 years as well. Dink and dunk but no score at the end.
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crick n NC : 9/20/2020 7:24 pm : link
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Honestly I think people are insane with what they are expecting out of this team with a new staff a new set of schemes and a ton of new faces. Especially on the OL. And with basically NO PRESEASON.



The first half of this game wasn't even professional football. If you are okay with that, your judgement needs adjusting.


Who said I'm OK with it? But if you are expecting different against established programs, I mean come on...



Everyone should expect them to at least appear prepared to play. That's crazy that you wouldn't.


Dude. A new coach. New schemes. ZERO preseason games. This is basically our preseason. Against established teams with very good defenses. Honestly I just don't know what else to say.


I don't know why this has to be explained repeatedly! They had 14 days of practice in Pads to take in a new Coach, new Scheme, new Playbooks, etc..etc..

And yet with all that against them they have played 2 competitive games against two of the better teams in the NFL



Even the head coach doesn't agree with this sentiment. Fans are just a lot more willing to make excuses.


There is a difference between reasons and excuses.
RE: The Bears last drive  
Angel Eyes : 9/20/2020 7:33 pm : link
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they ran the ball down our throats. Same as the the last how many years we could not get a stop on defense early to give our offense more time. Had to use all our timeouts while they controlled the ball. Williams is a big person but no threat in the pass rush and in containment. Just slow. F DG for this. He never heard Ernie A say you can never have enough pass rushers? We have D tackles who can't stop the run when it counts. We have no pass rushers the other team has to plan for. We still have no quality linebackers. On our last drive why do we not throw the ball into the end zone once we are inside the 20? Eli did this his last 3 years as well. Dink and dunk but no score at the end.

He must have not gotten the memo about the pass rushers despite being working with the Giants when Accorsi was GM; we've never gone anywhere without pass rushers, way back to the 1950s and 1960s teams that challenged the Baltimore Colts and the Green Bay Packers, the Big Blue Wrecking Crew of the 1980s, and the two Super Bowl teams with Tom Coughlin and Eli Manning.
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montanagiant : 9/20/2020 7:54 pm : link
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Honestly I think people are insane with what they are expecting out of this team with a new staff a new set of schemes and a ton of new faces. Especially on the OL. And with basically NO PRESEASON.



The first half of this game wasn't even professional football. If you are okay with that, your judgement needs adjusting.


Who said I'm OK with it? But if you are expecting different against established programs, I mean come on...



Everyone should expect them to at least appear prepared to play. That's crazy that you wouldn't.


Dude. A new coach. New schemes. ZERO preseason games. This is basically our preseason. Against established teams with very good defenses. Honestly I just don't know what else to say.


I don't know why this has to be explained repeatedly! They had 14 days of practice in Pads to take in a new Coach, new Scheme, new Playbooks, etc..etc..

And yet with all that against them they have played 2 competitive games against two of the better teams in the NFL



Even the head coach doesn't agree with this sentiment. Fans are just a lot more willing to make excuses.

Yeah, the new HC should make excuses regarding this because that's a smart look even though basic common sense knows it's an issue. Give me a break.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 9/20/2020 7:55 pm : link
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Honestly I think people are insane with what they are expecting out of this team with a new staff a new set of schemes and a ton of new faces. Especially on the OL. And with basically NO PRESEASON.



The first half of this game wasn't even professional football. If you are okay with that, your judgement needs adjusting.


Who said I'm OK with it? But if you are expecting different against established programs, I mean come on...



Everyone should expect them to at least appear prepared to play. That's crazy that you wouldn't.


Dude. A new coach. New schemes. ZERO preseason games. This is basically our preseason. Against established teams with very good defenses. Honestly I just don't know what else to say.


I don't know why this has to be explained repeatedly! They had 14 days of practice in Pads to take in a new Coach, new Scheme, new Playbooks, etc..etc..

And yet with all that against them they have played 2 competitive games against two of the better teams in the NFL



Even the head coach doesn't agree with this sentiment. Fans are just a lot more willing to make excuses.



There is a difference between reasons and excuses.


There is no legitimate "reason" for them to come out of the gate as embarrassingly as they did. Case in point, the coach lights into them at half time and they end up playing a consistent 30 minutes.
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Angel Eyes : 9/20/2020 7:57 pm : link
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Honestly I think people are insane with what they are expecting out of this team with a new staff a new set of schemes and a ton of new faces. Especially on the OL. And with basically NO PRESEASON.



The first half of this game wasn't even professional football. If you are okay with that, your judgement needs adjusting.


Who said I'm OK with it? But if you are expecting different against established programs, I mean come on...



Everyone should expect them to at least appear prepared to play. That's crazy that you wouldn't.


Dude. A new coach. New schemes. ZERO preseason games. This is basically our preseason. Against established teams with very good defenses. Honestly I just don't know what else to say.


I don't know why this has to be explained repeatedly! They had 14 days of practice in Pads to take in a new Coach, new Scheme, new Playbooks, etc..etc..

And yet with all that against them they have played 2 competitive games against two of the better teams in the NFL



Even the head coach doesn't agree with this sentiment. Fans are just a lot more willing to make excuses.



There is a difference between reasons and excuses.



There is no legitimate "reason" for them to come out of the gate as embarrassingly as they did. Case in point, the coach lights into them at half time and they end up playing a consistent 30 minutes.

Both games have shown that we can play a half. Of course the real trick is having enough for a whole game.
The Giants lack top end talent on both sides of the ball  
SGMen : 9/20/2020 8:29 pm : link
I do believe we have some good young players. I do believe we will improve as the season moves along even without Barkley.

However, I'd be lying if I didn't say I am a tad worried about D. Jones after two games due to his penchant for turnovers. Sure, it is a new system and perhaps he is trying to make something out of little or nothing, but turnovers in the NFL are coach killers and of course lead to LOSSES.

I believe SF is up next and they have injuries. We shall see if we are learning and improving this coming week or not.
I wasn't for drafting Barkley, but holy shit,  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/20/2020 8:33 pm : link
I feel awful for him. Second year in a row where he will miss significant time (obviously much more time this year). This franchise has absolutely, positively no luck whatsoever and it's been that way since the Hurricane Sandy game against the Steelers in 2012. What a windfall. I'm pretty much speechless at this point. Not angry, not sad, just numb at this point. And then to actually play better in the 2nd half without Barkley and Shep, and then to just lose in soul-crushing fashion. Good grief.
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Honestly I think people are insane with what they are expecting out of this team with a new staff a new set of schemes and a ton of new faces. Especially on the OL. And with basically NO PRESEASON.



The first half of this game wasn't even professional football. If you are okay with that, your judgement needs adjusting.


Who said I'm OK with it? But if you are expecting different against established programs, I mean come on...



Everyone should expect them to at least appear prepared to play. That's crazy that you wouldn't.


Dude. A new coach. New schemes. ZERO preseason games. This is basically our preseason. Against established teams with very good defenses. Honestly I just don't know what else to say.


I don't know why this has to be explained repeatedly! They had 14 days of practice in Pads to take in a new Coach, new Scheme, new Playbooks, etc..etc..

And yet with all that against them they have played 2 competitive games against two of the better teams in the NFL



Even the head coach doesn't agree with this sentiment. Fans are just a lot more willing to make excuses.



There is a difference between reasons and excuses.



There is no legitimate "reason" for them to come out of the gate as embarrassingly as they did. Case in point, the coach lights into them at half time and they end up playing a consistent 30 minutes.


In my opinion your view is too simplistic, but maybe you're right.
These games take a lot out of me  
Chris684 : 9/20/2020 9:18 pm : link
even with tempered expectations.

The 4th down "should have been" stop late in the 4th quarter where the ball bounced right into Massie's waiting arms for a fluke 1st down has been in line with our luck these last few years.

2 years in a row Barkley's season get destroyed after he was awesome as a rookie.

If there's anything I can say it's that the 49ers game is winnable if their guys who are banged up can't play.
Today was a disaster.  
George from PA : 9/20/2020 9:30 pm : link
We played a team that the Giants could have beaten .....and did not show up in the first half.

Lost their best player for the season.

Their QB played with ALL their weapons for the 1st time...for roughly 19min.
All he showed for it was the same mistakeshe....fumbles and an INT!...which is now pretty consistent in year 2.

When a comeback looked possible, they gave up a QB run of 12 yds, another long run and a 24 yd run....

This team does not know how to win.

Coaches seem sound....but results are the same....

I am sick of the losing
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mittenedman : 9/20/2020 9:41 pm : link
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they ran the ball down our throats. Same as the the last how many years we could not get a stop on defense early to give our offense more time. Had to use all our timeouts while they controlled the ball. Williams is a big person but no threat in the pass rush and in containment. Just slow. F DG for this. He never heard Ernie A say you can never have enough pass rushers? We have D tackles who can't stop the run when it counts. We have no pass rushers the other team has to plan for. We still have no quality linebackers. On our last drive why do we not throw the ball into the end zone once we are inside the 20? Eli did this his last 3 years as well. Dink and dunk but no score at the end.


That's what I was saying as well. We spend all our resources at DT and we get blown off the ball right up the gut like candy asses. Until proven otherwise these guys up front are bums. You gotta do it when it matters.
Run D looked gassed in the 4th Quarter.....  
Simms11 : 9/20/2020 9:43 pm : link
Bears running there killed the Giants. Tomlinson looked like he was on skates! He was not good on the last drive.

I also think our LBer play, with exception of Martinez has been subpar. In the 3-4 you have to have solid LBers. Its been ignored since we've become a 3-4. For as good as Golden was last year, he hasn't done crap this year so far!
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nygiants16 : 9/20/2020 9:47 pm : link
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Bears running there killed the Giants. Tomlinson looked like he was on skates! He was not good on the last drive.

I also think our LBer play, with exception of Martinez has been subpar. In the 3-4 you have to have solid LBers. Its been ignored since we've become a 3-4. For as good as Golden was last year, he hasn't done crap this year so far!


theybdidnt have williams and lawrence in on those first 2 plays where the bears had the 2 big runs...put them back in and they stuffed the run
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FatMan in Charlotte : 9/20/2020 10:33 pm : link
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they ran the ball down our throats. Same as the the last how many years we could not get a stop on defense early to give our offense more time. Had to use all our timeouts while they controlled the ball. Williams is a big person but no threat in the pass rush and in containment. Just slow. F DG for this. He never heard Ernie A say you can never have enough pass rushers? We have D tackles who can't stop the run when it counts. We have no pass rushers the other team has to plan for. We still have no quality linebackers. On our last drive why do we not throw the ball into the end zone once we are inside the 20? Eli did this his last 3 years as well. Dink and dunk but no score at the end.


That's a great rant and all, but seems strange on who gets singled out here. Williams had a very good game today and was actually not on the field for two of the runs in the last drive.

No quality LB's?? The LB play has been a lot better in the first two games. Blake Martinez has been very good. Fackrell made a couple really good plays.
RE: Today was a disaster.  
Mdgiantsfan : 9/20/2020 10:41 pm : link
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We played a team that the Giants could have beaten .....and did not show up in the first half.

Lost their best player for the season.

Their QB played with ALL their weapons for the 1st time...for roughly 19min.
All he showed for it was the same mistakeshe....fumbles and an INT!...which is now pretty consistent in year 2.

When a comeback looked possible, they gave up a QB run of 12 yds, another long run and a 24 yd run....

This team does not know how to win.

Coaches seem sound....but results are the same....

I am sick of the losing


I think it's a misnomer to say our receiving corp are weapons. Even when healthy, SB is the only player that opponents are concerned with. Slayton hopefully will continue to grow and become just that, but the rest of the corp are not legit threats.
The first half sucked but the most  
St. Jimmy : 9/20/2020 10:48 pm : link
disappointing part of the game was Chicago's last drive. The Giants have devoted tons of resources to stopping the run and Chicago runs off 5:41 off the clock breaking off runs at almost 10 yards a carry.
This game told me a few things  
ryanmkeane : 9/20/2020 10:52 pm : link
and I’ll start with the negatives.

1. It seems Jones is really intent on keeping a play alive until he either throws it or fumbles. It’s awesome that he’s a gamer and can stay in the pocket, but Jesus, after 4 seconds, you gotta get outta there. That fumble was just not ideal when it comes to pocket presence, he’s got the ball just hanging down there ready to be knocked away. That shit has to stop, now.

2. The lack of a legitimate pass rush is really getting old. And I’m not saying that it’s actually horrible thus far cause it has been alright, it looks improved. But, for about 3 years now, we have seen time and time again these opposing QBs just extend plays and drives where other teams can get off the field on third down because of a pass rush that we simply don’t seem to have. I just don’t get it. It’s just brutal watching guys like Mitch Trubisky run around back there. This needs to be priority #1 in the offseason, get some fucking edge rushers.

3. We seem to be a team that just can’t make a play. Whether it’s on offense or defense, it just always seems to fall short. And I’m not entirely sure if this is just because we don’t have the talent or because we aren’t lucky or whatever, it just doesn’t seem to happen for us and it’s been that way for a long time now. And until that changes, we are going to keep losing.

Now for some positives....

1. Our defense seems to be a lot tougher and a lot more sound. Tackling is a lot better, coverage is way better, linebacker play is like a thousand times better, and if we start to play more like we did for the entire second half, we might have the beginning of a really nice unit. I don’t have many issues with Graham so far, I think he’s done a pretty good job with what we have.

2. Andrew Thomas looks legit. There’s been a few plays where he’s gotten mixed up, but for the most part, dude looks like he’s gonna be a stalwart there and that’s probably the most important thing to this aside from Jones.

That’s about all I got. Hopefully we can take advantage of the niners injuries and get a win.
I liked shurmer and he got railroaded in my opinion  
MartyNJ1969 : 9/20/2020 11:01 pm : link
I have no sympathy for judge or gettlemen.
RE: I liked shurmer and he got railroaded in my opinion  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/20/2020 11:04 pm : link
In comment 14979590 MartyNJ1969 said:
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I have no sympathy for judge or gettlemen.


What the fuck??

What has Judge done wrong for you?
RE: RE: I liked shurmer and he got railroaded in my opinion  
PetesHereNow : 9/20/2020 11:18 pm : link
In comment 14979594 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14979590 MartyNJ1969 said:


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I have no sympathy for judge or gettlemen.



What the fuck??

What has Judge done wrong for you?


That’s RichHouston, the Eagle dragging troll. Same writing style.
First down  
VinegarPeppers : 9/20/2020 11:18 pm : link
When the opposing center catches a first down pass you know you’re pretty much done.
Shirmer was a seasoned veteran coach that got axed real quick along  
MartyNJ1969 : 9/20/2020 11:25 pm : link
With his staff. I thought if he had another year je could have shown more progress wiith the team in terms of wins then a new coach like judge. We are stuck with judge now even if we go 0-16 because firing judge would mean we are paying two ex coaches a salary
one thing that doesn’t change is the intellectual content of posts  
plato : 9/20/2020 11:50 pm : link
after a Giant loss. It’s to the point where reading them, almost makes up for losing from humorous amazement at the impatience, poor reality testing, and general mid understanding displayed.
Gettleman needs to go sooner than later  
Blue Dream : 9/21/2020 12:43 am : link
Before he makes another Williams like trade to try and save his job and further fuck us for the future
RE: one thing that doesn’t change is the intellectual content of posts  
madeinstars : 9/21/2020 2:10 am : link
In comment 14979638 plato said:
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after a Giant loss. It’s to the point where reading them, almost makes up for losing from humorous amazement at the impatience, poor reality testing, and general mid understanding displayed.


Not that this post is much better.

I'd honestly be more concerned about an organization that can not get it right for 9 seasons straight and has been the actual worst for the last 5 than a couple of slight overreactions on an online football forum.
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